What China is hiding from us and are they doing it to save their economy?

[naaimmd]

As many people think coronavirus is created by China and they did to crush other economy but I don't think that's what they did but some information came to light that gives us some dought about China's action. as far as we know death in China is a total of 3800+ but is it a real number? Did they hide the real numbers to protect their economy? what those pictures tell us!

[rayhanazad]

As many people think coronavirus is created by China and they did to crush other economy but I don't think that's what they did but some information came to light that gives us some dought about China's action. as far as we know death in China is a total of 3800+ but is it a real number? Did they hide the real numbers to protect their economy? what those pictures tell us!

well it's hard to say but it's really confusing since China are recovering very fast and they're stock market still good and other are collapsing

[FlightyPouch]

As many people think coronavirus is created by China and they did to crush other economy but I don't think that's what they did but some information came to light that gives us some dought about China's action. as far as we know death in China is a total of 3800+ but is it a real number? Did they hide the real numbers to protect their economy? what those pictures tell us!

I don't understand most of that picture since it is Chinese but I am also starting to be curious how well the Chinese handled the situation in their country. If you will be looking at this list, you could see how China has a lot of people recovered from the virus. Despite them being the origin, the USA and Italy are now topping the list with the most cases. And then Spain buys medical equipment worth 432 million euros from China.

[naaimmd]

As many people think coronavirus is created by China and they did to crush other economy but I don't think that's what they did but some information came to light that gives us some dought about China's action. as far as we know death in China is a total of 3800+ but is it a real number? Did they hide the real numbers to protect their economy? what those pictures tell us!

I don't understand most of that picture since it is Chinese but I am also starting to be curious how well the Chinese handled the situation in their country. If you will be looking at this list, you could see how China has a lot of people recovered from the virus. Despite them being the origin, the USA and Italy are now topping the list with the most cases. And then Spain buys medical equipment worth 432 million euros from China.

It is really confusing and hard to understand which one is true we will have to wait for the truth to be revel but will we able to find the real story about what happened? I dought it

[jacafbiz]

Quality data out of China has always being an issue even with their GDP because of most the information there is centrally controlled. I don't want to argue about the number of mortality because those that are gone are gone, what we need now is a permanent cure for the drug, there are a lot of politics going on now. I get the big corporation wants to profit from the pandemics, if indeed the Choroquine drug works then this is not fear  to the masses. I have read and seen videos of those that are treated with Cloroquine and the other drug and they get well.

[LeGaulois]

We can't trust anything China says, Santa Claus isn't real. Any information is almost impossible to verify and we can't count on them to be transparent. They try to save their face, see how currently they try to look like the model to follow in managing the crisis, while they lied to us before, lol
Everything else giving a bad image of the country, you can see the Chinese dictatorship censoring the media.

Now what they need is the economy to pick up, the factories to start working again, for people to go back to work. And if they need to lie to the world to make it happen they won't hesitate



What China is hiding from us is surely the same reason, trying to save the face to look like the good boy

And then Spain buys medical equipment worth 432 million euros from China.[/url]

Not working equipment by the way. Spain is forced to order again in extreme urgency.
Well, China products are usually shit and it doesn't change

[rayhanazad]

We can't trust anything China says, Santa Claus isn't real. Any information is almost impossible to verify and we can't count on them to be transparent. They try to save their face, see how currently they try to look like the model to follow in managing the crisis, while they lied to us before, lol
Everything else giving a bad image of the country, you can see the Chinese dictatorship censoring the media.

Now what they need is the economy to pick up, the factories to start working again, for people to go back to work. And if they need to lie to the world to make it happen they won't hesitate



What China is hiding from us is surely the same reason, trying to save the face to look like the good boy

And then Spain buys medical equipment worth 432 million euros from China.[/url]

Not working equipment by the way. Spain is forced to order again in extreme urgency.
Well, China products are usually shit and it doesn't change

yes i don't like Chinese products because they don't last at all

[rayhanazad]

Quality data out of China has always being an issue even with their GDP because of most the information there is centrally controlled. I don't want to argue about the number of mortality because those that are gone are gone, what we need now is a permanent cure for the drug, there are a lot of politics going on now. I get the big corporation wants to profit from the pandemics, if indeed the Choroquine drug works then this is not fear  to the masses. I have read and seen videos of those that are treated with Cloroquine and the other drug and they get well.

Yes they're making money from this crisis but main problem they're equipment is bad quality i don't know if because of that how many people will die

[mersal]

I am not sure what is written on the chart, is it number of data user or amount of data used?
Possibly they can hide the actual numbers but they can't hide if millions of people are missing from China so they are good in treating their corona pateints since they already found medicines before spreading it to community.

[shushu9977]

Some information and experts say that China created the corona virus (Covid-19). And they also hide orginal number of dead people. How many people dead in covid-19, they are not publish exactly? I think that they are also doing it to save their economic condition.   

