Loan Default - theyoungmillionaire u=1180530

[Maus0728]

I'm willing to help the OP if he wants to push on filing the case. I believe we can forced coins.ph to disclosed the user identity if we have a court order for the case. Many ponzi scammer before that been arrested using there coins.ph account and I believe coins.ph are cooperating if ever there is an ongoing investigation from one of there user.

Do we need to publicly announce this issue in our local board to at least get some help in order in order to notify coins.ph immediately? I still have our conversation in telegram.

I am willing to create a thread with regards to this issue . I feel sad that it had come to this point.

[Coin_trader]

I'm willing to help the OP if he wants to push on filing the case. I believe we can forced coins.ph to disclosed the user identity if we have a court order for the case. Many ponzi scammer before that been arrested using there coins.ph account and I believe coins.ph are cooperating if ever there is an ongoing investigation from one of there user.

Do we need to publicly announce this issue in our local board to at least get some help in order in order to notify coins.ph immediately? I still have our conversation in telegram.

I am willing to create a thread with regards to this issue . I feel sad that it had come to this point.

Judging on the intensity of the crime he commit here. I believe creating new thread on our local board might help us to get more lead about TYM. I believe he interact a lot of Filipino user in our local board. Raising this issue there is relevant since he was our countrymen and we should act accordingly to sue this guy.

Given that this guy was very talented. He can farm again new account to rank up, build reputation and repeat this scenario again. This is really alarming and I believe he still own alt account that has a solid reputation in the forum.

[JollyGood]

It was stated in several places in the forum that TYM was heavily active in the Philippines local board.

If he happily destroyed his reputation for the sake of the defaulted loan amount then without doubt it would not take him too long before managed to build up other alt-accounts for the very same purpose. For all we know he already using his other accounts to get to a level of trustworthiness where a loan can be asked before he defaults again.

I'm willing to help the OP if he wants to push on filing the case. I believe we can forced coins.ph to disclosed the user identity if we have a court order for the case. Many ponzi scammer before that been arrested using there coins.ph account and I believe coins.ph are cooperating if ever there is an ongoing investigation from one of there user.

Do we need to publicly announce this issue in our local board to at least get some help in order in order to notify coins.ph immediately? I still have our conversation in telegram.

I am willing to create a thread with regards to this issue . I feel sad that it had come to this point.

Judging on the intensity of the crime he commit here. I believe creating new thread on our local board might help us to get more lead about TYM. I believe he interact a lot of Filipino user in our local board. Raising this issue there is relevant since he was our countrymen and we should act accordingly to sue this guy.

Given that this guy was very talented. He can farm again new account to rank up, build reputation and repeat this scenario again. This is really alarming and I believe he still own alt account that has a solid reputation in the forum.

[target]

-snip

Very interesting observation. I wouldn't say it's solid but definitely suspicious. Should we expect finalshot to also ask for a loan soon? 

I'm willing to help the OP if he wants to push on filing the case. I believe we can forced coins.ph to disclosed the user identity if we have a court order for the case. Many ponzi scammer before that been arrested using there coins.ph account and I believe coins.ph are cooperating if ever there is an ongoing investigation from one of there user.

Do we need to publicly announce this issue in our local board to at least get some help in order in order to notify coins.ph immediately? I still have our conversation in telegram.

I am willing to create a thread with regards to this issue . I feel sad that it had come to this point.

Judging on the intensity of the crime he commit here. I believe creating new thread on our local board might help us to get more lead about TYM. I believe he interact a lot of Filipino user in our local board. Raising this issue there is relevant since he was our countrymen and we should act accordingly to sue this guy.

Given that this guy was very talented. He can farm again new account to rank up, build reputation and repeat this scenario again. This is really alarming and I believe he still own alt account that has a solid reputation in the forum.

If coinsph can do that then why not. It will be a good response to at least prevent from happening again.

[Digitradez]

It really has a big difference compared to the money you lent to TYM and It is just a small fraction of bitcoin as stated in the above reply to LogitechMouse. I don't think filing a police report is a good idea with that amount of money.

https://i.imgur.com/CKvNk3bm.jpg

This is the address he used for receiving my BTC: 35jR51b4MRoULgKwBD8sRXq8JnP4iG3vvz
Reference id: 44f882d9bc7d

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/35jR51b4MRoULgKwBD8sRXq8JnP4iG3vvz
In his address, there are total of 155 transactions.

