So, today, Is OpenRigs.com a scam or not? Finally the truth

[blackvoice]

So many customers have reported receiving their units that the answer is obviously no. If you haven't received your order it is most likely that you selected surface mail during checkout (an extremely slow shipping method).

Examples of OpenRigs units in the wild:

http://www.republicofsoftware.com/rosrig01/
https://forum.feathercoin.com/index.php?/topic/6014-openrigs-review-lulz/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=347756.msg5082140#msg5082140 & https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=347756.msg5084496#msg5084496
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=347756.msg4800434#msg4800434
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=470944.msg5330069#msg5330069

Yes, there ARE customers that have ordered and chose surface mail without realising how slow it is. We have done our best to accommodate them and assist them, but ultimately there isn't much we can do - the shipping timelines are listed when you choose a shipping method. We've also removed surface mail as a shipping option, to our detriment, as we could no longer trust that people were choosing it knowingly and willingly - everyone suddenly claims ignorance when they realise that a published transit time of 6-10+ weeks means just that.

The vast majority of serious negativity has been courtesy of a known scammer that I "scorned" by calling him out, recalling his parcel before it left the country, and refunding him. All of his sock-puppet accounts have had negative trust ratings when they're spotted. More info: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=484653.0

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[KWH]

Order ID: 1125
Date Added: 23/12/2013

I received mine, took a little time but it did arrive. Posted about it in one of the OpenRigs threads.
I also paid with BTC so if it was a scam I would have lost my coin.

[clouds0]

Made my order in December 9th, 2013, today March 25th, 2014 NOTHING.... I MEAN NOTHING, ZERO, NADA has arrive to me yet

Bellow is my order history:

Code:

Order History
Date Added	Status Tracking No. Comment
09/12/2013	Awaiting Bitcoin confirmations		
09/12/2013	Processing and pre-fabrication		
13/12/2013	Fabrication	Aluminium has arrived (yay!), plastic is being moulded at the speed of soft thunder, and we're fabricating away!
06/01/2014	Shipped, pending customs check. Thank you for your patience over this holiday season. Your parcel has gone off to customs, who will now do a little x-ray (or whatever they do there) and a paperwork check to make sure all is in order. Once that's done we'll be given tracking numbers, which we'll send on to you:)
03/02/2014	Shipped to customer CN******ZA We've gotten your tracking number back from customs, and your parcel is on its way to you:)

DO NOT BUY FROM THEM, THEY ARE SCAMERS

[fluffypony]

@cloud0

Well his shipping method has a 13 week maximum transit time, and an expected general transit time of 6-10 weeks from the time it leaves the country, so based on his timeline it's unsurprising he hasn't received it.

[SgtMoth]

I ordered 2 X frames on 12 Dec,  paid via paypal.  Shipping to Canada. Website stated product shipped 09 Jan.

The issue is that I still haven't received any package.  Tracking number has been provided, and it is confusing.  Either they are the victims of the South African postal system (likely the 2nd worst in the world...  North Korea likely has the worst),  or they are a scam.  My package is reportedly in Capemail as of 23 Jan.

Sent email today,  and still havn't heard anything.

Will advise when I figure out what is going on,

Ryan

thats funny!  I ordered on 13/12/2013 with btc and he says it shipped more then a month later then yours, on feb 14.  this is a scam

[fluffypony]

I ordered 2 X frames on 12 Dec,  paid via paypal.  Shipping to Canada. Website stated product shipped 09 Jan.

The issue is that I still haven't received any package.  Tracking number has been provided, and it is confusing.  Either they are the victims of the South African postal system (likely the 2nd worst in the world...  North Korea likely has the worst),  or they are a scam.  My package is reportedly in Capemail as of 23 Jan.

Sent email today,  and still havn't heard anything.

Will advise when I figure out what is going on,

Ryan

thats funny!  I ordered on 13/12/2013 with btc and he says it shipped more then a month later then yours, on feb 14.  this is a scam

How on EARTH do you gather that? We have no control over how customs processes it and in what order it is processed. We provide it to them in order, but they can do whatever they want from there.

