Loan Default - theyoungmillionaire u=1180530

[JollyGood]

I am glad you refer to him as a scammer. I think the consensus seems to be pointing heavily towards theyoungmillionaire being a scammer rather than being someone who through the course of either an unfortunate incident or other misfortune ended up not only defaulting on his loan repayments but also was unable to contact the lender (DireWolfM14) to apologise.

As for where he is right now, well it might be easy to answer if it were known how many alt-accounts he has here...

And, 😌 please guys stop flooding this thread with irrelevant replies, You're definitely not helping and so do I. Whatever comes into the plate, then that's that already.
Let this thread be in peace, until we find out where the shitty scammer is.

[Timelord2067]

Interestingly enough finaleshot2016 does not come here to this scam accusation to answer questions concerning their apparent merit & Default trust abuse with theyoungmillionaire, instead removes their trust of theyoungmillionaire (but being DT1 does not go so far as to distrust theyoungmillionaire as that would push him to DT2 (-11) )

Via https://bpip.org/r/dt1changes.aspx

[Golgoth]

edit: I have moved this post here.

@Timelord2067 please respond over there.

In a thread named "Timelord2067's Investigation" opened to freely attack him? Is it a joke?
The case is not about Timelord, it's about TYM and his filipino network.
Why are you trying to reverse the case? 

[Timelord2067]

In a thread named "Timelord2067's Investigation" opened to freely attack him? Is it a joke?
The case is not about Timelord2067, it's about TYM and his Filipino network.
Why are you trying to reverse the case? 

I don't normally give a running commentary on an investigation in progress, but my thanks to Golgolth for your words of encouragement and support.

I've managed to have a quick look this afternoon at the OP TX and there is independent evidence to confirm the wallet address that the funds were sent to was coin.ph Wallet [00000dd86b] as confirmed by @coinlocket$ amongst others

• Here
• Here
• Here
• Here
• Here

Both TX funds went into and straight back out of that wallet address with 155 transactions which would have suggested that one wallet address assigned per user was how they traded, but the next TX out https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/8ffe093e83cba2a84668a5df9fc8cb9afdabdee20b386d19ae62b667b5e38a0e was from four wallet addresses going to just two other wallet addresses, so although the one wallet address, one user is probably how the site operated, the operators were able to pool funds for withdrawals.

[stompix]

You need also to cooperate with coins.ph as well in order to find the person behind that transaction. It won`t be that easy since coins.ph values the privacy afaik and it needs valid proof (I know you had it too).

No service in any country in this world will ever give information about their clients without a court order and that only to the authorities.

Contacting coin.ph at this point is useless, they will simply tell you that since it's not one of their transactions that is disputed and it's a case of fraud between two users and to go file a complaint and they will only release the information to whatever branch of anti-fraud or cybercrime is in charge of that.

Unfortunately for DireWolfM14 probably the scammer knew that and made a bit of math in his head, scam as much as you can but not enough to make him bent of recovering the amount at all costs. Recovegin the money is possible only if DireWolfM14 files a complaint with his local law agency and waits for results, or if he delegates someone in Philipines to file a civil dispute case against TYM and hope the court would accept these proofs, and there might be some other bumps down this road.

Let this thread be in peace, until we find out where the shitty scammer is.

And at that point....what would be the next move?

[cabalism13]

And at that point....what would be the next move?

Report to NBI Cyber Crime Group, because here in the Philippines it is now prohibited. Scammers Online can now be imprisoned.

Besides Direwolf has enough evidence that he and TYM made a transaction

[stompix]

And at that point....what would be the next move?

Report to NBI Cyber Crime Group,

Exactly my point
This could be done even now with the info at hand, it's not like you can't add more proofs to your case later and contact them through the investigation.
But even if you find his home address and shoe size you can't do anything legally to get those funds back unless you contact the authorities.

So at this point, it's all about finding a method on getting a case against him, and people familiar with the laws in Philipines should enquire how can a foreigner press charges and how can he select a legal representative, also how costly that would be.

[Digitradez]

Someone not paying back a loan isn't a scam, its just a default on a loan. Imagine if all the people in the world with debt were considered scammers, just lol.

People are really just jumping to assumptions, you have no idea if this person had a serious medical issue.

[LoyceV]

Someone not paying back a loan isn't a scam, its just a default on a loan. Imagine if all the people in the world with debt were considered scammers, just lol.

Although disappearing without paying back is considered a scam on Bitcointalk, you make a good point if someone is considering to pursue this IRL.

you have no idea if this person had a serious medical issue.

That's unlikely considering this timeline:

In early January theyoungmillionaire contacted me via PM
~
theyoungmillionaire has not logged into the forum since January 6

From what I've seen in my years in crypto, disappearing with funds is much more likely than serious medical issues.