We've used coins.ph in making this transaction.


This time around. I want to help DireWolfM14

This might be a lead to sue him. If ever there is a transaction from his wallet address that he used to borrow money and the coins.ph address above, You can file a police report using that evidence. Combining the total amount that he loans here are worthy to sue him. I'm willing to help the OP if he wants to push on filing the case. I believe we can forced coins.ph to disclosed the user identity if we have a court order for the case. Many ponzi scammer before that been arrested using there coins.ph account and I believe coins.ph are cooperating if ever there is an ongoing investigation from one of there user.

The only problem is that most the judiciary branch in PH are closed due to pandemic. It will take some time to reopen again.

Legal action would be a waste of time for such a small amount, I know from personal experience, but good luck with that. Can't say I feel bad about a loan shark not being paid back, OP was charging rates that would be considered illegal in many parts of the world. He wasn't even necessarily scammed, someone just defaulted on a loan, happens everyday in America.


" In most jurisdictions today (meaning, all of the USA, and most other civilized countries) usury (the crime of charging interest above a certain rate) is illegal; hence, usurious lenders operate outside the bounds of the law, because no court will assist them in getting a judgment against, or enforcing collection from, borrowers at the usurious interest rates they charge their customers — the lender, in other words, has no _legal_ recourse, if the borrower should default (fail to pay back) on the illegal loan (principal _or_ interest)."

[logfiles]

Legal action would be a waste of time for such a small amount, I know from personal experience, but good luck with that. Can't say I feel bad about a loan shark not being paid back, OP was charging rates that would be considered illegal in many parts of the world. He wasn't even necessarily scammed, someone just defaulted on a loan, happens everyday in America.

Have it in mind that this was a no collateral loan we are dealing with, which is given to someone who is a complete stranger over the web, so the high interest rate would be more than reasonable.

On top of that, if someone was totally uncomfortable with the interest rate that is clearly stated in the announcement, then why would they go ahead and request for the loan

[harizen]

...and I believe coins.ph are cooperating if ever there is an ongoing investigation from one of there user.

Yes, I'm sure they will cooperate.

Just for reference, I ask them before if it's possible for them to help me track or at least give me the contact number of a user who defaulted a loan in our local lending thread and coins.ph support is very responsive the whole time we discussed the case. It's quite long though as they really need every information.

After the preliminary review, they now gave me the official complaint form (I have the link in my ticket). After that, for some reason, that user now response to me via Telegram (thanks to @Bttzed03 for giving me the user's contact information) after 4 days and sends an apology message. He also told me that his coins.ph got disable and he thinks it's because of what I did. The user asked for an extension to his loan. Never been heard anything from him since Feb 15. I'm sure that user is just around.

[JollyGood]

I feel sorry about this whole situation.

What might seem a small amount of money to one person could be a huge amount of money to another person and as you said to be ripped off by someone who you thought was a brother and you trusted was something a hard hit to take.

I hope other people do not get scammed in this way where trust is damaged.

I just can't take this because I also lent him my personal money that is my allowance and it's a lot for me as a student.

You're a student and yet you got a huge money already but you didn't handle it properly and got baited by this user . Feel bad for you though.

Yes, I am still a college student. As for you guys it is not that huge amount of money and will not regret if I will gonna lose it. But the fact that I gave my trust to someone whom I considered brother for long time is big deal. That money comes from my 4  week allowance which I used in buying bitcoin for long term hold, but I decided to lend him that money because I just wanted to help as it will help me too because he promised me to pay it back with an interest at a given date. It happened already and I don't have anything else to do here!. I just hope that he's okay for the sake of DireWolfM14

I'm sorry I missed this, and sorry for your loss.  How much did you lend to him?  Do you have any evidence, or chat logs?  If so feel free to post them here.  I also suggest you file a police report.

It really has a big difference compared to the money you lent to TYM and It is just a small fraction of bitcoin as stated in the above reply to LogitechMouse. I don't think filing a police report is a good idea with that amount of money.



This is the address he used for receiving my BTC: 35jR51b4MRoULgKwBD8sRXq8JnP4iG3vvz
Reference id: 44f882d9bc7d

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/35jR51b4MRoULgKwBD8sRXq8JnP4iG3vvz
In his address, there are total of 155 transactions.

We've used coins.ph in making this transaction.


