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[ronald98]

Dear NAS-Team,
 
Where are my Pending Deposits from NAS !!!
 
Three Weeks ago I have send 40.219.400 NAS Coins to my Bter.com Wallet-Adress 14428818721433318587
 
NAS    40219400.00000000    14428818721433318587    2014-12-30 22:19:52    COMPLETE: 16157803257724534684
 
Since today there where no NAS Coins listet on my Bter-Wallet for NAS. The Process is already in Pending. Because WHY ?! Please check out where my Cons are now.
 
Thank you for your help and I hope to clear the problems ;-)
 
Best Regards from
Frank Wiesenfelder at www.coinking.de

There is no NAS-Team, as far as I know the dev ran away and a new team has not taken over.

[tiker]

You're welcome!
Not quite sure how good/valid the blockchain is, I might as well be on my own fork.

I've still got my NAS client (1.1.3.N1) running... It has seen 3 peers but is only connected to 1 right now - "nxtnode.ddns.net".

My highest block right now is 217780 dated "05/02/2015 16:25:04".  What are you at?

[tclauss]

http://nascoin.org site and Official Client web are down . This is the end of NAS ? No sense whatever happened to this coin, the developer has disappeared without more ... he has died or gone to jail for some reason ? ? ? ?

[EvilDave]

Looks like NAS is well and truly dead, tbh.

The only activity I can see is the initiative from xyzzyx to snapshot the NAS blockchain and port balances over to ORA:
https://nxtforum.org/ora/korasibling-of-qorafree-fair-distributionregistration-countdown!!/200/

[lcharles123]

You're welcome!
Not quite sure how good/valid the blockchain is, I might as well be on my own fork.

I've still got my NAS client (1.1.3.N1) running... It has seen 3 peers but is only connected to 1 right now - "nxtnode.ddns.net".

My highest block right now is 217780 dated "05/02/2015 16:25:04".  What are you at?

I wanted to play with this on, had sold all the cattle in free giveaway when she was listed in DGEx
Is there any richlist to ask the coins for accounts with more units?
 
Why it uses the same port that the NXT?

Not work with Java8 

[patapato]

Yes, it works with Java8, mine is working with jre1.8.0_31.

@lcharles123, send me your account ID and I will send you 20 NAS for testing the blockchain and the network.

I also think that the port should be different than the one of NXT ... but it was the developer, he diappeared ... I think it was on his TODO list, because the README file and other files are also not changed from NXT.

[tiker]

Yes, it works with Java8, mine is working with jre1.8.0_31.

@lcharles123, send me your account ID and I will send you 20 NXT for testing the blockchain and the network.

I also think that the port should be different than the one of NXT ... but it was the developer, he diappeared ... I think it was on his TODO list, because the README file and other files are also not changed from NXT.

You mean 20 NAS? 

I'm running on jre1.8.0_25 myself, haven't updated to _31 yet.

I'll see if I can find a script or write one to output the "richlist" for the NAS accounts.  I don't even have an account with published public key since I only found NAS about 2 months ago.

[lcharles123]

Yes, it works with Java8, mine is working with jre1.8.0_31.

@lcharles123, send me your account ID and I will send you 20 NXT for testing the blockchain and the network.

I also think that the port should be different than the one of NXT ... but it was the developer, he diappeared ... I think it was on his TODO list, because the README file and other files are also not changed from NXT.

You mean 20 NAS? 

I'm running on jre1.8.0_25 myself, haven't updated to _31 yet.

I'll see if I can find a script or write one to output the "richlist" for the NAS accounts.  I don't even have an account with published public key since I only found NAS about 2 months ago.

I do not have the account address only the password, I run the latest version listed in the OP and just did not work. OK, I forgot to give the permissions to run.sh 

But the port of the web interface is the same as NXT, 7876 , the devs did not even bothered to change.

Code:

NAS-VBK9-5ZXA-CJQ8-GEWVU

Thanks!

[patapato]

You mean 20 NAS? 

Yes, 20 NAS, I corrected my offering :-)

Code:

NAS-VBK9-5ZXA-CJQ8-GEWVU

Thanks!

