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March 03, 2020, 04:18:06 PM
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To make it easier, I will eventually post a spreadsheet tomorrow with everyone accepted.
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March 03, 2020, 04:39:36 PM
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  kingcolex is right, is too much asked from the members

  What I could suggest is making bonus for the posts of the requirements, (with a mention of no spam, no inutile posts..)

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March 03, 2020, 05:41:43 PM
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  kingcolex is right, is too much asked from the members

  What I could suggest is making bonus for the posts of the requirements, (with a mention of no spam, no inutile posts..)

Yes. If someone wants from participants of his campaign, then he needs to accept users who're certainly open a lot of new threads. of course, there are such users which open threads without any signature requirements. If it's not possible to have enough participants who will open new threads and make a serious discussion on them, then is probably campaign payments rate so low and campaign can attract only low-quality posters or spammers.

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March 03, 2020, 06:08:48 PM
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To meet all these requirements, users will create threads like "Will the price of Bitcoin go up or down?", "What altcoin to buy?", "Who wants to pee?" .. Such threads will not add anything and will only look like talk of village fools.
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March 03, 2020, 06:13:32 PM
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I honestly had a feeling a signature would pop up after OP has asked whether it's okay for a signature campaign to require a number of threads to be written per week. But crypto1010, do not put words in my mouth.

Your comments are appreciated but we are not changing the rules right now as I have asked already if they were ok. I would appreciate it if you guys stopped spamming this thread while complaining about spam.
Let's go back to the question you've asked before launching this campaign. This was my answer:

This most likely leads to an insane boost in new created threads and nobody will participate in others' threads because their only interest is to create new ones themselves.

I don't want this to become the next CryptoShit forum. We're already having enough members leaving their crap to dry everywhere on the forum. Not to mention newbies will start creating threads instead of posts, thinking the campaign managers will accept them only if they have some long-ass useless threads hanging around the forum.

Moreover, I believe there's a difference between creating a thread and writing a reply. Creating a thread needs a pretty good structure (I have some shitty threads myself). How will one qualify for a campaign (or how will a manager accept someone) without the participant spamming with new threads?

I have never stated that it is a good idea. In fact, I think my answer was pretty clear so were others'. I am in no doubt that you may have understood the wrong thing and thought it's okay to launch this shitty rule. It's an incentive to spam. Your participants will launch 5 threads each per week and then they'll answer each other's threads so they could also complete the minimum post per created thread rule. SPAM.

"but we are not changing the rules right now" That shows how much respect you have for this forum and for the members of it. Hey, dude, do you think it's that easy to get away with what you've just begun? Because you are now using this excuse against the forum and to defend the crap you've launched. You are not new here on the forum. You know very damn well how it works and how many shitposters YoBit had, hence you're consciously doing exactly what members of BitcoinTalk despise.

Did you just call us spammers? I mean, you're literally making your participants spam the forum.. hmm, spider-man blaming meme, here it comes Cheesy
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March 03, 2020, 06:25:35 PM
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~snip~

If I can suggest to the OP, it would be nice if the rules and payments for participants in your campaign are adjusted to other campaigns, with you makes it easy for participants to work in the campaign and you also easily get the participants you want, of course the ones with the best quality.
You are right, friend. even I am confused by the rules he made on the OP. actually I want to include in the campaign information thread that I made on the local board but until now I do not understand, so I undo my intention to include in the list on my thread. [INFO] Signature Campaign [Hanya Pembayaran Bitcoin]| Ter-Update !!!
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March 03, 2020, 07:27:38 PM
Last edit: March 03, 2020, 08:00:34 PM by CjMapope
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Your comments are appreciated but we are not changing the rules right now as I have asked already if they were ok. I would appreciate it if you guys stopped spamming this thread while complaining about spam.


uhh, who did you ask?   cause keep in mind Theymos has no problem with 99% of campaigns, its not HIM you need to worry about
you have to make sure the DT cabal here approves of your campaign, or they will red tag anyone involved and find dirt to make your project itself look bad

your requirements come off really spammy, tbh, i also wont even consider applying for the same reasons KingColex mentioned man :/
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March 03, 2020, 07:54:26 PM
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Your comments are appreciated but we are not changing the rules right now as I have asked already if they were ok. I would appreciate it if you guys stopped spamming this thread while complaining about spam.
Commenting on the absurd rules of a campaign that will lead to sitewide spam is NOT spamming especially when in the confines of the signature campaign thread.

You don't want to end up being the next yobit campaign and dealing with the negative consequences a poorly planned campaign can bring.

By the way you didn't mention you asked about this in Meta where it was universally agreed it was a terrible idea and even had Staff saying it would help them know who to temp ban and perm ban.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229229.0

This entire thing is a terrible idea and the other post requirements brought up weren't discussed (front to third page replies) and it is also getting much negative attention.