[DireWolfM14]

Someone not paying back a loan isn't a scam, its just a default on a loan.

Defaulting on a loan is in fact a scam.  People go to jail for that.  They lose their homes for that.  They suffer years of shitty credit score for that.  Know why?  Because it's an attempt to defraud others.  In other words, A SCAM.

Imagine if all the people in the world with debt were considered scammers, just lol.

You're the only moron here suggesting debt=scam.  Just lol.

People are really just jumping to assumptions, you have no idea if this person had a serious medical issue.

Do you?

[hd49728]

People are really just jumping to assumptions, you have no idea if this person had a serious medical issue.

Do you?

Such activities (password changed, password reset via email) won't happen as coincidences when one has a serious medical issue. If TYM's account was hacked on those days, he should kindly appear to announce about that but he did not. Did he take an advantage of a hack to make his loan default? No one knows but all in all assumptions, he is a scammer.

theyoungmillionaire

[barlo357]

This scum is fishing merits back when I was active here. Starting from fishing merits and leveled up to fishing trust scores then ask for loan. His social engineering skills is good and made the legit loaners here gave him a huge loan. I envy this guy before for having a big post to merit ratio, but I feel something really bad coming after he is being persistent on giving him merit and asks me to delete his message about him asking merits. I don't really wish the best for him, and it would be great if he loses it all during the time of pandemic.

[Timelord2067]

This scum is fishing merits back when I was active here. Starting from fishing merits and leveled up to fishing trust scores then ask for loan. His social engineering skills is good and made the legit loaners here gave him a huge loan. I envy this guy before for having a big post to merit ratio, but I feel something really bad coming after he is being persistent on giving him merit and asks me to delete his message about him asking merits. I don't really wish the best for him, and it would be great if he loses it all during the time of pandemic.

It's uncanny how close date-wise barlo375 and theyoungmillionaire's creation dates are:

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Date Registered: 	2017-10-02, 00:39:11 	theyoungmillionaire
Date Registered: 	2017-10-07, 13:11:18 	barlo357

Both are from the Philippines.


Last post in this thread before today:

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Posted on: 2020-07-08, 00:07:10
Posted by: hd49728 

Why post in a thread that's nearly three years cold?

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Last post in April:  2020-04-06, 14:35:05 by hd49728

barlo357 wakes up:

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5/15/2020 1:33:23 PM 	woke up  	barlo357

and bumps this very thread that had been inactive for more than two months:

that guy is secretly fishing for merit on the time that he is still a Member rank. too bad that i cleared our convo back then

i'm also secretly being bitter on his merit count and thought of one day he will make a shady action

i hope you already looking forward and moved on on what happened to you

barlo357 only merits was to barlo_blake

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Date Registered: 	2018-04-14, 11:43:00
Last Active: 	2018-08-02, 01:49:58

Two weeks after barlo_blake UID was created, theyoungmillionaire changed their password

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4/25/2018 8:43:59 PM 	password changed
6/6/2018 1:12:37 PM 	password changed
1/28/2019 8:27:54 AM 	password reset via email
4/18/2019 12:31:57 AM 	password changed

barlo_blake was short lived:

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Date Registered: 	2018-04-14, 11:43:00
Last Active: 	2018-08-02, 01:49:58

As was this "imposter" theyoungmillionaire007:

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Date Registered: 	2018-06-25, 23:54:46
Last Active: 	2018-09-12, 04:42:43

Not saying they are alts, but it's uncanny...

[shasan]

One of the merit fans of theyoungmillionaire is asu and asu also defaulted on a big loan. I am not telling they are alt but they might be alt. If theyoungmillionaire and/or would be an ethical user then the user could repay the initial amount base on the fiat of the loan money I think that could be accepted by the OP. These types of user default as they think they will be able to reach on higher rank from alt to they might have alt. I don't think any person will default on a loan if s/he has only a single account.

[barlo357]

This scum is fishing merits back when I was active here. Starting from fishing merits and leveled up to fishing trust scores then ask for loan. His social engineering skills is good and made the legit loaners here gave him a huge loan. I envy this guy before for having a big post to merit ratio, but I feel something really bad coming after he is being persistent on giving him merit and asks me to delete his message about him asking merits. I don't really wish the best for him, and it would be great if he loses it all during the time of pandemic.

It's uncanny how close date-wise barlo375 and theyoungmillionaire's creation dates are:

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Date Registered: 	2017-10-02, 00:39:11 	theyoungmillionaire
Date Registered: 	2017-10-07, 13:11:18 	barlo357

Both are from the Philippines.


