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February 28, 2020, 12:18:10 PM
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They just decided to not pay for messages from these countries, it's their right. You can be mad for that, you can use bad words to describe the owners, but that is a wrong thing to do. They decide where will they spend their money, if they think that these countries give bad material why would they pay for that? Would you pay for something that is not good?

I don't know from where they got this calculation, but probably they crosschecked IP addresses and banned accounts, or tagged accounts, I don't know, it's not really even matter. If you think that they are wrong write them some official complaint, send a mail to their team... if you think that you are a good poster ask them to check you and maybe if it's possible to treat you differently!

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February 28, 2020, 06:05:17 PM
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I feel sooner they will completely close their pay per post campaign once people from banned countries start with new via VPN and reaches a minimum number of posts to get paid which is 100 for now. When someone doesn't want you then why you bother to be there we have bitcointalk where no racism is encouraged and everyone is free to post.Let's join here. Grin

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February 29, 2020, 12:12:40 AM
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I feel sooner they will completely close their pay per post campaign once people from banned countries start with new via VPN and reaches a minimum number of posts to get paid which is 100 for now. When someone doesn't want you then why you bother to be there we have bitcointalk where no racism is encouraged and everyone is free to post.Let's join here. Grin

Of course they are not there just to post, can you see every time there are issues about payment and transfer of balance hundreds are quick to post about their experience and thousands have already express dismayed about those deleted posts , as if they only care about the incentives so they don't want their posts deleted.

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February 29, 2020, 05:52:07 AM
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they dont even need to post complain here since this forum is not related in cryptotalk and no one can help them here if their country ban from that forum .
The complain should ask in that forum not here you can ask a question's there or send them an email about the issue of banning a country if you think your country deserve to unban. ( posting it here will not change thier decision) .

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February 29, 2020, 07:48:08 AM
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they dont even need to post complain here since this forum is not related in cryptotalk and no one can help them here if their country ban from that forum .
The complain should ask in that forum not here you can ask a question's there or send them an email about the issue of banning a country if you think your country deserve to unban. ( posting it here will not change thier decision) .

One thing for sure, when CT problems could even end up here, Bitcointalk remains supreme Cheesy

But back then YoBit did advertise their sig campaign here, that's why many still tend to associate this forum with CT.

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February 29, 2020, 11:00:38 AM
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I feel sooner they will completely close their pay per post campaign once people from banned countries start with new via VPN and reaches a minimum number of posts to get paid which is 100 for now. When someone doesn't want you then why you bother to be there we have bitcointalk where no racism is encouraged and everyone is free to post.Let's join here. Grin

Not only VPN, but also Tor and proxy which are free and you could obtain thousand IP easily.

They might implement a KYC soon because that is the only way they can guaranty that one account per forum or they might use a good software that can detect members that are using VPN and all those good members that have using VPN since the start will perish if they implement this kind of feattures.

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February 29, 2020, 01:30:39 PM
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This forum is RACIST staring today they not paying posters coming from
Nigeria, Pakistan, India or Indonesia Egypt and Venezuela, they should have treated every poster individually and not based on their nationality
I'm not from any of those countries but I feel this is a Racist move and should not be taken lightly

I have a member account here  but definitely not going to go back on this forum because of this issue

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Correction the ID could be Indonesia or India I have to clarify that I just got it from one posts coming from one member

Maybe they find to many abusers from that specific countries that's why they ban them up for entering in their platform and you cannot do nothing with it since they are the one who's paying since its their choice to select. But I believe they will close that option since there are so many users who abuse their site.

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February 29, 2020, 02:01:37 PM
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They might implement a KYC soon because that is the only way they can guaranty that one account per forum or they might use a good software that can detect members that are using VPN and all those good members that have using VPN since the start will perish if they implement this kind of feattures.
it will harder for them to have more user's if they want to have KYC before you can participate in paid to post forum. But its possible since they are exchange they can ask it there and required it.



But back then YoBit did advertise their sig campaign here, that's why many still tend to associate this forum with CT.
i guess they make that campaign to leave this forum since they recieve many negative feedback from user's so i dont think they are still active here.

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February 29, 2020, 04:42:36 PM
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they dont even need to post complain here since this forum is not related in cryptotalk and no one can help them here if their country ban from that forum .
The complain should ask in that forum not here you can ask a question's there or send them an email about the issue of banning a country if you think your country deserve to unban. ( posting it here will not change thier decision) .

