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April 08, 2020, 02:08:01 PM
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I am not a believer of these conspiracy theories regarding the COVID 19 outbreak. IMO, none of the governments would sacrifice thousands of their own citizens, no matter what they may gain in the future. Chinese citizens went through hell during lockdown (which lasted 11 weeks in Wuhan). Many were starving and tens of thousands died due to lack of access to medical care. Now please don't tell me that the government planned all this in advance.
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April 08, 2020, 02:16:33 PM
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Let's tackle all of them one by one and we will actually see a great reason why none of this could ever possibly be true.

First of all Chinese stock market can't crash as long as china doesn't want it to crash, it is basically all run by the government.

Lets forget about the crashing of economy because this Virus can't even shaken the Chinese high and strong economy being now Number 1 in the world.
China can build a hospital in 3 days but honestly so can all other nations as well with the right products.
I don't think so with that Big  Hospital?not unless all the materials and plan is already in place then Yes it is possible but starting from scratch?no not 3 days mate .
It wasn't a full blown huge concrete cement building as you know it, it was basically a make-shift hospital that wasn't really all that solid, when all of this is over they will destroy it as well.
It is a stories hospital and not a single floor so it needs to be strong because it may collapse if ever the patients starts coming.
Maybe there was some people in Beijing but since China basically took care of the disease so easily and put defensive measures, it may not go as horrible as people imagined. Plus it has been months since it started in china so we can say people in Beijing probably had it too but now are better.
if they really made it a early defensive so how come that the world becomes infected harder than them?
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April 15, 2020, 12:38:31 PM
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No one can really say what is true except when there is proof. Everything you read on social media especially on Facebook about the virus is just speculation and should not be taken lightly.
Whoever proves to have intentionally created this virus should be held accountable.
Perhaps, we can only say that it is possible to believe the accusation because of circumstances that have been so emphasized to look realistic.

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April 15, 2020, 01:57:18 PM
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If Trump is sweet then he will definitely win the vote not has anything to try to to with the virus However I feel the Chinese strategy is fake. they're spreading false rumors. If that they had gotten out of the virus, they might have had the drugs to cure it, but most of all, they were the primary ones to harm themselves. This virus is typically a present of nature. If Russia supports Trump things are going to be fine if China doesn't enjoy tactics.
I also dont support the part that the Chinese use the covid-19 as strategy. The reason why some people thought the Chinese government used the virus as strategy to profit themselves us because they didn't take necessary measurement in control the virus which is what led the global lockdown now and in the history the Chinese had the most transmitted disease.
You cant blame everybody on not to think up on these possibilities or even conspiracy theories yet we've known on what China is capable of
We cant say that it isnt possible but we cant still point out fingers on them.
No one can really say what is true except when there is proof. Everything you read on social media especially on Facebook about the virus is just speculation and should not be taken lightly.
Whoever proves to have intentionally created this virus should be held accountable.
Perhaps, we can only say that it is possible to believe the accusation because of circumstances that have been so emphasized to look realistic.
Of course, everything should really have corresponding proofs thats why lots of rumors or speculations floating around about this issue
either this virus is a lab-created or simply came from animals.As long this hadnt been cleared out, this would still remain a question.

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April 15, 2020, 02:22:09 PM
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No one can really say what is true except when there is proof. Everything you read on social media especially on Facebook about the virus is just speculation and should not be taken lightly.
Whoever proves to have intentionally created this virus should be held accountable.
Perhaps, we can only say that it is possible to believe the accusation because of circumstances that have been so emphasized to look realistic.

If it is proven that someone (or some organization, or even a government) had created this virus intentionally, then they should be given a death sentence without any leniency (even if it involves a large number of people). Because till now more than 100,000 people have lost their lives. Bioterrorism is no less evil, when compared to other forms of murder.

That said, there should be concrete evidence to prove the same. If evidence is not available, then everyone should refrain from making baseless allegations.
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April 16, 2020, 11:39:22 AM
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that thing really supicios in my mind too , that really unbeliveble that making "full service hospital " in just 3 day and so . the main of beijing are not affected while other country have massive casualities
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April 17, 2020, 09:58:00 AM
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that thing really supicios in my mind too , that really unbeliveble that making "full service hospital " in just 3 day and so . the main of beijing are not affected while other country have massive casualities
If you'll going to think deeper this kind of act or gestures will bring you to your own suspicions, how come that western countries which is so far from Wuhan are now being infected and being hit too much but near cities of China doesn't.
Think out of the box  this pandemic virus is not natural but something where human manipulation has been taken place.

