[LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services

[notblox1]

@Rikafip if you can please add topics I found that are using bumping spam services:

First topic is created by zyx_network:
[ANN] ZYX NETWORK - A GROUND-BREAKING POS-BASED PRODUCT FOR A WIDE AUDIENCE  (archive)

Same group is also bumping:
[ANN] tap - Access to crypto trading and banking | Mastercard Approved]
[PHR] PHORE BLOCKCHAIN - Private Decentralized Marketplace & Ecosystem. POS/MN.]
[ANN][SHR] ShareRing - The world's first trusted token for sharing services

Second is many topics created by member Cyberdapps
Satoshi Club x Zelwin AMA  (archive)
Satoshi Club x Statera AMA  (archive)
Satoshi Club x Dext AMA  (archive)
Satoshi Club x BC Game AMA  (archive)
Satoshi Club x CEEK AMA  (archive)
Satoshi Club x Bitbns AMA  (archive)
Satoshi Club x MANTRADAO AMA  (archive)
Satoshi Club x Counos X AMA  (archive)
Satoshi Club x RSK AMA  (archive)
Satoshi Club x Particl AMA  (archive)
Satoshi Club x Stonk AMA  (archive)

Thank you!

[Rikafip]

@Rikafip if you can please add topics I found that are using bumping spam services:

You are right, all those mentioned are indeed using bumping services. I added ZYX NETWORK, tap and PHORE BLOCKCHAIN, while ShareRing was alreeady on the list, I added it few weeks ago.

Regarding  Satoshi Club series of ANN threads, they obviously  used bumping services but from what I could see none of them are active at the moment, so I won't add them on the list for for now (I focused only on those that are active at the time of discovery). I'll keep an eye on them, and if their status changes, they will be added as well.

[notblox1]

@Rikafip if you can please add topics I found that are using bumping spam services:

You are right, all those mentioned are indeed suing bumping services. I added ZYX NETWORK, tap and PHORE BLOCKCHAIN, while ShareRing was alreeady on the list, I added it few weeks ago.

Regarding  Satoshi Club series of ANN threads, they obviously  used bumping services but from what I could see none of them are active at the moment, so I won't add them on the list for for now (I focused only on those that are active at the time of discovery). I'll keep an eye on them, and if their status changes, they will be added as well.

Thank you!
For Satoshi Club ANN, user Cyberdapps is creating new topic all the time.
One example is most recent topic that created 3 days ago and bumped up today:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266607.0
User jpsarma made 3 consecutive posts today in short time and Zygote59 3 before him

[Rikafip]

For Satoshi Club ANN, user Cyberdapps is creating new topic all the time.
One example is most recent topic that created 3 days ago and bumped up today:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266607.0

Are you sure though that those accounts are shilling? I just checked Satoshi Club a bit and it seems that every few days they are promoting new project (for example today they made ANN thread for  Dash so they organize AMA, and choose few questions from the announcement thread (that might be even against forum rules, as it could be seen as giving incentive for writing in ANN thread)
I have to check a bit more to see what's going on there before adding them.

[notblox1]

Are you sure though that those accounts are shilling? I just checked Satoshi Club a bit and it seems that every few days they are promoting new project (for example today they made ANN thread for  Dash so they organize AMA, and choose few questions from the announcement thread (that might be even against forum rules, as it could be seen as giving incentive for writing in ANN thread)
I have to check a bit more to see what's going on there before adding them.

They are using same accounts for asking questions, but I did not dig deeper in telegram so I cant confirm.
Maybe there is some incentive, as they write several consecutive post (later edited or deleted by moderators)

List I made before:

List of members participating in this spam and only posting in Satoshi Club topics:
Jhonathanch
peterter
albert3990
albert3990abc
nyosant
mirsiyanova
Laitarouth1009
Thiyagusmart
bitmartbounty
kiwi206
hieuminh1704
idee002
let098765
KathDM
rachman mahesa
philicrohit
jpsarma
juanes
elissa
bennguyen
iuppik
saner2324
toanphamhd
Patty91
Zygote59
Cryptosats
Dragon_Super
LuisMe7
pubudu92
vicpocho
pedronino
justgata
coinrabbi

We will have the following structure:
Part 1️⃣: $100/6 users- We'll select 6 questions from the community. A user can post maximum 3 questions. 4 Questions will be selected from our website - please submit your questions on our official announcement at this link and 2 random questions will be selected from Bitcointalk thread, please post your questions in this thread.

