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April 02, 2020, 04:05:41 PM |
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Yes, gambling is almost likely to day trading because it is only few people that are succeed day trading because it was very risky to do that and it need a deep knowledge onto it and needs a lot of effort to fully understand the day trading. Gambling and day trading are both risky because it is not 100% sure that you win it.
I don't think it's the right approach. In day trading, the risk is low if it is continuously followed by the agenda, developments and graphs. Especially as online time increases, the risk decreases. But gambling is largely dependent on luck. The risk is therefore slightly higher. In day-trading, gain-loss ratios can be limited within a certain framework by using tools such as stop loss, stop buy and OCO. But in gambling, the psychological effect is very important. A momentary error can lead to huge losses. There are some key differences between day trading and gambling however I do not agree when you say that day trading is a low risk activity, by far the most difficult and risky way to trade is day trading, you need to watch the markets all the time and you need to have a way to deal with the extreme changes that happen in the market in a matter of minutes and that is not something your average trader can do as it requires to have a very clear idea of what you are doing and why and it also requires the ability to apply that knowledge in the blink of an eye. I agree and I already said same thing in my post. the risk is low if it is continuously followed by the agenda, developments and graphs So I think we are talking same think with different words.
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April 02, 2020, 04:22:21 PM |
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Yes, gambling is almost likely to day trading because it is only few people that are succeed day trading because it was very risky to do that and it need a deep knowledge onto it and needs a lot of effort to fully understand the day trading. Gambling and day trading are both risky because it is not 100% sure that you win it.
Both gambling and trading is one of the risky way to earn bitcoin because in every mistake you do you can lose money. There is no guaranteed that you earn in both ways but risk is less in trading and more danger to the gambling they have similarity but they have differences also. In everything there is no assurance even not gambling or trading!. there are 2 big things that distinguish the two. daily trading - small risk of loss (no loss of 100% capital) - possibility of profit (small amount) gambling - risk of losing a large amount (100% capital is used up) - the possibility of getting a large amount of profit (if you are lucky to reach 10 times)
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Gambling is NOTHING like day trading. As an investment advisor by trade, I am quite versed on the topic. The vast majority of people should first off not be day trading. Trading takes a lot of time, skill and research to be able to know how to do so correctly. I'd say 98% of investors should not be day trading. Day trading involves actual companies and not just a game of mostly luck. Stocks are backed by businesses and often when trading it's not an all or nothing scenario as is most often the case with gambling. Gambling often takes no skill at all or even any need for research. Both are something to consider heavily before doing so, making sure that you're willing to lose it all in both cases is a big part of it. Some similarities do exist, but for the most part they're very different.
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April 02, 2020, 04:57:49 PM |
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Please stop comparing gambling with trading. Gambling with cryptocurrencies and trading are not the same at all. Gambling is all about luck. If you get luck, you win. If you are unlucky you lose everything. There is nothing you have to "think" about since the outcome of your results are always random. Logic does not work/change your outcome when gambling. But trading does depend on logic. You have to think a lot before you make your next move. The outcomes are not random and you have more control over your investment when compared to gambling.
They are basically thesame thing. Crypto traders are betting on something (price) just as other prediction markets. Sport bettors for example are betting on scores and other things. Some cryptocurrency trading are very risky, eg Binary option, leverage trading, etc. This type of trading kind of qualify as gambling depending on how much you risk.
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April 02, 2020, 05:58:19 PM |
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Gambling is nothing like day trading, except in that they both require risk management and budgeting.
Although it is true that a lot of gamblers eventually go on to become traders, I would say that very few traders go on to become gamblers—at least no professionally. Gambling is all about managing your exposure to risk and seizing the right opportunities, gambling is completely about luck, unless it's sports betting or poker.
With gambling you're always up against the odds, and although the same is true for trading, you can beat the odds with knowledge. No matter how much you know about slots, you can never overcome the 10-15% house edge of w.e. using pure knowledge.
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April 02, 2020, 06:14:40 PM |
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daily gambling wouldn't suit for me i have tried for some days to gamble daily but lost more then is got , guess i need more experience , i have some friends who gamble often and make some money , i think it depends on which we understand more and know to make money in a better way , but both of them needs lot of knowledge
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April 02, 2020, 06:21:27 PM |
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Yes, gambling is almost likely to day trading because it is only few people that are succeed day trading because it was very risky to do that and it need a deep knowledge onto it and needs a lot of effort to fully understand the day trading. Gambling and day trading are both risky because it is not 100% sure that you win it.