Last post in this thread before today:

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Posted on: 2020-07-08, 00:07:10
Posted by: hd49728 

Why post in a thread that's nearly three years cold?

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Last post in April:  2020-04-06, 14:35:05 by hd49728

barlo357 wakes up:

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5/15/2020 1:33:23 PM 	woke up  	barlo357

and bumps this very thread that had been inactive for more than two months:

that guy is secretly fishing for merit on the time that he is still a Member rank. too bad that i cleared our convo back then

i'm also secretly being bitter on his merit count and thought of one day he will make a shady action

i hope you already looking forward and moved on on what happened to you

barlo357 only merits was to barlo_blake

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Date Registered: 	2018-04-14, 11:43:00
Last Active: 	2018-08-02, 01:49:58

Two weeks after barlo_blake UID was created, theyoungmillionaire changed their password

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4/25/2018 8:43:59 PM 	password changed
6/6/2018 1:12:37 PM 	password changed
1/28/2019 8:27:54 AM 	password reset via email
4/18/2019 12:31:57 AM 	password changed

barlo_blake was short lived:

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Date Registered: 	2018-04-14, 11:43:00
Last Active: 	2018-08-02, 01:49:58

As was this "imposter" theyoungmillionaire007:

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Date Registered: 	2018-06-25, 23:54:46
Last Active: 	2018-09-12, 04:42:43

Not saying they are alts, but it's uncanny...

Bro I commend your efforts on back tracking. This was my uncle's account and I introduced him this forum since he was unemployed. I told him to make barlo_blake (the name of his dogs) in case this account will be banned and use this to make appeal to the mods. He entrusted this account to me last 2018 to spot a paying bounty campaign but unfortunately during that time most bounty campaigns from ICOs are not paying due to some factors such as bear market, no investors trying to risk their wealth to ICOs (no softcap/hardcap reached means no value of bounty tokens, base from my understanding back then).

If you are asking why I'm not using my main it is because it was banned due to excessive posting on the ANN thread that I'm working on. It was my fault since I didn't read the rules when it comes to updating the ANN thread (as I remember, it was banned on mid 2019).

I was also the one that post this way back 2020:

that guy is secretly fishing for merit on the time that he is still a Member rank. too bad that i cleared our convo back then

i'm also secretly being bitter on his merit count and thought of one day he will make a shady action

i hope you already looking forward and moved on on what happened to you

I remembered theyoungmillionaire is fishing merits since my uncle is the one that informed me about it. After waking up this account due to boredom (2020), I checked the messages and see the theyoungmillionaire's message on this account saying "muzta?" (He was asking how I was) and I'm just shocked that my intuition was right back then and saw theyoungmillionaire 's account with negative trust and saw this thread and reply to it. I rarely post during the last bull run since I'm doing full time trading on crypto but I'm still a silent reader on the forum mostly on altcoin discussions.

And yeah, after waking this account again (2023) for bounty campaigns, I scanned again my inbox and saw and checked theyoungmillionaire's account again and reply to this thread without knowing that I already replied to this thread way back 2020 until you back track it and made me remember that I already reply to this thread.


P.S. I hope you still get my point even my sentence construction is bad.

[Timelord2067]

@barlo357:

Who is theyoungmillionaire if not you?


You've just admitted yet another UID is banned, so unless you are appealing that ban, you are engaging in ban evasion.

[T3PR00T]

If you are asking why I'm not using my main it is because it was banned due to excessive posting on the ANN thread that I'm working on. It was my fault since I didn't read the rules when it comes to updating the ANN thread (as I remember, it was banned on mid 2019).

Mistake you don't want it anyone to know not even yourself Lol.

It's clear, you are not TYM. But it's not going to help you now. For ban evading you will be punished unfortunately.

[barlo357]

@barlo357:

Who is theyoungmillionaire if not you?

I don't have any details other than a fellow Filipino.

@barlo357:

You've just admitted yet another UID is banned, so unless you are appealing that ban, you are engaging in ban evasion.

I'm going to appeal in few days. I hope they would unban me since it was my first time managing an announcement thread and I don't know spamming would get a ban without any warnings.

[Timelord2067]

@barlo357:

You've just admitted yet another UID is banned, so unless you are appealing that ban, you are engaging in ban evasion.

I'm going to appeal in few days. I hope they would unban me since it was my first time managing an announcement thread and I don't know spamming would get a ban without any warnings.

So what is your alt then?

[nutildah]

@barlo357:

You've just admitted yet another UID is banned, so unless you are appealing that ban, you are engaging in ban evasion.

I'm going to appeal in few days. I hope they would unban me since it was my first time managing an announcement thread and I don't know spamming would get a ban without any warnings.

So what is your alt then?

Why don't you figure it out for yourself?

He doesn't owe you anything.