What China is hiding from us and are they doing it to save their economy?

[BlackFor3st]

As many people think coronavirus is created by China and they did to crush other economy but I don't think that's what they did but some information came to light that gives us some dought about China's action. as far as we know death in China is a total of 3800+ but is it a real number? Did they hide the real numbers to protect their economy? what those pictures tell us!

I will not be surprised if the Chinese government are doing this kind of scenario as I can see that they are doing this to protect their economy but on the other hand it is very unfair also to other governments who not doing something like this. But I am surprised with regards to the numbers because losing 1.1 million users in just a month is a bit too much and 15 million users all together is a huge number if we are going to convert it as an affected persons with covid-19 virus.

But still this data is not yet accurate as this data is base only to cellphone carriers who are losing their users because there are many scenarios why it is happening like the Chinese government banned the use of cellphone in that area due to lock down policies and etc.

[imstillthebest]

great question and geat poll too  .  im also curious on this one and i beieve that is what others are feeling thru right now   .

 my suspection came after reading a blog that states virus were planned before and my suspection became worst when i heard that china was now recovered while others are not   . that is only what i feel , dont take me seriously guys  but if its been planned china cant still do anything much to grow thier economy because lockdowns on other country is still up   .   no stocks can go outside

[abhiseshakana]

Most likely, chinese government is underreporting the total deaths and overestimating the recoveries, but is unlikely that they created the virus, or for that matter that they can save their economy of its aftermath
They are just trying to save face
Chinese gov's geopolitical planning relies in china being ''cheaper'' than the western countries at least 20 years more, if Europe and the USA lose purchase power China is among the first losers, in fact, they likely will devalue the yuan as USA and Europe's monetary stimulus hit the markets

This is all just Chinese propaganda as the savior of the world from covid-19. Repeated reports about China's contribution to WHO and China's role as a global commander in dealing with a pandemic corona.

China precisely Xi Jing Ping really controls the media, to voice the news of justification, not the truth. So there is no news that leads to China's degradation to overcome corona. In addition to the interests of China, President Xi Jing Ping also wants his prestige to remain above the present condition even some vocal officials who voiced China's inability to cope with corona were immediately fired and also replaced by his position in the party.

Xi also silenced and imprisoned his critics, including a real estate tycoon and previously one of the richest and most powerful people in China for publishing articles describing Xi as an emperor who had no clothes and was like a clown.

Many oppositions opposed Xi's policies but were always successfully removed, many internal parties began to doubt the credibility of Xi's policy and operations strategy so that the CCP's political elite movement emerged to depose Xi. The mistrust that arises in one's own environment is more dangerous to destroy Xi from within than an enemy that is clearly categorized as anti-China.

[Cratoon]

Service, hotel, restaurants, cafe, travel business is now on a brink of extinction. I'm thinking China takes time to pull out the stocks at good prices.

[AniviaBtc]

As many people think coronavirus is created by China and they did to crush other economy but I don't think that's what they did but some information came to light that gives us some dought about China's action. as far as we know death in China is a total of 3800+ but is it a real number? Did they hide the real numbers to protect their economy? what those pictures tell us!

I don't understand most of that picture since it is Chinese but I am also starting to be curious how well the Chinese handled the situation in their country. If you will be looking at this list, you could see how China has a lot of people recovered from the virus. Despite them being the origin, the USA and Italy are now topping the list with the most cases. And then Spain buys medical equipment worth 432 million euros from China.

It is really confusing and hard to understand which one is true we will have to wait for the truth to be revel but will we able to find the real story about what happened? I dought it

China is really good at manipulating their economy because most of them value money over everything and they prioritize their financial aspects in their lives. It is impossible that the virus originated from them and still their economy didn't have any changes and is still stable. It seems suspicious that China already had the vaccine because right now, the number of people recovering in their country is still increasing and the number of cases are stable and decreasing. Somehow, it is too obvious that most of our products and goods came from them and they are the no.1 sources of our food, medicines, and etc., that;s why they don't experience market crash. It is more likely that this Covid-19 is a China's plan so that they will affect the economy of US which is their no. 1 competitor in many aspects.