[Rikafip]

Two new announcement threads has been added to the list making it 64th and 65th so far.

[ANN]🏆 PosBit-Safe and reliable exchange for crypto and main fiat currencies 🏆
Generally it is very suspicious behavior to hire bumping services, and it is even more suspicious when exchange does that, like in Posbit case. They made ANN on August first and basically immediately newbie accounts started with their "work", pretending to be interested and asking those standard redundant questions.


🔵🔵🔵[ANN]🔵 PAYACCEPT- WORLDWIDE PAYMENTS ACCEPTED IN SECONDS! 🔵🔵🔵
PayAccept ANN has been made few months ago, but recently they started with thread bumping. Account used are active in Posbit and several other threads.

[notblox1]

[ANN]🏆 PosBit-Safe and reliable exchange for crypto and main fiat currencies 🏆

They made so many spam comments in only two weeks, mostly from newbie accounts, and now they have 13 pages of that shit in self-moderated topic.
Nobody should trust exchange like this, especially if you see their website and something like this mixed russian/english language:
https://posbit.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/63000135362-kyc-aml

Same members bumping PosBit are also bumping Payccept.

[Rikafip]

Latest addition to the list:

[ANN][Exchange] Unitrade - a DeFi Exchange Platform
As the name says, Unitrade is DeFi platform, build on top of currently very popular Uniswap. They are already trading on several exchanges, but they felt the need to hire one of those bumping services to hype the project further, like there is not enough hype going on around anything defi related. Accounts working on Unitrade are also active on Largo Coin ANN, doing the exactly the same thing.

[Rikafip]

One more project that is using bumping service in order to promote thier announcement thread has been added to the list!

Fetch.ai and Bitfinex announce trading competition and catalyst sale
Fetch.ai has been going on for quite some time, since 2018, so it is not a new and inexperienced project, and they are even listed on some known reputable exchanges like Binance and Bitfinex. With that being said, I must say that i was surprised to see them opting for this kind of dodgy prmotion, where they hired one of those "marketing agencies" as they like to call themselves in order to promote their trading competition and another sale, instead going for some bounty or signature campaign as most of other legit projects do.

Accounts that have been used for bumping Fetch.ai are working on several others threads that are already on the list, like DSF and PayAccept. What people from Fetch.ai (and quite a lot of others from the list) probably don't understand  is that such services don't really care what they promote as long as they get paid, so they will gladly promote scam projecs too, and that can indirectly affect Fetch.ai.

[notblox1]

@Rikafip please consider checking and adding this topic for Free2ex exchange.
It appears they just started using bumping services, same as for Simba and similar topics.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262757.0

[Rikafip]

@Rikafip please consider checking and adding this topic for Free2ex exchange.
It appears they just started using bumping services, same as for Simba and similar topics.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262757.0

Hey @notblox1, first sorry for the late reply, somehow I missed your post.

Regarding Free2ex exchange, you are right, they indeed hired bumping service to promote their announcement thread as accounts use are active on several other threads, doing the same "work" so I added them on the list. Since they only started, If you have some free time, it wouldn't be bad idea to report those posts, they are basically just one-liners and will be deleted  if reported to mods.


That's not all for today, there is another addition

Uncommonn is a platform connecting vendors and customers 
Uncommon recently started thier IEO on Vindax (home of many dodgy IEOs) so they decided to spice up their announcement thread with fake conversations and hype. "Marketing agency" that is doing that for them is not very smart as some of the accounts used are already tagged for the same thing, so what they are actually doing is bringing negative attention to Uncommon.

[Rikafip]

Two new threads have been added to the list:

72. 【ANN】JBOXCOIN - JBOX - Listed 2 Exchange and Airdrop is Live
Announcement thread has been created by a known shill account more than a month ago , but they didn't start with their "work" up until 2 weeks ago, when they realized that thread is not getting attention or traction so they decided to "spice it up" . Accounts used are also (or they were) active in few other threads that are already on the list, like Fetch.ai, ZYX, tap etc.


73. AMEPAY is a fast and secure cryptocurrency-based payments alternative
I've noticed Amepay and suspicious behaviour in their announcement thread some time ago, but somehow I forgot to include them in this list and now it's time to sort that out. Accounts used are also  active ins everal similar threads, like Uncommon, Monolith, IOOX..