Check again, I wrote to write it and send it to their team. Posting the complaint on their forum is also a good idea. Of course that this forum has nothing with cryptotalk and yobit, I don't know how you saw that in my words.
Anyway it will be hard to change their opinion, op should try do talk with their team (as we all know yobit team is slow and they are hard to catch sometimes) and to see what will they say about all this. All I can say is that decision once made is hard to be change.

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February 29, 2020, 10:02:40 PM
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they dont even need to post complain here since this forum is not related in cryptotalk and no one can help them here if their country ban from that forum .
The complain should ask in that forum not here you can ask a question's there or send them an email about the issue of banning a country if you think your country deserve to unban. ( posting it here will not change thier decision) .

Check again, I wrote to write it and send it to their team. Posting the complaint on their forum is also a good idea. Of course that this forum has nothing with cryptotalk and yobit, I don't know how you saw that in my words.
Anyway it will be hard to change their opinion, op should try do talk with their team (as we all know yobit team is slow and they are hard to catch sometimes) and to see what will they say about all this. All I can say is that decision once made is hard to be change.
Its their forum and rules made or implied should really be followed into its users but it doesnt mean that it cant be announced or talked on other places like this one.
We do have different perceptions into things and as majority been talking on here its clear that this one do shows on how lazy they are on handling out spam and
just ban hammer all of those countries to get rid of it which isnt really that right at all if were to say but well same as been said, its their forum and their own decisions
or rules would be followed.Racist or not its none of our business. Grin

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February 29, 2020, 10:33:06 PM
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India or Indonesia?

It's not racist, it's just lazy. Instead of moderating the forum they took the easy route and decided to ban certain countries. Spammers will use VPNs and will continue to spam.
It's lazy but also racist.

Like really, last I checked they were paying 1000 sats, or around 8.5 USD cents at the moment. Max comments per day were 100... In the US 8.8 USD or (100 paid comments) are close to the minimum wage. Even if someone completes so many comments it's only natural that they get the content from not so developed nations. I do agree with OP that they're racist to call those people spammers. If they're treading behavior individually then it wouldn't be racist but they rather ban an entire country. In the process they also harm people that were investing time in ranking up their accounts so they can get paid...

Even 2$ can be survival cash for a day for these people. Instead of giving them an opportunity to see if at least SOME are good, they just ban the entire country's IP range? Cruel. Of course more messages were going to come from these nations. There it makes more sense do do such activity... Probably though they also don't want to deal with so many people. There's already enough supply for their needs from other parts of the world.

To me discrimination would be the right word. So you get a few people spamming and the "solution" is ban entire countries? What kind of people do that? Perhaps they really are racists, i don't know... But I'm really glad i stayed away from both their forum and campaign. People doing this kind of wanton ban only deserve boycott.

One of the comments appears to have hit the nail: this has the looks of an exit scam. Why bother paying people when they can simply call them spammers and ban them instead? This is THE reason i stayed away from them: Unlike other campaigns, they coordinate things offsite, and pay using their platform rather than directly sending funds to your wallet. This seemed fishy since the beginning, why they could retain people's money on a whim.

I say stay away from Yobit and Cryptotalk, shame on them, and shame on those carrying their signature. Its really disgusting.

And yes, here in Venezuela people are paid about 5$ a month for a full time job, some of us are surviving by working online. I don't condone spammers, but people should be evaluated individually on a case by case basis.

That you could use a vpn or proxy to fool them is no excuse for discrimination. If anything this only shows their ineptitude managing a campaign, or administering a forum. I cannot imagine trusting my money to that exchange of theirs. They should just quit and close doors for all i care.

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March 01, 2020, 03:23:16 AM
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They have added two more countries Philippines and Bangladesh, it looks like the list will grow because in a real sense spammers do not have a copy and every country has a share of spammers, they should have made it to all Russian forums I don't have anything against my Russian brothers they are doing great here, it's just Cryptotalk don't want other local boards.

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March 01, 2020, 11:27:40 AM
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They have added two more countries Philippines and Bangladesh, it looks like the list will grow because in a real sense spammers do not have a copy and every country has a share of spammers, they should have made it to all Russian forums I don't have anything against my Russian brothers they are doing great here, it's just Cryptotalk don't want other local boards.
So racism becomes perfect for cryptotalk?

But why they keep adding the countries, they could entirely ban everyone from using their forum then they can have a clean place, right? Grin

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i guess they make that campaign to leave this forum since they recieve many negative feedback from user's so i dont think they are still active here.