Wuhan as the center of the distribution of corona was really locked down and lockdown in Wuhan is different from the lockdown in Italy or other countries. Public transportation is not allowed at all, not just reduced and people must really be in each other's homes. Since February 27, everyone has to download one app on their cell phone. By downloading these apps everyone is connected to the national health center. Since then, the residents' health status has appeared in green, yellow or red. Officers also stand guard in the streets.

Why are you surprised by other countries that are geographically far from China, but the number of people with coronary disease is large. Try to consider some information in this area:

Since the corona case rolled out at the end of December automatic movement during the Chinese New Year is limited even though the Chinese New Year is the largest annual migration in the world. This suppressed the spread in China.

Wuhan is the world's automotive manufacturing center, automotive connections cause corona connections between America and China and Italy and China.

Vietnam and Taiwan are countries that border directly with China but the level of corona spread is very small there why? Taiwan was paddling before the corona outbreak came while Vietnam immediately carried out Chinese-style lockdowns.

The United States is a country that thinks America is too powerful to be challenged by Corona. From Trump's speech, it can be seen that Trump initially underestimated Corona.

For the construction of the corona hospital it takes a very short time the answer is also very simple:

- China already has the experience of building hospitals as fast as lightning when exposed to the 2003 bird flu virus outbreak.
- Quickly because hospitals are established using prefabricated buildings such as anti-earthquake homes used in Japan.
- China is the world's manufacturing center, buffer stocks for the Chinese New Year holiday are also available.
- The majority of entrepreneurs in China are CCP members, they are solid and respectful of government instructions especially for the benefit of the Chinese people.

Without wanting to discuss who started it, China will take advantage of the corona arena pandemic virus making it into the pitstop first before other countries. After this, we will see a lot of Chinese maneuvers in the fields of economics and health-related to corona, from launching the digital Yuan which has collaterals to the discovery of drugs for sufferers of corona + 2 corona vaccines that have entered stage three and will soon be produced.

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April 18, 2020, 01:49:55 PM
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Chinese strategy? we will never know before there is a secret investigation...
all our suspicions are natural because so many irregularities that occur in China as if they have prepared themselves, especially the speed they build a hospital with COVID patients in just 3 days, we need a secret investigation to them, to be able to prove all the irregularities that occur.



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April 18, 2020, 04:02:47 PM
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Chinese strategy? we will never know before there is a secret investigation...
all our suspicions are natural because so many irregularities that occur in China as if they have prepared themselves, especially the speed they build a hospital with COVID patients in just 3 days, we need a secret investigation to them, to be able to prove all the irregularities that occur.

One of the most affected country in terms of the pandemic outbreak is starting on the place of Wuhan, China after the world knows this kind of pandemic virus they make rules or law and regulation to lockdown some places on their country and inside the china, they lock down their cities too and some people getting evacuated into other places far away from the ground zero of the china and after a few weeks there are a lot of news came from the travelers of the china came from the different countries they did not expect that the virus will spread rapidly even the person infected does not have any symptoms at the first few weeks of the virus, after that, it is now becoming the widely pandemic virus. But still, there is a hoax came from the china because even they are the states of the virus they made cure immediately and if you are trying to check China has one of the most people get cured and recovered and this is the most suspicious thing so they made a lot of rumor about this, after the china release some news about they are now fully recovered still it is not true because some of the people leaking the information that there is a lot of people are still infected on their country and it is hard to identify which is stating the right answer about the situation of the China and the world if it's just a market strategy or not.

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April 18, 2020, 09:55:51 PM
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Maybe you have already seen these videos but the one that surprises me the most is the Chinese Doctor who tried to warn about the Coronavirus.

