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July 01, 2020, 08:45:18 AM |
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I will keep an eye on them also. I think they are using service. Because some of the accounts are from 2014 but they are only posting on ann thread. So, those accounts must be the accounts of that service seller. But you can also be right they might use the airdrop system to bump the thread. let's see the next round of airdrop.
There is one more thing that makes me lean towards conclusion that this spam was made by airdrop: if you check that archived version of their ANN (since all those spam posts have been deleted now) you will see that most comments were very short, like "great project", "good project" "thanks" and similar spam. While posts made by bumping services are not much better, they are still a bit longer, and usually made in form of question, so they at least write one whole sentence, and not word or two like it is usually the case with airdrop spam. Anyway, let's see what happens when they start 2nd airdrop round.
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July 14, 2020, 07:57:47 AM |
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Two new announcement threads added to the list, both are from the same project, Simba Storage. 🔥[ANN]SIMBA Storage-Stablecoin baked by Bitcoin Satoshi🔥[ANN]SIMBA Storage - Cтeйблкoин Oбecпeчeнный Caтoши Simba storage decided to use bumping service for both English and Russian threads, similar to what PZM Cash and SUR are doing. Accounts that are active in SIMBA are also working on few other names on the list, like DSF and PZM Cash removing any doubt whether they are using their their own accounts or just hiring external party to do their dirty work.
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July 14, 2020, 08:33:03 AM |
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OP can you please check out and watch for new ANN topic for Center Coin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262053.0We are starting to see bunch of comments from newbie accounts. They also did same commenting for some ESR coin.
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July 14, 2020, 08:39:46 AM Last edit: July 14, 2020, 09:00:41 AM by Rikafip |
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Yeah I noticed Center Coin just after I made this last update. It is also an obvious case of bumping. As you said, same accounts worked on ESR coin too, including the OP of Center Coin so no wonder that both of those ANN threads have similar design as well, since thye obviosuly hired the same marketing agency to create their ANN and provide some extra visibility or whichever term they use to sell that useless spamming.
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July 14, 2020, 09:23:53 AM |
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Rikafip, you can add the following ANN thread to your list: TimeCoinProtocol - decentralized sharing economy protocolNewbie accounts bumping this thread: thannwhetemsols - Date Registered: January 24, 2018 - 2 posts buckprotfuti - Date Registered: January 24, 2018 - 3 posts ticoncterli - Date Registered: January 24, 2018 - 3 posts sunilnisha3 - Date Registered: October 29, 2019 - 3 posts RGhozi - Date Registered: October 31, 2019 - 2 posts clearanerca - Date Registered: January 23, 2018 - 2 posts nitaccacen - Date Registered: January 24, 2018 - 2 posts niaprejcilli - Date Registered: January 23, 2018 - 2 posts olsurtepach - Date Registered: January 23, 2018 - 2 posts weioumeng4 - Date Registered: November 02, 2019 - 2 posts Gungh0 - Date Registered: October 23, 2019 - 2 posts Explanation by the OP of the ANN thread: ... It is likely that these new accounts are users who came for us from other social networks. We made an announcement and told our community about what we now have on bitcointalk. We are sure that over time they will get used to this forum.
... I am sure that all these people came to support us after we told them that we are now on this forum. I don’t think they’ve conceived anything bad.
I'm not buying it, though.
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July 14, 2020, 04:50:53 PM |
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Good find, TimeCoinprotocol has been added to the list. Explanation by the OP of the ANN thread: ... It is likely that these new accounts are users who came for us from other social networks. We made an announcement and told our community about what we now have on bitcointalk. We are sure that over time they will get used to this forum.
... I am sure that all these people came to support us after we told them that we are now on this forum. I don’t think they’ve conceived anything bad.
Hah yeah, all those newbie accounts that were made in 2019 just suddenly decided to wake up, and without any prior activity started writing in their ANN. Yeah. I am not buying it either. Another obvious case, and another ANN added to the list, making it 51 so far. Regarding the Sensitrust and ETH2X, I only add those ANN threads that are active at the moment of discovery, so I won't add those. At least not for now, but if they reactivate and continue using bumping service, they will be added for sure.
