Will all the world hold China responsible for corona-v

[af_newbie]

Would you release the virus in the same location as the lab?  Your (crackpot) theory makes no sense.

Sure it does. Plausible deniability. "It leaked out by accident. Don't attack us please, it was a mistake we promise." You know what is even better than crackpot theories? Letting everyone else do your thinking for you and waiting for permission to think.

You are the kind of guy who would see three seedy looking guys in a dark alley, and go down it anyway because there is no evidence they are going to rob and murder you. You are little more than a domesticated animal in human form waiting to have your throat slit and your blood drained before butchering.

You attack me because you are a coward unwilling to look at the horrors right in front of your eyes. Anyone who doesn't have their head firmly lodged up their ass just like you, you perceive as a threat because any exposure to free thought pokes holes in your carefully cultivated willful escapist ignorance. All of the impotent lashing out in the world is not going to brow beat me into being a mindless meat sack like you, so save it.

I did not attack you.  I criticized your idea. I think your 'theory' does not make sense.  

If this virus was made in the military lab, the military would release it in the NY subway, not in the local wild game market.
Nobody would know that the Chinese released it, the Jihadists would be blamed.  Some Muslim Jihadists would take responsibility.

Did the Chinese government take responsibility for 'this leakage'? No.  

[TimeTeller]

I wonder if China got to know about it only in December as by the time the news came out, the infected people must have already left the country and so how did other countries not get to know about this Coronavirus and spread the news before that?

Leakages say that the government wanted to cover this situation.
Remember the Wuhan doctor who died, a whistleblower but they were being suppressed.
If only their government acted appropriately, the effect might not be this huge.
I don't think Chinese will hold responsible with this situation.
As early as now, some of their officials are blaming the US Army to be the real cause of this virus.

[Subbir]

People are just losing their lives now but no vaccine has been made to cure it i feel China is liable for the Coron-V. I saw within the last news that the virus originated with China's hand. And spread everywhere the planet. they need kept it a secret and haven't yet discovered the precise drug of China and therefore the virus China is liable for all of this, spreading the virus to wildlife.

[Sadlife]

It's still a mystery till now where exactly did the virus spread some news in social media says it came from a woman eating a bat and some say the origin was with a man who came from US that has a pneumonia like disease. But the fact that china's hygiene including wet markets are very horrible, some chinese in our country goes for a number 2 in public places.
So i think the chinese government should re-educate their citizens in terms of hygiene.

[Cactipsi]

I'm sure that China can't be held accountable for coronavirus pandemic. Such kind of polemic may lead to terrorism. It's more important to do all possible to stop the pandemic now. Blaming won't help here.

[CryptoYar]

I don't think so, but it is true that it has started from there. Now it would not be right to accuse China in this

[BADecker]

When it's over, if there is any freedom left in the world, the US Government is responsible. Why? So far, all the proof that you have seen is hearsay. The whole CV thing is a hearsay fear thing.

In China, there is so much poison be sprayed to kill rodents and bats and cockroaches, that nobody can tell for sure if it is the poison that is killing people or something else.

The REAL killing will begin when average people realize that CV isn't a problem. The killing will be done by the military and police who shoot people who are breaking the ineffective lockdowns.

And I'm not talking  about China lockdowns and police killings. I'm talking about the so-called free world killings that will start to happen, if they haven't started already.

You can't believe the news that comes out of China. They don't have freedom of speech over there. It's all government produced propaganda.

[coolcoinz]

I'm sure that China can't be held accountable for coronavirus pandemic. Such kind of polemic may lead to terrorism. It's more important to do all possible to stop the pandemic now. Blaming won't help here.

Don't be so sure. They should be held responsible.
The virus has traces of SARS that has not been seen for years and that also originated in China. Do you really believe that after dealing with SARS epidemic they simply left it at that and kept living their lives? They were conducting extensive research at all fronts to make use of all possible applications, and those include biological warfare. Covid-19 is a mutated version of SARS, an enhanced version. For this reason SARS was contained in Asia and Covid hit the whole world. Probably the only weakness of this virus is hot and dry air that kills it fast and slows the spread.

[GazetaBitcoin]

A Chinese doctor (if I recall correctly it was the one who first announced about the coronavirus, which was arrested afterwards and died soon after) said that the virus started from China, but it may have foreign origins.

