Just some Busting

[cabalism13]

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Thanks for this things @YOSHIE, I simply do not wang to get biased here but I didn't see this coming, just had some transactions with plvbob0 and I really didn't think that he was an alt of someone.
Just for everybody's peace of mind, such cheating will never be tolerated. I WILL NOT TOLERATE ANYTHING THAT IS HARMFUL TO THE FORUM.
It's a good thing this has been brought to the public and from what I see, Debonaire and Plvbob0 is already out of the hot seat. Even though it was really a bad move...


To All of the USERS on PILIPINAS Section:
If I were you, make a post were you will state your alts or any connected accounts to your main. So if something like this will happen again you are safe.

(Also to other Good Merit Earners: Please avoid ang shady things I simply do not want to feel bad for myself)

Edit:

@OP, you're quite good enough as far as I can tell, but I think digging an old issues will not get you in to something. I simply do not defend them but knowing them it's not that they've been doing something wrong. Aside from ban evading - from that we might not also know if there's a reason behind it.

Do you somewhat hold a grudge on them? You were once on my GC on telegram and then you just left is it because of this post? And doesn't to be questioned about why you did this? - just wanted your explanation though.

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[Johnyz]

Alright, we got too much drama from plv and devonaire now I want to hear the side of Sheenshane since that’s a clearly ban evansion? Let’s just support what is right here and let them justify themselves, DT’s will decide.

[plvbob0070]

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Thanks for the effort. I appreciate that. You can see based on what you have given that we're not linked to the same addresses it's because this account is not his alt.

~snip

I know that it's really unacceptable to cheat in the forum especially that I have also earned a small amount of your trust but I'm not guilty of the accusation because I know I'm not violating any rules here in the forum. I'm just trying to do my best here. I'm working hard to give quality posts and I just want to clear my name with this issue.

[logfiles]

Alright, we got too much drama from plv and devonaire now I want to hear the side of Sheenshane since that’s a clearly ban evansion? Let’s just support what is right here and let them justify themselves, DT’s will decide.

When it comes to ban evasion, DTs can't really do anything. It's more of a moderators' thing to choose whether to ban them or not.

[rhomelmabini]

Thanks for this things @YOSHIE, I simply do not wang to get biased here but I didn't see this coming, just had some transactions with plvbob0 and I really didn't think that he was an alt of someone.
Just for everybody's peace of mind, such cheating will never be tolerated. I WILL NOT TOLERATE ANYTHING THAT IS HARMFUL TO THE FORUM.

Thanks for the input YOSHIE and cabalism13 I really appreciate it and especially your dedication in our local board, I really respect it. I'm just glad they explain themselves.

@OP, you're quite good enough as far as I can tell, but I think digging an old issues will not get you in to something. I simply do not defend them but knowing them it's not that they've been doing something wrong. Aside from ban evading - from that we might not also know if there's a reason behind it.

Do you somewhat hold a grudge on them? You were once on my GC on telegram and then you just left is it because of this post? And doesn't to be questioned about why you did this? - just wanted your explanation though.

Yeah, I know but even though that's an old issue the truth will always prevail as I said yesterday this isn't the first time I take into account of busting a ban evader or something similar, those aren't an issue those are truth they need to face and I ask them one more time to prove their innocence in this thread, if not I'll still respect it. If there could be a reason behind it I think I use to do this and it's somehow they broke a rule and I've seen it.


I have no grudge on them, you can ask them if there is. Well, I left because I don't want to mark myself as a person who likes eavesdropping there's even one user there that asked you to ban me, so without further ado, I left on my own accord. Rules are rules and I think they know that. Why I did this? I think I am doing this stuff way back, nothing else.



Okay, let's take a look how sheenshane handle a ban evasion case.

In addition:

Original

What is the exchange rate for a TIE token to BTC and ETH?

What is the exchange rate for a TIE token to BTC and ETH?

How will you distribute TIE tokens?

How will you distribute TIE tokens?

When will tokens be distributed?

When will tokens be distributed?

Digging more... Proven now..

I think that is enough reason for you now that you are plagiarizing and joining bump ANN thread.
You are now in ban evasion and your account deserves to be banned.

