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April 28, 2020, 11:18:13 PM
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But according to what I read on BBC, the virus was first discovered by the doctor who is an ophthalmologist when a patient was brought from seafood markets. Probably due to the large population of China and professionals that cut across every field. They could have achieved all that but to me the whole thing is just a hoax just they way there are allegations that Russian assist Trump in winning the election

Russia unequivocally provides Trump with all sorts of indirect support that directly affects the electorate.
Apparently throughout Russia, the victory of the trump is beneficial.
The main question is whether there will be another situation with impeachment and regular investigations after his next victory.


Russia does not really want Trump's victory, to be honest. Simply, if you choose between Donnie and Biden, then the second one does not have popularity in Russia at all. Personally, I, and many acquaintances, sympathized with Bernie Sanders, but he was again leaked to please the establishment, and Trump's victory will be easy again.

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May 02, 2020, 03:29:57 AM
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China become powerful country but have problem right now with corona virus, I don't know virus created by they self or not. We know how strategy by some country to get benefit by creating medicine and take profit after several country need their help.

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May 02, 2020, 06:04:21 AM
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This is something that I have seen a lot of people discuss on Twitter ever since the coronavirus broke out.
A lot f people has blamed the Chinese for this pandemic and some have said that it was created in a Chinese science lab and that the Chinese government is aware of it before it happened.

A lot of things has happened at this time that even made some people to strongly believe that the Chinese are behind everything. And yes, creating a hospital within a short time is one of the things that is making people question whether the Chinese created the virus and we’re ready for it before now, which made them quickly create a hospital that’s huge enough to handle the cases.
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May 02, 2020, 06:34:52 AM
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 I think this is a lab problem in China. they really don't want to be a translator because many countries will have reason to accuse them. since it went wrong and countries in Europe were still affected by the severe pandemic, they probably let their people move to European countries when the pandemic started to appear. . This is indeed a beneficial biological weapon that the Chinese government has secretly carried out long ago. perhaps they are responsible for this for the countries that have had a heavy influence.

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May 02, 2020, 08:36:11 AM
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Looks like I have reason to believe this conspiracy theorem it's supposed that the Chinese feel like to get a European stocks at depression prices, turn into the maximum farm animals holders, and receive the companies redistribute to China, seems they foresaw this coming. America after attacked them for creating this virus in other to improvement humankind efficient dominance. I will notwithstanding be next up on this.

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May 02, 2020, 11:47:39 AM
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Russia does not really want Trump's victory, to be honest. Simply, if you choose between Donnie and Biden, then the second one does not have popularity in Russia at all. Personally, I, and many acquaintances, sympathized with Bernie Sanders, but he was again leaked to please the establishment, and Trump's victory will be easy again.


The dynamics of international politics are always colored by the quote that there are no true friends and foes, only true interests. Of course, Russia doesn't like Trump, because Trump is nationalist. Putin was also a pure nationalist because of his military background. One is a superpower and one is experiencing post power syndrome. But Trump's policy of making America great again and America First gives space for Russia to engage in political maneuvering in the International World because of America's diminished role as a regional stabilizer.

Bernie with his green new deal is indeed very popular especially among the millennial generation, but popularism is not enough to bring Sanders to get support from American oligarchs and plutocrats. When Joe Biden entered Trump, he had attacked with a pharmaceutical scandal in Europe by Joe Biden's children showing concern for Biden's figure.

Biden is a commissioner in many pharmaceutical giant companies. The pharmaceutical world behind Biden influenced 300 electrolier voters in the Democrat Party party. They wanted Joe Biden, Obama, and Clinton to maneuver. Obama care volume 2 was brought by Joe Biden as the theme of the2020 campaign, this could hit Trump, which eventually made Barnie withdrawn.

Once again just to remember, who was most advantageous in COVID 19? Namely the medical world, hospitals, medical devices, and large pharmaceuticals. Once the vaccine is launched, trillion dollars worth.