A few days ago, on March 13th, the Chinese newspaper South China Morning Post wrote that actually, the first infected was found on November 17th, 2019. The authorities tried to cover up everything until they couldn't anymore, in December. On December 31st there were already 266 infected people.

Now let's remember also that between 18-27 October 2019, in Wuhan took place the Military World Games. Some soldiers couldn't participate, accusing "a strange pneumonia", as an US congressman said at that time, his words being quoted now by the Chinese newspaper.

Now having all this information: could it be that the virus was planted there by the sick US soldiers which were sent to Wuhan for the Military World Games?

[gerica0613]

Now having all this information: could it be that the virus was planted there by the sick US soldiers which were sent to Wuhan for the Military World Games?

This is quite a peculiar point. I mean, I's quite believable it was intentionally brought to China

[tvbcof]

Now having all this information: could it be that the virus was planted there by the sick US soldiers which were sent to Wuhan for the Military World Games?

This is quite a peculiar point. I mean, I's quite believable it was intentionally brought to China

I personally find it quite believable because of the behavior patterns of Trump and his team.

Whether intentional or not, more and more circumstantial evidence, and more and more hard science is stacking up indicating that the first cases occurred in the United States.

From the Trump side all we have is 'because we say so' type assertions that 'China is to blame' with no evidence provided.  They seem to be relying almost exclusively on a sense of patriotism where in order to be a 'red-blooded American' one has to believe with conviction anything uttered by an American official.

[Twinkledoe]

A Chinese doctor (if I recall correctly it was the one who first announced about the coronavirus, which was arrested afterwards and died soon after) said that the virus started from China, but it may have foreign origins.

A few days ago, on March 13th, the Chinese newspaper South China Morning Post wrote that actually, the first infected was found on November 17th, 2019. The authorities tried to cover up everything until they couldn't anymore, in December. On December 31st there were already 266 infected people.

Now let's remember also that between 18-27 October 2019, in Wuhan took place the Military World Games. Some soldiers couldn't participate, accusing "a strange pneumonia", as an US congressman said at that time, his words being quoted now by the Chinese newspaper.

Now having all this information: could it be that the virus was planted there by the sick US soldiers which were sent to Wuhan for the Military World Games?

I considered this still to be in the conspiracy theory category. If it was intentionally planted by the US soldiers, US should have the vaccine by now and not relying from other pharma companies to produce one. If only Chinese have been more open regarding the investigations before it spreads globally, maybe they have already identified the real source of it. Now that the whistleblower died and many others, how can they make a thorough investigation for what had happened?

[tvbcof]

One version of a timeline (with links):  https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/03/16/coronavirus-the-plot-thickens-with-timeline-review/

Here's a part of it:

May, 2018: The President Fires the entire US Pandemic Response Team and does not replace it.

April, 2019: An outbreak of severe vaping-associated lung illness is exclusively confined to the United States, despite the fact that the majority of vapers live outside the US.

July 3, 2019: The CDC halts research at Fort Detrick, citing “national security reasons” for not releasing information about its decision.

Jul 14, 2019: Chinese researcher escorted from infectious disease lab amid RCMP investigation. Public Health Agency of Canada describes it as a possible ‘policy breach,’ no risk to Canadian public. The first Chinese to discover or warn about the Covid-19 outbreak?

August, 2019: First Vaping Death Reported by Health Officials “Amid the lack of information, investigators scrambled to find shared links to the respiratory problems. Officials said earlier this week that many patients, most of whom were adolescents or young adults, had described difficulty breathing, chest pain, vomiting and fatigue,” the precise symptoms of Covid-19 infection.

October 27, 2019  At a peak of international tension and the ‘flu season in the northern hemisphere, on the eve of China’s biggest travel season, 300 American military servicemen visit Wuhan for the International Military Games.

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Edit:  Here's a link to Romanoff's latest article:

  https://www.globalresearch.ca/covid-19-all-truth-three-stages/5706329


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I'll again present the hypothesis I put forward at the start of this thing probably several months ago now:

 - Third country attacks, or using their control over U.S. government apparatus makes uses the U.S. to attack China.  Also leaves a wide trail of bread-crumbs leading back to the U.S..  (Bolton's departure is still shrouded in mystery by the way.)

