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March 20, 2020, 12:09:30 AM
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Those trolls are now spamming their shit in sportsbet´s thread - some ppl really have too much time in their hands - proves you guys did a good job here, doesnt it. Wink

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March 20, 2020, 12:54:43 AM
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Maybe it is also interesting to start a thread regarding all the people that are trying to defend sportbets.io on the moment I post just a normal question/post in their topic.
And reacting very angry there, and all took it personal.. Interesting.
Why should somebody act so angry and frustrated without having any interest in this situation.
I will so some research regarding this, and if I find enough patterns, there will be another thread as well here.
I know that now a lot of employees from sportbets.io will attack me here with replies, but that does not bother me at all. Then I have even more reasons to start a thread.
So I would say, sportbets.io employees, open the fire against me here. Then I can write the names on the list of employees Smiley
Cheers, now I am going to sleep
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March 20, 2020, 01:13:29 AM
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There are a few posts @ elabor77 in regards to gambling about allegations without evidence.
Example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224028.msg54009289#msg54009289

1st one is complaining that they charge a 5% commission. I don't see the issue there. For example, if I complain about moneypot charging a 70% commission for investors, do I really have to go screenshot the commission value in order to complain? Second post is complaining to sportsbet.io that they didn't get a bonus. I'm assuming that sportsbet.io knows who they are (they do), and he's trying to publicly "shame" them to get the bonus. No issue there either. How exactly do you post screenshots of not getting the freebet? Not every negative post has to be accompanied with loads of screenshots and evidence. I know for a fact that elabor77 actually uses the books they talk about; they play value and arbitrage so every new book is an opportunity for profit for them. It's pretty normal for players to publicly complain in hopes of getting a faster resolution. Even happens outside of the Bitcoin gambling world very often.

I have nothing to do with the accounts listed by DarkStar_.
I have two accounts on Bitcointalk, which is officially written in my trust section. This is none of the above.

Okay, would you like to share how much Malubit is paying you to come back and write positive posts then?

Intensely ? lol

Whatever man, definitely not a shills here or related to any of the account mentioned above . Feel free to check  Grin

Couldn't think of a better word  Tongue
Mind sharing how much Malubit is paying you to defend them?

Before I started managing the campaign for malubit.com, I looked at the issues that took place in their thread and it seemed clear to me that someone consciously wanted to slander his name.
I decided to objectively defend the name malubit.com with my alt account "dodgrad". I bet on malubit.com and everything is fine with me, which is also why I support this project.
I have neither broken the campaign rules nor the forum rules.
I can't say much about the other accounts except that they are not mine.

Is this really objective? Even if you started before they approached you to run the campaign, you were still making plenty of posts afterwards. I don't believe that you weren't influenced by personal feelings or opinions as you have a clear financial incentive. Also, if you disliked that there were supposed alt accounts slandering them, was it really the best idea to use alt accounts to fight the slanderers? You're not exactly painting yourself in a positive light. Arguably, a bunch of your posts could be considered paid bumps too such as this one.

Those trolls are now spamming their shit in sportsbet´s thread - some ppl really have too much time in their hands - proves you guys did a good job here, doesnt it. Wink

Probably because I'm wearing a sportsbet.io avatar  Tongue
Unfortunately for them, I'm paid per post (on whatever) by sportsbet.io and not affiliated with them in any other way.

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March 20, 2020, 06:09:04 AM
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It's true that the "dodgrad" account is my alt account. <...>

In that case, kotwica666 was cheating regularly, by enrolling his main and alt account dodgrad at the same bounties, violating campaign rules:
- Byteball Twitter Campaign (posts 14 & 65). Rule: "1 acct per user"
- BITWIN Signature Campaign (posts 682 & 728). Rule: "2. The use of several accounts, any cheating, spamming or unethical behaviour will disqualify you from any of the bounties."
- ETH - 4TH QUARTER PRICE PREDICTION [GAME] (posts 73 & 81). Rule: "No Alt Accounts"
- ChipMixer Signature Campaign (posts). Rule: "5. Enrolling alts will result in both of your accounts removed without payment."
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March 20, 2020, 09:55:34 AM
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Before I started managing the campaign for malubit.com, I looked at the issues that took place in their thread and it seemed clear to me that someone consciously wanted to slander his name.
I decided to objectively defend the name malubit.com with my alt account "dodgrad". I bet on malubit.com and everything is fine with me, which is also why I support this project.
I have neither broken the campaign rules nor the forum rules.
I can't say much about the other accounts except that they are not mine.

