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March 25, 2020, 12:14:15 PM
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Day trading activity is unmatched by gambling. In a day of trading you have the opportunity to win and lose according to the strategy used. Gambling allows you to win randomly. Only you choose the best activity that suits you and improve your skills and above all act with caution.

Day Trading and gambling give you two choices, obviously that is winning and losing and that do not depend on the strategy used since the price chart will be the one telling the price changes and not your strategy. As gambling can ruin your balance, day trading is better since you will jsut lost some profit based on the price changes but not all of it.
Day trading is a better option than gambling in many ways and sensible people prefer risking their money in day trading than on gambling all the time. Gambling shall be done off and on that too without a large amount of money. Day trading never makes you bankrupt but this can easily happen in the case of former.
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March 25, 2020, 03:54:24 PM
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We know that day trading or short time trading is like playing with wild fire, not may can handle it. That's y most player's end up in loss and very few are successful day traders.
Is that hold true for gambling also?
  There are posts here that gambling is addiction and how to get rid of.
Are there gamblers here who are in profit overall?
Gambling and day trading is both risky because if you don't have a good strategy and you can't control your emotion in both trading and gambling, you will definitely lose. But the difference is it is much better to trade than to gamble because when you have a great skill in trading it is enough for you to provide all of your necessities.



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March 25, 2020, 04:09:25 PM
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Day trading is a better option than gambling in many ways and sensible people prefer risking their money in day trading than on gambling all the time. Gambling shall be done off and on that too without a large amount of money. Day trading never makes you bankrupt but this can easily happen in the case of former.
I wonder where you heard that because it is obviously not true, if you take a look at the forum you will see there are many more stories about people losing all their money while they are day trading than those that lose all their money gambling, it is true day trading can be way more profitable than most forms of gambling but with the way this market moves and its volatility the day traders that can make money out of this market are probably below 1% while the rest lose some or all of their money.

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March 25, 2020, 04:35:15 PM
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Yes gambling is like a day trading especially if you are playing or gambling daily in which you are able to earn money daily through the gambling but it would be a problem if you are losing just like in trading it is a big problem. Trading and gambling is almost the same because it is more likely that you are betting also your money in trading in which the profit that you may get after the trading same as the gambling.

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March 25, 2020, 05:14:00 PM
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We know that day trading or short time trading is like playing with wild fire, not may can handle it. That's y most player's end up in loss and very few are successful day traders.
Is that hold true for gambling also?
  There are posts here that gambling is addiction and how to get rid of.
Are there gamblers here who are in profit overall?
Day trading is not entirely like gambling.

Gambling results depends on probability of the game you are betting.

Most players win lot of money but they never realize that they are losing the same amount of money on multiple losing bets.
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March 25, 2020, 06:53:11 PM
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Not quite but there are some similarities.
I would say that if you gamble every day you are exposed to risk on a daily basis and you are present every day.
However, day trading depends primarily on.your skills, knowledge and experience and gambling stil depends great deal on luck.
To me this is also the main difference between gambling and trading and generaly I wouldn't compare these two disciplines.

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March 25, 2020, 08:26:19 PM
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How trading can be equated with gambling, it is very different in my opinion.
Gambling once we bet and our predictions are wrong, of course the capital runs out.
different from trading every time we make an entry buy and then our prediction is wrong, then we still have coins, only estimates are decreased.
even in trading we can still get profits by utilizing its price fluctuations.  Gambling is clearly not possible because there is also based on one's luck, if we bet but not in luck yes all of his capital can be used up.
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March 25, 2020, 09:01:06 PM
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I only think if gambling and trading are something different, trading is a profession while gambling is not a profession and it is not appropriate if gambling is used as a profession because gambling is a game of luck, no matter how much your experience in gambling is still not going to guarantee you to get profits every day, is different from trading because in trading at least when you have good skills then of course it's like a guarantee for you to gain profit every time you trade.

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March 25, 2020, 09:51:47 PM
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Correct, gambling is about prediction and mostly luck-based. Our funds and profits will depend on them. Even, we don't need certain skills to gamble. While trading isn't about luck, it is skill-based. Although sometimes one of the factors of success in trading is luck, it isn't the main factor which has the most important role.

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I think the same as you. Gambling isn't a proper profession, we cannot rely on the luck for our regular income, it is too risky. It is different than trading, for the traders who have good knowledge and skills, they can hope for regular income from trading. It's possible if you know how to trade well.   

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March 26, 2020, 05:39:37 AM
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like pro traders or pro gambling players, they too must have suffered losses and will not always profit.
that is why gambling and trading are very rarely sought after to become the main occupation.
the risk is too great, so those who dare to take risks carry out this work.
Some pro poker player already earning million $ from their gameplay, for example.

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March 26, 2020, 06:12:40 AM
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like pro traders or pro gambling players, they too must have suffered losses and will not always profit.
that is why gambling and trading are very rarely sought after to become the main occupation.
the risk is too great, so those who dare to take risks carry out this work.
Some pro poker player already earning million $ from their gameplay, for example.

only jobs are not risky enough and can sustain you contious/stable profit but gambling and trading especially they are related to crypto are much more risky than those who arent related to crypto  .

actually the next from the job is that people look for trading or gambling  , many people living out of gambling but much more on trading because trading is more profitable and likely achievable than on gambling  .

big risk is also equals to great rewards , both applicable on trading and gambling   .
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March 26, 2020, 06:24:05 AM
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gambling and trading are clearly very different, gambling is not always able to provide benefits, on the contrary, the longer we bet, the greater the chance of being able to deal with losses. different from trading, the longer we trade the possibility that in the end we can get used to facing fluctuations in market prices and more can use the best time possible to always make a profit so that more can minimize losses

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March 26, 2020, 07:42:42 AM
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Day trading activity is unmatched by gambling. In a day of trading you have the opportunity to win and lose according to the strategy used. Gambling allows you to win randomly. Only you choose the best activity that suits you and improve your skills and above all act with caution.

