Post a gambling site by: Newbie.

[YOSHIE]

sorry, i don't know if a topic like this has been created here.

I honestly know several gambling sites, which can be trusted to bet on this forum.

A little strange to me, for beginners who make the topic of gambling sites that end (scam), the most severe again at the first time gambling sites are made, beginners disappear never reply to what is asked by members here about the work of the gambling site.

Many people now fall into the valley of death for lost money, because gambling sites are not responsible.

what I want to ask is:

1. Mod can you, to limit any beginners and prohibit or delete posts on behalf of gambling sites, posted by beginners, it's up to gambling sites, whatever that is.
2. Give one posting rule on behalf of gambling sites must rank Jr. and above.
Also does not guarantee, for high-ranking members who bring gambling sites lead to fraud, but at least there is a reply from the answer, leads to something ....rather than beginners one post is instantly lost.

I think a few more ideas are needed from members here, in handling scam gambling sites.
Best solution.

[imstillthebest]

its easy to create a new account and promote a scam site not just a gambling site  . that is why  ,  but  users here are not newbie and they inspect the site first or do some research before they entrust any money with it  .  

also now all newbie are posting scam links or scam gambling sites but i see other users asking some help on the popular and legit gambling sites , we should not restrict them or delete those post because those are valid  except only to those that are guilty and verified to be a scam gambling site  .

[panganib999]

its easy to create a new account and promote a scam site not just a gambling site  . that is why  ,  but  users here are not newbie and they inspect the site first or do some research before they entrust any money with it  .  

Yeah, it takes nothing but a little time to create and make an account to promote a shitty and scam website. But on the other end people ending to be attracted with a shitty gambling platform is the one to blame for themselves because it's their job to know if the platform is legit or not with a prototyping or testing the service.

also now all newbie are posting scam links or scam gambling sites but i see other users asking some help on the popular and legit gambling sites , we should not restrict them or delete those post because those are valid  except only to those that are guilty and verified to be a scam gambling site  .

I agree that there are some newbie who intentionally posts a scammy website but there are several newbies that is making a good effort in creating and posting interesting topics.

[watergold]

That is why many newbie accounts are used to do scamer by creating a new gambling site thread so that more and more people see or try it even though it is a trap so that many are caught on the site.
I still don't believe that if a newbie account makes a thread about gambling, we will at least believe with Cooper Members and on average it's fine.

[DoublerHunter]

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2. Give one posting rule on behalf of gambling sites must rank Jr. and above.

^ That is the reason for having a copper membership that can able to show images. If there is a new post of a link from a gambling site company and purchasing copper membership there is a high chance of legitimacy. Once it is a newbie and looks suspicious thread that seems not to be trusted. Mods/admin had no ability to determine a new dropped link is a scam, it should run for weeks or months before we can conclude that is a scam if there is a victim. If you noticed this above from every thread, "Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here". Do your own research is a must.

[abel1337]

There's a purpose for that copper membership and the limited ability of newbie accounts to make a post here in this forum. I personally don't try depositing in a new gambling site unless there's a giveaway to try a gambling site. Some scammers tend to make good ideas/games that they implement in their gambling platform but in the end, it will end to a scam gambling site. This kind of idea can hit up getting a lot of potential gamblers but I don't know why did someone with a great idea will end up a scammer. These kind of scammer are too wise to make us really believe and make ourselves a fool because of such good ideas.

Advertising here on the forum doesn't make a gambling site a 100% legit, Some of them do have some issues but in the end, it eliminates a high percentage of possibility that it will turn into a scam knowing that the owner allocated funds in order for them to get know by gamblers.

I'm just glad that mods and staff here are doing their best to eliminate the possible scam scheme of members here especially those who are just a dummy accounts that are ready to get banned.

[YOSHIE]

^ That is the reason for having a copper membership that can able to show images.

Yes, I agree "copper members" can at least be held accountable regarding their gambling situation".

I have dozens of gambling site reports that point to fraud, Maybe in the future I should think of something like that, if a beginner displays a gambling site that ends up scam, if it can't be deleted or something that can be displayed that the gambling site is a scam.