This time around. I want to help DireWolfM14

[ChiBitCTy]

The user seemed very promising and was doing great job for the community especially in their local community. There must be something wrong with him, possibly any physical condition or something? It's hard to believe that they are not responding and ran away with the money but till this point it's seems that's the truth.

I will tag the user and will follow this topic and I really hope that they come back and make the full repayment.

I couldn't agree more.  They seemed to be a pretty solid forum member and seemingly just a good person.  They also offered up some very needed support for myself when I needed it most. Meant a lot.

Sorry to see this DireWolf. Let's hope for something like they had some sort of life issue that isn't too serious (but was a legit reason to keep them away) and that they'll come back and honor their commitment.

[hd49728]

I couldn't agree more.  They seemed to be a pretty solid forum member and seemingly just a good person.  They also offered up some very needed support for myself when I needed it most. Meant a lot.

Sorry to see this DireWolf. Let's hope for something like they had some sort of life issue that isn't too serious (but was a legit reason to keep them away) and that they'll come back and honor their commitment.

There are good and bad periods in our whole lifespans. It is not easy to say one person is good or bad but a truly good person will not change the way he or she reacts to anything happens to his or her life. It is so easily to be a good person when you have perfect condition, no troubles even minor troubles. I of course don't mention about truly bad guys who always behave badly.

During bad periods and when have to facing with challenges, if one person keeps demonstrating how good he or she is as he or she always shows, that will be a truly good person.

On the forum, and on the online space, it is not easy thing to verify so don't trust and don't put your trust and money (with high amount) to anyone else.

[cabalism13]

This is only an observation:
...
UID's who also do merit back-scratching with TYM.

I did. D#%& TYM. I thought it was a lot LoL. It was only 19...

Just to give you a bit info about this issue, regarding TYM.
He really do things anonymously, though the only lead that I can remember is the transaction between crwth, where you can see the email and the first name... 🤔 Though I'm still not sure if TYM used coins for that transaction.

And to sum up, crwth has nothing to do about this issue, its a whole different person again. finaleshot2016 and jademaxsuy is the users whom I don't know personally. This is just a mere back scratching on our local. Also AFAIK. They only had few transactions or might be its the only one, when TYM needs BTC in exchange of PHP.


I don't also think back scratching would help and be obvious in these accounts to be accused as alts...
What you guys should do is to investigate the addresses thatbhebused in the past and just like what Coin_trader has said, Coin.ph might be able to help. If only we could get the email and first name used on the account.

I think I am also a victim, now I really don't know if he fooled me over the things that he said before:
-a businessman
-starting business
-lost btcs during dumped
-the photo of him and with some certain whotheguyis

-flights anytime anywhere
(the whole convo has been wiped out by him)

In any case I would also like to help Dire on this. Its really a big money. I do hope the scammers here such as him get into prison. Such a bad influence.

[Maus0728]

~snip~

As far as I remember, that photograph where he is doing a handshake is an evidence that he is a former ambassador of GCC (Global Crpyto Currency). Though he never disclosed that much of information throughout our conversation because he has a habit of deleting the images upon sending, I managed to get at least a hint who are the people related to him in GCC.

This person [1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=24, is somehow one of his colleagues when he is still an ambassador of that token. Here is our conversation on how he introduce dwdollar because I noticed that he is wearing a GCC avatar.



As per the bitcoin address:

This is the address he used for receiving my BTC: 35jR51b4MRoULgKwBD8sRXq8JnP4iG3vvz
Reference id: 44f882d9bc7d

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/35jR51b4MRoULgKwBD8sRXq8JnP4iG3vvz
In his address, there are total of 155 transactions.

We've used coins.ph in making this transaction.

That is a coins.ph address and it looks like he made previous on chain transactions. I am also willing to post a thread in our local to get some help regarding this issue as suggested by @Coin_trader and @harizen.

[DireWolfM14]

Legal action would be a waste of time for such a small amount, I know from personal experience, but good luck with that. Can't say I feel bad about a loan shark not being paid back, OP was charging rates that would be considered illegal in many parts of the world. He wasn't even necessarily scammed, someone just defaulted on a loan, happens everyday in America.

