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March 02, 2020, 06:57:27 PM
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@OP, still are you seeing red trust on marlboroza's profile?

If I go as dt I see the -1 : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=787736;dt
If I go by my normal settings, I don't see the -1 because Vispilio is excluded, although not directly (he's not in my distrust list).

So OP may indeed see the -1.

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March 02, 2020, 07:02:12 PM
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@OP, still are you seeing red trust on marlboroza's profile?

If I go as dt I see the -1 : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=787736;dt
If I go by my normal settings, I don't see the -1 because Vispilio is excluded, although not directly (he's not in my distrust list).

So OP may indeed see the -1.

When Coolcryptovator excluded Vispilio, the orange "-1" on marlboroza's profile was briefly gone, but then imhoneer included peloso who includes Vispilio so he's back in DT and the
"-1" is showing again (with DT settings).
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March 02, 2020, 10:12:29 PM
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I had to un-ignore OP...
Marlboroza also including scammer and trust abusers on his trust list.
Nonsense. Dude, you sound like this:

https://youtu.be/cmlq40G9xK8?t=20

And Vispilio with his rants sound like this:

https://youtu.be/cmlq40G9xK8?t=99
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March 02, 2020, 10:16:06 PM
Last edit: March 02, 2020, 10:28:50 PM by Lauda
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Simple solution: Do not employ anyone from the Turkish section until they as a group mature up. Problem solved. IIRC this is the most problematic section I have dealt with in all my history here (and Asian shitposters I have dealt with in countless number - which says a lot).

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March 02, 2020, 11:17:22 PM
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Simple solution: Do not employ anyone from the Turkish section until they as a group mature up. Problem solved. IIRC this is the most problematic section I have dealt with in all my history here (and Asian shitposters I have dealt with in countless number - which says a lot).

Now that does sound racist. I don't think you should be trying to influence them to endure your double standards and scamming by threatening to crush their chances to earn from the forum like you and your toadies.

If they are presenting you with a problem they likely must have more courage and moral fiber than most other members. The forum needs strong opposition to scammers and extortionists like you.
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March 03, 2020, 07:33:49 AM
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Simple solution: Do not employ anyone from the Turkish section until they as a group mature up. Problem solved. IIRC this is the most problematic section I have dealt with in all my history here (and Asian shitposters I have dealt with in countless number - which says a lot).
Now that does sound racist. I don't think you should be trying to influence them to endure your double standards and scamming by threatening to crush their chances to earn from the forum like you and your toadies.
Nope. You can scream and shout racism, but that will lead you to nowhere. They have created a problem themselves, and I am offering a simple solution to it. That is it.  Smiley

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Simple solution: Do not employ anyone from the Turkish section until they as a group mature up. Problem solved. IIRC this is the most problematic section I have dealt with in all my history here (and Asian shitposters I have dealt with in countless number - which says a lot).
Now that does sound racist. I don't think you should be trying to influence them to endure your double standards and scamming by threatening to crush their chances to earn from the forum like you and your toadies.
Nope. You can scream and shout racism, but that will lead you to nowhere. They have created a problem themselves, and I am offering a simple solution to it. That is it.  Smiley

Is it inspired by the final solution?
No, they have made it clear they will not put up with your gaming the system for your own personal gain. You are suggesting they do as you think they should, else you will try to extort or blackmail them by cutting rev streams based on race that will have negative impact on their entire board.

I think any campaign manager operating according to your suggestion will be swiftly removed or their project will be open to serious and sustained crticism.

Chipmixer clearly does sponsor a colluding group that cycle merits and self install themselves on DT. Sadly many are scammer supporters or shit posters. I'm not sure there is a clear racist theme but rather any group or individual that is not supporting the colluding group will be denied.

Darkstar is certainly not selecting the most valuable posters and there are clearly some very untrustworthy members being sponsored and their trust abuse and scammer supporting does place the entire board at greater risk.