Both gambling and trading is one of the risky way to earn bitcoin because in every mistake you do you can lose money. There is no guaranteed that you earn in both ways but risk is less in trading and more danger to the gambling they have similarity but they have differences also. In everything there is no assurance even not gambling or trading!. there are 2 big things that distinguish the two. daily trading - small risk of loss (no loss of 100% capital) - possibility of profit (small amount) gambling - risk of losing a large amount (100% capital is used up) - the possibility of getting a large amount of profit (if you are lucky to reach 10 times) It's not totally true. If you want to earn money in day trading, you need to use leverages. And when you use leverage (longs or shorts) you can win as much as in gambling but you can also lose all your funds.
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April 02, 2020, 06:38:12 PM |
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In my opinion gambling and day trading are not the same, because day trading is much less risky than gambling. If we play gambling winning percentage is around 50%, but the fact is if we play gambling more experience defeat. While day trading percentage gets a profit of around 80%, if we have the ability to read market prices. So, the conclusion gambling cannot be used as a source of income, while day trading can be used as a source of income. And according to data i read in the article the number of people who are successful in day trading more than people who are successful in gambling.
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April 02, 2020, 10:24:08 PM |
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daily gambling wouldn't suit for me i have tried for some days to gamble daily but lost more then is got , guess i need more experience , i have some friends who gamble often and make some money , i think it depends on which we understand more and know to make money in a better way , but both of them needs lot of knowledge
The experienced day trader can make the same percentage gain over the weeks but this is no true for the gambler. The risk management is the basement of gambling and trading, but there is no luck factor in trading for the long term-swing traders.
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April 02, 2020, 11:28:22 PM Last edit: April 03, 2020, 12:01:14 AM by pixie85 |
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This topic has been discussed on multiple occasions before and in short it goes like this:
Trading is not gambling because a trader is never in an all or nothing situation. When you gamble and place a bet you don't get back anything when you lose. You put in 100 USD into a pile and you either get it all or lose your 100.
A trader or an investor invests 100 and can lose a part of it and withdraw if things keep going bad. Depending on his moves he can lose $10 or $20 but never all of it.
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April 03, 2020, 05:44:24 AM |
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Not the same at all.
Even if you suffer a loss in trading (whatever the period), at least the loss still holds value. Wherever the market chart takes you, you still hold your money and there will be hope that the value will return someday even give you a profit (depending on the currency you hold).
This will not be found in gambling. Your prediction is correct, your money multiplies, if wrong your money is lost. "Trading for profit, gambling for luck."
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April 03, 2020, 06:46:35 AM |
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Gambling is NOTHING like day trading. As an investment advisor by trade, I am quite versed on the topic. The vast majority of people should first off not be day trading. Trading takes a lot of time, skill and research to be able to know how to do so correctly. I'd say 98% of investors should not be day trading. Day trading involves actual companies and not just a game of mostly luck. Stocks are backed by businesses and often when trading it's not an all or nothing scenario as is most often the case with gambling. Gambling often takes no skill at all or even any need for research. Both are something to consider heavily before doing so, making sure that you're willing to lose it all in both cases is a big part of it. Some similarities do exist, but for the most part they're very different.
Yes they are different. In many ways, in trading you may earn in a day trading only if you know how to scalp and also if you are having a good hands, but if not then you need to wait, while in gambling you may lost everything in just one bet so you need to think every move you are doing.
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April 03, 2020, 07:56:46 AM |
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"Trading for profit, gambling for luck."
I could not agree with this, this kind of belief is only for those who does not really know the potential on how to make money in gambling. Gambling for majority maybe a game of luck, but we can't deny that there are people who make money in gambling because of their skills, example are the poker players and the sports bettors, I am talking of the successful ones.
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April 03, 2020, 08:29:39 AM |
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"Trading for profit, gambling for luck."
I could not agree with this, this kind of belief is only for those who does not really know the potential on how to make money in gambling. Gambling for majority maybe a game of luck, but we can't deny that there are people who make money in gambling because of their skills, example are the poker players and the sports bettors, I am talking of the successful ones. That's quite true, gambling doesn't totally depends on luck but new lucky has major contributions to winning bets. We have professional that have perfected their skilled to the exact they can gamble repeatedly without losing on specific days although that doesn't mean they don't lose as somedays the luck factor meant not be on their side. Gambling and trading are two different things that can only be related together when a trader gambles on his trader. That's to say, they go into a market without having any prior knowledge of the market and pick trade based on how lucky they feel. This kind of traders don't last long in the industry as they easily quit when they're no longer getting lucky.