[icopress]

73. AMEPAY is a fast and secure cryptocurrency-based payments alternative
I've noticed Amepay and suspicious behaviour in their announcement thread some time ago, but somehow I forgot to include them in this list and now it's time to sort that out. Accounts used are also  active ins everal similar threads, like Uncommon, Monolith, IOOX..

It seems to me that any DT contributor would agree with me that posting only one link to the ANN can only help promote your own thread. In addition, I noticed that you are adding quite a few threads to the list, (no archives, and not flagging OP accounts to protect other users). In your opinion, can DT tag them, relying only on your word?

Also, you can always report a violation to the moderators. There are example's when moderators deleted threads even with 100,000 views. Below I gave an example of how such reports might look, (If you need help creating reports like this, let me know).

Does the thread concern exclusively alts? Or can ANN Bumping related accounts also be published?
Below is an example.

• ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266054.240
• Account OP: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2834123
• Proof: https://archive.is/wip/LiURX

With the help of third parties, "ico bumping services" are used for their flows, which in itself is fraud. As a consequence, forced publications in ANN flows and the false, meaningless feedback. This means that the participants publish 70 - 80% of the messages in the streams of this project in order to get a larger stack. Thus, AMEPAY encourages "paid shill bumping" and creates for itself a fake noise. Below you can clearly see how it looks in reality.

[nutildah]

I don't think its a bad idea to tag bumper accounts if one feels strongly about it... I think it definitely solidifies the case for a tag if the same bumping service was found to have been bumping a scam project in the past. But in general, its the scams that tend to employ these types of services; whether or not the project account deserves a red tag I think should be based on more than simply using bumping services. In most instances it won't be hard to find evidence pointing to a scam -- its good to buffer a rating with additional evidence.

[Rikafip]

In addition, I noticed that you are adding quite a few threads to the list, (no archives, and not flagging OP accounts to protect other users). In your opinion, can DT tag them, relying only on your word?

True, I do add a lot of them and despite that many go unnoticed as unfortunately this bumping scene is still alive and kicking, despite changes in bumping system. I do tag OP of those threads where I have more proof that it is a scam. Regarding archiving, if I ever have to provide an additional proof, I can use 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic).

Also, you can always report a violation to the moderators. There are example's when moderators deleted threads even with 100,000 views. Below I gave an example of how such reports might look, (If you need help creating reports like this, let me know).

Yes I now that mods can delete threads if there is a proof that OP is paying for comments, but afaik, you have to have really strong evidence for that to happen. I report those when I have proof, I usually make post about it in [CLUB] The SpamBusters! Busting rule-breakers constantly and then report to the mods.

Regarding accounts that are used for shilling, as @nutildah pointed it out, I do tag them when there is a strong connection to scam promotion, like in this case I discovered today User NUMAS selling codes for "dirty" BTC with 50% discount. where I tagged all bumping accounts involved. I used to tag them more often (as did others I think) but since those "marketing agencies" as they like to call themselves have unlimited amount of newbie accounts, they simply ditch those and start using new ones. And we are talking about hundreds or maybe even thousands of accounts used.

[icopress]

I don't think its a bad idea to tag bumper accounts if one feels strongly about it... I think it definitely solidifies the case for a tag if the same bumping service was found to have been bumping a scam project in the past.

This is not entirely true, since we do not know who is running the "Bumping services", and we cannot know if their accounts have already received warnings or red flags.

But in general, its the scams that tend to employ these types of services; whether or not the project account deserves a red tag I think should be based on more than simply using bumping services. In most instances it won't be hard to find evidence pointing to a scam -- its good to buffer a rating with additional evidence.

True, I do add a lot of them and despite that many go unnoticed as unfortunately this bumping scene is still alive and kicking, despite changes in bumping system. I do tag OP of those threads where I have more proof that it is a scam. Regarding archiving, if I ever have to provide an additional proof, I can use 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic).

Specifically, you are not allowed to give people any incentive to post insubstantial posts in your threads.

As The Pharmacist once said, it boils down to this: Shitposters write poorly-written posts, Shitposters produce vapid content.

But if you still don't have enough arguments to leave a red tag to the "bump'members" who buy and sell this shit as a service, you can just visit resources like "airdropalert, airdrops_io, etc". You just need to find conditions among the hosted airdrops that do not comply with the bitcointalk rules.