 - China counter-attacks the U.S. in kind.

 - Both the U.S. and China are severely weakened or perhaps destroyed in the conflict.  Rest of 'the nations' suffer significant collateral damage.

 - Third country steps in to fill the vacuum.

[coins4commies]

The world should be thanking China for slowing the spread and giving an early model for how to effectively slow the spread.   The western media should be apologizing for smearing the Chinese government for taking immediate action that saved millions of lives. 

[pixie85]

The world should be thanking China for slowing the spread and giving an early model for how to effectively slow the spread.   The western media should be apologizing for smearing the Chinese government for taking immediate action that saved millions of lives. 

Next time someone throws a molotov through your window and then comes in and helps you and your family get outside before you all burn to death, don't forget to thank him.

The Chinese government should first explain from which lab did this virus escape and why they were experimenting with SARS.

Were they trying to make a vaccine? Was this a containment breach? There's no denying that it came from their Wuhan province which is situated deep in the mainland.

[Saltius]

The world should be thanking China for slowing the spread and giving an early model for how to effectively slow the spread.   The western media should be apologizing for smearing the Chinese government for taking immediate action that saved millions of lives.  

The local govt of Hubei should be blamed for suppressing the info making severe consequeces. How could I thank these mfkers in the first place?

However in the other hand,I don't think that would make a valid justification for the incapability of western govt. No preparation was made by them. They simply wasted nearly two months time.

Besides, your pic only shows part truth.
Situations varied even in the same city of Wuhan. Some residents there got fair priced provision like what is said in the pic, but some others in Wuhan got food for extreme high prices. Because several local service providers (often low rank commie officials) made the lock down a good oportunity to make money by charging ridiculous transport fees.

[bits4books]

Did the world hold the USSR responsible for Chernobyl?
The problem is no longer the virus itself, but the fact that it was hidden at an early stage. No one knows what is happening inside China, they are too closed and do not want to tell anyone anything.
We can't even say for sure whether 1.4 billion people actually live in China - because this figure is too high if you count all the losses for the 20th century, including the "cultural revolution" and other reformations. China is definitely to blame for the situation that we see - but the root cause is its total closeness in matters of information about the population, the REAL life of people and other things.
Just remember the Uighurs and the rumors that turned out to be true about them

[Subbir]

Now having all this information: could it be that the virus was planted there by the sick US soldiers which were sent to Wuhan for the Military World Games?

This is quite a peculiar point. I mean, I's quite believable it was intentionally brought to China

I accept as true with you it's really strange because everyone knows that China is liable for this virus. But nobody can say anything. China itself couldn't think that its impact was so high and that they themselves were greatly affected.

[squatz1]

Did the world hold the USSR responsible for Chernobyl?
The problem is no longer the virus itself, but the fact that it was hidden at an early stage. No one knows what is happening inside China, they are too closed and do not want to tell anyone anything.
We can't even say for sure whether 1.4 billion people actually live in China - because this figure is too high if you count all the losses for the 20th century, including the "cultural revolution" and other reformations. China is definitely to blame for the situation that we see - but the root cause is its total closeness in matters of information about the population, the REAL life of people and other things.
Just remember the Uighurs and the rumors that turned out to be true about them

+1 to this. China couldn't have known that the virus was going to turn out this way, but they SHOULD'VE let the public know that they were having an outbreak of some kind earlier. Not saying that would've changed anything, but it COULD have changed things.

I know that there have been reports and estimates regarding what could've been different if China had reported this earlier and hadn't just tried to cover it up. (Article Link - https://www.axios.com/timeline-the-early-days-of-chinas-coronavirus-outbreak-and-cover-up-ee65211a-afb6-4641-97b8-353718a5faab.html)

As an aside to this, China is currently reporting 0 new infections, which I think is bullshit. (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/as-china-virus-cases-near-zero-experts-warn-of-second-wave)

[bits4books]

As an aside to this, China is currently reporting 0 new infections, which I think is bullshit. (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/as-china-virus-cases-near-zero-experts-warn-of-second-wave)

LOL this is all bullshit
I absolutely do not trust China in terms of statistics about the situation - I am sure that things are much worse there
Thank you to the Party for a happy start of 2020!