Yes, maybe the report mod button, the best solution.

[Lanatsa]

Limiting or implying those rules wont be possible.Why? This is supposedly a decentralized  forum and doing such behavior would
simply remove it out thats why even admins doesnt limit that much or prohibit newbies to post up.Its up on the public on how
they do deal with it.The thing here is that the community would able to give out feedbacks which newbie readers should at least have
the time to read and research.

[Tipstar]

That would not help much as there are rarely newbies posting an announcement for a gambling site. A copper membership is cheap and it's intended to be used as a way for businesses to announce their service.
Though I'm in favor of filtering out scams and frauds, enforcing more restrictions would bring more problems.
I'd rather suggest mods to create an informative thread about gambling and provability of fairness and pin it into the gambling board for beginners.

[Chrystora123]

I still don't believe that if a newbie account makes a thread about gambling, we will at least believe with Cooper Members and on average it's fine.

90% of gambling sites created by Newbie (threads) end up with Scams..  I personally prefer to do research first because not all of them are Scams, and I think doing research first is the best step.

[dunfida]

I still don't believe that if a newbie account makes a thread about gambling, we will at least believe with Cooper Members and on average it's fine.

90% of gambling sites created by Newbie (threads) end up with Scams..  I personally prefer to do research first because not all of them are Scams, and I think doing research first is the best step.

It do always end up on having that impression.If a thing that has been posted by a newbie do really have that treatment on telling it directly as a scam without trying it first.

Not all the times that they are scam which there are still some legit ones and also you can easily spot it out which one is well-made or serious one by just looking into its design first.
First impression do last as we know.

[goinmerry]

We don't even know where those sites came from then a newbie will come out of nowhere either, they found the site as interested so they will post a thread here or they were asking the community if the site was legit but either way, we know it's a promotion to create an awareness. But at least even at small percentage, I know there are still honest questions of those.

But the problem is they dissapeared right away after creating threads that now increase the chances that they are just shilling it here.

And not just the site but some of them will post a gambling related issues or questions. I think there are some threads before about asking a general or basic question then they will not come back again to check answers.

[leowonderful]

I don't recall if I'm remembering this correctly, but one of the threads that used to be pinned under the Marketplace subforum or perhaps another one below that essentially talked about how it's not really the moderators' job to remove scams no matter how obvious they may be, and it's more of your job as a member of the forum or even just a person browsing here to determine whether or not a site's a scam. I still mostly agree with this, because even though a lot of threads and posts by newbies may involve scams, there's also plenty more genuinely new people interested in the many aspects of crypto on this forum that are being blocked by one or any of the rules suggested in the OP.

The trust system also exists for people to earmark obvious scams on this forum.

[shoreno]

I still don't believe that if a newbie account makes a thread about gambling, we will at least believe with Cooper Members and on average it's fine.

90% of gambling sites created by Newbie (threads) end up with Scams..  I personally prefer to do research first because not all of them are Scams, and I think doing research first is the best step.

It do always end up on having that impression.If a thing that has been posted by a newbie do really have that treatment on telling it directly as a scam without trying it first.

Not all the times that they are scam which there are still some legit ones and also you can easily spot it out which one is well-made or serious one by just looking into its design first.
First impression do last as we know.

scam sites also comes in gooder designs that are hard to spot but we can test them out by depositing tiny amounts , play the game and try to withdraw  . if all works smooth then it should be legit   . you know if its a scam if there are many accusuations for that site  .  a legit gambling site are also being advertise here regularly via ads or via signature campaign  and also if its been managed by trusted campaign managers   . if a gambling site want to be trusted by promoting via thread , then they should get a proper forum account with good trust and a high level account so that people wont doubt  .

[logfiles]

Too many restrictions to newbies is also a dangerous thing to the community in the long run. Much as we have so many scammers who come in using newbie accounts, we also have new genuine gambling sites that are first posted by newbies accounts. Why should we make life harder for them in the forum?

Members should also learn to be vigilant instead of imposing restrictions in the forum all the time that will prevent genuine people from joining the forum.