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May 02, 2020, 12:58:36 PM
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We have seen this political - economic conspiracy theory through many virus games in the world. In addition, the US has punished the internal Chinese economy through taxing goods. Perhaps China did not accept this and retaliated against the US with this corona virus. It is clear that this virus has been studied and determined to be made from humans. That's why I think this is something that was planned. Americans really should be careful when confronting China.


Tinfoil hats on.

The U.S. might be isolating China. There was a drone strike in Iran that killed Qassem Soleimani, who hoped for Chinese presence in the Middle East. There's currently a rumor that Kim Jong Un, China's ally, is in "grave danger" after surgery.

Who are the other leaders that are closely allied with China?
Kim Jong came to the public yesterday against claim of illness from his surgery and he is looking strong. US can only have economic war with Chinese that have not won been since Trump came into power and they cant win the Chinese, considering a war against China is very expensive and damaging to the world especially economically. If China was responsible for the Virus, I think they need to be punished, they might have the population, technology and wealth, they are not meant to destroy people's life to climb the power rank
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Kim Jong came to the public yesterday against claim of illness from his surgery and he is looking strong. US can only have economic war with Chinese that have not won been since Trump came into power and they cant win the Chinese, considering a war against China is very expensive and damaging to the world especially economically. If China was responsible for the Virus, I think they need to be punished, they might have the population, technology and wealth, they are not meant to destroy people's life to climb the power rank

What if the one who spread the virus was America itself? How will the world punish America? Or rather the unknown devil behind the corona pandemic. China is just smashing back passing the ball from America with a little improvisation like in Kungfu hustle film.

China's national interest can be a national threat to America. Here's a simple picture. America spreads the virus to China. knowing this China is only sending back viruses to the United States + bought up most of Corona's personal protective equipment in the world. America coded MBS to reduce oil prices and America would use excess oil production for the war and its original plan was to leave China without energy. Without energy, China cannot fight.

The battlefield chosen was the South China Sea and the Korean Peninsula because the world epicenter has changed. The shadow originally created a world dependent on fossil oil, now the shadow creates a new order in which the world is set up with technology, algorithms, and batteries. The SCS and southeast Asian countries are the energy centers of the new world. By seizing control of the South China Sea, the US automatically blocks China's grand plan to escape energy dependence and even become an energy self-sufficiency country.

Trump needs an achievement star in order to win the 2020 elections. Corona pandemic broke Trump's head. Many intelligence observers worry that Trump will bring out his two skills, war, and economist at war. All that's left is to map out how to create a war around the South China Sea and the Korean peninsula.

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May 04, 2020, 06:36:57 AM
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We have seen this political - economic conspiracy theory through many virus games in the world. In addition, the US has punished the internal Chinese economy through taxing goods. Perhaps China did not accept this and retaliated against the US with this corona virus. It is clear that this virus has been studied and determined to be made from humans. That's why I think this is something that was planned. Americans really should be careful when confronting China.

If this was a a plan from China why they didn't throw the seed of corona virus to the US directly?
The virus started from China and many people died in Wuhan. Was it part of the plan to harm their people? I hate those conspiracy theories without any real fundamentals on the background.
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Kim Jong came to the public yesterday against claim of illness from his surgery and he is looking strong. US can only have economic war with Chinese that have not won been since Trump came into power and they cant win the Chinese, considering a war against China is very expensive and damaging to the world especially economically. If China was responsible for the Virus, I think they need to be punished, they might have the population, technology and wealth, they are not meant to destroy people's life to climb the power rank

What if the one who spread the virus was America itself? How will the world punish America? Or rather the unknown devil behind the corona pandemic. China is just smashing back passing the ball from America with a little improvisation like in Kungfu hustle film.
There is a less chances that America made and spread the virus itself, with America's stance on it right now? I don't really think they did it. There are findings made by America that the virus was not man made, giving them calm to go against China.
China's national interest can be a national threat to America. Here's a simple picture. America spreads the virus to China. knowing this China is only sending back viruses to the United States + bought up most of Corona's personal protective equipment in the world. America coded MBS to reduce oil prices and America would use excess oil production for the war and its original plan was to leave China without energy. Without energy, China cannot fight.
What do you think of the virus? A ball that can be passed easily through nations? lol. Whatever happening now is relatively because of the pandemic, especially the oil price it does mean nothing just like your conspiracy.