Done, now you have your first 20 NAS, on transaction 15842066818581290243:

   Date   Type   Amount   Fee   Account   Confirmations
   20/02/2015 11:20:45   Ordinary payment      20   1   NAS-VBK9-5ZXA-CJQ8-GEWVU   15

[tommy69778]

Yes, it works with Java8, mine is working with jre1.8.0_31.

@lcharles123, send me your account ID and I will send you 20 NAS for testing the blockchain and the network.

I also think that the port should be different than the one of NXT ... but it was the developer, he diappeared ... I think it was on his TODO list, because the README file and other files are also not changed from NXT.

Did the dev disappear before releasing the source code? Is it impossible to change the port into a different one from the one NXT uses?

[lcharles123]

You mean 20 NAS? 

Yes, 20 NAS, I corrected my offering :-)

Code:

NAS-VBK9-5ZXA-CJQ8-GEWVU

Thanks!

Done, now you have your first 20 NAS, on transaction 15842066818581290243:

   Date   Type   Amount   Fee   Account   Confirmations
   20/02/2015 11:20:45   Ordinary payment      20   1   NAS-VBK9-5ZXA-CJQ8-GEWVU   15

ID not found, the blockchain are in Height  233247   2/20/2015 12:13:39 and transaction not in.

Is possible to this account are forging all blocks: NAS-5HZF-TPQ5-GSHF-7GV33 with 3M NAS and create a new chain and im in
Here not appear any NAS value passed far as i can see: height 233152 02/20/2015 09:30:16 GMT

He is dead. :/

[patapato]

Done, now you have your first 20 NAS, on transaction 15842066818581290243:

   Date   Type   Amount   Fee   Account   Confirmations
   20/02/2015 11:20:45   Ordinary payment      20   1   NAS-VBK9-5ZXA-CJQ8-GEWVU   15

ID not found, the blockchain are in Height  233247   2/20/2015 12:13:39 and transaction not in.

Is possible to this account are forging all blocks: NAS-5HZF-TPQ5-GSHF-7GV33 with 3M NAS and create a new chain and im in
Here not appear any NAS value passed far as i can see: height 233152 02/20/2015 09:30:16 GMT

He is dead. :/

With so few forgers (sometimes 0, sometimes 1, sometimes 2, ...) it is easy to have forks. My wallet was stopped tonight, I restarted it few hours ago. I can see on the block history that at about 11:18 UTC I started to forge, previously the address that you say was forging (I have more stake):

...
233219 20/02/2015 11:19:49 0 0 0 NAS-H5AW-7J9F-7VCY-DJ8NB 0 B 12937 %
233218 20/02/2015 11:19:33 0 0 0 NAS-H5AW-7J9F-7VCY-DJ8NB 0 B 25874 %
233217 20/02/2015 11:17:34 0 0 0 NAS-5HZF-TPQ5-GSHF-7GV33 0 B 13046 %
233216 20/02/2015 11:16:18 0 0 0 NAS-5HZF-TPQ5-GSHF-7GV33 0 B 10299 %
...

These are the transaction details from my wallet:

Code:

SenderPublicKey: c81c7a26f496ca23486ad5d3e55b7310812b887b35a3452f1f60ecbb6441675f 
Signature: fc48fa79b83b4adcbe274b585bf8d643fcfa5f20ccad8d3125e33b49464a5e08f78caeb952c8f628ee98d4a51ca2ea1f0b48dab723739135bd731560812f789b 
FeeNQT: 100000000 
Type: 0 
Confirmations: 53 
FullHash: 035d8a2dd653dadb5191acf206d57ae940329e248009e6882a67b4ce06aa88d5 
SignatureHash: 9519cb9c41e3592c6e5438502f289b560bc9a849ab2f4a968e1f0a9a75b30e4b 
SenderRS: NAS-H5AW-7J9F-7VCY-DJ8NB 
Subtype: 0 
AmountNQT: 2000000000 
Sender: 13029142609628990748 
RecipientRS: NAS-VBK9-5ZXA-CJQ8-GEWVU 
Recipient: 17109047578379265575 
Block: 320087056910960173 
BlockTimestamp: 28678874 
Deadline: 1440 
Timestamp: 28678845 
Height: 233222 

[patapato]

Sorry, in the previous post content, time is not UTC, it is GMT + 1

[lcharles123]

Done, now you have your first 20 NAS, on transaction 15842066818581290243:

   Date   Type   Amount   Fee   Account   Confirmations
   20/02/2015 11:20:45   Ordinary payment      20   1   NAS-VBK9-5ZXA-CJQ8-GEWVU   15

ID not found, the blockchain are in Height  233247   2/20/2015 12:13:39 and transaction not in.