Chipmixer will certainly be negatively impacted by this off things do not change.

Darkstar should stop relying on the gamed and worthless self provided metrics that merit sources and DT slather themselves up with. Do his own deep investigations.

He should also consider rotating positions so every good poster that is trustworthy get a taste.



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March 03, 2020, 11:10:48 AM
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Simple solution: Do not employ anyone from the Turkish section until they as a group mature up.
Yeah, it's ironic that they cry "racism!", which implies that they don't want to be judged as a group, but as individuals, and yet they're probably the most nationalistic group on the forum and the one through which runs a particularly nasty attitude--collectively.  It could be that it's just the most vocal of the bunch that's giving them all a bad name, but I'm not hearing a lot of dissent in their ranks.

Turkey isn't a race, either. 

I wouldn't say Chipmixer or any other campaign shouldn't accept anyone from the Turkish section.  They should be judged by the same standards as anyone else.  But if I'm not mistaken most campaigns still only pay for posts in English, and some of the writing I've seen by the loudest of the Turkish posse is just atrocious.  It's no wonder why they're not getting into the Chipmixer campaign, though I don't know about any of the others.

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March 03, 2020, 11:26:14 AM
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It's like saying all Bitcoiner are criminal because 1.1% of total cryptocurrency transaction is associated with criminal activity[1]

Besides, you claim that "sponsoring many of the forums dangerous members", but i have yet to see research which analyze all participant whether they're "dangerous" or not.
Prove your statement by analyzing all ChipMixer participant, you can start by looking at list of ChipMixer participant[2]

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1. https://blog.chainalysis.com/reports/cryptocurrency-crime-2020-report
2. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17P52DifaD7YfvzLkX3wrxGVpKcaPHY4y57ZpI-FK754/edit?usp=sharing

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March 03, 2020, 01:02:17 PM
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Simple solution: Do not employ anyone from the Turkish section until they as a group mature up.
Yeah, it's ironic that they cry "racism!", which implies that they don't want to be judged as a group, but as individuals, and yet they're probably the most nationalistic group on the forum and the one through which runs a particularly nasty attitude--collectively.  It could be that it's just the most vocal of the bunch that's giving them all a bad name, but I'm not hearing a lot of dissent in their ranks.

Turkey isn't a race, either.  

I wouldn't say Chipmixer or any other campaign shouldn't accept anyone from the Turkish section.  They should be judged by the same standards as anyone else.  But if I'm not mistaken most campaigns still only pay for posts in English, and some of the writing I've seen by the loudest of the Turkish posse is just atrocious.  It's no wonder why they're not getting into the Chipmixer campaign, though I don't know about any of the others.

Thepharmacist is supporting 2 proven scammers. Has been caught greedy and racist trolling with sockpuppet HugeBlackWoman for highest paying signatures.
Where is your plethora of high value original posts?
Dishonest, cheater, racist shitposter. Clear examples.
Many on the Turkish board are far more knowledgeable and produce far higher quality posts.
Etfbitcon if chipmixer has knowledge even one they sponsor is racist, scammer or trust abuser to place in danger other members they are culpable and must give answer in public this is their intention. To sponsor this behaviour.
You are not suitable, darkstar chose you not based valuable posts and trustworthy behaviour  
He is full of shit hiring racist, low value greedy cheater and scammer supporting.

Do he thepharmacist deny you are responsible for HugeBlackWoman insulting racist anti semite and nasty behavior?

Chipmixer hire this member and not honest valuable poster because nepotism and racist bias.

Coincidentally chipmixer sponsored racists and cheaters come to defend chipmixer nepotism and mates club
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March 03, 2020, 01:20:00 PM
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What a surprise seeing newbie alt-account imbeciles bonesjonesreturns along with truth or dare playing good-doggy-fetch with equally imbecilic Vispilio in this pointless thread.

