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It looks like bumping services are more gentle now. They used to spam 5 or more posts a day, now there is less. Or this version of the service has been ordered. Self moderated thread and almost the entire thread are fresh accounts with short and typical comments. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375367.0
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Rickafip, I found a few more candidates to add to your list: The same newbie accounts are bumping all of these threads as the one I mentioned earlier today.
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December 18, 2021, 01:48:47 PM Last edit: December 20, 2021, 10:15:14 PM by Rikafip |
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It looks like bumping services are more gentle now. They used to spam 5 or more posts a day, now there is less. Or this version of the service has been ordered. Self moderated thread and almost the entire thread are fresh accounts with short and typical comments. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375367.0It's probably the latter, their activity depends on the package you buy. At least that's how Vitor Services are doing it, which are by far the biggest thread bumping providers. This is how their packages look like.
Rickafip, I found a few more candidates to add to your list: The same newbie accounts are bumping all of these threads as the one I mentioned earlier today.
Nice work, I will add those threads shortly. By the looks of it, it's yet again before mentioned Vitor Services. Those guys are simply unstoppable, kudos on selling their useless thread bumping. Those buying their services have to be completely clueless on how things work around here as that's the only explanation how they manage to keep on going with this.
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December 18, 2021, 09:47:49 PM |
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After a long day of "report spree" I reported all the spam from the topics mentioned above by FatFork and keyscore44 -- 912 reported posts in total. Whoa Like in old good days. Sadly, I did not have so much time for making reports lately, but I believe I'll have a more free period in next days thus I'll return to my "old habits" that's how Vitor Services are doing it, which are big far the biggest thread bumping providers I see that Vitor Services is still up and running. I'll do again all I can to limit their impact. Nice work, I will add those threads shortly. Rikafip, all the topics mentioned in OP are still active? I'm asking to know on which one to jump next
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After a long day of "report spree" I reported all the spam from the topics mentioned above by FatFork and keyscore44 -- 912 reported posts in total. Whoa Like in old good days. Sadly, I did not have so much time for making reports lately, but I believe I'll have a more free period in next days thus I'll return to my "old habits" One quick off-topic question: when you report such posts to moderators, what do you put under the comment? Is it ok to simply write "shitpostng", or should you give a little more explanation?
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December 19, 2021, 07:37:09 AM |
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One quick off-topic question: when you report such posts to moderators, what do you put under the comment? Is it ok to simply write "shitpostng", or should you give a little more explanation? All my reports are justified by an appropriate comment, reflecting the problem. Basically, based on Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ, I am writing comments like "Breaking rule 2. No off-topic posts." / "Breaking rule 32. Posting multiple posts in a row" and so on. Even for these spam there is a rule - more important, the very first rule of the forum - "1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads". In this case, sometimes I comment the reports with "Breaking rule 1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads" or I simply write "Zero-value post".
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December 19, 2021, 11:48:13 AM |
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You could put something similar to "zero value post, possible bumping service", and that way, you won't have to report every individual post because the whole thread will most likely get trashed. Little tip to save some time
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December 19, 2021, 06:23:16 PM |
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After a long day of "report spree" I reported all the spam from the topics mentioned above by FatFork and keyscore44 -- 912 reported posts in total. Whoa Like in old good days. Sadly, I did not have so much time for making reports lately, but I believe I'll have a more free period in next days thus I'll return to my "old habits" Damn, crazy report spree, good job. Unfortunately it's the same situation with me, not enough time to be as active on the reporting scene as I used to be, especially when I see forum staff unwilling to nuke whole threads that consist of nothing but paid spam. I see that Vitor Services is still up and running. I'll do again all I can to limit their impact.
Yep, those guys are like cockroaches.
You could put something similar to "zero value post, possible bumping service", and that way, you won't have to report every individual post because the whole thread will most likely get trashed. Little tip to save some time Hm, I was never able to get get the whole thread thrashed, unless I reported each and every spam post. And even then, only those paid bump posts were deleted, and not the original post.