Is this really objective? Even if you started before they approached you to run the campaign, you were still making plenty of posts afterwards. I don't believe that you weren't influenced by personal feelings or opinions as you have a clear financial incentive. Also, if you disliked that there were supposed alt accounts slandering them, was it really the best idea to use alt accounts to fight the slanderers? You're not exactly painting yourself in a positive light. Arguably, a bunch of your posts could be considered paid bumps too such as this one.


In fact, I unfortunately used the word "objectively". Of course, working for malubit.com is not completely objective. It was rather a defense of my employer, so partly also my name. This is obvious.
In terms of activity, it was not a bump, but a normal bet:



It's true that the "dodgrad" account is my alt account. <...>

In that case, kotwica666 was cheating regularly, by enrolling his main and alt account dodgrad at the same bounties, violating campaign rules:
- Byteball Twitter Campaign (posts 14 & 65). Rule: "1 acct per user"
- BITWIN Signature Campaign (posts 682 & 728). Rule: "2. The use of several accounts, any cheating, spamming or unethical behaviour will disqualify you from any of the bounties."

The account was not in my hands in these campaigns.

- ETH - 4TH QUARTER PRICE PREDICTION [GAME] (posts 73 & 81). Rule: "No Alt Accounts"
- ChipMixer Signature Campaign (posts). Rule: "5. Enrolling alts will result in both of your accounts removed without payment."

Here I have to admit that I did it consciously. In this way, I increased my chances and cheated the community.
For excuse, I was unable to get into the campaign and I had practically no chance of it, of which I was aware.

I apologize everyone for that.
I'm sorry.

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March 20, 2020, 10:38:26 PM
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YinShuiSiYuan: Posting gap between Feb 5 and Feb 26. Goes from posting in the Altcoin section and Freebitcoin's thread to posting 26/30 posts in Malubit's thread since the gap.

I like this project and i will bet there! I analyzed hundreds of projects and got their ass from them. Now, I'm just helping someone who I think deserves it!
And yes, I will hep them!

If you ever play on LIVE BETTING, try them and you will see about what I'm talking..

With all respect, DarkStar if you want, we can bet on that Wink

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March 21, 2020, 06:37:12 AM
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kotwica666, the signature campaign manager for Malubit, appears to be utilizing a large number of shill accounts to defend the site they are promoting from various scam allegations.

A few accounts have popped up very often in their thread to act in their defense:

dodgrad: Posting gap between Feb 6 and Feb 26. Goes from being an Altcoin Speculation spammer to gaining a sudden interest in Malubit, proceeding to make 40+ posts in Malubit's thread (out of 45). Confirmed alt of kotwica666 by Avirunes
YinShuiSiYuan: Posting gap between Feb 5 and Feb 26. Goes from posting in the Altcoin section and Freebitcoin's thread to posting 26/30 posts in Malubit's thread since the gap.
keyscore44: Posting gap between Feb 27 and Mar 5. Proceeds to post 26 times in Malubit's thread after returning, with only a single signature campaign application post in between.
altcointalk14: Posting gap between Feb 23 and Mar 12, makes 9/9 posts in Malubit's thread
cazkooo: Inactive since November 2018, comes back in Feb 2020, makes a few posts in other threads before starting to intensely defend Malubit
Naficopa: Posting gap between Feb 5 and Feb 20, comes back to start defending Malubit with the majority of their posts.

All of the accounts follow a similar pattern: posting gap, few unrelated posts, and then a rapid transition into purely defending Malubit.

They've had more obvious shills too:

andremalur: Makes a positive review on Feb 28th. When they return to defend Malubit, they conveniently happen to not have an account when arguing in favour of Malubit. Oops.

On SBR, a user happens to inquire about Malubit on Feb 7th, before becoming a site rep on Feb 20th  Roll Eyes


Signature campaign has also led to some positive posts (for example this one from YOSHIE) that happen to be merited from their shill accounts. I can vouch for elabor77 being a legitimate account who actually bets on sports (although not recreationally).

There's probably a few accounts that I'm missing.

Anyone can accuse me - is that what this forum is about?? Just one suspicion to crush opinon about me?
This is absurd!

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March 21, 2020, 05:12:48 PM
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Anyone can accuse me - is that what this forum is about?? Just one suspicion to crush opinon about me?
This is absurd!

You were perfectly fine accusing the various Malubit complainers as sockpuppets (and you could be right, but I have no idea):
Forget about this sock puppet!

Why the double standard when it comes to you? Anyone can accuse anyone about anything. Also, I left a neutral, not a negative.

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Last edit: March 22, 2020, 02:16:14 AM by JollyGood
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It's true that the "dodgrad" account is my alt account.



~snip~

Here I have to admit that I did it consciously. In this way, I increased my chances and cheated the community.
For excuse, I was unable to get into the campaign and I had practically no chance of it, of which I was aware.