" In most jurisdictions today (meaning, all of the USA, and most other civilized countries) usury (the crime of charging interest above a certain rate) is illegal; hence, usurious lenders operate outside the bounds of the law, because no court will assist them in getting a judgment against, or enforcing collection from, borrowers at the usurious interest rates they charge their customers — the lender, in other words, has no _legal_ recourse, if the borrower should default (fail to pay back) on the illegal loan (principal _or_ interest)."

I provided terms to which the borrower agreed.  No body put a gun to anyone's head and forced them to accept my terms.  

You seem to have a very convoluted sense of logic:  If I'm understanding correctly I'm responsible because I was charging rates that are more than some arbitrary number derived by corrupt governments intended to prevent their banker cohorts from abusing their coordinated corruption?  Got it.  My conclusion; you're obviously an irritating moronic troll, spreading your contradictory shit-posts across the forum trying to draw attention to yourself.  Good luck with that.

[Golgoth]

jademaxsuy removes his trust in theyoungmillionaire and the very next week trusts finaleshot2016 who like theyoungmillionaire changes their password in a 24 hour period.

theyoungmillionaire's top two users to send merits to are jademaxsuy and crwth




jade's top merit receiver is tym:




Two of crwth's top four merit recipients are TYM and jade:




Further reviewing crwth's subsequent trust list inclusions by others, there are a number of other UID's who also do merit back-scratching with TYM.

finaleshot2016

He also created finaleshot2016ALT the 4/23/2019 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2587368

Moreover finaleshot2016 seems to only post on Fridays, with a big amount of posts each time. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=888099;sa=showPosts
It's typically what users with multi-accounts are doing for bounty campaigns.
So it's crystal clear he bought this account.
But it's odd a guy like that could still be enrolled in bounty campaigns, his bounty manager is Hhampuz as I see.
 

[Timelord2067]

He also created finaleshot2016ALT the 4/23/2019 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2587368

Moreover finaleshot2016 seems to only post on Fridays, with a big amount of posts each time. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=888099;sa=showPosts
It's typically what users with multi-accounts are doing for bounty campaigns.
So it's crystal clear he bought this account.
But it's odd a guy like that could still be enrolled in bounty campaigns, his bounty manager is Hhampuz as I see.

I wouldn't have thought to check what day of the week a user posts (I'll have to keep that in mind)  The alt itself was created just five days after the two accounts (theyoungmillionaire & finaleshot2016) changed their passwords.

Name:    finaleshot2016ALT
Posts:    1
Activity:    1
Merit:    0
Position:    Newbie
Status:   INACTIVE
Date Registered:    24 April 2019, 03:17:19
Last Active:    26 June 2019, 23:42:33

Hack or sale of accounts?

[JollyGood]

I am glad you are not letting these trolls get to you. Alt-accounts making mischief while attention seeking is not anything new and Digitradez certainly seems to have at least one other account as the way he is posting like some who has been posting here before.

As for the terms and conditions of the loan, it was part of the deal which was agreed before the money was sent so I have no idea why newbie account Digitradez is behaving in the way he is.

Legal action would be a waste of time for such a small amount, I know from personal experience, but good luck with that. Can't say I feel bad about a loan shark not being paid back, OP was charging rates that would be considered illegal in many parts of the world. He wasn't even necessarily scammed, someone just defaulted on a loan, happens everyday in America.

" In most jurisdictions today (meaning, all of the USA, and most other civilized countries) usury (the crime of charging interest above a certain rate) is illegal; hence, usurious lenders operate outside the bounds of the law, because no court will assist them in getting a judgment against, or enforcing collection from, borrowers at the usurious interest rates they charge their customers — the lender, in other words, has no _legal_ recourse, if the borrower should default (fail to pay back) on the illegal loan (principal _or_ interest)."

I provided terms to which the borrower agreed.  No body put a gun to anyone's head and forced them to accept my terms.  

You seem to have a very convoluted sense of logic:  If I'm understanding correctly I'm responsible because I was charging rates that are more than some arbitrary number derived by corrupt governments intended to prevent their banker cohorts from abusing their coordinated corruption?  Got it.  My conclusion; you're obviously an irritating moronic troll, spreading your contradictory shit-posts across the forum trying to draw attention to yourself.  Good luck with that.

