Health Professionals and COVID-19 - PROOF

[franky1]

do the research beyond the video
actually find something substantial beyond just the video


you seem too swept into just believing something that is liked on youtube that you dont even bother researching beyond
.. then like most of the time. when you do bother to realise something.. you then deny you ever referenced and believed the stuff you linked in the first place and pretend it was those opposing you that believe it
which is such childish tactics

[BADecker]

do the research beyond the video
actually find something substantial beyond just the video


you seem too swept into just believing something that is liked on youtube that you dont even bother researching beyond
.. then like most of the time. when you do bother to realise something.. you then deny you ever referenced and believed the stuff you linked in the first place and pretend it was those opposing you that believe it
which is such childish tactics

The video is a good compilation of the proofs. Rather than simply list the proof points, and show a dozen videos that prove them, this video puts them together in one place to make it easier to follow.

Once you have the points of the video down in your mind, or on paper, you can go look for confirmation or for contradiction.

[franky1]

it is not...
it grabs lots of little bits of info.. and then misrepresents it.
but because it grabbed a small piece of data here and a small piece of data there then stupid people will believe it

but if you actually listen to what they are saying about all the info. you soon realise that their getting it wrong with their conclusions

its like scammers.
a scammer can list 2 things which are general info available elsewhere. and then the thier thing is their target scammy lie they want to promote

EG
a. wash hands for 20 seconds
b. stay 2 metres apart
c. buy silver and ingest it because its the miracle cure

fools like you will think because a and b are widely found info points c must be true too
your not actually researching the proper guidance nor the science nor the technicals to realise it

so here is 2 conclusions made in just the first 10 minutes of that video where a and b are info points and c is bad/wrong conclusions because they didnt and you dont understand the info points

a. estimates for uk were 500k deaths
b. estimates for uk decreased to 20k deaths
c. they can handle it

this is where c is wrong because there are only 4k beds.

a. estimates for were 500k deaths
b. estimates for uk decreased to 20k deaths
c. isolation is not needed

this is where c is wrong because the only reason the 20k number was revised is because of isolation.. without isolation the numbers can be higher than 20k.. stopping isolation now wll ensure it becomes higher than 20k deaths.

here is just one very simple and basic question for you. just one.
do you think the UK hospitals have way more than 500k ICU beds and 500k ventilators to actually treat everyone?

[franky1]

if you really want to cling onto a bit of government/corporate corruption.. here is something that is actually factual for you to delve into and concentrate on

how the healthcare industry is over funded for the management/investors. but underfunded for the front line actual service that is actually suppose to be funded.

there is not enough staff, equipment and beds to actually look after enough people

.. no go research it and actually try helping yourself by following the right path.
yep it fits your mindset and your topic interest, so i see no reason for you to not want to go down that path.
plus it will teach you the reality of actual issues that are actually happening.. so a win for you and a win for everyone else to finally see you start making sense by knowing some real stuff

now go research it

[BADecker]

Now that we see some really good contradicting CV evidence - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HodiDWSkTWU and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCnpPjUvdLM - we're finding that the medical:
1. Doesn't really know what it is talking about;
2. Is scamming us all regarding Coronavirus;
3. Has always been a big lie.

[Spendulus]

Now that we see some really good contradicting CV evidence - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HodiDWSkTWU and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCnpPjUvdLM - we're finding that the medical:
1. Doesn't really know what it is talking about;
2. Is scamming us all regarding Coronavirus;
3. Has always been a big lie.

What you have found is not "proof" or "evidence" but a Youtube video.

[BADecker]

do the research beyond the video
actually find something substantial beyond just the video


you seem too swept into just believing something that is liked on youtube that you dont even bother researching beyond
.. then like most of the time. when you do bother to realise something.. you then deny you ever referenced and believed the stuff you linked in the first place and pretend it was those opposing you that believe it
which is such childish tactics

You are talking about the idea that there is a Coronavirus pandemic, right? Do some research. Take your research to court ans see if it will stand up in a trial.