From now on, I don't really think that the virus was deliberately spread across countries to start a war.

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May 04, 2020, 01:35:32 PM
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We have seen this political - economic conspiracy theory through many virus games in the world. In addition, the US has punished the internal Chinese economy through taxing goods. Perhaps China did not accept this and retaliated against the US with this corona virus. It is clear that this virus has been studied and determined to be made from humans. That's why I think this is something that was planned. Americans really should be careful when confronting China.
I can barely believe that someone actually made coronavirus on purpose to spoil other country good life.
Obviously there is could war going on, but this seems anti-human and too dangerous - what if such virus could go out of control and humans wouldn't make it through.
Anyway what I am trying to say - it is more possible that China is desperately trying to look cool and show that its all good in there, but obviously they're facing same problems as we are
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We have seen this political - economic conspiracy theory through many virus games in the world. In addition, the US has punished the internal Chinese economy through taxing goods. Perhaps China did not accept this and retaliated against the US with this corona virus. It is clear that this virus has been studied and determined to be made from humans. That's why I think this is something that was planned. Americans really should be careful when confronting China.
I can barely believe that someone actually made coronavirus on purpose to spoil other country good life.
Obviously there is could war going on, but this seems anti-human and too dangerous - what if such virus could go out of control and humans wouldn't make it through.
Anyway what I am trying to say - it is more possible that China is desperately trying to look cool and show that its all good in there, but obviously they're facing same problems as we are

It's possible, the reports are always lying. If China is experiencing the same problem though, they would first solve their own problems before helping other countries which is what they are currently doing surprisingly.

One obvious thing they are doing is that they are seizing this moment to position on top. Making themselves great in the eyes of the leaders of the world which is probably the truth as well.


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(1)Chinese stock market did not get hit seriously it is because they control the virus quickly and successfully, and with the government interfere, so the market would not grow worse.
(2)They put massive man force and military to build this, so the hospital can be done in a very quick time, besides, it is using something like "container box", they did not use concrete, so they can build it fast. And actually is built in 10 days not 3.
(3)When 23.Jan or 25 I don't remember Wuhan announced lockdown, the whole China is acually being strict lock down, people following very strick social distancing rules, they cut the acivities outdoor, so the outbreak is not happening outside Wuhan.
(4)Xijingping was visiting somewhere near Beijing but not at Wuhan, so he is not 100% necessary to wear a N95 mask. Wuhan was the epidemic area at that time, so no one in or out, there is no reason a chairman of a counrty should pay a normal visit for a city during the epidemic.

If the virus was made in China, then why US reported Dec. 2019 deaths cases? If the virus was made in China, why it was outbreak in their own country first? If the virus was made in China, then why the experts reported the Europe cases has the different gene type with China?
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May 05, 2020, 06:24:17 AM
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If the virus was made in China, then why US reported Dec. 2019 deaths cases? If the virus was made in China, why it was outbreak in their own country first? If the virus was made in China, then why the experts reported the Europe cases has the different gene type with China?
These are all just speculation, one country blaming other country because they can't contained the virus, and we will never know which country is telling the truth but I am not concern about it now since my main concern is for the scientist to finally release the vaccine if they already found it.

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May 05, 2020, 07:33:12 AM
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If the virus was made in China, then why US reported Dec. 2019 deaths cases? If the virus was made in China, why it was outbreak in their own country first? If the virus was made in China, then why the experts reported the Europe cases has the different gene type with China?
These are all just speculation, one country blaming other country because they can't contained the virus, and we will never know which country is telling the truth but I am not concern about it now since my main concern is for the scientist to finally release the vaccine if they already found it.
Try to look upon the areas of points and then tell us that some of those are not legit?

So many questions that needs to be answered maybe not now but in future when this epidemic starts to cool down,because if the claims are real then someone must pay for this one.

Hundred thousands people died and millions that almost dead but Lucky they did survive.

I can feel that there is really responsible on this.