They share the all the quintessential elements that general low-life trolls and attention seeking fools possess what has really made them frustrated is that they have been unable to get on to the Chipmixer campaign therefore they have accused various community members of sabotage and then also turned on the hand they wanted to feed them by citing racism.

Very disgusting behaviour by that tiny minority from the Turkish language board headed by deluded fool Vispilio. By enlarge the majority of the Turkish language board are excellent members of this forum but these handful of trolls have really tried to ruin for the rest of them.


~suchmoon is the only one who has to bring "racism" bullshit every time into the debate in a childish pathetic attempt to discredit dissenting opinions on this forum.

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I think chipmixer owner should come .I will ask him why such a large proportion of chipmixer advertisers are sponsored that also trust abuse other members and why most are from  same pool of people that share merit and trust inclusions.
I will ask him to see the highest quality posters and most trustworthy members then show me.
The reason they appointed a campaign manager is to take care of these activities and he is doing a good job and they are satisfied with the way the campaign is run and the selection process is always the campaign managers discretion and there is no point in crying about that.

Suppose you are the campaign manager of Chipmixer i would like to see your list of high quality posters in your opinion and then i will respond to your nepotism and racist bias claims in a forum where everyone is known as alias behind a laptop Tongue Cheesy . I am seeing these kind of threads quite often and it is quite funny and cringe worthy to be frank and wanted to know your real story behind these claims Wink.
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March 03, 2020, 01:38:49 PM
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real story behind these claims

Someone exposed ban evasion and other shenanigans on the Turkish board, and that someone happened to be wearing a Chipmixer signature.
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I think chipmixer owner should come .I will ask him why such a large proportion of chipmixer advertisers are sponsored that also trust abuse other members and why most are from  same pool of people that share merit and trust inclusions.
I will ask him to see the highest quality posters and most trustworthy members then show me.
The reason they appointed a campaign manager is to take care of these activities and he is doing a good job and they are satisfied with the way the campaign is run and the selection process is always the campaign managers discretion and there is no point in crying about that.

Suppose you are the campaign manager of Chipmixer i would like to see your list of high quality posters in your opinion and then i will respond to your nepotism and racist bias claims in a forum where everyone is known as alias behind a laptop Tongue Cheesy . I am seeing these kind of threads quite often and it is quite funny and cringe worthy to be frank and wanted to know your real story behind these claims Wink.


If they are satisfied with him hiring proven racist dishonest cheaters and trust abusers, these are dangerous and destroy huge trust system and can destroy our free speech. then that could be something people should be aware wheb using their service.

If I will be the campaign manager I will not have proven racists like HugeBlackWoman ThePharmacist or any one abusing the trust system or anyone supporting scammers. Post value will not spoil chipmixer like this ones  but of course I will not want all from one group in meta who posts the same thing and fighting all times. Many are posting no valuable points of their own and a lot in meta. Chipmixer must be stupid to waste payment on chipmixer in meta on this rabble   

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Last edit: March 03, 2020, 02:44:26 PM by JollyGood
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What nonsense are you going on about now? Just because your alter-ego was not selected for the Chipmixer campaign does not make the campaign manager a racist.

None of you deserved to be part of the campaign. Instead of looking at your behaviour and trying to change so you could apply on the next occasion the Chipmixer campaign are open for candidates, you shout "racist". Pathetic.

Vispilio is now rightfully displaying the thegeomadao.com banner which guarantees just a percentage of bounty tokens whenever they will be released.


If they are satisfied with him hiring proven racist dishonest cheaters and trust abusers, these are dangerous and destroy huge trust system and can destroy our free speech. then that could be something people should be aware wheb using their service.