[Jating]

Maybe someone needs to look at the connection with this profile as well: Silent26.



bitcoin address:

Code:

3JxvYBTV3mFiWpQADUe3xUHJspYPr5ncDF

archived: http://archive.is/Pcf5E

[Timelord2067]

Maybe someone needs to look at the connection with this profile as well: Silent26.



bitcoin address:

Code:

3JxvYBTV3mFiWpQADUe3xUHJspYPr5ncDF

archived: http://archive.is/Pcf5E

This is a working theory.

I am investigating a connection between theyoungmillionaire and finaleshot2016 who both changed their passwords within 24 hours as I stated in this post and this follow-up post.  jademaxsuy along with crwth have extensively swapped merits with theyoungmillionaire and finaleshot2016 while in @LoyceV's Default Trust List Week 05 jademaxsuy removed their trust of theyoungmillionaire only to add finaleshot2016 and crwth in Week 06

In addition, I have a working theory that theyoungmillionaire has at least four or five alts being jademaxsuy, finaleshot2016, Squishy01, GDragon, Strufmbae, Silent26, crwth and Maus0728 based on their default trust lists activating the same week for most, or a couple of weeks later (with the same list) in the case of the latter couple of UID's.  As at week 76 all or most still trust theyoungmillionaire and each-other.

Since my first post, Maus0728 has removed their trust of theyoungmillionaire but continues to trust all others (the group in what seems to be a DT abuse cluster).


An example of the alt DT abuse is as follows:  (and it's an incomplete list of the week 76 examples)

In purple the first group that appear to be connected, with those in orange seemingly connected as well via adding the same core ten UID's as those in purple.

Week 76:

Trust list for: theyoungmillionaire (Trust: !!!:  +6 / =0 / -21) (1013 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-06-27_Sat_05.02h)
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theyoungmillionaire's judgement is Trusted by:
1. TMAN (Trust: +27 / =1 / -3) (1303 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. Innocant (Trust: neutral) (9 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. lienfaye (Trust: neutral) (23 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. finaleshot2016 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 774 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. Squishy01 (Trust: neutral) (16 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. GDragon (Trust: neutral) (117 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. eldrin (Trust: +2 / =0 / -1) (38 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. yazher (Trust: neutral) (473 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. Silent26 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (224 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. creeps (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (44 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
11. LogitechMouse (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (241 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
12. Maus0728 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (602 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
13. nakamura12 (Trust: neutral) (210 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
14. Strufmbae (Trust: neutral) (22 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
15. twiki (Trust: neutral) (4 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Trust list for: finaleshot2016 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 774 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-06-27_Sat_05.02h)
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finaleshot2016's judgement is Trusted by:
1. peloso (Trust: +2 / =3 / -3) (DT1 (-11) 171 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. Swordsoffreedom (Trust: neutral) (68 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. asu (Trust: +7 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (7) 629 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. lienfaye (Trust: neutral) (23 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. Russlenat (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (296 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. Yatsan (Trust: +4 / =2 / -0) (584 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. crwth (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (7) 587 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. Squishy01 (Trust: neutral) (16 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. GDragon (Trust: neutral) (117 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. yazher (Trust: neutral) (473 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
11. Silent26 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (224 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
12. creeps (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (44 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
13. LogitechMouse (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (241 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
14. sheenshane (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (5) 707 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
15. cryptoaddictchie (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (873 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
16. Maus0728 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (602 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
17. nakamura12 (Trust: neutral) (210 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
18. jademaxsuy (Trust: neutral) (38 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
19. cryptobenn (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Trust list for: crwth (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (7) 587 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-06-27_Sat_05.02h)
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crwth's judgement is Trusted by:
1. TECSHARE (Trust: +37 / =6 / -2) (913 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. peloso (Trust: +2 / =3 / -3) (DT1 (-11) 171 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. Lauda (Trust: +32 / =5 / -3) (1640 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. robelneo (Trust: +5 / =1 / -0) (20 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. PremiumCodeX (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (23 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. asu (Trust: +7 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (7) 629 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. Kelvinid (Trust: neutral) (30 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. bL4nkcode (Trust: +12 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (9) 530 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. lienfaye (Trust: neutral) (23 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. Gunthar (Trust: +11 / =0 / -0) (110 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
11. panganib999 (Trust: neutral) (36 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
12. Yatsan (Trust: +4 / =2 / -0) (584 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
13. BitFinnese (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
14. finaleshot2016 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 774 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
15. Squishy01 (Trust: neutral) (16 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
16. GDragon (Trust: neutral) (117 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
17. yazher (Trust: neutral) (473 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
18. Silent26 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (224 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
19. creeps (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (44 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
20. LogitechMouse (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (241 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
21. GreatArkansas (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 923 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
22. sheenshane (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (5) 707 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
23. theyoungmillionaire (Trust: !!!:  +6 / =0 / -21) (1013 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
24. Maus0728 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (602 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
25. Uao (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (44 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
26. cabalism13 (Trust: +11 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 942 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
27. nakamura12 (Trust: neutral) (210 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
28. jademaxsuy (Trust: neutral) (38 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
29. cryptobenn (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
30. itoybtc (Trust: neutral) (10 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
31. Strufmbae (Trust: neutral) (22 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
32. Debonaire217 (Trust: neutral) (302 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
33. plvbob0070 (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (353 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Trust list for: Silent26 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (224 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-06-27_Sat_05.02h)
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Silent26's judgement is Trusted by:
1. asu (Trust: +7 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (7) 629 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. Lafu (Trust: +5 / =1 / -0) (1027 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. lienfaye (Trust: neutral) (23 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. finaleshot2016 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 774 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. Squishy01 (Trust: neutral) (16 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. GDragon (Trust: neutral) (117 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. yazher (Trust: neutral) (473 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. creeps (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (44 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. theyoungmillionaire (Trust: !!!:  +6 / =0 / -21) (1013 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. Maus0728 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (602 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
11. cryptobenn (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Compare the above to this week:

Week 77:

Trust list for: Maus0728 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (608 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-07-04_Sat_05.03h)
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Maus0728 Trusts these users' judgement:
1. theymos (Trust: +27 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (62) 6859 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. TMAN (Trust: +28 / =0 / -1) (1303 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. Lauda (Trust: +34 / =4 / -1) (1640 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. hilariousandco (Trust: +21 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (34) 800 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. owlcatz (Trust: +45 / =0 / -1) (DT1! (21) 350 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. LoyceV (Trust: +28 / =1 / -0) (5553 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. Yatsan (Trust: +4 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (5) 585 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. Hhampuz (Trust: +83 / =3 / -0) (1965 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. finaleshot2016 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 774 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. xtraelv (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (16) 1591 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
11. crwth (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (9) 588 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
12. Silent26 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (224 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
13. GreatArkansas (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 923 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
14. Removed theyoungmillionaire (Trust: !!!:  +6 / =0 / -20) (1013 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
14. cryptoaddictchie (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (891 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
15. DdmrDdmr (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (3917 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
16. cabalism13 (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 943 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Maus0728 Distrusts these users' judgement:
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Maus0728's judgement is Trusted by:
1. Yatsan (Trust: +4 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (5) 585 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. finaleshot2016 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 774 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. Squishy01 (Trust: neutral) (16 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. GDragon (Trust: neutral) (117 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. Silent26 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (224 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. Asuspawer09 (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (195 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. cryptoaddictchie (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (891 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. cabalism13 (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 943 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. plvbob0070 (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (354 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

~Maus0728's judgement is Distrusted by:
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Trust list: backscratchers: users agree, they trust or distrust each other.
Trust list: backstabbers: users disagree, one user trust the other, while the other distrust him.


Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.

This investigation is still ongoing.

[Maus0728]

Since my first post, Maus0728 has removed their trust of theyoungmillionaire but continues to trust all others (the group in what seems to be a DT abuse cluster).

Yes. I don't have nothing to hide with regards to removing TYM as one of the people that is included in my trust list recently. I removed him immediately when @LoyceV replied to this thread prior to your first post.

He has much more DT1-exclusions than inclusions already, but his sent feedback is still valid, right? I can understand why some people don't exclude him. Even though he can't be trusted with money, his past judgement on others is still good. It would be a different story if he started leaving incorrect ratings now, but he hasn't even been online anymore.

This quote reminds me that I need to remove him in my Trust list.
I trusted those user because they are the people who are once active in our Pilipinas Local Section helping to make our forum clean and spam free. Also, I can easily remove Silent26, Strufmbae in my trust list since they are not that active anymore but I won't remove finaleshot2016, GDragon and crwth since they are the one who help me throughout my entire journey in this community and are still active.

[Timelord2067]

Since my first post, Maus0728 has removed their trust of theyoungmillionaire but continues to trust all others (the group in what seems to be a DT abuse cluster).