• Go to Bitcointalk and write a valuable comment. Submit the link of your comment. ©Cures Token
• Post a positive message about unification and your Telegram username on this Bitcointalk thread ©Unification
• Comment on the BitcoinTalk post with positive feedback.  ©SNTX

Yes I now that mods can delete threads if there is a proof that OP is paying for comments, but afaik, you have to have really strong evidence for that to happen. I report those when I have proof, I usually make post about it in [CLUB] The SpamBusters! Busting rule-breakers constantly and then report to the mods.

Try sorting threads by number of views and you will see the ratio of posts / views. When I notice that the view-to-post ratio is less than 25/30, I will at least take a closer look at this ANN and see what the abnormal thread activity is based on. You can also leave a message in the thread itself, with a warning for the OP and for the Shitposters.

I mean, if you did a few of these simple things and, in addition to reporting, report it, the moderator will not pass by (at least this is the case in the Russian section). But if you still don't see enough evidence, you can PM me or this thread, then I can dig deeper.

[Rikafip]

I mean, if you did a few of these simple things and, in addition to reporting, report it, the moderator will not pass by (at least this is the case in the Russian section). But if you still don't see enough evidence, you can PM me or this thread, then I can dig deeper.

From my experience, mods really need strong proof to delete topic, at least here in English part of the forum. Thing is, airdrop spam is usually easy as spot as posts are even more redundant than those made by bumping service, and usually there is some proof of posting incentive, whether through airdrop sites, or sometimes they advertise that in their telegram group, like in this example. In those cases, topics usually get deleted.

I noticed earlier today some spammy one liners on the 🔥🔥 [ANN]XTAKE: Universal Blockchain Income ✅✅ [1% DAILY REWARD] 🔥🔥 thread.
At first I thought that  they hired really bad bumping service so I decided  to wait a bit to see how situation develops, but when I checked their Telegram group, what they are actually doing is giving 100 XTK tokens to everyone that leaves a comment on the ANN thread, therefore breaking forum rules.


https://t.me/xtakecash

Ann archived https://archive.fo/ybNxt

Two new threads added:

PrimeBit.com - P2P Exchange Platform for P2P Currencies, up to 200x leverage
Exchange platform that hired bumping service few days ago. Accounts used are also active in several projects that are doing the same thing, among them is one obvious scam, ZYX.

edit: Primebit was removed since they admitted and stopped with that activity.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg55299874#msg55299874


🔥🔥 EGGSBOOK TOKEN - A COMMON CRYPTO-CURRENCY FOR P.O.P. BASED GAME 🔥🔥
Another thread that hired bumpers recently. I've tagged OP of that tread previously for impersonating another bounty management service. All the other threads where accounts are active have been previously added to the list.

[nutildah]

I don't think its a bad idea to tag bumper accounts if one feels strongly about it... I think it definitely solidifies the case for a tag if the same bumping service was found to have been bumping a scam project in the past.

This is not entirely true, since we do not know who is running the "Bumping services", and we cannot know if their accounts have already received warnings or red flags.

Frequently this is the case but sometimes you do know who is running the bumping service. Let me introduce you to Vitor Services. Whats interesting about them is some of their testimonials were written by team members of projects which had hired them here on the forum, so it was easy to trace them to that particular bumping service.

Furthermore, sometimes batches of accounts will overlap from thread to thread; meaning that it is possible to connect which threads have hired the service based on the accounts posting in them. Here is the best way to demonstrate a spam farm, by demonstrating the overlap between threads and the cluster of accounts:

[Altcoin Reviewer]

Another project with bumping services.

ANN BaexDapp - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5278713.0

Moderators should go hardline with projects doing these kinds of spams!

[Rikafip]

Another project with bumping services.

ANN BaexDapp - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5278713.0

You are right, it is an obvious case of thread bumping. Majority of accounts used have been made few years ago and now they suddenly decided to appear on that thread and fake the interest and "working" mostly in that thread. Anyway, thank you for letting me know, Baex Dapp ANN has been added to the list.

Moderators should go hardline with projects doing these kinds of spams!

I agree that we should have stricter rules for this but well, it is what is, we can still reduce that spam by reporting posts as sometimes they get bored of that and give up. It is rare, but it happens.