Just some Busting

[rhomelmabini]

Note: This isn't for merit whoring especially to those that I've reported here since all of them are from our local and I've read it . This isn't an issue that I'm jealous of because I never did mean it that way, I've been busting those who plagiarized, those who have alt accounts and those who evade their ban, this isn't the first time. If you think you will be banned then appeal for it, that will be biased if I'm just busting some foreigners. If this isn't true then explain it here that it will be easy for us to know the truth. Don't merit this post they'll think I'm into that.

Number 1: Multiple accounts enrolled in a campaign + merit abuse

4 Accounts Connected:

plvbob0070
Debonaire217
rricksu
ronwewee

Proof:

Telegram username: @Debonaire217

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3) Telegram @Username: @Debonaire217

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Link to your Telegram profile: @Debonaire217

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Telegram user name: @Debonaire217

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Related Addresses:

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@Debonaire217

Miscellaneous:

You can find more of his alt here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5197994.msg52956253#msg52956253
And he admits it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5197994.msg52957166#msg52957166 Archived


1. Debonaire217
2. oppo070
3. debby070
4. elite070
5. Dobby070

>>> plvbob0070 //// you can see the connections. I'm just glad you made it this far to rank those accounts to Sr. Member




Numbers 2 and 3 are just digging in from the reports of the past on the Known Alts of anyone.

2 Accounts Connected:

Nivir
Darker45

Proof:

Wallet: 3LBidxV4N2BBtL4XSY5TP9su81Goaf3i3A

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My BTC Address: 3LBidxV4N2BBtL4XSY5TP9su81Goaf3i3A

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Related Addresses:

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3LBidxV4N2BBtL4XSY5TP9su81Goaf3i3A

Miscellaneous:

The report of @marlboroza can be found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg18742913#msg18742913 and I think that is the best connection I can think of and that Nivir was banned just this 2019 meaning user Darker45 is evading the ban.
More connection can be found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206112.msg16643000#msg16643000

https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Nivir

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5/24/2019 2:19:03 AM	Changed to Archived status	Autoban user

3 Accounts Connected:

BTCeminjas
jhongzjhong
sheenshane

Proof:

Btctalk name: sheenshane
Rank: Member
Current post count: 192
BTC Address: 3NG41nobuPkG3eXKYfBPE7GoiusBcSS8Sw
Wear appropriate signature: yes
Wear avatar: yes

Merry christmas sir'
Reapply for my application if have any spot let me in for next round of you're campaign.
thanks to you and insurepal team.

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Username: BTCeminjas
Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile
Rank: Member
Current post count: 107
BTC address: 3NG41nobuPkG3eXKYfBPE7GoiusBcSS8Sw
ERC20-compatible ETH address: 0x2f292b87b79dca339dcd40e0cf5bb20144786ad1

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Bitcointalk Username: jhongzjhong   
Rank: Member
Post count: 231
Link to profile:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile
BTC Address: 3NG41nobuPkG3eXKYfBPE7GoiusBcSS8Sw
DEPOTWALLET/Nanowallet address: NC2MGX-2YH4BJ-6U2NZW-MD437V-ON3DGE-AGTEIK-RT4R
Wear appropriate signature: YES

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3NG41nobuPkG3eXKYfBPE7GoiusBcSS8Sw
0xf5260FE7A39d5d4A99C45bF41be0E319e7940B8F

Miscellaneous:

The same case as above it's "ban evasion". He may have edited those if you'll see it but luckily there are quotes that don't lie and you can't hide it. As I've said above this is digging from past reports and seems this one been abandoned by the reporter since he's not online for over 2 years now. You can find the report here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg33333291#msg33333291

https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=BTCeminjas

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[ChuckBuck]

Number 1: Multiple accounts enrolled in a campaign + merit abuse

4 Accounts Connected:

plvbob0070
Debonaire217
rricksu
ronwewee

I feel quite surprised with this case  Both plvbob0070 and Debonaire217 accounts are very active and receive a great deal of merit from the community  This user seems to be pretty good at maintaining both accounts at the same time and still keep the positives. By using two accounts in the Bestchange campaign, it means he is making about $ 140 from it every week LOL. He is violating one of the most important rules in signature campaigns, a deadly greed  Waiting for DT here to tag  You should also notify this topic to Bestchange's signature campaign 

[Little Mouse]

Great job, OP. The title is pointing finger to Bestchange but they have no fault here, it is my opinion. If you agree, can change the title in "Bestchange Campaign abuse" or "Signature campaign abuse by alt", your wish although.