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July 16, 2020, 12:13:03 PM |
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There's definitely something suspicious about that one. Probably some kind of off-site bounty strategy. Accounts bumping this thread: Name | | Rank | Date Registered | No. of bumps | Supremacy1 | | Jr. Member | March 23, 2018 | 27 | ICO SUPPORTER | | Newbie | September 23, 2018 | 17 | Ahlbie | | Jr. Member | May 26, 2019 | 8 | nyeffy | | Jr. Member | October 09, 2018 | 11 | noma45 | | Jr. Member | April 11, 2018 | 15 | bossU2Y | | Jr. Member | October 31, 2017 | 3 | Xell | | Member | February 08, 2014 | 18 |
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July 16, 2020, 01:37:41 PM |
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OP can you please check one more topic that maybe deserves to be added to the list of bumping services for using fake conversation?
You were right, they are obviously using one of those bumping service. Bunch of the accounts that they are using were inactive since October 2019, and then suddenly woke up and started spamming there. Their ANN has been added to the list. There is one more new addition, making it 53 at the moment: [ANN] Minereum - 🔥 MNE STAKING IS LIVE! 1000% REWARDS + 60% REFERRER BONUS 🔥 Minereum ANN was created long time ago, back in 2018, but recently they decided to increase the visibility of their project so they hired bumping group. Accounts that wre working on thier thread are alos active in DSF and SImba, two ANN threads that have been added recently to the list. Same accounts possibly started working on Tranquility Audit Security ANN, but I will wait a bit to see to see what's going on before adding them as well.
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July 16, 2020, 03:33:43 PM |
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You were right, they are obviously using one of those bumping service. Bunch of the accounts that they are using were inactive since October 2019, and then suddenly woke up and started spamming there. Their ANN has been added to the list. There is one more new addition, making it 53 at the moment: [ANN] Minereum - 🔥 MNE STAKING IS LIVE! 1000% REWARDS + 60% REFERRER BONUS 🔥 Minereum ANN was created long time ago, back in 2018, but recently they decided to increase the visibility of their project so they hired bumping group. Accounts that wre working on thier thread are alos active in DSF and SImba, two ANN threads that have been added recently to the list. Same accounts possibly started working on Tranquility Audit Security ANN, but I will wait a bit to see to see what's going on before adding them as well. Some of this accounts should get feedback for using or providing bumping spam services. Minerium is also having self-moderated topic and they have full control.
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July 16, 2020, 03:44:15 PM |
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...zip...
Minereum ANN was created long time ago, back in 2018, but recently they decided to increase the visibility of their project so they hired bumping group.
...zap....
This basically opens a whole new can of worms. If you want to ruin a projects reputation, say they're your competition, just hire a bumping service on their behalf and soon they'll be tagged as cheaters or at least shady. Something to consider anyways
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July 16, 2020, 06:15:52 PM |
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This basically opens a whole new can of worms. If you want to ruin a projects reputation, say they're your competition, just hire a bumping service on their behalf and soon they'll be tagged as cheaters or at least shady. Something to consider anyways
I guess there is a chance for something like that to happen ( highly unlikely imho), but but even then OP can report those spammy posts and mods will delete them, or in case of Minereum he can delete those posts by himself, as their thread is self-moderated, and it seems that he is not doing that. Most of these altcoins are so bad that they don't even need some external enemy, their own incompetence and delusion are more than enough.
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This basically opens a whole new can of worms. If you want to ruin a projects reputation, say they're your competition, just hire a bumping service on their behalf and soon they'll be tagged as cheaters or at least shady. Something to consider anyways
I guess there is a chance for something like that to happen ( highly unlikely imho), but but even then OP can report those spammy posts and mods will delete them, or in case of Minereum he can delete those posts by himself, as their thread is self-moderated, and it seems that he is not doing that. Most of these altcoins are so bad that they don't even need some external enemy, their own incompetence and delusion are more than enough. True, but some of them after being idle for a while all of a sudden have bumps and the OP / creators are nowhere to be seen. Makes you wonder if some large bag holder someplace woke up, looked at a wallet filled with crap coins and thought, it's worth $100. If I dump another $100 into a bumping service I can get the price from BTC0.00000001 to 0.00000025 and make some money back. Also, kind of wonder how many people are like me. Been in this game for a while and have their old favorite crap / junk coin that is worthless now, will be worthless later, but still enjoys playing with it. They make a post or two, and then the scammers / bumpers show up because they see an old cheap coin that they think they can buy & bump and make some money. -Dave
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July 17, 2020, 12:51:22 PM Last edit: July 17, 2020, 02:35:39 PM by Rikafip |
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Makes you wonder if some large bag holder someplace woke up, looked at a wallet filled with crap coins and thought, it's worth $100. If I dump another $100 into a bumping service I can get the price from BTC0.00000001 to 0.00000025 and make some money back.
