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December 25, 2020, 04:46:39 AM
Last edit: December 26, 2020, 01:57:54 AM by frodocooper
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I don’t like being pushed into one style of gear ⚙️ is it  an asic or non asic.

The choices are pretty stark.

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December 25, 2020, 04:57:37 AM
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sadly it is going heavily to the side of industrial mining and not just small time industrial but huge big time industrial shit.

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December 25, 2020, 07:27:07 PM
Last edit: December 26, 2020, 01:58:32 AM by frodocooper
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Yeah we could swing an ant box with 15ph and we would be done with our power.

Across the street in the second smaller building we could do 200 gpus.

At that point we would be done.

Sad that 15ph for btc and 18gh for eth is going to be too small.

In a year or 2 we simply may not have any gear to buy for our 400-500 kwatts

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I am not sure I want to build out a 5 megawatt solar build (if investors help with cash).

I can still put in 5 to 6 hours of hard work per day in the mine but after that I get tired.

Covid did not help me much with that. Wife is still doing lung scans almost 12 months since she went to the hospital with it.  She is better, but not there yet.

I spent a lot of time away from mining and working to improve her health.

I may call it quits for growth in 2021 or 2022.

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December 25, 2020, 09:17:34 PM
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it so stupid that they are pushing to August for buyers like us, yet there are companies getting deals for thousands of miners and Bitmain has no issue filling those orders.... or is that why the normal buyer has to wait so long?

Everyone prefers bulk sales, no?

Riot Blockchain alone has 8000 S19pro in orders which bitmain has to deliver by April of 2021, they agreed on 2000 miner monthly, and the whole world seems to be facing chips shorage, so even if Bimain worked twice as hard, I don't think they will be able to manufacture any more gears that what they already need to send out, so after all, maybe paying for a gear that is planned to be delivered 8 months laters isn't going to be a terrible idea when it's already August 2021 and we are looking back into the past, with that being said, I will NEVER order a gear with that amount of time I have to wait.

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December 26, 2020, 03:23:41 AM
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anyone notice that bitmain is only taking USD wires for their new miners?
That sucks, paying with BTC was nice.
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December 27, 2020, 02:27:52 AM
Last edit: December 28, 2020, 12:04:47 AM by frodocooper
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What has changed? strange enough, I wanted to try if I could pay with BTC so I created a dummy order, and to my surprise, I get an error message that says:

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Sorry, your account has error. You can't make a purchase. If you have any questions, please email us at xxxx@bitmain.com

Seems like they blocked my account or something, since it's unlikely that I will ever buy from them again, it doesn't really matter.

Sorry I couldn't confirm the payment methods because that error shows up before the payment page.

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December 27, 2020, 05:45:15 AM
Last edit: December 28, 2020, 12:05:25 AM by frodocooper
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I went ahead and signed in, put an s19 in my cart.  Went to proceed to check out and it said order placed, continue to payment.  Then the only option available was instructions to wire USD.  No btc payment option.  What sense does that make?  Can't pay with btc to buy product from btc mining company? I thought that was a highlight of btc.  Being able to transfer money around the world in a few minutes.

Yeah well.

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December 27, 2020, 06:18:33 PM
Last edit: December 28, 2020, 12:06:12 AM by frodocooper
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No btc payment option.  What sense does that make?  Can't pay with btc to buy product from btc mining company? I thought that was a highlight of btc...

At least they didn't try to make folks use BCH again...

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January 03, 2021, 02:56:00 AM
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Shipping cost for one miner was a bit mental, but yes USD transfer only

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January 03, 2021, 07:28:24 PM
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$220 USD to ship to the states was most recent. I think Bitmains UPS rate is broken again, posting about +$1.7k charge  .. .. .

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January 06, 2021, 02:20:37 AM
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$220 USD to ship to the states was most recent. I think Bitmains UPS rate is broken again, posting about +$1.7k charge  .. .. .

Yes UPS was mental, price was ok if 2 or more ordered but something wrong with it if only ordering one.

Wonder why they stopped accepting BTC

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January 07, 2021, 04:52:24 AM
Last edit: January 11, 2021, 12:07:13 AM by frodocooper
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Here is an update, since my post on Dec 18 prices have increased quite a bit

S19 pro = $3769
S19     = $2767
T19     = $2118



And the best part is, they are SOLD OUT, it mentions that the shipping date is 1-31 August, I am sure it will be late August, maybe 1-3 days before the month ends, so these buyers will be getting their gears in September at best case scenario, if this isn't a bad deal, I don't know what is, but let's wait for 8 months and see how does this buy turn out to be.

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January 09, 2021, 03:00:42 AM
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https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/chip-foundries%3A-the-top-of-the-crypto-mining-food-chain-2020-12-07
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-chip-shortage-packaging-issues
and https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20210105PD205.html

Seem like convincing explanations for the longer than usual delays in shipping. Even larger buyers are going to be waiting up to 12 months for their orders.

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January 09, 2021, 04:16:29 AM
Last edit: January 11, 2021, 12:08:28 AM by frodocooper
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Yes UPS was mental, price was ok if 2 or more ordered but something wrong with it if only ordering one.

Wonder why they stopped accepting BTC

Well they do some mining. So they want cash to pay bills while they hold the btc from mining.

Pretty safe hedge.

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I am going to read the articles thanks.

First 2 were good. Third one I need to subscribe.

I wonder if we really cant get much gear for the whole year.

I actually like it if true.

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January 09, 2021, 04:39:27 AM
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Well they do some mining. So they want cash to pay bills while they hold the btc from mining.

Pretty safe hedge.

And as price increases the more important is it going to be that miners don't sell too much or they will depress the price. I bet neither would TSMC be keen on accepting bitcoins in lieu of fiat for their chips.

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I am going to read the articles thanks.

First 2 were good. Third one I need to subscribe.

I wonder if we really cant get much gear for the whole year.

I actually like it if true.

Most of their articles are paid (and not cheap) but someone often archives them anyway.

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January 12, 2021, 02:08:14 PM
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January batch of S19-Pro is shipping

Might be some difficulty hikes coming.

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January 12, 2021, 02:10:17 PM
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Yep we got our one s19pro yesterday.

it is physically a much larger unit than the s17.

taller wider deeper.

new gui.

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Yes have had one since July, not sure as to its physical dimensions as its hosted remotely, but the GUI cool.

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Anyone have any guesstimates about when the s19 (non pro) January batch will ship?
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January 16, 2021, 08:34:48 PM
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Anyone have any guesstimates about when the s19 (non pro) January batch will ship?

Today? Tomorrow? Next 5 days?

The Jan s19pros shipped days ago no reason s19 won't ship in the next week.

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