Waiting for DT here to tag   You should also notify this topic to Bestchange's signature campaign  

You are DT of your own and allowed to tag anyone if you think they deserved to be tagged.

[ChuckBuck]

You are DT of your own and allowed to tag anyone if you think they deserved to be tagged.

Yes, of course I can, but the feedback from a member who is not in DT as me will not have much effect  It will become an unreliable response from the perspective of the other members or even the default trust system 
His trust still be:

+0 / =0 / -0

  not much effect here, so waiting for DT members to tag is absolutely good compared to my personal efforts.

[khaled0111]

Good catch OP although I feel sad for some of them as they have been very active and obviously they spent a lot of time and effort to build their accounts.
Maybe admins will take that in consideration and give them a temp ban instead of a perma ban!

[plvbob0070]

Year 2018 when plvbob0070 was created but after that, it stopped being active because it is indeed Debonaire217 who created this account. He gave me this account last 2019 because I was just new to crypto and had no idea. Believe me or not, we're friends and he's my schoolmate and he's also one of those who helped me when I was just starting. When he confessed about the alt accounts, I'm already handling this account.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5197994.msg52957166#msg52957166

After I got this account, I started and tried being active and it was only a year after the creation.
I didn't even try looking at the previous posts of this account because I wasn't expecting this kind of thing. And I'm not guilty of any accusation. My only fault is that I didn't check this account that he gave me before. He created this account and gave it to me and that's it. I have no idea and connection with those other accounts.
Debonaire217 was very active from the start but plvbob0070 wasn't because, during that time, he already gave me the account.
 
Let's also wait for his response.

[ChuckBuck]

Good catch OP although I feel sad for some of them as they have been very active and obviously they spent a lot of time and effort to build their accounts.
Maybe admins will take that in consideration and give them a temp ban instead of a perma ban!

No, not a ban. This is an act of fraud, the ultimate, they must be removed from the campaign they are participating in and the accounts must be tagged at the same time, which means they do not have the opportunity to participate in any Any other campaign, there should be no tolerance here. Are you talking about tolerance for thieves? No, this guy must be punished  
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Believe me or not, we're friends and he's my schoolmate and he's also one of those who helped me when I was just starting.

Anything else? Your family, brother, sister, father, mother, ... There are hundreds of people who explain like you before  I know some of the accounts were tagged, then they explained that they were in a group, they were friends of each other, then they got a second card with group cheating, what would you do at here?

[rhomelmabini]

Good catch OP although I feel sad for some of them as they have been very active and obviously they spent a lot of time and effort to build their accounts.
Maybe admins will take that in consideration and give them a temp ban instead of a perma ban!

That's what I noted on the very top of it because even if I haven't seen it or dig for it for sure there will be anyone that will do. I challenge those who have been reported to go on the limelight and explain themselves this is a matter of reputation not to persecute them. This isn't about hate, jealousy (what I am to be jealous with?) and merit whoring because I can live without it, that isn't the one that processes my metabolism.

Glad to have you explained it @plvbob0070 still there's doubt especially if you look at the connection I've made from the bottom. Other DTs will take a look at the situation. Thanks for your explanation.

[Debonaire217]

I want to brought this topic up from way back before. link

I've already accepted all my mistakes on here from before when I don't have any merits at all because I use multiple accounts but this time, I couldn't accept the blame. I've experienced how hard it is to rank up from this forum and I know how bad it is to use multiple accounts. I've changed from the moment that I've earned a single merit from what I've stated from the link.  

What I can say, I only use this account, and not plvbobo that is one my account before that I've decided to give to my friend. All his merit is because of his own hardwork.

I am aware of the rules from the time that I take this forum seriously, There's no rules that prohibit someone to give account to someone who really wants to be part of the forum.

You can check previous posts of both of our accounts.

Lastly, For me, It is really hard to accept this blame if you really did your best to contribute to the forum.

Someone please track our IP's, please tell them we're not the same person .I don't want to lose my hardwork/account Debonaire217.