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Damn, crazy report spree, good job Hihi, thanks! Unfortunately it's the same situation with me, not enough time to be as active on the reporting scene as I used to be, especially when I see forum staff unwilling to nuke whole threads that consist of nothing but paid spam. Yes, this is sad... this is why we have to do it post by post... Rikafip, I think you missed a question I asked above: Rikafip, all the topics mentioned in OP are still active? I'm asking to know on which one to jump next I want to start working on other threads as well and I need your answer to prioritize them somehow...
You could put something similar to "zero value post, possible bumping service", and that way, you won't have to report every individual post because the whole thread will most likely get trashed. Little tip to save some time If only this would work... As you see in Rikafip's reply as well, this easy method (as any easy methods, generally speaking ) just won't work
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December 19, 2021, 07:13:52 PM |
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Rikafip, I think you missed a question I asked above: Rikafip, all the topics mentioned in OP are still active? I'm asking to know on which one to jump next I want to start working on other threads as well and I need your answer to prioritize them somehow... Ah yes, sorry. All those thread identified by @FatFork were started not longer than 2 weeks ago, so they are probably still live, but from what I can see, all spam posts there have been removed already so I guess someone already did the job. If only this would work... As you see in Rikafip's reply as well, this easy method (as any easy methods, generally speaking ) just won't work Yep, I even created topic in meta about that issue but never got an answer from mods/admins. Someone might say that it could be abused by hiring spammers to competition thread in order to get nuked, but I think even that could be sorted somehow.
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December 20, 2021, 06:13:23 PM |
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-- Hm, I was never able to get get the whole thread thrashed, unless I reported each and every spam post. And even then, only those paid bump posts were deleted, and not the original post.
---- If only this would work... As you see in Rikafip's reply as well, this easy method (as any easy methods, generally speaking ) just won't work Hmmm, that's odd... I've always been under the impression that the threads I reported this way (reporting directly from patrol) were indeed trashed; will have to give it some more testing once I have time to check the patrol page frequently again....
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Hmmm, that's odd... I've always been under the impression that the threads I reported this way (reporting directly from patrol) were indeed trashed; will have to give it some more testing once I have time to check the patrol page frequently again....
You can easily test it out on one of the threads reported by @FatFork few days ago. Yesterday all posts were deleted, but they restarted again today, doing the same thing, and they even spread on new threads like [ANN] 🎮NFTCRAFT.GAME🎮 Play-to-Earn 🔸 with ~150% APY 🔥All NFT backed by ETH🔥 and [Ann] A dog racing game based on RNG technology and built on BSC - DogyRace!. As I said, with current rules (or to be more precise lack of), this is nothing but a whack-a-mole game in which we can't win. Sure, it can be a nice feeling seeing all that crap deleted, but more often than not I end up feeling like Sisyphus.
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December 20, 2021, 07:39:54 PM |
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After another day of hard work, I managed to clean the following threads: 2852 total reported posts today -- Hooray!I took them in order, from 10th page of your topic, then I took the ones from 9th page and now I am on the 8th page. To be honest I never thought I can report so many posts within a day. Fortunately, mods worked together with me, to say so, thus almost all the posts are already deleted (at the moment of writing this I have 400 unhandled posts from the ones reported today). I intend to continue tomorrow and next days as well, take all the topics I found mentioned in your thread, cleaning them one, by one, in the order they were mentioned. Now let's hope I'll also still have time for this Wish me luck!
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December 21, 2021, 12:35:31 AM Last edit: December 25, 2021, 10:08:15 PM by decodx |
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2852 total reported posts today -- Hooray!
Oh my gosh, that's really impressive! I reported a dozen today. But I will keep reporting them so we can keep making a dent.