Archived

As of now, we can't use bpip because it is under maintenance by @Vod to look out your account details.

Sorry, we are getting pretty close to releasing a new extension and website.  Some old code is no longer working.  Please be patient for a bit longer...

Ohh, I found out you are banned. Don't waste your time recovering on that account even you are claiming hacked but that is banned.

86.[/color] Member IggySe7ven Banned! (Trust: neutral) (19 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)

So, wait and see, and if it doesn't work out, just use a new account if you want to join the forum again.

OP now is in ban evasion.

Archived

[rosezionjohn]

Suspected accounts - Yes -

- correction, I didn't get disqualified from the coldkey competition, My work just didn't made it to the top 10

Thanks for making it clear. I was wondering if there's another evidence linking both accounts aside from telegram since this is the second time that's why I brought it up. If none, my curious mind tells me that OP found out the connection during the competition.

[rhomelmabini]

Suspected accounts - Yes -

- correction, I didn't get disqualified from the coldkey competition, My work just didn't made it to the top 10

Thanks for making it clear. I was wondering if there's another evidence linking both accounts aside from telegram since this is the second time. If none, my curious mind tells me that OP found out the connection during the competition.

Nope it wasn't, it was on the very last post of plvbov0070 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2449551;sa=showPosts;start=500

When I am looking at an account I really start at the very end of their posts and just at one look, you'll see it. They explain themselves and I think that will do it and I guess a neutral tag will be applicable to observe them or simply observe them.

[cabalism13]

@OP, you're quite good enough as far as I can tell, but I think digging an old issues will not get you in to something. I simply do not defend them but knowing them it's not that they've been doing something wrong. Aside from ban evading - from that we might not also know if there's a reason behind it.

Do you somewhat hold a grudge on them? You were once on my GC on telegram and then you just left is it because of this post? And doesn't to be questioned about why you did this? - just wanted your explanation though.

Yeah, I know but even though that's an old issue the truth will always prevail as I said yesterday this isn't the first time I take into account of busting a ban evader or something similar, those aren't an issue those are truth they need to face and I ask them one more time to prove their innocence in this thread, if not I'll still respect it. If there could be a reason behind it I think I use to do this and it's somehow they broke a rule and I've seen it.


I have no grudge on them, you can ask them if there is. Well, I left because I don't want to mark myself as a person who likes eavesdropping there's even one user there that asked you to ban me, so without further ado, I left on my own accord. Rules are rules and I think they know that. Why I did this? I think I am doing this stuff way back, nothing else.

Well, I'm still the admin and creatir of that group, it is an open community. It's not that I will randomly ban anyone without further investigating on what happened. I just needed to know the reasons.

But as you have made already a decision and left, there's nothing I can do about it. As for the issues, well you do have a point but as of now lets just hear their side and let them defend themselves...after all, they have already contributed many things on our local.

[Johnyz]

@OP, you're quite good enough as far as I can tell, but I think digging an old issues will not get you in to something. I simply do not defend them but knowing them it's not that they've been doing something wrong. Aside from ban evading - from that we might not also know if there's a reason behind it.

Do you somewhat hold a grudge on them? You were once on my GC on telegram and then you just left is it because of this post? And doesn't to be questioned about why you did this? - just wanted your explanation though.

Yeah, I know but even though that's an old issue the truth will always prevail as I said yesterday this isn't the first time I take into account of busting a ban evader or something similar, those aren't an issue those are truth they need to face and I ask them one more time to prove their innocence in this thread, if not I'll still respect it. If there could be a reason behind it I think I use to do this and it's somehow they broke a rule and I've seen it.


I have no grudge on them, you can ask them if there is. Well, I left because I don't want to mark myself as a person who likes eavesdropping there's even one user there that asked you to ban me, so without further ado, I left on my own accord. Rules are rules and I think they know that. Why I did this? I think I am doing this stuff way back, nothing else.

Well, I'm still the admin and creatir of that group, it is an open community. It's not that I will randomly ban anyone without further investigating on what happened. I just needed to know the reasons.

But as you have made already a decision and left, there's nothing I can do about it. As for the issues, well you do have a point but as of now lets just hear their side and let them defend themselves...after all, they have already contributed many things on our local.

