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Question: Scrap the trolling rule?
Yes, scrap the rule, trolling is free speech. - 10 (33.3%)
No, rule works (please provide examples in the thread). - 10 (33.3%)
Stupid thread, OP is stupid and his kids are ugly. - 10 (33.3%)
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February 28, 2020, 08:18:34 AM
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Perhaps he is only interested in those that produce bitcoin code? and objects to merit given to other members. You need not create an account to read and accrue knowledge.

For a person only interested in "Truth", you do like to speculate a lot  Roll Eyes

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Until you demonstrate his points are undeniably incorrect you can't very well evoke the boards definition of trolling.

Since you haven't demonstrated that my premise is invalid I don't have to 'demonstrate his points' are incorrect... I have exposed their intentions according to my premise, I don't have to break down each point as it is subjective...

That's very funny. Thanks very much.

Actually, I don't want to upset you,  but the validity of your premise is fully dependant on clearly demonstrating his points are incorrect and that his motives are as you speculate. You're a very useful member. I would advise you start your own self congratulatory thread as soon as possible.

To navigate to the truth one must push right through the lies, diversions, unintentional misunderstandings, the blathering of fools and anything else that buckles and reveals itself as conjecture or improbable speculation.

Demonstrate his points are false
Demonstrate a very high probability he was aware his statements were false

You have a strong case for trolling.

You can not then try red tagging him to shut him up.

Debunk clearly people's points and arguments, if you fail then squeal false claims of trolling , mental illness or run to red tags like the rest of the moronic drooling fools in meta.
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February 28, 2020, 08:21:41 AM
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The rule would work if it was actually being enforced. If you scrap it, then the chaos will be even worse than it is today.

3. No trolling.
So I reported it as "100% trolling". It was marked as bad. Granted I could have added more info as to why I think it's trolling (attack on the OP, attack on a deceased forum member, false statements - 100% inflammatory content).

Is it trolling? If not - why? If yes - do posts like that have a chance of being removed (with a better report comment perhaps) or should we not bother?
This is why I do not report such posts. This rule is barely enforced at all, and some super-liberal super-progressive moderator will mark it bad within 3 seconds.

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February 28, 2020, 08:29:25 AM
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subtle, because if the perpetrator does not go about it subtly, then the target will not be amply provoked

If that's the case then we should definitely scrap the rule - sounds unenforceable.

Imho even the far-from-subtle "trolling" is not much enforced, if by that we mean the posts deleted or more.
Imho at least the far-from-subtle "trolling" posts could be handled better. But I know it's not easy, since, yep, freedom of speech. I guess that all depends from report to report and from mod to mod.
And there's always the ultimate tool - ignore user - although it's a dangerous tool, since it could allow the forum become a cesspool without us noticing it.

This being said, my vote is to keep the rule, whether it's well enforced or not.
(Maybe we can discuss towards improving the way this is handled better.)

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February 28, 2020, 09:58:17 AM
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The rule would work if it was actually being enforced. If you scrap it, then the chaos will be even worse than it is today.

3. No trolling.
So I reported it as "100% trolling". It was marked as bad. Granted I could have added more info as to why I think it's trolling (attack on the OP, attack on a deceased forum member, false statements - 100% inflammatory content).

Is it trolling? If not - why? If yes - do posts like that have a chance of being removed (with a better report comment perhaps) or should we not bother?
This is why I do not report such posts. This rule is barely enforced at all, and some super-liberal super-progressive moderator will mark it bad within 3 seconds.

But those super liberal super progressive ideologies are why you are not banned for previous scamming, extortion, shady escrow and trust abuse. Not that even should those ideologies change should your dangerous behaviors be conflated with people telling the truth lol

This is clearly not defined as trolling so pointless to keep pretending not to notice legitimate and truthful statements that you all wish remain hidden can't be shoehorned into the trolling compartment. I know that is inconvenient.

Not trolling, stop crying scammer about people daring to present inconvenient truths.
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February 28, 2020, 11:08:43 AM
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And if they express their opinion with there Main Accounts a lot of Users will see there real Face and acting.

You idealize "a lot of Users". In a situation when merit and trust are controlled by gangs, a lot of Users are afraid to express their opinion.

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February 28, 2020, 12:00:19 PM
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And why they afraid, because sometimes they take it to personal.
I just would say that if there is something they would like to write and they need an alt Account for it it would be better to write nothing.
Would be safe the time and effort to create a new Account and mostly with that Account just trolling happens.
Anyway everybody can do what he thinks, but behaving is something others.

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