Seriously, I advise everyone to find a different campaign, this will not end well.

you are 100% right.
I applied, then double-checked the conditions and do not want to risk being flagged as a thread spammer.

But, it will be fun to look who is accepted, and what type of shit thread they start.
It will also be fun to see statistics after a few weeks of how many people get temporary ban  and or red trust for creating shit topic just to fill a quote to earn $40 / week

it ain't much but it's honest work
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March 04, 2020, 01:06:07 AM
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@crypto1010, I will be withdrawing my application. and btw, thanks for accepting me. good luck to your campaign!

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March 04, 2020, 02:32:02 AM
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5 threads per week are no problem for @crypto1010, he is a thread fast-maker. He won't run out of ideas to make it.

Look how he did it in only 2 days, excellent !!! Shocked
Yep, OP has carried out due diligence before he made the campaign requirements. Maybe according to him it will be fine ...Lol

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- Minimum 5 OP posts (Meaning threads created) every week.
- Minimum of 5 constructive posts on the first page of a thread.
- And an additional minimum of 10 more constructive posts up to the third page of a thread.

So you're looking for sixteen people to create between them a total of 80 new threads (every week) and then keep coming back to those threads week after week to effectively necro bump them if they are not popular.  (Mods delete posts if the same poster posts days apart without any other poster participating, so you'll end up with participants posting "quality" posts only to have those posts deleted because no one else has posted.).

Ad visibility/exposure. If a topic takes off most people won't browse through all the posts, and regardless of the topic length, the first 1-3 pages are more likely to be seeing more views. Participants of campaigns with such rules can expect to be watched closely by users and mods alike.

Might want to re-think how your campaign is conducted.

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March 04, 2020, 05:57:54 AM
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I'm more interested in what goal does this campaign want to achieve?
If it is about spam, it would be enough to provide rules for example a minimum of 50 posts per week and a minimum of 20 characters in the post. That should be enough.
Now it's more like a challenge / competition than a promotional campaign.

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March 04, 2020, 06:06:48 AM
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80 threads in the first week, 160 threads in the second week. 240 threads in the third and so on.

The participants have to bump their five, then ten then fifteen threads (with quality posts mind you) just to qualify.

Ten weeks into the campaign they will be writing fifty quality posts to bump their own threads  (all sixteen participants). By week ten that's 800 additional threads.

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Your bitcointalk profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=140736
Your current posts count (including this one): 4636
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Last edit: March 04, 2020, 02:37:28 PM by mprep
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- Minimum 5 OP posts (Meaning threads created) every week.
- Minimum of 5 constructive posts on the first page of a thread.
- And an additional minimum of 10 more constructive posts up to the third page of a thread.

So you're looking for sixteen people to create between them a total of 80 new threads (every week) and then keep coming back to those threads week after week to effectively necro bump them if they are not popular.  (Mods delete posts if the same poster posts days apart without any other poster participating, so you'll end up with participants posting "quality" posts only to have those posts deleted because no one else has posted.).

Ad visibility/exposure. If a topic takes off most people won't browse through all the posts, and regardless of the topic length, the first 1-3 pages are more likely to be seeing more views. Participants of campaigns with such rules can expect to be watched closely by users and mods alike.

Might want to re-think how your campaign is conducted.

Baseless assumption.
There is no claim of minimum bumps or views. Stop fabricating reality from your own narrow imagination.




- Minimum 5 OP posts (Meaning threads created) every week.
- Minimum of 5 constructive posts on the first page of a thread.
- And an additional minimum of 10 more constructive posts up to the third page of a thread.

So you're looking for sixteen people to create between them a total of 80 new threads (every week) and then keep coming back to those threads week after week to effectively necro bump them if they are not popular.  (Mods delete posts if the same poster posts days apart without any other poster participating, so you'll end up with participants posting "quality" posts only to have those posts deleted because no one else has posted.).

Ad visibility/exposure. If a topic takes off most people won't browse through all the posts, and regardless of the topic length, the first 1-3 pages are more likely to be seeing more views. Participants of campaigns with such rules can expect to be watched closely by users and mods alike.

Might want to re-think how your campaign is conducted.

The comment from the mod should be headed as such: don't break the rules.
This is something that every participant of every campaign should heed.



I'm more interested in what goal does this campaign want to achieve?
If it is about spam, it would be enough to provide rules for example a minimum of 50 posts per week and a minimum of 20 characters in the post. That should be enough.
Now it's more like a challenge / competition than a promotional campaign.

Spam builds no value, just like posts on the 5th page of a bygone thread.
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Last edit: March 04, 2020, 01:50:33 PM by mprep
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I am a high quality well known poster with tons of history, I would never join this with the current requirements.

The price is low to average but the requirements are ridiculous.