So as a DT and Merit source of the Local board, what can you say about the case of ban evasion with sheenshane? Do you still need to hear his side? Or you just don’t want to give negative trust?

[Pffrt]

So as a DT and Merit source of the Local board, what can you say about the case of ban evasion with sheenshane? Do you still need to hear his side? Or you just don’t want to give negative trust?

Ban evasion doesn't need negative feedback. Report this to moderator and they will ban him. DT or MS has nothing to do here. DT are for tagging scammer and likely to be scammers.

[rhomelmabini]

But as you have made already a decision and left, there's nothing I can do about it. As for the issues, well you do have a point but as of now lets just hear their side and let them defend themselves...after all, they have already contributed many things on our local.

Thanks for that. Well, they can really defend it and even moderators can balance the situations since they contributed things here in the forum, but rules are rules and we have to abide it, even notable users can't escape that fact. Even if I haven't opened it there will be users that will do, the thing if other users will find it and their opinions never heard that will be the worst-case scenario. This thread will never be locked up, it might be if all are done, I challenged them to step on the limelight and clear if this isn't right.

So as a DT and Merit source of the Local board, what can you say about the case of ban evasion with sheenshane? Do you still need to hear his side? Or you just don’t want to give negative trust?

Mate, don't pull that negative trust thing that is out of the question.

DT are for tagging scammer and likely to be scammers.

Just want to correct this statement, that isn't the sole purpose DT has been made for there is more to it than that.

[monero.org]

I remember cheezcarls last month where he brag about him ranking up with merits and then saying sorry for spamming and then caught providing services to plagiarize contents. awwwh he got morals alright!  He contributed in the forum but it didn't stop him from getting banned.

So are we going to let this slide because they did contribute and 2 alt accounts enrolled in a signature campaign violation is nothing?

[cryptoaddictchie]

So are we going to let this slide because they did contribute and 2 alt accounts enrolled in a signature campaign violation is nothing?

It's funny how alt accounts are being used to continue to insists on putting negative trust to those who have been accused here. Why not post here using your main account and speak for yourself. Some accused members have already state their reason. So there's no reason to put fire with the issue. There are some cases that need to be consider before making some judgement and I can see why some DTs not doing so.


I have some monero coins dont disgrace their name here.

[monero.org]

So are we going to let this slide because they did contribute and 2 alt accounts enrolled in a signature campaign violation is nothing?

It's funny how alt accounts are being used to continue to insists on putting negative trust to those who have been accused here. Why not post here using your main account and speak for yourself. Some accused members have already state their reason. So there's no reason to put fire with the issue. There are some cases that need to be consider before making some judgement and I can see why some DTs not doing so.


I have some monero coins dont disgrace their name here.

You show disgust who post alts right.  Would you not be disgusted if I use it to join signature with my primary account?

[Debonaire217]

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Merited you for posting 3 liner post for the 2nd time. Keep up.

I don't really know why you keep on pushing your thing. I have been thinking about this issue starting yesterday and I couldn't keep on worrying since I don't want my account to be destroyed. I've already explained my side, if that isn't enough for many aside from you, I am willing to expose part of my security which is my IP address used and ask my suspected alt Plvbob0 to post his as well. I hope we shouldn't reach that far.

[monero.org]

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Merited you for posting 3 liner post for the 2nd time. Keep up.

Not to mock you with merits, but I don't really know why you keep on pushing your thing. I have been thinking about this issue starting yesterday and I couldn't keep on worrying since I don't want my account to be destroyed. I've already explained my side, if that isn't enough for many aside from you, I am willing to expose part of my security which is my IP address used and ask my suspected alt Plvbob0 to post his as well. I hope we shouldn't reach that far.

I give it back to you.  You definitely need it more. You plan to be legendary. I have no issues with anyone but I'm for what is right. Do you think you did the right thing?

[rhomelmabini]

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You're off-topic here mate and I'll report it, you may post it in here Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2020 Q1) as well as your started topic on the Meta board as it was a wrong board to post that kind of topic.