[BADecker]

it is not...
it grabs lots of little bits of info.. and then misrepresents it.
but because it grabbed a small piece of data here and a small piece of data there then stupid people will believe it

but if you actually listen to what they are saying about all the info. you soon realise that their getting it wrong with their conclusions

its like scammers.
a scammer can list 2 things which are general info available elsewhere. and then the thier thing is their target scammy lie they want to promote

EG
a. wash hands for 20 seconds
b. stay 2 metres apart
c. buy silver and ingest it because its the miracle cure

fools like you will think because a and b are widely found info points c must be true too
your not actually researching the proper guidance nor the science nor the technicals to realise it

so here is 2 conclusions made in just the first 10 minutes of that video where a and b are info points and c is bad/wrong conclusions because they didnt and you dont understand the info points

a. estimates for uk were 500k deaths
b. estimates for uk decreased to 20k deaths
c. they can handle it

this is where c is wrong because there are only 4k beds.

a. estimates for were 500k deaths
b. estimates for uk decreased to 20k deaths
c. isolation is not needed

this is where c is wrong because the only reason the 20k number was revised is because of isolation.. without isolation the numbers can be higher than 20k.. stopping isolation now wll ensure it becomes higher than 20k deaths.

here is just one very simple and basic question for you. just one.
do you think the UK hospitals have way more than 500k ICU beds and 500k ventilators to actually treat everyone?

I didn't have any estimates of death for any country. We saw the professionals estimate 500,000 for the UK. the next day they revised their estimates down to 20,000. Now those estimates are 5,700.

The either don't know what they are talking about, or they are scamming you. In your case the scam is working.

[BADecker]

Now that we see some really good contradicting CV evidence - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HodiDWSkTWU and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCnpPjUvdLM - we're finding that the medical:
1. Doesn't really know what it is talking about;
2. Is scamming us all regarding Coronavirus;
3. Has always been a big lie.

What you have found is not "proof" or "evidence" but a Youtube video.

Correct... just like all the stuff you see for the idea that Coronavirus even exists. You don't have proof. You don't even have evidence. Get it to court where it can be adjudicated regarding what is proof and what is evidence. And get it to many different courts, with many different professionals, so the it won't be easy to trick the public with only one court that is rigged.

[Spendulus]

What you have found is not "proof" or "evidence" but a Youtube video.

Correct... just like all the stuff you see for the idea that Coronavirus even exists. You don't have proof. You don't even have evidence....

Electron microscope.

[BADecker]

What you have found is not "proof" or "evidence" but a Youtube video.

Correct... just like all the stuff you see for the idea that Coronavirus even exists. You don't have proof. You don't even have evidence....

Electron microscope.

It should be quite easy to prove that electron microscopes exist. But we should do this before introducing electron microscope CV evidence into our trial.

[franky1]

What you have found is not "proof" or "evidence" but a Youtube video.

Correct... just like all the stuff you see for the idea that Coronavirus even exists. You don't have proof. You don't even have evidence....

Electron microscope.

It should be quite easy to prove that electron microscopes exist. But we should do this before introducing electron microscope CV evidence into our trial.

the medical industry and majority of public knew about microscopes before you were born. they also used them months before you drank your first glass of bleach hoping to immunise yourself from corona

the medical field studies corona-sars-2 (covid19) and they know whats real.. their thousands of true medical expert peers beats your common cult low IQ peers..
and even if people brought in truck loads of evidence into a court room.. you would still find some excuse to not bother learning anything.

[BADecker]

the medical industry and majority of public knew about microscopes before you were born. they also used them months before you drank your first glass of bleach hoping to immunise yourself from corona

the medical field studies corona-sars-2 (covid19) and they know whats real.. their thousands of true medical expert peers beats your common cult low IQ peers..
and even if people brought in truck loads of evidence into a court room.. you would still find some excuse to not bother learning anything.

You are such a sweetheart. You don't realize, do you, that I knew about microscopes before you were born.

You don't know that the medical studies CV, do you? Maybe they were faking it when you saw them look into the microscopes, right? I mean, look at all the movies that are made with all the fake stuff. Maybe all the medical stuff is fake as well... as far as you know.

If courtroom evidence isn't sufficient to prove the case, it should be rejected, right? If it isn't rejected, it will be just as bad as it is today... all the blab with no proof.

[franky1]

it isnt hearsay if the doctors show actual ct scans and actual patients are saying how they got sick.(first hand accounts)

heck. if you think no one is getting sick.. then who are you going to sell your megadose supplement to
why are you drinking bleach if there is nothing to be afraid of
why are you even promoting things as a cure if you think there is nothing to cure

do you see how you flip flop and cant even keep your own story straight
funny part is all your video links are of people that obviously havnt been in an ICU ward or a viral analysis lab in the last 4 months.. yet strange how you believe them.. very strange

[BADecker]

it isnt hearsay if the doctors show actual ct scans and actual patients are saying how they got sick.

heck. if you think no one is getting sick.. then who are you going to sell your megadose supplement to
why are you drinking bleach if there is nothing to be afraid of
why are you even promoting things as a cure if you think there is nothing to cure

do you see how you flip flop and cant even keep your own story straight

It's hearsay to someone who doesn't know how to read CAT scans.