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Oh my gosh, that's really impressive! I reported a dozen today. Thank you and congrats! Keep reporting, padawan
Today I took care of the following threads: Total reported posts: 706!Indeed, way fewer than yesterday and the day before, but what dragged me down was the thread of [ANN] YFDAI |DEFI|Revolution in Decentralised Finance | Launchpad, which had 58 pages and someone already reported posts from it, thus I had to properly analyze the leftovers. And, as it had 58 pages, it was not an easy job. However, I reported 448 posts within this topic alone. At the moment, about 300 reported posts from today are still unhandled, but nothing to worry about that. Let's hope for a more productive day tomorrow
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December 21, 2021, 07:57:11 PM |
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Total reported posts: 706! Crazy effort, kudos. I've been kinda slacking when it comes to reporting in altcoin board, but can't just passively look you putting so much effort, so gonna reactivate as well! Let's hope for a more productive day tomorrow If we coordinate the efforts, maybe something can be done. From my experience, a lot of projects tend to cancel bumping service if their thread is consistently cleansed from that paid thrash. I doubt that we can run Vitor Services out of the business, but at least we could make their job much easier.
List has been updated with all those threads identified by @FatFork the other day. Keep 'em coming guys!
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I tried doing the test the other day, and I come with a result. I admit I was wrong, but I've also discovered the reason why. I reported a single post in the thread you provided with a similar text to "low value post, likely bumping service". It got of course deleted, but there's a second part to it. If I go check the link on the report history, I see the following: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5377979.msg58778701#msg58778701 according to that, topic ID=5377979 BUT, on the original thread, the one you linked; topic ID=5375199 I don't know exactly where this change comes from, but that explains why I was under the impression that the whole thread got derailed
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Today I took care of the following threads: Total reported posts: 514! Again, fewer than yesterday and the day before, but some of these topics were huge so I had to spend a lot of time to properly see which posts need to be reported. I am now at post #134 of this thread and I'll continue taking the listed topics, one by one, still in backwards order (meaning lattest first). I mean after cleaning the topic mentioned at post 134 I'll go to the one mentioned at post #132 and so on.
Crazy effort, kudos. Haha, thanks! I've been kinda slacking when it comes to reporting in altcoin board, but can't just passively look you putting so much effort, so gonna reactivate as well! Awww stop being a slacker, Rikafip If we coordinate the efforts, maybe something can be done. From my experience, a lot of projects tend to cancel bumping service if their thread is consistently cleansed from that paid thrash. I doubt that we can run Vitor Services out of the business, but at least we could make their job much easier. Uhm, maybe if someone starts cleaning some topics, s/he could mention here on which ones s/he is working...? For example, tomorrow I'll continue with the topics listed on page 7 of this thread. I am at post #134, as I said before, and I'll try to clean all mentioned between posts #121-#134. Now it also depends on each one's style of work... For example, if I start cleaning a topic, I am not doing it so only until I see the spammers stop bumping it (meaning to report only the last posts). When I work on a topic I take all its posts, one by one, from the lattest to the oldest, going though all its pages, until reaching page 1. I am doing this so, as I consider that even though the spammers stop after seeing their last posts are deleted, nevertheless, there are still old spam posts inside that topic, which need to be cleaned as well... List has been updated with all those threads identified by @FatFork the other day. Keep 'em coming guys! Keep them coming!
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If I go check the link on the report history, I see the following: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5377979.msg58778701#msg58778701 according to that, topic ID=5377979 BUT, on the original thread, the one you linked; topic ID=5375199 Weird, when I check topic with 5377979 ID, can't find anything, like it never existed, and it isn't archived either.
Uhm, maybe if someone starts cleaning some topics, s/he could mention here on which ones s/he is working...? For example, tomorrow I'll continue with the topics listed on page 7 of this thread. I am at post #134, as I said before, and I'll try to clean all mentioned between posts #121-#134. Yep, some coordination would be a good idea so we don't waste each others time and report posts that have been already reported. Keep them coming! 3 new threads have been added to the list: NFTCRAFT GAME, Dogyrace and Axes Metaverse. Enjoy!
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If I go check the link on the report history, I see the following: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5377979.msg58778701#msg58778701 according to that, topic ID=5377979 BUT, on the original thread, the one you linked; topic ID=5375199 Weird, when I check topic with 5377979 ID, can't find anything, like it never existed, and it isn't archived either. My reports history shows that the topic ID changes after a report has been handled by a moderator (as long as the report status is "good"). I think this is because posts aren't really deleted, but are moved to a sort of trash can, which is not accessible to regular members. I guess every topic has a corresponding, "shadow" topic ID in the database, which contains deleted posts from that topic.
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