Harvard professor charged with illegal ties to China
A Harvard University scientist and three others are accused of lying to cover up ties with a Chinese University. (1/29/2020)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JxM7lauNj8

Harvard Professor Accused Of Hiding Ties To China Released On $ 1M Bail
Charles Lieber was released on $ 1 million bail. WBZ-TV's Tiffany Chan reports. (1/30/2020)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcEVIyMLUiM

The Chinese doctor who tried to warn others about coronavirus - BBC News (2/5/2020)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRggIb5Je_w

Coronavirus whistleblowers disappear in China | DW News (12/2/2020)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltYIIXJTKEc

Why is China peddling a coronavirus conspiracy theory? (17/3/2020)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CJY1fO6h0w

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April 18, 2020, 10:28:48 PM
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Maybe you have already seen these videos but the one that surprises me the most is the Chinese Doctor who tried to warn about the Coronavirus.
Yes, I watched it on local TV news about a chinese doctor who revealed that the corona virus had spread since the virus started spreading to various parts of the world so he was considered a hero. That is where the big warning began so everyone felt a sense of awe and previously ignored.
Thus the western part was hit, which also had high-profile cases other than America, the Wuhan people who were sent to Italy for business did not know that they were carriers of the virus so they started spreading there.

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April 18, 2020, 11:54:34 PM
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The Chinese government has been accused often time before and it happens again.
Maybe the proof is strong enough to drag them into the situation that they are created but once to put blame also into an American doctor/scientist that makes it. The conspiracy theory is a way to ruin the Chinese government's reputation and other countries have to give nothing trust for them. Their intention might prevail their true color.

The people are still puzzled and much worry about how to combat this virus, its a killing spree and we are not 100% sure that we are secured.
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April 19, 2020, 01:40:27 AM
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Although it has not yet been proven that China made this virus, but I'm sure China is spreading this virus. Because the largest population of China
in the world, and spread all over the world. Just try to note that in almost every country there are Chinese people, this might be used by the Chinese
government to spread the virus. But this is also just a supposition, investigation is still needed to get strong evidence. That is certain indeed strange
of all countries affected by the virus, only the country of China that looks most ready to deal with the corona virus.

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April 19, 2020, 07:51:16 AM
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I recently read an article that a professor of microbiology suggested that this COVID-19 virus hypothesis was created by a laboratory in Wuhan to create an HIV vaccine. The reason is that he discovered that the COVID-19 virus has DNA segments similar to the HIV virus. He thinks that the virus could for some reason escape from a laboratory in Wuhan. So I don't think this is China's biological weapon. Because if this is a biological weapon they made, they will drop this virus on their enemies and the world will not find evidence that they are the creator of this dangerous virus.
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April 19, 2020, 08:21:17 AM
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 It's one of the conspiracy theories that has been discussed a lot recently. After the first physician in Wuhan informed the corona virus, he was killed shortly thereafter. Recently, Professor Luc Montagnier (famous Microbiologist who was awarded the Nobel Prize in Medicine in 2008 for discovering the HIV virus causing SIDA) studied and concluded that this is an artificial virus. This has raised suspicions to Chinese authorities about the creation of this virus. maybe this pandemic is one of China's plans to rule the world.

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April 19, 2020, 08:54:21 AM
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Let us not rush into the words just because of what others say and read because there is no evidence that they are responsible. Let's just think about how they feel because they are also part of the forum. Just me, I only believe when there is solid proof that can push them.
When the Chinese doctor informed about the virus that died he did not mention that they themselves created the virus.

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April 19, 2020, 08:58:00 AM
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Although it has not yet been proven that China made this virus, but I'm sure China is spreading this virus. Because the largest population of China
in the world, and spread all over the world. Just try to note that in almost every country there are Chinese people, this might be used by the Chinese
government to spread the virus. But this is also just a supposition, investigation is still needed to get strong evidence. That is certain indeed strange
of all countries affected by the virus, only the country of China that looks most ready to deal with the corona virus.

This could be true or not that time will tell but some news coming that suddenly reported 50% of more death in Wuhan city and something is still hidden there. Few reports are claiing that there could be millions of people would have died in this virus and China is not reporting it. Even the mobile operators say that there has being a huge drop in the open connections which look very suspicious as well.