I wouldn't bite linking accounts over crypto transactions since it is vague. For example, maybe A just ask to handle the token to B because it's just a few and it will cost him more gas if ever he'll do it on his end so instead of transacting it over to exchanges (I have a hunch that's the case here as I've seen the transaction are only done once) A ask B to do the task. Moreover, that isn't impossible as both of them are from same local I'll never be surprised if they are acquintance because of this forum or they really know each other.

As to the second case, I may take a look at it but to get more evidence you need to dig deeper behind it, the possibility is there but just having that isn't of hard evidence to present.

[cabalism13]

So as a DT and Merit source of the Local board, what can you say about the case of ban evasion with sheenshane? Do you still need to hear his side? Or you just don’t want to give negative trust?

Ban evasion doesn't need negative feedback. Report this to moderator and they will ban him. DT or MS has nothing to do here. DT are for tagging scammer and likely to be scammers.

True.
And yeah before I leave something I need to hear a thing from that user besides he's one of the users in my trust list. Let us give the user some time to explain himself just like what the 2 users did.
If the ban was made for a serious crime back then,... then I must say I will do what I must but as of now I will stick to that fact and just leave a neutral instead.
We simply cannot just look into the one side, besides it is not us who will decide whether the user stays or not.
As I'm always saying, I do not tolerate crimes that harms the forum.

Do you think you did the right thing?

I simply wanted to tell you that you should ask yourself the one I quoted above.
Simply being a dick and just lurking around just to shit on some shits. Bring your profile here then somebody might consider your shits.

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It seems there is someone who is triggered and wanted to fight back with shits. Knock it off for you alts, whatever your posts is, it really doesn't help with the situation. Shitty biased feedbacks are really out of the line, sk I really suggest to stay out of it

[sheenshane]

Okay, let me explain what @cabalism13 said.

TBH, I never arguing here in reputation even in meta because I dont want to involved dramas that moreover other criticized people when we talked connected accounts. Some of them did not believe of what you have said.

TBH, way back then Bitcointalk was introduced to my eldest brother that is jhongzjhong account. We know that joining and giving merits to each other was a forum offense and we never do that even though I have some post that must deserve to be merited. I know what is the rule of the forum that why I always abide on it to avoid problems in the future. And I told him that doesn't cross any signature that I joined because they will think you are my alt and even in previous accusation I never make dependable on my side because I know that we dont have anything wrong and alt account is okay as long as you are not abusing forum(that is a crime). And I think @cabalism was wrong of saying committing crimes. Now, he got a job and having a family he totally leaves on this forum

Now, let's proceed to the second one. BTCeminjas, that account was created by my elder sister(I'm the youngest sibling among them) and that was stated to me before in meta.

From my 2 lovely sisters, because I'm the youngest sibling among them all- they love me and care with me.
From the end of their names have sheen and shane, I've got this combination username of their names just because it is symbolized for me in a return for their love and care to me.

Now, our mistakes are we used the same wallet before because since we are newbies we dont know that using the same Bitcoin address will result like this. And due to the laziness of my eldest sister, I dont know what is the reason for banning as far as I remember she said she used google as a reference of posting. But I know we are not committing crimes of joining the same signature or joining the same bounties.

Yeah, I know those who are reading this will not believe because I saw most cases like this and that is why I did not give my feedback before as long as I'm not abusing the forum. And besides, I'm more active on local. I don't know this OP barking me this old issue that only mods will make an action not by giving feedback as cabal did.

Now, everyone read my opinion and I respect what mods taking action about this. They had a right to investigate my case and do what is right. Even though I'm not so useful in the forum but I contribute and keep active as much as I can even I have work in real life. It might this is my last post or whatever mod decision is at least I'm honest in this forum and there's no CRIME happen. (hacking, running money or even trolling) I'm trying a good member of this forum.

But I really appreciate if there is forgiveness I can continue my journey here and keep helping those who wanted my help.


To OP, I respect what you are the purpose of posting this. Just continue busting alt accounts that abuse on the forum. That is the real toxic here.

Thank you so much I will not respond to this thread anymore.

A good member of this forum,
-sheenshane-

[JeromeTash]

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I understand the need to expose Alt accounts but how is this connected to the OP?
I advise you to post such information in the thread of Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2020 Q1) or just create a new topic like this one and also state what forum rule the connected alts have broken