True, that could happen as well, nothing really can surprise me anymore. In most cases projects hire those "marketing agencies" during ICO/IEO phase to get better ICOBench score or to simply increase visibility here, or in some cases they hire them when they have some big announcement like exchange listing, so they are looking for some extra hype. Good example for that is IndexChain. They did some bumping earlier but they stopped, and now they announced listing soon, so they immediately started with the same practice again and now last few pages of their ANN is swarmed with newbie comments like this: I'm waiting for all their new products))
This team looks very strong in the world of cryptocurrency 💪💪💪 Project will solve really important problems
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Here are a few more threads that deserve to be added to the list. Newbie accounts bumping these threads: Name | Rank | | Date Registered | herve24 | Newbie | | October 31, 2019 | trocginsmadci | Newbie | | January 24, 2018 | steckashutkinl | Newbie | | November 01, 2019 | renpaucanland | Newbie | | January 24, 2018 | baideodysme | Newbie | | January 23, 2018 | reletenta | Newbie | | January 24, 2018 | lkuninbeefpa | Newbie | | January 23, 2018 | shipil1991 | Newbie | | October 28, 2019 | hersplencorre | Newbie | | January 24, 2018 | laigranaren | Newbie | | January 24, 2018 | aparravu2015 | Newbie | | October 26, 2019 |
All these accounts are also active (with the same pattern) in the V SYSTEMS ANN thread (already on the list). And, judging by the timestamp, all of them are under the control of one person.
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July 19, 2020, 02:31:14 PM |
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Here are a few more threads that deserve to be added to the list.
I have decided to wait a bit to see whether they continue with the spamming, and without of doubt they hired bumping servce. As you already connected, accounts used on both of those threads are also working another ANN already inlcuded on the list, V Systems. List updated, COREGROUP and SharRing added to the list! All these accounts are also active (with the same pattern) in the V SYSTEMS ANN thread (already on the list). And, judging by the timestamp, all of them are under the control of one person. Indeed it looks like one person is behind that group of accounts, or at least same person creating all of those accounts. When you see ANN thread that is just starting with thread bumping, it is a good idea to immediately report those spammy posts and who knows, maybe they give up soon, before they spam the shit out of the thread.
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July 24, 2020, 09:48:12 AM |
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One more announcement thread added to the list of those that are using bumping services: 🔥[ANN] IEO starts on July25] [XTK] -Xtake.cash - Universal Blockchain Income 🔥Account used for bumping have a long history of such practice. Before Xtake, they worked on several ANN threads like Goldario, Sensitrust, CryptoParadise, FSM and a few others, showing that it's not a coincidence that those accounts appeared on this thread as well. Beside hiring bumping service, Xtake has few more red flags like organizing IEO without revealing the team, OP of their ANN has been tagged before for shilling/promotion of aa ponzi scheme known as Algo Hedge Fund. All in all, dodgy project that should be avoided by everyone.
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The project that is today placed in Scam Accusations Monolith Whitepaper is Plagiarized Monolith - пepвый pyблeвый cтeйблкoйн Monolith - the first decentralized ruble stablecoin Newbie accounts with a very early registration date. 1. LaraSamr May 08, 2019, 05:36:48 PM 2. tayyaba98311 January 12, 2012, 03:39:37 PM 3. Cayie February 18, 2014, 05:54:16 AM 4. bobdmelton February 21, 2012, 04:02:06 PM 5. GBGglenn November 21, 2013, 07:02:39 PM 6. rampagewsu June 17, 2011, 01:46:22 AM 7. yourshorter July 07, 2011, 11:37:26 PM 8. Tert2012 May 20, 2012, 10:39:53 PM 9. agamimosh March 04, 2019, 09:42:29 PM
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Thanks @lovesmayfamilis, both English and Russian announcement threads have been added to the list. All that negative attention from copied whitepaoerr wasn't enough for them. Instead sorting that out, they decided to go full retard and immediately started using those newbie accounts to promote both of their threads. I see that some account used were tagged years ago for promoting ponzi schemes. Old habits die hard I guess..
One more announcement thread has been added 🌟 [ANN][REAP] ReapChain - Secure and Transparent Blockchain-Based IoT Ecosystem Classic case of thread bumping-recently created accounts writing standard nonsense and fake interest.
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