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April 03, 2020, 11:51:46 AM |
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Maybe some will disagree on me but for me, gambling and day trading have some connections . How? For me, I can say that day trading is considered gambling if the trader doesn't know what he is doing. He just throws his money and bought a coin without proper knowledge on trading whatsoever. He just felt that he need to buy that coin and he bought it without knowing that its at the highest price. In gambling, you just throw your money there and hoping that it will win (with a bit of strategy maybe). Same goes in day trading, you are just throwing away your money hoping that the coin you bought will increase its price. This just applies for those traders who doesn't have any knowledge on trading. If you are an amateur or a professional trader then that is a different story already .
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April 03, 2020, 01:50:40 PM |
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In my opinion gambling and day trading are not the same, because day trading is much less risky than gambling. If we play gambling winning percentage is around 50%, but the fact is if we play gambling more experience defeat. While day trading percentage gets a profit of around 80%, if we have the ability to read market prices. So, the conclusion gambling cannot be used as a source of income, while day trading can be used as a source of income. And according to data i read in the article the number of people who are successful in day trading more than people who are successful in gambling.
You have some exact points and some need editing, day trading or trading in general, when compared directly to gambling, the safety is actually higher when we can decide the winning or losing rate based on the observation and evaluation in the market. While gambling has a nearly complete chance of losing, it cannot reach 50% as you say, casinos always create fake rates to cheat us, the analogy between gambling and trading is the bet to win but gambling is a business place to generate revenue for its owners, trading is a marketplace for traders to make money on their analytics.
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April 03, 2020, 02:14:50 PM |
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How? For me, I can say that day trading is considered gambling if the trader doesn't know what he is doing. He just throws his money and bought a coin without proper knowledge on trading whatsoever. He just felt that he need to buy that coin and he bought it without knowing that its at the highest price. Can I categorize such traders as traders who only rely on expectations from market conditions or should I say it as a trader who relies on speculation ? In gambling, you just throw your money there and hoping that it will win (with a bit of strategy maybe). Hope and luck Same goes in day trading, you are just throwing away your money hoping that the coin you bought will increase its price. Only hope
Trading involves speculation, predictions, analysis, and expectations while gambling only involves predictions, expectations, and luck. I think this is what distinguishes trade from gambling.
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April 03, 2020, 03:10:15 PM |
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In my opinion gambling and day trading are not the same, because day trading is much less risky than gambling. If we play gambling winning percentage is around 50%, but the fact is if we play gambling more experience defeat. While day trading percentage gets a profit of around 80%, if we have the ability to read market prices. So, the conclusion gambling cannot be used as a source of income, while day trading can be used as a source of income. And according to data i read in the article the number of people who are successful in day trading more than people who are successful in gambling.
You have some exact points and some need editing, day trading or trading in general, when compared directly to gambling, the safety is actually higher when we can decide the winning or losing rate based on the observation and evaluation in the market. While gambling has a nearly complete chance of losing, it cannot reach 50% as you say, casinos always create fake rates to cheat us, the analogy between gambling and trading is the bet to win but gambling is a business place to generate revenue for its owners, trading is a marketplace for traders to make money on their analytics. We have different perspective how can we earn more profit and some of us are trying to deal with the daily trading by that all you need is the knowledge about the market movement and also there is a chance of you will get a profit but we cannot tell how much on it because it is a single movement in the market there is a chance to increase or decrease your market income also in gambling it is good too because if you are skilled and got a lot of experience enough to play gamble games it is good because there is a higher probability to make more earnings because you are confident enough to make more profit both of them are a risk but it depends on you where you think you are confident to make more money.
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April 03, 2020, 04:33:32 PM |
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"Trading for profit, gambling for luck."
I could not agree with this, this kind of belief is only for those who does not really know the potential on how to make money in gambling. Gambling for majority maybe a game of luck, but we can't deny that there are people who make money in gambling because of their skills, example are the poker players and the sports bettors, I am talking of the successful ones. Yeah right, there are people out there who manage to win from this kinds of gambling, they are well organized and have the capabilities to manage every single information to use for their favors. This kind of wise gamblers are not so many those are not relying with their luck but with their skills sorting the right games and the right timing.
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April 03, 2020, 05:35:42 PM |
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"Trading for profit, gambling for luck."
I could not agree with this, this kind of belief is only for those who does not really know the potential on how to make money in gambling. Gambling for majority maybe a game of luck, but we can't deny that there are people who make money in gambling because of their skills, example are the poker players and the sports bettors, I am talking of the successful ones. There are many games that rely on luck. It depends on what kind of gambler you are - if you try to play card games that require skills then you should not agree to this statement. I believe that gambling is luck on specific games, not in all kind of games.
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