The point isn't that people are or aren't getting sick. The point is what they are getting sick from. There is no proof that it is Coronavirus, to say nothing about Covid-19. It absolutely COULD be covid-19. But it could be all kinds of other things, as well.

So, show the proof that it isn't the common cold, or simple pneumonia, or SARS or something else. Get the doctors on the stand under oath, and let them show the evidence with the witnesses.

Just because a bunch of media believe a few doctors, isn't proof. Just because governments report stuff, isn't proof. If you think no doctors or politicians never lied, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

[franky1]

your video is of a presenter in a faux tv studio he made to make himelf look like he a real news presenter.. but isnt

i shown links of actual doctors with actual patients and that actual doctor showing actual scans of his actual patients.
he actually went to medical school and had actual training..

can the guy you advertise say the same..
no
all you want to do is kiss his ass and hope he pasys you some money while you advertise his tour dates that come with a price

[BADecker]

your video is of a presenter in a faux tv studio he made to make himelf look like he a real news presenter.. but isnt

i shown links of actual doctors with actual patients and that actual doctor showing actual scans of his actual patients.
he actually went to medical school and had actual training..

can the guy you advertise say the same..
no
all you want to do is kiss his ass and hope he pasys you some money while you advertise his tour dates that come with a price

Well, get your guys to court, then, and prove it.

If nobody had shouted "Coronavirus pandemic," no proof would have been needed. But since they shouted it, let them prove they are right.

Look up the "War of the Worlds" radio broadcast October, 30, 1938. Orson Welles did that broadcast like it was really happening. People panicked around the nation. From https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/welles-scares-nation:

The Federal Communications Commission investigated the unorthodox program but found no law was broken. Networks did agree to be more cautious in their programming in the future.

The difference with Coronavirus is that the lives and businesses are being destroy by the panic. But where is the proof that there is any pandemic?

Quit picking on people, and find the proof for the disease.

[franky1]

the war of the worlds radio broadcast didnt have any real patients. didnt have relatives didnt have doctors who all witnessed it.
i even showed you a video of a doctor who was an ICU doctor and witnessed it.

you are the one that cant prove anything your the one with the stories.

[BADecker]

the war of the worlds radio broadcast didnt have any real patients. didnt have relatives didnt have doctors who all witnessed it.
i even showed you a video of a doctor who was an ICU doctor and witnessed it.

you are the one that cant prove anything your the one with the stories.

Think about this. So far the CV testing is on fragments of RNA. These fragments could be part of any one of dozens of viruses besides Covid-19... and including the various standard forms of influenza. So, why do they say it is Covid-19, or even Coronavirus at all? After all, the tests aren't specific enough to prove that it was CV! It could be all kinds of other things.

Besides, this year isn't any worse than any other year in general deaths. 2017 was worse.

The whole CV pandemic is a bunch of BS.

[BADecker]

I am not sure what type of practice you have, however if you were treating a patient with COVID-19, can you explain the reasons why you would prescribe someone Hydroxychloroquine to treat the disease? and also can you explain some of the reasons why you would not prescribe Hydroxychloroquine?

This drug has not been proven in effectiveness in treating COVID-19, however clinical trials required to show proof can take time that hundreds of thousands of people may not have, and there is some anecdotal evidence that it works. 

studies show its effectiveness as a antiviral is not much/any. hense also needing an antiviral as part of treatment. but it has shown some effectiveness at dampening the immuni inflamatory response that causes the breathing distress.

there is not single magic pill and even if able to breathe easier doesnt mean your cured of the actual viral invasion. your just symptomless.
taking these drugs as immuno suppressers when not having an immuno reaction can actually harm you and when you get corona you may end up being worse than you would of if you didnt take it prior to getting corona.

thats why there is stil questions around if its a good enough drug for a certain job and when is best to administer it. as administering it even during ARDS (respiratory distress) can exacerbate the other symptoms

Oh, come on, franky1. WW2 sulfa drugs would probably be good enough to cure CV.