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May 05, 2020, 08:20:20 AM
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If the virus was made in China, then why US reported Dec. 2019 deaths cases? If the virus was made in China, why it was outbreak in their own country first? If the virus was made in China, then why the experts reported the Europe cases has the different gene type with China?
These are all just speculation, one country blaming other country because they can't contained the virus, and we will never know which country is telling the truth but I am not concern about it now since my main concern is for the scientist to finally release the vaccine if they already found it.
Try to look upon the areas of points and then tell us that some of those are not legit?

So many questions that needs to be answered maybe not now but in future when this epidemic starts to cool down,because if the claims are real then someone must pay for this one.

Hundred thousands people died and millions that almost dead but Lucky they did survive.

I can feel that there is really responsible on this.
The reasons for this may be different and there is no need to be any street in the US or China.  although for everything that happens in any case, someone should answer.  There are many versions of what is happening and why.  But if in the near future a vaccine against coronavirus will be created and vaccination will be mandatory for every person, then I will believe in another version of the World Plot, which today walks on the Internet.
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May 05, 2020, 04:16:58 PM
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China could EASILY be broken, however it means millions of people dead and Chinese government doesn't really care about that anyway so it wouldn't really be a battle. How do you fight something that has no life? What happens if china starts to lose billions even trillions in profits? They will simply just let their people die and move on, they literally did that back in the day, 20 million plus people died and they moved on.

So you can fight them, just take out your manufacturing from china and move it to some other nation that is cheap, there are a lot of poor countries, you can simply move to Africa and make them super happy, they wouldn't be like china neither, they would love you for it and work for close to free, however when you do that you are building a whole infrastructure and waging a war at the same time, doesn't really worth it if you ask me.
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May 05, 2020, 07:12:11 PM
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We have seen this political - economic conspiracy theory through many virus games in the world. In addition, the US has punished the internal Chinese economy through taxing goods. Perhaps China did not accept this and retaliated against the US with this corona virus. It is clear that this virus has been studied and determined to be made from humans. That's why I think this is something that was planned. Americans really should be careful when confronting China.
If it is really proved that the virus was man-made and was specifically used against the United States, I’m even afraid to imagine what wave of anger this will cause in the United States, and China will not be able to feel good without such a huge market as the American one.

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May 06, 2020, 08:07:44 AM
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There is a less chances that America made and spread the virus itself, with America's stance on it right now? I don't really think they did it. There are findings made by America that the virus was not man made, giving them calm to go against China.

When the US accused China, China asked the US to be transparent about the pandemic in its country, especially the problem of zero cases. China reported to WHO on January 3, 2020, the first positive case was reported in US on January 21, 2020, but it was not clear that the patient was zero. Until now there has been no action from the US. China also explained that since the end of January the US had sent 2 experts to China to research about this epidemic, this was enough to explain that China was very open.


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What do you think of the virus? A ball that can be passed easily through nations?

The fact is that the coronavirus spreads easily, like throwing an ink ball into a crowd. We assume that China did not intentionally spread the virus to the US, but the attitude of many countries who are relaxed in handling this virus, when China did the Wuhan lockdown so that the Virus entering the US is US's fault not China's fault.

A Chinese foreign ministry spokesman mentioned documents from a leaked republican party containing suggestions for candidates to refer to China's wrongdoing in the corona pandemic by cornering China which is covering up to spread globally.

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Whatever happens now is relatively because of the pandemic, especially the oil price it means nothing just like your conspiracy.

This is not just a conspiracy theory, this is an analysis of defense and economic intelligence. Data without analysis does not become information, information is strategized to become knowledge, what is needed by many countries is knowledge, not raw data or information that is half-measures. In the end, it is up to each country to use the knowledge or not.

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May 06, 2020, 02:29:12 PM
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I do not know exactly what they (China) planned from the start, but seeing from the quick handling they have done on Covid-19 patients has proven that they are the country that is most ready to deal with the Covid-19 virus.  it's likely they had predicted this outbreak first..
No, its not like that. You have to read several news about the spread of Covid-19. I dont want to think about conspiracy, but i want all of you holding hand together to take care this pandemic. Keep your mind in positif way

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