Is possible to this account are forging all blocks: NAS-5HZF-TPQ5-GSHF-7GV33 with 3M NAS and create a new chain and im in
Here not appear any NAS value passed far as i can see: height 233152 02/20/2015 09:30:16 GMT

He is dead. :/

With so few forgers (sometimes 0, sometimes 1, sometimes 2, ...) it is easy to have forks. My wallet was stopped tonight, I restarted it few hours ago. I can see on the block history that at about 11:18 UTC I started to forge, previously the address that you say was forging (I have more stake):

...
233219 20/02/2015 11:19:49 0 0 0 NAS-H5AW-7J9F-7VCY-DJ8NB 0 B 12937 %
233218 20/02/2015 11:19:33 0 0 0 NAS-H5AW-7J9F-7VCY-DJ8NB 0 B 25874 %
233217 20/02/2015 11:17:34 0 0 0 NAS-5HZF-TPQ5-GSHF-7GV33 0 B 13046 %
233216 20/02/2015 11:16:18 0 0 0 NAS-5HZF-TPQ5-GSHF-7GV33 0 B 10299 %
...

These are the transaction details from my wallet:

Code:

SenderPublicKey: c81c7a26f496ca23486ad5d3e55b7310812b887b35a3452f1f60ecbb6441675f 
Signature: fc48fa79b83b4adcbe274b585bf8d643fcfa5f20ccad8d3125e33b49464a5e08f78caeb952c8f628ee98d4a51ca2ea1f0b48dab723739135bd731560812f789b 
FeeNQT: 100000000 
Type: 0 
Confirmations: 53 
FullHash: 035d8a2dd653dadb5191acf206d57ae940329e248009e6882a67b4ce06aa88d5 
SignatureHash: 9519cb9c41e3592c6e5438502f289b560bc9a849ab2f4a968e1f0a9a75b30e4b 
SenderRS: NAS-H5AW-7J9F-7VCY-DJ8NB 
Subtype: 0 
AmountNQT: 2000000000 
Sender: 13029142609628990748 
RecipientRS: NAS-VBK9-5ZXA-CJQ8-GEWVU 
Recipient: 17109047578379265575 
Block: 320087056910960173 
BlockTimestamp: 28678874 
Deadline: 1440 
Timestamp: 28678845 
Height: 233222 

The same Block appears like this for me:

Code:

PayloadLength:	209
TotalAmountNQT:	0
Generator:	5802728473452724205
BaseTarget:	28718327414
GeneratorRS:	NAS-5HZF-TPQ5-GSHF-7GV33
NextBlock:	8167957520048415331
NumberOfTransactions:	1
BlockSignature:	11a17e3a065467f92478f63967c115112fc797c1546f1f38a4c6819aa40fed0d42c6abb87ca93fbe6ffa1680a70625daa4f4020b5115b60454e93cc7f52eff1c
Version:	3
TotalFeeNQT:	100000000
PreviousBlock:	6302124221230908110
Height:	233222
Timestamp:	28679076

There is a transaction on it, but there is no volume transacted.

I would have to use the blockchain of its portfolio to leave the alternate current, but then I'll use your fork blockchain

The lack of open source is no problem, because I believe that it is a clone 1: 1 NXT, just pick up the original NXT and change the suply, initial addresses and P2P port for 7871.

[patapato]

Well, clearly we have at least 2 forks, and at least 2 forgers. It is not enough for a healthy coin.