[ChuckBuck]

Great!!!!!!!!!!   The explanation is good and convincing, then, you hope that nothing happens? If this is the case, maybe I should buy some bitcointalk account with hero member ranking, then later, I give it to my friend, give it to my family, we write together, working together and participating in a signature campaign to make money   or I can use them all, work hard with 5 accounts and make about $ 200 a week, and anytime I was got found out, I'll ask my friends to use them to testify, sounds great  

Anyone can create a challenging topic like you, which is not enough to say anything

[TheBeardedBaby]

Damn, the first two accounts I actually have merited some posts,there were some damn good posts. Sometimes you see some good users, they turn out to be abusing the forum.
It's a pity to see this happening again, I though people have learned their lesson already.

You got a merit, even that you didn't want one.

[ChuckBuck]

Damn, the first two accounts I actually have merited some posts,there were some damn good posts. Sometimes you see some good users, they turn out to be abusing the forum.
It's a pity to see this happening again, I though people have learned their lesson already.

You got a merit, even that you didn't want one.

So do you want to leave negative trust? Everything here is bad except that these two accounts are quite positive and receive a lot of merit  But I think this is just a small case in this forum, I believe there are still so many people like that in this forum. As long as the user is experienced enough to use the information privately, they will not be detected, in this case, something too old can sometimes harm them 

[TheBeardedBaby]

Damn, the first two accounts I actually have merited some posts,there were some damn good posts. Sometimes you see some good users, they turn out to be abusing the forum.
It's a pity to see this happening again, I though people have learned their lesson already.

You got a merit, even that you didn't want one.

So do you want to leave negative trust? Everything here is bad except that these two accounts are quite positive and receive a lot of merit  But I think this is just a small case in this forum, I believe there are still so many people like that in this forum. As long as the user is experienced enough to use the information privately, they will not be detected, in this case, something too old can sometimes harm them 

I have to read a little bit more, seems the Debonaire217 was kind of pardoned last year, so if there is no crossing of the word he gave that time, see no reason to ruin him yet.
Don't get me wrong, i don't like all these greedy cheaters out there, trying to farm accounts and only thing they post are one-liners, on the other side I hate to destroy accounts. This guy - Debonaire217 seems to have post some good stuff, really like the Art - bitcoin house thing (I didn't see myself in the house.. WTH! /jk) so as I said, we are not the inquisition here, but every case needs its own research.

[cryptoaddictchie]

Great job, OP. The title is pointing finger to Bestchange but they have no fault here, it is my opinion. If you agree, can change the title in "Bestchange Campaign abuse" or "Signature campaign abuse by alt", your wish although.

Bestchange is out of the case, so I think we must not include bestchange on the issue. Yes some tagged are all from Bestchange signature participants but its quite rude to suggest these Bestchange Campaign abuse and Signature campaign abuse.

Glad to have you explained it @plvbob0070 still there's doubt especially if you look at the connection I've made from the bottom. Other DTs will take a look at the situation. Thanks for your explanation.

Sound's credible to me but of course this will depend on DTs decision. I see how @plvbob0070 and @Debonaire217 work on their rank up and many have noticed that they are good poster not just on our local thread but also outside this section. I think many will testify here even DTs.

I'm not a DT member and my words here wouldnt mean anything I just say what I observed on those two accounts Ive mentioned on what Ive noticed and saw during those time they are actively posting and sharing here in forum. DTs should check out and have vivid investigastion before laying such punishment.

we are not the inquisition here, but every case needs its own research.

This how DTs think and writes well. Not just waiting for other DTs to tag those who has been reported in this post and put tagged once there someone started. That's lame.

[rhomelmabini]

Sound's credible to me but of course this will depend on DTs decision. I see how @plvbob0070 and @Debonaire217 work on their rank up and many have noticed that they are good poster not just on our local thread but also outside this section. I think many will testify here even DTs.

They are not still excused because they are still on the hot seat and those statements above from them do not explain the credibility of the accounts that it changes hand, it isn't cool to see that they'll just admit it this time after they've been caught.

[rosezionjohn]

Merited you for the effort. I also doubt that you did this for merits.

Isn't this the second time that debonaire and plvb were suspected to be alt accounts? If I remember correctly, those two accounts were disqualified in a competition related to the bitcointalk 10th anniversary. I'm not sure if that was the coldkey. Please correct me if I'm wrong.


This may be not related to the thread but I just want to say that OP already mentioned doing something like this in our local board.