I don't expect anyone with any decent reputation to agree to creating 5 topics a week. That is a spam topic madness that just won't fly. This has to be removed, the other requirements are weird too, first page only or up to third page, this just creates a race to post and lower quality replies. It's all junk and needs to be redone.


This is not a good start.

I'd expect a user who self-proclaims a great history of work on the forum to be able to quickly assess user behavior in content consumption on threads. It's typically limited to the first few, if not only the first, pages.




- Minimum 5 OP posts (Meaning threads created) every week.
- Minimum of 5 constructive posts on the first page of a thread.
- And an additional minimum of 10 more constructive posts up to the third page of a thread.

So you're looking for sixteen people to create between them a total of 80 new threads (every week) and then keep coming back to those threads week after week to effectively necro bump them if they are not popular.  (Mods delete posts if the same poster posts days apart without any other poster participating, so you'll end up with participants posting "quality" posts only to have those posts deleted because no one else has posted.).

Ad visibility/exposure. If a topic takes off most people won't browse through all the posts, and regardless of the topic length, the first 1-3 pages are more likely to be seeing more views. Participants of campaigns with such rules can expect to be watched closely by users and mods alike.

Might want to re-think how your campaign is conducted.

Baseless assumption.
There is no claim of minimum bumps or views. Stop fabricating reality from your own narrow imagination.
Multiple accounts of OP? Did you forget to switch accounts?  COO of Daomaker while OP post countless Daomaker threads. How is Daomaker involved with this?

OP will handle the campaign due to his experience with Bitcointalk.
I'm here representing BlockZone.

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For some one so concerned with spam, you have an odd tendency to spam this thread, with multiple accounts might I add.
Constant statements irrelevant to application are not distant from qualifying as spam. If you have concerns, PM me.
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March 04, 2020, 10:19:10 AM
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I am a high quality well known poster with tons of history, I would never join this with the current requirements.

The price is low to average but the requirements are ridiculous.

I don't expect anyone with any decent reputation to agree to creating 5 topics a week. That is a spam topic madness that just won't fly. This has to be removed, the other requirements are weird too, first page only or up to third page, this just creates a race to post and lower quality replies. It's all junk and needs to be redone.


This is not a good start.

It seems like the new OP is holding a bitcoin signature campaign so the rules do not match what other managers are using, maybe this does not matter to the OP because he has considered it but what I am surprised is Sr.Member goes to the legendary why the Hero is passed or not needed ?

Hero users are allowed, but will share slots with legendary and understandably priority will be given to the latter if all things held equal.
Of course, Hero members with exceptional quality metrics will be prioritized.
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March 04, 2020, 10:23:41 AM
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- Minimum 5 OP posts (Meaning threads created) every week.
- Minimum of 5 constructive posts on the first page of a thread.
- And an additional minimum of 10 more constructive posts up to the third page of a thread.

So you're looking for sixteen people to create between them a total of 80 new threads (every week) and then keep coming back to those threads week after week to effectively necro bump them if they are not popular.  (Mods delete posts if the same poster posts days apart without any other poster participating, so you'll end up with participants posting "quality" posts only to have those posts deleted because no one else has posted.).

Ad visibility/exposure. If a topic takes off most people won't browse through all the posts, and regardless of the topic length, the first 1-3 pages are more likely to be seeing more views. Participants of campaigns with such rules can expect to be watched closely by users and mods alike.

Might want to re-think how your campaign is conducted.

Baseless assumption.
There is no claim of minimum bumps or views. Stop fabricating reality from your own narrow imagination.
Multiple accounts of OP? Did you forget to switch accounts?  COO of Daomaker while OP post countless Daomaker threads. How is Daomaker involved with this?

OP will handle the campaign due to his experience with Bitcointalk.
I'm here representing BlockZone.
So this starts to clear things up, blockzone is pro this because they are tied with the "social mining" Daomaker. Which as anyone can see even the OP spam posts for, 10 Daomaker topics in one section just the other day. If all Daomaker plans to bring to this site is paid advertisement I suggest you pay theymos for an advertisement directly. This is ridiculous, you're not helping your case and as far as paying OP for his "Bitcointalk experience" you obviously didn't do your research.

You're making a very bad name for yourself here, especially with the longtime users. This all seems extremely shady and the execution is terrible.

DAO Maker is a company consisting of more than 1 sector. You can learn more about it here: DAOmaker.com
Social Mining is our proprietary technology and it is one of our products used by most leading projects of 2019, and from 2020, Cornell University-based AVA. It's incomparable in its ability to deliver product enhancement and you can learn more about it on our site. It's not an end-user product so it most likely does not relate to you.

On the other hand, our research segment makes analytical content once a day, and the OP posts it here, which from what I can see, is not against the rules. As for OP's ability to manage this, I'd be the judge of that, not you.

With that said, BlockZone is by STP Network (read the first post to learn more). DAO Maker is a completely different company. I am personally representing BlockZone out of cooperative measures between me and them.
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