[adzino]

sorry, i don't know if a topic like this has been created here.

I honestly know several gambling sites, which can be trusted to bet on this forum.

A little strange to me, for beginners who make the topic of gambling sites that end (scam), the most severe again at the first time gambling sites are made, beginners disappear never reply to what is asked by members here about the work of the gambling site.

Many people now fall into the valley of death for lost money, because gambling sites are not responsible.

what I want to ask is:

1. Mod can you, to limit any beginners and prohibit or delete posts on behalf of gambling sites, posted by beginners, it's up to gambling sites, whatever that is.
2. Give one posting rule on behalf of gambling sites must rank Jr. and above.
Also does not guarantee, for high-ranking members who bring gambling sites lead to fraud, but at least there is a reply from the answer, leads to something ....rather than beginners one post is instantly lost.

I think a few more ideas are needed from members here, in handling scam gambling sites.
Best solution.

The moderators on this forum does not moderate scams. If a user reads about a casino (which is also a post made by a newbie user) and tries to play on the casino without trying to learn further about the casino through some other source, then yeah that user does deserve to get scammed. At least he will be learning a valuable lesson and next time he is going to be really careful trusting a random user from the internet.

[harizen]

Good thing those sites that come out of the blue are receiving lots of replies and questions here right away. A big help and reference to all users that will just dive out to something without knowing the risks.

But I just wonder, are there really users who still fall on those sites nowadays that were shared here in the Gambling section? I mean it's an old classic fashioned way of attracting users and even some newbies know already that they need to do research before depositing their money, even if the site is legit or scam. Being a newbie shouldn't be a reason. I don't know what kind of standards they are looking for and just easily use those sites.

Are we going to blame the site alone here?

[Lakai01]

Too many restrictions to newbies is also a dangerous thing to the community in the long run. Much as we have so many scammers who come in using newbie accounts, we also have new genuine gambling sites that are first posted by newbies accounts.

I second this. Restricting newbie accounts further lead to the fact that legit sites and casinos dont have the chance to offer their services here or have to pay someone to post and host their thread - or for the copper membership. Newbie accounts are already verity limited, I definitly wouldnt restrict them even more.

Additionally, the rank of the BTC account means nothing and doesnt prevent you from being scamed in any way. Just take a look at the scam accusations subforum here. The vast majority of accusations are against accounts with high ranks. If someone has the sole intention to scam you, the fact that he has to invest a couple of weeks to reach member status here at the forum wont stop him.

[YOSHIE]

But I just wonder, are there really users who still fall on those sites nowadays that were shared here in the Gambling section?

There are a number of cases that have led to gambling sites leading to death.
As an example;

Pengguna: ToxicAG (Archived)

Topic: Topic: Opening a new gambling website 2020'

So, what if most people fall into this deadly gambling site, obviously people think "my money".
Many other sites like this, limiting posts to beginners, getting better, preventing better than treating, that's what @TMAN said.

[Ailmand]

Too many restrictions to newbies is also a dangerous thing to the community in the long run. Much as we have so many scammers who come in using newbie accounts, we also have new genuine gambling sites that are first posted by newbies accounts.

I second this. Restricting newbie accounts further lead to the fact that legit sites and casinos dont have the chance to offer their services here or have to pay someone to post and host their thread - or for the copper membership. Newbie accounts are already verify limited, I definitely wouldn't restrict them even more.

Additionally, the rank of the BTC account means nothing and doesn't prevent you from being scammed in any way. Just take a look at the scam accusations subforum here. The vast majority of accusations are against accounts with high ranks. If someone has the sole intention to scam you, the fact that he has to invest a couple of weeks to reach member status here at the forum won't stop him.

I totally agree, the issue here is not on the one who promotes the site itself, it is those who are reading the post and not doing due diligence on reviewing the legitimacy of the site.

How many high-rank members here are getting victimized by scam gambling sites? How newbies are the victim? Even if you are new in crypto or not people get scammed because of carelessness and being misinformed, or sometimes being greedy thinking of earning money in easy and fast way.