[bittraffic]

I guess China want privacy as much as we want to have privacy as well. Not providing the information is their choice though besides providing the numbers of death are just going to make their people panic and that won't help them.  Their economy still run good base on reports whether this information is true or not, we may never really knew but there are news coming out the Chinese are buying stocks in US and EU.

[nosferzd]

It seems to me that there is some truth in this - China is hiding that this is their doing. After all, China because of the coronavirus sued $ 20 trillion law firm Buzz Photos. According to them, the virus was developed and released from the Institute of Virology in Wuhan.

[Latviand]

I think all this is not excessive, everyone is starting to have prejudice against China.

China is really so suspicious, how come that their economy and stock market is not that affected if the virus originates from them? It is more likely that China planned this happenings around the world, if you're updated, you'll see that the number of recoveries in their country is greater than the cases as of now.

We are not directly blaming China for this virus, but if they have already created the vaccine, they should immediately make an announcement and inform all of the people around the world. It is not impossible for other people to have a prejudice against China if they are still not giving us some information how they can manage this Covid-19 virus in their country.  

China will do anything to save their faces. Oh no, I was reminded of a video of a young man from Wuhan who revealed how bad the China government was in handling the situation when the virus began to spread.

I don't believe with that, If you heard the news that the China built an emergency hospital in just 10 days, how is it even possible if China government wasn't handling the situation properly? Maybe that depends on the hospital or the attitude of the healthcare providers who handled them inside the hospital that's why he made the conclusion about their government not doing anything to help is countrymen. The 645,000-square-foot makeshift medical facility is not that easy to build but due to China's effective response to the outbreak, they made a way. The only thing here is that the China didn't inform us how they recovered a lot of patients immediately.

[exstasie]

And by the way, it drives me up a wall whenever Trump refers to coronavirus as "the Chinese virus".  If he knows something the rest of us don't, he should just spit it out.  It puts unnecessary blame on a country that most likely didn't intend to be ground zero for the outbreak.

He's just using the Chinese as a political tool. It's how conservative hawks build popular support, by fabricating foreign enemies the population needs to be protected from.

A new study actually suggests the corona virus may not have originated in China: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3077442/coronavirus-pathogen-could-have-been-spreading-humans-decades

[mu_enrico]

If we talk about the data from China, I would say it is questionable because even South Korea (+125) --a country that has equal experience dealing with SARS 1.0-- reported more new infected patients than China (+79). https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

However, It doesn't mean it is some kind of conspiracy. More likely because they just didn't do enough testing.

[amishmanish]

If we talk about the data from China, I would say it is questionable because even South Korea (+125) --a country that has equal experience dealing with SARS 1.0-- reported more new infected patients than China (+79). https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

However, It doesn't mean it is some kind of conspiracy. More likely because they just didn't do enough testing.

It may not be a conspiracy but it can surely be a fuck-up while exploring about some sort of strategic advantage from bio-attacks. I don't think the Chinese are above these things. After the fuck-up, the spread issue has been real for them. They are a communist country along the lines of Soviet Russia. Haven't we all seen enough Chernobyl on Amazon Prime to see the parallels about "Everything is right here"? They have claimed all sort of things from the beginning and now they are declaring to the world that they are infection-free, by ignoring the cases that test positive but are asymptomatic.

[ololajulo]

This conspiracy theory needs to be carefully managed on the social media, though it looks like China is taking advantage of early recovery from the pandemic. Everything points to the country, from the low level of the so called 'collateral damage', early resumption of trade/market and war against Donald Trump. I am avoiding every discussion in the line but I am looking at the opportunity the crypto space can take from the crisis to gain more adoption and have a high price at the next bull market.

[naaimmd]

If we talk about the data from China, I would say it is questionable because even South Korea (+125) --a country that has equal experience dealing with SARS 1.0-- reported more new infected patients than China (+79). https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

However, It doesn't mean it is some kind of conspiracy. More likely because they just didn't do enough testing.

they hid real number because they don"t wants their people fear it and to save there economy from dropping now they are making money while other countries in lockdown.

[naaimmd]

If we talk about the data from China, I would say it is questionable because even South Korea (+125) --a country that has equal experience dealing with SARS 1.0-- reported more new infected patients than China (+79). https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

However, It doesn't mean it is some kind of conspiracy. More likely because they just didn't do enough testing.