I guess we can see those who are just here to be paid, who has multi account, etc., and those who not. I have this hunch that may mga multi-account dito at talagang ginagamit lang kapag may isang campaign na nag-aaccept ng mga local posts. I am thinking this for a while na I want to open  thread ng similar kay Timelord sa Reputation board, sa Russian board meron ding ganito. Hmmmmm!

His recent report could also be related to these posts:

If really you're from our local I'd never be surprised if you're the one I've reported to mods that has multi-accounts, sadly you're one of the most merited user as per BPIP but it turns out you only suck the forum. Get a life outside the forum opportunity awaits you more than here. If you don't mind I'll investigate later on if I can find more connections since you like challenges, don't worry I got loyce page on my back.

My hunch tells me that it was you base on what you've said to cabalism3. Shocked It wasn't posted on the Known Alts by Timelord2067 to keep you wondering, the report was done in private but it turns out good because I really laid out the report with strong evidences. Mata na!

Since one of the participants Spider A4 gets autobanned then there's a Full Member rank opened on the campaign. More to go. Grin Guess the reason.

[Debonaire217]

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Suspected accounts - Yes - but the work I've submitted there is original themed, bitcointalk coldkey card.

Up to now, we're still suspected alt account despite of us doing our best on our own to create topics.

Here's my point of view:

Since I know plvbobo in person very well, I very much appreciated if he's creating good posts so I prioritze to give him my smerits. That is, to encourage him to posts better much more.

I don't think the idea of a merit abuse is there, because for me, giving merits just to someone posting one liner post multiple times is more likely to be considered abuse. But the fact that I gave him merits for good posts even if it goes above a hundred times for me is still considerable.

I know you also experienced how hard it is to achieve a higher rank, and I've achieved that from the time that I became sincere here using this account Debonaire217.

- correction, I didn't get disqualified from the coldkey competition, My work just didn't made it to the top 10

[khaled0111]

What I didn't get is why you gave him your alt account in first place? Why didn't you encourage him to create a new account?
At least you could leave each other a neutral feedback explaining the relation between you.
I don't see how giving your account to your friend could be different from selling it!

[YOSHIE]

I do not want to be involved in this problem, the first problem has been resolved and Debonaire217 has changed referring to the initial topic and has acknowledged it, and not repeated the mistake.

I think he realized the advice of the people here.

Since your accounts would probably be ruined I'll advice you still keep to achieving your goals on this account but stop cheating bounty with alts probably if you put in work into your account you might get pardon but first you need to give up the alts especially when you're abusing the forum system with them if not it'll still hunt you in the future.

Step 1. Stop cheating signature campaigns.

Greed can self-destruct.


It seems that for some other evidence it seems better, to prove that @ Debonaire217 is Alt @plvbobo, but I have not found it to make @Debonaire217 a suspect of fraud.

If I judge on what he says.

What I can say, I only use this account, and not plvbobo that is one my account before that I've decided to give to my friend. All his merit is because of his own hardwork.

@rhomelmabini.
There are some things that can be taken, from the words @ Debonaire217, so I want to see the transactions and bpip they use.

I don't want to say that @Debonaire217 and @plvbobo, Alt or not.
Now talking about the btc and bpip addresses that both of them use.

At least btc in @Debonaire217 wallet, can point to @plvbobo wallet and vice versa, but in reality it's different.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5217201.msg53593643#msg53593643

BTC Address:
Bitcointalk Name: plvbob0070
196FE2G5BwzZDT1wSMtiCzasQLDyba96WX

Btc sent by @plvbobo does not refer to: @Debonaire217.

1. Tx: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/0c83ad07f53d45d52b350f1b9a0643bbab5b5fd97eb21924552f816d23ba59e6



Password changed:
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=plvbob0070

Reward payout BTC address: 3DmMms8MpRDgghf3LxKBpCGSZXyynrxHTi

Btc sent by: @Debonaire217 does not lead to @plvbobo recipient.

2. Tx: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/070747ecafac7d92bf2ab6f2ab45149ad39f96317934e236f8de18a8dd24a72c



The password has not changed:
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Debonaire217


So the decision in the matter of both of them is Alt or not, cheating or not, give some of your opinions here in the assessment, of course, that makes sense and can be accounted for.

Note;
If there is other evidence, the stronger they point to the Alt who is having an affair, post here, maybe some DT will make a decision.

[monero.org]

There must be a lot more than these busted accounts. Damn. He took away the opportunities of others who honestly wanted to join the campaign but his alts took it.