Do yourself a favour and READ what I wrote on the topic of surface mail before you call us a scam and make yourself look foolish: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=470944.msg5945585#msg5945585

[clouds0]

just stop! ffs! we all know your a damn scam!

ps. how does it feel not having the power to delete negative posts Mr.Fluffy?

[fluffypony]

just stop! ffs! we all know your a damn scam!

Really, new-user-who-hasn't-ordered-from-us-but-knows-everything?

And what do you base this conclusion on, given that there are multiple people on this forum that have confirmed receipt, even some who paid for a slow shipping method? Don't troll, extrapolate your conclusion logically and explain how you arrived there.

[dream22]

just stop! ffs! we all know your a damn scam!

Really, new-user-who-hasn't-ordered-from-us-but-knows-everything?

And what do you base this conclusion on, given that there are multiple people on this forum that have confirmed receipt, even some who paid for a slow shipping method? Don't troll, extrapolate your conclusion logically and explain how you arrived there.

do our usernames show up on your orders page? I find it cool how talented you are by being able to tell if someone ordered by looking at the username and how new someone is here.. that's a very cool talent

[fluffypony]

just stop! ffs! we all know your a damn scam!

Really, new-user-who-hasn't-ordered-from-us-but-knows-everything?

And what do you base this conclusion on, given that there are multiple people on this forum that have confirmed receipt, even some who paid for a slow shipping method? Don't troll, extrapolate your conclusion logically and explain how you arrived there.

do our usernames show up on your orders page? I find it cool how talented you are by being able to tell if someone ordered by looking at the username and how new someone is here.. that's a very cool talent

Oh look, a user that just registered and is joining in the trolling!

Dzelil, your obviousness betrays you. You need to learn to be more subtle if you're going to troll this thread. Maybe make up an order number, see if that works. At least it'll give you a moment of credibility.

[dream22]

that's what I thought, scammer!

can't even answer a simple question

[fluffypony]

that's what I thought, scammer!

can't even answer a simple question

Your question was clearly rhetorical and required no answer.

Why don't you do us all a favour, since you're so confident: tell us all your order number and when you ordered?

[SgtMoth]

I ordered 2 X frames on 12 Dec,  paid via paypal.  Shipping to Canada. Website stated product shipped 09 Jan.

The issue is that I still haven't received any package.  Tracking number has been provided, and it is confusing.  Either they are the victims of the South African postal system (likely the 2nd worst in the world...  North Korea likely has the worst),  or they are a scam.  My package is reportedly in Capemail as of 23 Jan.

Sent email today,  and still havn't heard anything.

Will advise when I figure out what is going on,

Ryan

thats funny!  I ordered on 13/12/2013 with btc and he says it shipped more then a month later then yours, on feb 14.  this is a scam

ya, your right. i do feel foolish for defending you in your first thread and for actually sending you money.  You knew exactly how fucken bad the delivery would be and told people 4-6wks.  You knew customs was fucked, but never fucken warned anyone or offered refunds.  How the fuck am i suppose to know theres a fucken strike, tell me and ill take my refund.  whats that?  i wont get it for 4 months, sure ill take my fucken refund. you fucken piece of shit....

[bobsag3]

Ordered black friday- still nothing.

[SgtMoth]

Ordered black friday- still nothing.

sorry, that was a holiday!  they had the day off!

[dream22]

Ordered black friday- still nothing.

sorry, that was a holiday!  they had the day off!

haha! so true he used that excuse always!

[csa1234]

tell you what Mr. Flufy, if... and i mean with big  IF i ever receive the frame for my rig i will post here about it, and even apologize plus i will upload picture of the rig with a funny face of me and asking for apologize... in the meanwhile... you are guilty untill I receive the item...

[sandor111]

Ordered black friday- still nothing.

Nothing, same here.

[fluffypony]

tell you what Mr. Flufy, if... and i mean with big  IF i ever receive the frame for my rig i will post here about it, and even apologize plus i will upload picture of the rig with a funny face of me and asking for apologize... in the meanwhile... you are guilty untill I receive the item...

Sounds good - mind giving me your order number so I can monitor it from this end? Because I mostly don't believe you'll own up to it arriving.

[fluffypony]

Ordered black friday- still nothing.

Nothing, same here.

Order number, please?