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April 19, 2020, 09:08:26 AM
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Although it has not yet been proven that China made this virus, but I'm sure China is spreading this virus. Because the largest population of China
in the world, and spread all over the world. Just try to note that in almost every country there are Chinese people, this might be used by the Chinese
government to spread the virus. But this is also just a supposition, investigation is still needed to get strong evidence. That is certain indeed strange
of all countries affected by the virus, only the country of China that looks most ready to deal with the corona virus.


Sorry man, but that sounds so stupid. Why would anyone create a virus, that kills citizens of his own country. Imagine if it fails to spread all over the World - it would kill more and more of your citizens. Who would in clear mind do that?

"in almost every country there are Chinese people" - that is racism... Chinese people were not the one who spread the virus, but those people who visit China.

Chine looked ready to deal with covid-19, because they were first to react and start something to do to cure it. Their lockdowns were much stricter. Take look on Europe - there is a lockdown, but still lots of people walking here and there in crowds, molls and etc are still partly open for visitors.

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April 19, 2020, 09:09:47 AM
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Let us not rush into the words just because of what others say and read because there is no evidence that they are responsible. Let's just think about how they feel because they are also part of the forum. Just me, I only believe when there is solid proof that can push them.
When the Chinese doctor informed about the virus that died he did not mention that they themselves created the virus.

Or may be the doctors were under pressure of government so that they can hide their spurious act of virus! You never know anything unless you are part of that system with strong evidences backing you up. China has been bad name all over the globe for many reasons. Im also not being judgemental here but unfortunately their recent act of selling deteriorated products to some of the countries like Spain, Pakistan and India. I guess that is complete cruelty in this emergency situation, and who acts like that ? May be that will push your thoughts to think that they might be the root cause of whole thing.




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May be you should read above response too.


Although it has not yet been proven that China made this virus, but I'm sure China is spreading this virus. Because the largest population of China
in the world, and spread all over the world. Just try to note that in almost every country there are Chinese people, this might be used by the Chinese
government to spread the virus. But this is also just a supposition, investigation is still needed to get strong evidence. That is certain indeed strange
of all countries affected by the virus, only the country of China that looks most ready to deal with the corona virus.


Sorry man, but that sounds so stupid. Why would anyone create a virus, that kills citizens of his own country. Imagine if it fails to spread all over the World - it would kill more and more of your citizens. Who would in clear mind do that?

"in almost every country there are Chinese people" - that is racism... Chinese people were not the one who spread the virus, but those people who visit China.

Chine looked ready to deal with covid-19, because they were first to react and start something to do to cure it. Their lockdowns were much stricter. Take look on Europe - there is a lockdown, but still lots of people walking here and there in crowds, molls and etc are still partly open for visitors.
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April 20, 2020, 01:18:12 AM
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Although it has not yet been proven that China made this virus, but I'm sure China is spreading this virus. Because the largest population of China
in the world, and spread all over the world. Just try to note that in almost every country there are Chinese people, this might be used by the Chinese
government to spread the virus. But this is also just a supposition, investigation is still needed to get strong evidence. That is certain indeed strange
of all countries affected by the virus, only the country of China that looks most ready to deal with the corona virus.

If that a proposition has not yet been proven it means that the opposite can also happen, so we can say it was not China that originally created and spread this virus but the United States, only when Trump was also cheated because initially, the American pharmaceutical industry-supported China, but in the end hit Trump by approaching the democratic party. Democrat Genk Joe Biden cs, WHO, Clinton foundation and big pharmaceutical company and China colluded to create big money from the mistakes of the United States. The United States is synonymous with biological warfare such as SARS and HIV.

The American Pharmacy world played two legs, initially supporting the trump with its biological warfare but in the end supporting the democrats and Joe Bidden. Democrats with Obama's care had juggled the pharmaceutical world to produce a lot of wealth but when Trump came to power, health insurance for Americans was officially removed. The number of US citizens who are not protected by insurance is predicted to rise again. So that the world of pharmacy and health bite the fingers.

Regardless of the validity of this information, it is time for us to break away from the diversion of the big countries and their friends in an independent and self-reliant way. Each country let's make its own vaccine let's create its own medicine for Corona. So that we are not increasingly trapped in the tug of war of big countries which means we are independent but we are not sovereign.

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