Yes. I don't have nothing to hide with regards to removing TYM as one of the people that is included in my trust list recently. I removed him immediately when @LoyceV replied to this thread prior to your first post.

He has much more DT1-exclusions than inclusions already, but his sent feedback is still valid, right? I can understand why some people don't exclude him. Even though he can't be trusted with money, his past judgement on others is still good. It would be a different story if he started leaving incorrect ratings now, but he hasn't even been online anymore.

Um no.

You have that back the front.  @LoyceV is replying to *my* first post, here is the full quote that you have amended:

Has anyone reached out to any of these people?  There's still a DT1 in the list (and they're active on the Forum as we speak)

Trust list for: theyoungmillionaire (Trust: !!!:  +6 / =0 / -21) (1013 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-06-20_Sat_05.04h)
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He has much more DT1-exclusions than inclusions already, but his sent feedback is still valid, right? I can understand why some people don't exclude him. Even though he can't be trusted with money, his past judgement on others is still good. It would be a different story if he started leaving incorrect ratings now, but he hasn't even been online anymore.

Why would you misrepresent that when it can be proven to be not true so easily?

I trusted those user because they are the people who are once active in our Pilipinas Local Section helping to make our forum clean and spam free. Also, I can easily remove Silent26, Strufmbae in my trust list easily since they are not that active anymore but I won't remove finaleshot2016, GDragon and crwth since they are the one who help me throughout my entire journey in this community.

That's part of the issue, you're all from what I can see from the Philipino section, so you've either bought the account, or, the question is why did you all add the same users in week three & four?


Week 03

http://loyce.club/trust/2019-02-03_Sun_00.08h/1726595.html - nakamura (first week active) adds theyoungmillionaire
http://loyce.club/trust/2019-02-03_Sun_00.08h/1091163.html - Silent26 adds theyoungmillionaire
http://loyce.club/trust/2019-02-03_Sun_00.08h/1180530.html - theyoungmillionaire creates their trust list and adds Silent26 plus 16 others
http://loyce.club/trust/2019-02-03_Sun_00.08h/1788599.html - jademaxsuy (first week active) adds theyoungmillionaire

Week 04

http://loyce.club/trust/2019-02-12_Tue_19.34h/1180530.html - theyoungmillionaire
http://loyce.club/trust/2019-02-12_Tue_19.34h/888099.html - finaleshot2016 (first week active) adds crwth, silent26, theyoungmillionaire, Maus0728
http://loyce.club/trust/2019-02-12_Tue_19.34h/914465.html - crwth is added by finaleshot2016, Squishy01, GDragon, Strufmbae
http://loyce.club/trust/2019-02-12_Tue_19.34h/1091163.html - Silent26 is added by finaleshot2016, Squishy01, GDragon, theyoungmillionaire

http://loyce.club/trust/2019-02-12_Tue_19.34h/2144073.html - Strufmbae (first week active) adds theyoungmillionaire & crwth
http://loyce.club/trust/2019-02-12_Tue_19.34h/1026915.html - Squishy01 adds finaleshot2016, crwth, silent26, theyoungmillionaire, Maus0728 (does not change their DT again - has 10+ merits) = 1 vote
http://loyce.club/trust/2019-02-12_Tue_19.34h/1060206.html - GDragon adds finaleshot2016, crwth, silent26, theyoungmillionaire, Maus0728 (does not change their DT again - has 10+ merits) = 1 vote

http://loyce.club/trust/2019-02-12_Tue_19.34h/1289002.html - Maus0728 (first week active) added by finaleshot2016, Squishy01, GDragon,

Week 05

http://loyce.club/trust/2019-02-16_Sat_13.06h/1788599.html - jademaxsuy removes theyoungmillionaire

Week 06

http://loyce.club/trust/2019-02-25_Mon_21.39h/1788599.html - jademaxsuy adds finaleshot2016 and crwth

Week 07

http://loyce.club/trust/2019-03-05_Tue_22.43h/1091163.html - Silent26 adds crwth, finaleshot2016, theyoungmillionaire, Maus0728

Week 11

http://loyce.club/trust/2019-03-30_Sat_05.03h/1289002.html - Maus0728 adds finaleshot2016, crwth, silent26, theyoungmillionaire,


This list is only a snap-shot, but the others UID's to make the ten required to be in the running for DT are almost always the same across the board.