Day Trading and gambling give you two choices, obviously that is winning and losing and that do not depend on the strategy used since the price chart will be the one telling the price changes and not your strategy. As gambling can ruin your balance, day trading is better since you will jsut lost some profit based on the price changes but not all of it.
Day trading is a better option than gambling in many ways and sensible people prefer risking their money in day trading than on gambling all the time. Gambling shall be done off and on that too without a large amount of money. Day trading never makes you bankrupt but this can easily happen in the case of former.

Ofcourse. Crypto Trading is less risky type of betting... less risky than many/most types of bettings or prediction markets. I guess other betting types (the safe/good ones especially) could even consider bit by bit winnings/losses, like in crypto trading instead of the normal "win all/loss all" your fund kind of thing... guess they do it already?
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March 26, 2020, 08:08:22 AM
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They are both risky, I must admit that, but, the profits in day trading could be more promising and reassuring than in gambling. On the other side, if you're looking for both fun and danger, then gambling is the best choice for you, but if you're after in profits alone and you take it very seriously, then day trading is the best fit for you.

Just like what everyone said here, it depends on everyone's life perspective on what we are after.
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March 26, 2020, 09:13:59 AM
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gambling and trading are clearly very different, gambling is not always able to provide benefits, on the contrary, the longer we bet, the greater the chance of being able to deal with losses.

what do you mean with this? If I am not mistaken, you are pertaining to experiences, so the longer we play in gambling, we getting the game clearly that we can deal with our losses. If that is what you mean, I for me, the longer we play, means there is a huge chance of winning from the particular gambling site or game that we are playing. Because basically, who want's to play with games that the chances of losing is higher that winning right? So we should be aware of our losses, compare and contrast it to our wins, and take a look if the games is still fair.

different from trading, the longer we trade the possibility that in the end we can get used to facing fluctuations in market prices and more can use the best time possible to always make a profit so that more can minimize losses

In here, the concept is still experience, I am thinking if you are pertaining to the long term hodling in saying "the longer we trade" but I think experience in trading does really help. For me, long term hodling is quite better and it differs from person's time in trading. If you have more time, then do a scalping or day trade, but if you are busy in some other areas, then it's better to hodl in long term but make sure you have invested enough funds.
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Given that no one (we are not talking about market makers) can manage randomness, intraday trading is very similar to gambling. Negative mathematical expectation is what brings these two activities together. For a while you may be in profit but at a distance you will be in the red. The longer the distance, the more true this statement.

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Ofcourse. Crypto Trading is less risky type of betting... less risky than many/most types of bettings or prediction markets. I guess other betting types (the safe/good ones especially) could even consider bit by bit winnings/losses, like in crypto trading instead of the normal "win all/loss all" your fund kind of thing... guess they do it already?
But you can set your winning chance in dice, for example, 98% chance, 1% payout. Thus, the "profit" from one bet would be similar to profit from one transaction (if the price is rising). You can also divide your bet in a smaller batch, so if you lose one, you still have plenty.

Well, gambling and day trading is a different game, but similar in nature.

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March 26, 2020, 03:15:03 PM
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We know that day trading or short time trading is like playing with wild fire, not may can handle it. That's y most player's end up in loss and very few are successful day traders.
Is that hold true for gambling also?
  There are posts here that gambling is addiction and how to get rid of.
Are there gamblers here who are in profit overall?

Gambling and day trading are both risky. Gambling is a form of entertainment but can make us earn money and lose at the same time. Gambling does not need skills, it needs luck. But in day trading if we have the skills we can surely earn money. Of course it is not that easy to have that skill.

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The existence of risk is the "thing" that relates both trading and gambling to one another. But it seem to me that the similarity is more sided with gambling more than trading. Trading is like gambling because there is no assurance of profit because the market value is volatile and it would be hard to find a good trade, especially at this moment that the market value of cryptos are low, and no one knows when will uprise occur as well as which coin would go along with the uptrend. Gambling on the other hand is a bit like trading especially on strategical gambling games such as card game, a player would think of the best method in order to come up with the win. But as what I have said, it is risk which connects both gambling and trading to each other forming similarities.

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March 28, 2020, 09:38:50 AM
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For me both are different because in trading you analyse both technical and fundaments and then accordingly can place the trades on but in gambling you do not have such options as many would be your luck-based games. Also trading requires skills which not everyone can have it just like skills required in card games. Gambling would not be approved in all countries, but trading is legal in all countries then be it stocks, commodities etch.

Honestly, no.

Others might see gambling as luck-based but overall there's a catch on how to overcome that. Same with day-trading or basically, any types of trades, the strategy must always be considered and not just you will bet then that's it. Not relying purely on luck but to increase our winning chance rate in every bet. ~

But do you still agree that it's impossible to increase your winning chance in the luck-based games, such as dice, roulette, minesweeper, plinko and slots? I think, the only thing you can do about the aforementioned games is you can limit your gambling balance in order to not lose too much in the case of bad luck, but there is no way of increasing your winning chance in those games.

Imo, day trading is somewhat similar to poker and sports betting, where luck still plays a big role, but not everything depends on it.

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