Most, thankfully. It's easy to see why because the members have harbored some grudge against the CT posters.

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March 02, 2020, 06:01:17 AM
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They included my country the Philippines when some of the best posters here are from that area, is it really 95% the figure is very high and unacceptable, they should consider these 5% good posters and they just ban individually, now people hate Cryptotalk and not this spammers.

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Like really, last I checked they were paying 1000 sats, or around 8.5 USD cents at the moment. Max comments per day were 100... In the US 8.8 USD or (100 paid comments) are close to the minimum wage. Even if someone completes so many comments it's only natural that they get the content from not so developed nations.

You need 100 posts to start getting paid, you will be paid for a maximum of 30 posts a day, that is 2.5$ a day.
Of course, I highly doubt that anyone has just one account most are farming them and posting with maybe 5 to 10 a day.


How will they make sure that the posts from these regions are not being paid ? If they only check the IP then they can be deceived by the VPNs. For sure, the spammers are wise enough to use the VPN and keep doing what they are doing  or they will start KYC on their forums. This method (KYC) can be more appropriate if they want to stop some specific countries people to get paid.
KYC would even make matters worse for them.

They don't need to implement KYC on the forum, all they have to do is ask for KYC when withdrawing funds from yobit if you have % let's say of your funds coming from the crypto talk campaign. That would curb instantly the number of bot accounts there.

They have added two more countries Philippines and Bangladesh,

People should understand that the guys from yobit are not stupid.
They have not banned countries just because of the spam, they have made calculations before that, looking at their clients for their shitty ICOs.
When they realized that 99% of the people from those countries are there just to posts and don't invest a cents in their scam schemes, of course, they have pulled the plug.

Crypto talk is their tool for making money also, they won't be paying endlessly for something that doenst make them money in return.






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March 02, 2020, 04:59:21 PM
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racist? no, its not about skin color or hair color.

Yes traffic from this countries is trash from 99%. No way. They likely pay longer time to valued traffic. Right move.
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March 02, 2020, 06:55:52 PM
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People should understand that the guys from yobit are not stupid.
They have not banned countries just because of the spam, they have made calculations before that, looking at their clients for their shitty ICOs.
When they realized that 99% of the people from those countries are there just to posts and don't invest a cents in their scam schemes, of course, they have pulled the plug.

Crypto talk is their tool for making money also, they won't be paying endlessly for something that doenst make them money in return.

Well said.!

Spending on something do really have corresponding motive and seeing things that doesnt benefit out would really be cut-off.
I do see for it to be normal for any companies to done such action but they should at least not too obvious.Banning multiple countries?
Not all posters are spammers but to say that their forum is just good due to few sats given as a payout.Imagine if this one would be removed out
and this would be a ghost town.

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March 03, 2020, 11:51:38 PM
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People should understand that the guys from yobit are not stupid.
They have not banned countries just because of the spam, they have made calculations before that, looking at their clients for their shitty ICOs.
When they realized that 99% of the people from those countries are there just to posts and don't invest a cents in their scam schemes, of course, they have pulled the plug.

Crypto talk is their tool for making money also, they won't be paying endlessly for something that doenst make them money in return.

Yeah, it completely changed the way I was thinking about Yobit's decision. Definitely a great explanation by you that because the demand of their forum is about those people investing in their scam ICOs but these guys were just posting and withdrawing their coins, Yobit decided to cut off their country's names from the list of paid countries to stop themselves from spending more on those who are not profiting them. Well, let's just think for a moment that if signatures are removed from this forum itself, what will the scenario look like?

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March 04, 2020, 01:23:26 AM
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This forum is RACIST staring today they not paying posters coming from
Nigeria, Pakistan, India or Indonesia Egypt and Venezuela, they should have treated every poster individually and not based on their nationality
I'm not from any of those countries but I feel this is a Racist move and should not be taken lightly

I have a member account here  but definitely not going to go back on this forum because of this issue

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Correction the ID could be Indonesia or India I have to clarify that I just got it from one posts coming from one member

I didn't bother to check it also as the forum members keep on growing, this will surely happen in the future either they will stop the payment or they will lower the number of members that they are going to pay. Upon checking, the forum is running for how many months already and this is the only time that they do this because their users have skyrocketed and it will be a burden for them to pay them all.

Paying like 5-10 btc a day will surely make them bankrupt if they will not stop or reduce the users, I cannot blame you also if you will consider them as a racist but I am 100% sure that they are not racist instead they are almost out of balance to pay for their users.

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