If I will be the campaign manager I will not have proven racists like HugeBlackWoman ThePharmacist or any one abusing the trust system or anyone supporting scammers. Post value will not spoil chipmixer like this ones  but of course I will not want all from one group in meta who posts the same thing and fighting all times. Many are posting no valuable points of their own and a lot in meta. Chipmixer must be stupid to waste payment on chipmixer in meta on this rabble  

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March 03, 2020, 02:40:18 PM
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If they are satisfied with him hiring proven racist dishonest cheaters and trust abusers, these are dangerous and destroy huge trust system and can destroy our free speech. then that could be something people should be aware wheb using their service.

If I will be the campaign manager I will not have proven racists like HugeBlackWoman ThePharmacist or any one abusing the trust system or anyone supporting scammers. Post value will not spoil chipmixer like this ones  but of course I will not want all from one group in meta who posts the same thing and fighting all times. Many are posting no valuable points of their own and a lot in meta. Chipmixer must be stupid to waste payment on chipmixer in meta on this rabble  

Just want to point out this is definitely cryptohunter's alt (as well as truth or dare). He felt he wasn't getting enough of a reaction when trying to be "mild-mannered" under truth or dare, so he's invented yet another persona to attack the same group of people on the forum. The only thing different is he is using two alts concurrently instead of sticking to just the one.

How do I know?

There's only 5 instances on the forum of someone using the term "proven racist." One belongs to CryptoSparks, two belong to cryptohunter, and two belong to bonesjonesreturns.

The Pharmacist- proven racist trolling sock puppet sig spammer

I would love to see how this proven racist financially motivated sock puppet troll voted.  

They are also similarly obsessed with the same topics: ChipMixer, trust abuse, merit, and DT.

As well as the same users: The Pharmacist, Lauda, JollyGood, mosprognoz

Also, nobody brings up HugeBlackWoman except for him. Probably because nobody cares.

The fact that they are pretending to now be a non-native English speaker is kind of amusing. But this is definitely cryptohunter, upping his trolling game by running 2 alts at the same time.

To get to the topic, ChipMixer does have 1 Turkish member: Kalemder. So are they not racist now, or just less racist?

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March 03, 2020, 03:18:33 PM
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Also, nobody brings up HugeBlackWoman except for him. Probably because nobody cares.

Yeah that was a dead giveaway.

To get to the topic, ChipMixer does have 1 Turkish member: Kalemder.

Not anymore: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17P52DifaD7YfvzLkX3wrxGVpKcaPHY4y57ZpI-FK754

Thus the recent wave of accusations of racism.
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Last edit: March 03, 2020, 04:59:34 PM by truth or dare
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Also, nobody brings up HugeBlackWoman except for him. Probably because nobody cares.

Yeah that was a dead giveaway.

To get to the topic, ChipMixer does have 1 Turkish member: Kalemder.

Not anymore: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17P52DifaD7YfvzLkX3wrxGVpKcaPHY4y57ZpI-FK754

Thus the recent wave of accusations of racism.

The obsession with cryptohunter is excellent. Every member presenting the truth should be thought of as cryptohunter.  

Everyone is cryptohunter. A proven racist is the proof of proven cryptohunter.

The proof of trolling is simply the proof of telling the truth.
I have been looking into nutildahs history. I will address it on his own thread.

Being a proven crytohunter alt myself according to the sold account of nutildah and alt of lauda, I want to say that I do not say DarkStar is anywhere near as bad as many of these other proven scammer supporters and trust abusers. He is likely just wishing for an easy life here.

Chipmixer reputation is being damaged by sponsoring Those members that abuse the trust system.

Nutildah claims nobody cares about ThePharmacists use of a puppet account to racist troll spam for the highest dog returns he could milk from the forum. Nobody cares at chipmixer it seems. Racist trolling sneaky sock puppet Sig spamming  is cool with them right?


Nutildah also claims that nobody should care that he has demonstrated he will facilitate scamming for around 300 dollars and will try to delete evidence once this was brought to the attention if other members.

Suchmoon supports both of these members but tries to silence members that raise these points.

Suchmoon supports proven scammers like lauda and is trying to prevent objective transparent standards that would ensure equal treatment of all members.