I apologize everyone for that.
I'm sorry.

For clarity sake, how many alt-accounts in total do you use now including those used in the past?

What is the primary function of any accounts you use?


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Based on PM spam I received from account YinShuiSiYuan and reading last posts of account Naficopa, I suspect Naficopa and YinShuiSiYuan are alt accounts. Both accounts having that "advertised 10% daily scam" is a bonus. They just can't stay out of shit.
I like this project and i will bet there! [...]
And yes, I will hep them!

If you ever play on LIVE BETTING, try them and you will see about what I'm talking..
So you lied to me in PM?
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Based on PM spam I received from account YinShuiSiYuan and reading last posts of account Naficopa, I suspect Naficopa and YinShuiSiYuan are alt accounts. Both accounts having that "advertised 10% daily scam" is a bonus. They just can't stay out of shit.
I like this project and i will bet there! [...]
And yes, I will hep them!

If you ever play on LIVE BETTING, try them and you will see about what I'm talking..
So you lied to me in PM?

When I wrote to you, I was angry and disappointed and still I am.

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 #32

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1494
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1495

What is the consensus here? Why are there no ratings on malubit?

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March 26, 2020, 12:06:18 PM
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making flags with you is a bad idea given your dead reputation
even scams
so your flags (as your means )  is nothing

let another member create flag
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March 26, 2020, 12:16:26 PM
 #34

making flags with you is a bad idea given your dead reputation
even scams
so your flags (as your means )  is nothing

let another member create flag
Ok boomer.

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 #35


I left a neutral as a warning to readers in the thread. It's not entirely clear whether all/most of the other accounts also belong to kotwica666, or if Malubit purchased a few accounts. It's also unclear as to whether or not Malubit hired the "shilling service" knowing what they were signing up for, or if kotwica666 offered some sort of general advertising package that included positive PR or something not explicitly shilling. Without more information, I don't think a negative is necessarily deserved.

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I left a neutral as a warning to readers in the thread. It's not entirely clear whether all/most of the other accounts also belong to kotwica666, or if Malubit purchased a few accounts. It's also unclear as to whether or not Malubit hired the "shilling service" knowing what they were signing up for, or if kotwica666 offered some sort of general advertising package that included positive PR or something not explicitly shilling. Without more information, I don't think a negative is necessarily deserved.
That makes sense then. I will not do anything to that account either. What about the flags? This kind of shilling, similar to ICO bumping, is fraudulent and worthy of a low level flag, no? I have left it only to those 2.

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I left a neutral as a warning to readers in the thread. It's not entirely clear whether all/most of the other accounts also belong to kotwica666, or if Malubit purchased a few accounts. It's also unclear as to whether or not Malubit hired the "shilling service" knowing what they were signing up for, or if kotwica666 offered some sort of general advertising package that included positive PR or something not explicitly shilling. Without more information, I don't think a negative is necessarily deserved.
That makes sense then. I will not do anything to that account either. What about the flags? This kind of shilling, similar to ICO bumping, is fraudulent and worthy of a low level flag, no? I have left it only to those 2.
Agreed, I supported the flag.

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April 01, 2020, 02:41:17 PM
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Because of red flags and witch hunting around me, I decided to leave this forum and do not give back that loan:



Prolongation till 05.04.2020

Loan amount: 0.182505 BTC
Amount to be repaid: 15% interest rate
Repayment Date: 05.04.2020
Amount to be repaid: 0.21 BTC

Thank you

Finally, your accusations are justified!

_______________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________Dzisiaj nie wszystko wygląda tak, jak nam się wydaje. To, o co mnie oskarżasz, może ci się również tylko wydawać.

Sorry @zazarb

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Because of red flags and witch hunting around me, I decided to leave this forum and do not give back that loan:

Dzisiaj nie wszystko wygląda tak, jak nam się wydaje. To, o co mnie oskarżasz, może ci się również tylko wydawać.

Sorry @zazarb
Proof that you were a bad person and a greedy little polish thief to begin with. Undecided Situations like these never change the character, they just show who you really were to begin with. zazarb please create a flag type 2, sorry for your loss.

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Because of red flags and witch hunting around me, I decided to leave this forum and do not give back that loan:

Dzisiaj nie wszystko wygląda tak, jak nam się wydaje. To, o co mnie oskarżasz, może ci się również tylko wydawać.

Sorry @zazarb
Proof that you were a bad person and a greedy little polish thief to begin with. Undecided Situations like these never change the character, they just show who you really were to begin with. zazarb please create a flag type 2, sorry for your loss.

I will comment on this post later.

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