I also think like you, that base code for web wallet is very close to the NXT code, NAS is essentially a NXT clone, as the pretended added features are just in the Windows client, WinNAS: BlockDice, Chatroom, BlockLottery, ...

Some features, like the ports used, can be changed in the 'nas-default.properties' file, and we can also change the name of directories and files to avoid references to NXT and substitute them by NAS. So we can easily do a new package of files, a new minor revision without changing code, just filenames and text content to make a consistent package.

So, if we get enough nodes to run the server, and we agree in one fork, the coin can revive. The fact that development is stopped is an advantage in order to trust the coin. The initial distribution is already done, and the ones who have more stake can donate few of them for bounties or promotion.

It is very interesting for me the idea of a cryptocurrency with frozen development (although, if it is really just a clone of NXT, further independent development could be done).

What do other people think?, are there more supporters for this idea?, contrary opinions?

[EvilDave]

xyzzyx has been looking into the possibility of rescuing NAS:
https://nxtforum.org/ora/nas-diaspora/

[limingz]

Well, clearly we have at least 2 forks, and at least 2 forgers. It is not enough for a healthy coin.

I also think like you, that base code for web wallet is very close to the NXT code, NAS is essentially a NXT clone, as the pretended added features are just in the Windows client, WinNAS: BlockDice, Chatroom, BlockLottery, ...

Some features, like the ports used, can be changed in the 'nas-default.properties' file, and we can also change the name of directories and files to avoid references to NXT and substitute them by NAS. So we can easily do a new package of files, a new minor revision without changing code, just filenames and text content to make a consistent package.

So, if we get enough nodes to run the server, and we agree in one fork, the coin can revive. The fact that development is stopped is an advantage in order to trust the coin. The initial distribution is already done, and the ones who have more stake can donate few of them for bounties or promotion.

It is very interesting for me the idea of a cryptocurrency with frozen development (although, if it is really just a clone of NXT, further independent development could be done).

What do other people think?, are there more supporters for this idea?, contrary opinions?

GREAT JOB!

I think we should let nas 1.3.2 revive first. Suggest you upload the nas.rar of nas directory include nxt_db for others to download and call for them to run servers. The first step is to make it alive.

[lcharles123]

Well, clearly we have at least 2 forks, and at least 2 forgers. It is not enough for a healthy coin.

I also think like you, that base code for web wallet is very close to the NXT code, NAS is essentially a NXT clone, as the pretended added features are just in the Windows client, WinNAS: BlockDice, Chatroom, BlockLottery, ...

Some features, like the ports used, can be changed in the 'nas-default.properties' file, and we can also change the name of directories and files to avoid references to NXT and substitute them by NAS. So we can easily do a new package of files, a new minor revision without changing code, just filenames and text content to make a consistent package.

So, if we get enough nodes to run the server, and we agree in one fork, the coin can revive. The fact that development is stopped is an advantage in order to trust the coin. The initial distribution is already done, and the ones who have more stake can donate few of them for bounties or promotion.

It is very interesting for me the idea of a cryptocurrency with frozen development (although, if it is really just a clone of NXT, further independent development could be done).

What do other people think?, are there more supporters for this idea?, contrary opinions?

GREAT JOB!

I think we should let nas 1.3.2 revive first. Suggest you upload the nas.rar of nas directory include nxt_db for others to download and call for them to run servers. The first step is to make it alive.

But she was fully distributed?

Here in this topic is written that some accounts has almost all the coins, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=570366.0  you must ask the NAS whaleholders to make a transparent fund for bounties and giveaways.

It would be nice to see the features promised for that currency working.

[boomboom]

Cool. NAS *might* live on

It does seem obvious that NAS whales need to be involved if this is serious.

[patapato]

I looked at the history of the number 1 account on the ranking cited by lcharles1232:

But she was fully distributed?

Here in this topic is written that some accounts has almost all the coins, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=570366.0  you must ask the NAS whaleholders to make a transparent fund for bounties and giveaways.

It would be nice to see the features promised for that currency working.

I found this other address in his first transaction, it has a negative balance of 10 bn coins:

Account NAS-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ Info
The account has a balance of -9'999'999'999 NAS

Can anybody explain it?