It may not be a conspiracy but it can surely be a fuck-up while exploring about some sort of strategic advantage from bio-attacks. I don't think the Chinese are above these things. After the fuck-up, the spread issue has been real for them. They are a communist country along the lines of Soviet Russia. Haven't we all seen enough Chernobyl on Amazon Prime to see the parallels about "Everything is right here"? They have claimed all sort of things from the beginning and now they are declaring to the world that they are infection-free, by ignoring the cases that test positive but are asymptomatic.

I have heard about the Chernobyl incident and I haven't watched series yet but I will watch soon. As for bio-attack, we are not sure yet let's hope it's not bio-attack.

[naaimmd]

This conspiracy theory needs to be carefully managed on the social media, though it looks like China is taking advantage of early recovery from the pandemic. Everything points to the country, from the low level of the so called 'collateral damage', early resumption of trade/market and war against Donald Trump. I am avoiding every discussion in the line but I am looking at the opportunity the crypto space can take from the crisis to gain more adoption and have a high price at the next bull market.

well for media its hot topic to gain popularity more conspiracy theory with solid points give everyone doubt and people look for more update which gives them an opportunity to earn money and crypto is rising in this crisis making the high chance that government will recognize more but if crypto falls when crisis over it will not look good for crypto so I hope crypto stay stable.

[enhu]

This conspiracy theory needs to be carefully managed on the social media, though it looks like China is taking advantage of early recovery from the pandemic. Everything points to the country, from the low level of the so called 'collateral damage', early resumption of trade/market and war against Donald Trump. I am avoiding every discussion in the line but I am looking at the opportunity the crypto space can take from the crisis to gain more adoption and have a high price at the next bull market.

well for media its hot topic to gain popularity more conspiracy theory with solid points give everyone doubt and people look for more update which gives them an opportunity to earn money and crypto is rising in this crisis making the high chance that government will recognize more but if crypto falls when crisis over it will not look good for crypto so I hope crypto stay stable.

Cryptocurrency market looks stable so it must be stable.

Social media isn't moderated, they may have fact checker to the news coming out in social media but I think its only to the country they wanna control the news. If you have read because feed of Chinese conspiracy theory came onto your page then, you were targeted for you to think China created the virus deliberately for their benefit. The truth is that regular people like us can't verify anything that's coming even the news on TV are controlled by big businesses.

[FanatMonet]

It is possible that the Chinese government is just quietly buying up stocks on stock exchanges in order to prevent collapse, and this helps their economy, there are no other explanations for this situation, when everything falls and I grow China.

[Gyfts]

It's more of the fact that China wants to prop up their communist regime through propaganda. It's clear they were lying about their numbers once they pushed out all journalists from their country. There were reports of single funeral homes giving out upwards of 500 individual cremated remains in Wuhan with other funeral homes giving out similar numbers. The number of 3k deaths is garbage.

[mu_enrico]

I have heard about the Chernobyl incident and I haven't watched series yet but I will watch soon.

It's a different case, Chernobyl was a nuclear reactor failure.

they hid real number because they don"t wants their people fear it and to save there economy from dropping now they are making money while other countries in lockdown.

I think it's more to save their asses from sanctions and UN intervention (about closing their wild animal markets).

It may not be a conspiracy but it can surely be a fuck-up while exploring about some sort of strategic advantage from bio-attacks.

But scientists have predicted this event would occur. We can find a lot of SARS 1.0 paper stating similar statements.

What we learn is that:
- China didn't learn from SARS 1.0;
- China didn't take the SARS 2.0 seriously;
- China doesn't want to take responsibility.

I don't think there is financial benefit on top of this pandemic, since all markets are connected.

[pawanjain]

We can't guarantee that China is saying the truth. Nobody knows the actual truth and hence nobody can say if China is behind this or not.
Talking about personal opinions, I think that Yes China must be faking the numbers because I saw in the news that more than 50K cell phone numbers have gone dormant recently which obviously gives us doubts about China faking the numbers. Beijing not having even a single Covid-19 case is another reason why I think China must be behind this. Also, China has been recovering too soon which makes me think if they really have the vaccine.
May be China planned all of this or may be not but it surely did start from China and it shouldn't have. We should never forgive China for this.