Chipmixer as you can see sponsors suchmoon who runs away from debating laudas scamming. Suchmoon prefers to pretend to be objective while doing all he can to prevent The subjective gamed metrics being abolished.



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Everyone is cryptohunter. A proven racist is the proof of proven cryptohunter.

Lol wut?  You're supposed to bungle up your English with the other account.  Did you lose track?


Chipmixer reputation is being damaged by sponsoring Those members that abuse the trust system.

Chipmixer is being promoted by the best representatives on the forum.  Look their spreadsheet and you'll find a very diverse crowd of knowledgeable, helpful, polite, and respectful individuals.  There are a handful of Chipmixer promoters that post in Meta and Reputation, and they don't always agree.  In fact, there has been at least one Chipmixer promoter in recent months that has been quite critical of many DT1 members, and has even sided Tecshare's "guild."  So your observations are, once again, flawed.  Your perspective has been skewed by your hatred and jealousy, to the point where you can't see "observable facts."


Suchmoon supports proven scammers like lauda and is trying to prevent objective transparent standards that would ensure equal treatment of all members.

Oh, really?  Please expand on that claim.  Roll Eyes

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33. ~Lauda (Trust: +34 / =3 / -0) (1441 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.

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Everyone is cryptohunter. A proven racist is the proof of proven cryptohunter.

Lol wut?  You're supposed to bungle up your English with the other account.  Did you lose track?


Chipmixer reputation is being damaged by sponsoring Those members that abuse the trust system.

Chipmixer is being promoted by the best representatives on the forum.  Look their spreadsheet and you'll find a very diverse crowd of knowledgeable, helpful, polite, and respectful individuals.  There are a handful of Chipmixer promoters that post in Meta and Reputation, and they don't always agree.  In fact, there has been at least one Chipmixer promoter in recent months that has been quite critical of many DT1 members, and has even sided Tecshare's "guild."  So your observations are, once again, flawed.  Your perspective has been skewed by your hatred and jealousy, to the point where you can't see "observable facts."


Suchmoon supports proven scammers like lauda and is trying to prevent objective transparent standards that would ensure equal treatment of all members.

Oh, really?  Please expand on that claim.  Roll Eyes

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33. ~Lauda (Trust: +34 / =3 / -0) (1441 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.


Hi suchmoon.

Where to start with such a sloppy mess.

Ok, let's break it down and destroy it.

Proven racist is proof of proven cryptohunter. Read nutildahs proof of proven cryptohunter. You'll get it eventually.

Your sig spamming opinion on chipmixer sponsored trust abusers and therefore the danger they place the forum at by devaluing that system is of no interest. You need to debunk the clear examples of chipmixer trust abusers that have been provided many times over.

As previously mentioned there is no requirement to demonstrate all are trust abusers or scammer supporters. Only that some are and that they still remain chipmixer sponsored.

It is nice that you recognize lauda as being the obvious scammer reference being made. I maintain suchmoon remains a scammer supporter.

* they support another auction scammer. and self confessed trust abuser

* they support a self confessed willing scam facilitator for pay

* they did include lauda for a long time it is also as they know not required for lauda to remain in DT for now

* they stabbed Theymos in the back and tried to undermine his reasonable suggestion to remove a proven scammer, extortionist , shady escrow and trust abuser from a position of trust

* There are many ways to support a scammer and their potential to scam and abuse outside of including them

* they stalk and try to discredit any serious critic of lauda

* they never openly agree to discuss the undeniable scamming of lauda

* they will not red trust lauda or flag him for scamming

thanks for allowing me to assist your understanding of my clearly undenible and irrefutable points.

I am more than happy to open a thread to debate this if you like.

This is about chipmixer and sponsorship of trust abusers, the dangers they pose and the scammer supporting shit posters they sponsor. This I maintain is clearly a very robust POV and you Will find it impossible to debunk. I invite you to try. This thread should be long and active.
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