[zabizana]

I think all this is not excessive, everyone is starting to have prejudice against China.

China will do anything to save their faces. Oh no, I was reminded of a video of a young man from Wuhan who revealed how bad the China government was in handling the situation when the virus began to spread.

[Blackdeath]

Some information and experts say that China created the corona virus (Covid-19). And they also hide orginal number of dead people. How many people dead in covid-19, they are not publish exactly? I think that they are also doing it to save their economic condition.   

The chinese government is really afraid to show the full details about the real reason how the virus created and spreads all over the world because everyone will put the blame on the chinese people. But we should not care about it because all we need to do is to take care of ourselves and support all of front liners to cure the virus.

[naaimmd]

Given the fact that they've hide the truth about a virus outbreak in Wuhan. Is more enough reason to suspect them about hiding the real death toll in mainland and other states.
In fact trump said in his statements that "China is hiding the real numbers" in my opinion their only doing this to save themselves and their economy and not for the people.

When virus spread in Wuhan China didn't let reporters to new real situation and sadly because of their serious work on lockdown they have already recovered fast and since they hide the real number of dead people really didn't take it seriously and many people didn't think that it will attack them as well. if we have prepared when it attack Wuhan maybe the current situation would be different. And right now many conspiracy theories going on one person said coronavirus is a normal virus and people who have died because they have other diseases and bad immune system don't know which one is true.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

With not much else to do, I watched a Youtube video documenting life in China lately and it seems pretty obvious their government is in the business of information control--they all are, but the extent seemed to be like communist Russia or N. Korea.  Not surprising, and I pretty much figured it was like that in China.  So as far as what they're hiding from the world, it could be anything.

I don't think China manufactured this strain of coronavirus, however.  Their motivation for doing so would be iffy at best, and I would suggest that viral outbreaks can start anywhere.  This time it just happened to be China. 

And by the way, it drives me up a wall whenever Trump refers to coronavirus as "the Chinese virus".  If he knows something the rest of us don't, he should just spit it out.  It puts unnecessary blame on a country that most likely didn't intend to be ground zero for the outbreak.

[naaimmd]

With not much else to do, I watched a Youtube video documenting life in China lately and it seems pretty obvious their government is in the business of information control--they all are, but the extent seemed to be like communist Russia or N. Korea.  Not surprising, and I pretty much figured it was like that in China.  So as far as what they're hiding from the world, it could be anything.

I don't think China manufactured this strain of coronavirus, however.  Their motivation for doing so would be iffy at best, and I would suggest that viral outbreaks can start anywhere.  This time it just happened to be China. 

And by the way, it drives me up a wall whenever Trump refers to coronavirus as "the Chinese virus".  If he knows something the rest of us don't, he should just spit it out.  It puts unnecessary blame on a country that most likely didn't intend to be ground zero for the outbreak.

I also think coronavirus wasn't made in China if we look last 20-year chart we can have been affected by at least 14 virus so it's clear this might be another outbreak like those and if we look at history we can see every century like 1820,1920 was also affected by virus. As for China controlling people, I saw one video that they were acting like they where on a war and they didn't let any single affected people leave from lockdown or affected area and they really managed to contain it and they hid real number because they didn't want their economy collapse because of fear of this virus.

[mu_enrico]

Well, it's from China, but it doesn't mean that they purposely made it. Biological weapons are banned since the 70's simply because you can't make friends with a disease with no brain. It will attack anyone with no exception.

This pandemic/outbreak was predicted a long time ago. People just don't learn:

The outbreak of SARS was a big lesson and challenge to Hong Kong, and probably for the world as well. Almost instantaneously the medical services in Hong Kong were under a threat of collapse. Hong Kong has been given an abrupt wake-up call to find that the whole medical system was ill prepared for a major outbreak of infectious disease. While the story of SARS is still evolving, scientists are already predicting possible outbreaks of other more virulent and contagious diseases in the near future. In this new atmosphere, many challenges and ethical issues will surface in the field of psychogeriatrics in Hong Kong, and elsewhere.

Chiu et al. (2003) https://sci-hub.tw/10.1002/gps.1003

Guess what, now SARS 2.0 wreak havoc in many countries.

China is the producer of many stuff, so they need customers to sell their products. At this moment, they will severely get hit in terms of economy, just like any other big producers.

[el kaka22]

Even if they are hiding the real number, they are probably doing it so that people would still buy stuff from china and not because they created it. People keep thinking that china (even if they are bad government with a dictator) could release something that would hurt themselves, they are evil but they are not idiots, if they wanted to release a virus to the world they would start with other nations first and help them out.

What they are doing with these test kits they are sending for example is a prime example of them trying to get people to use Chinese stuff again, would you buy an Chinese knock off right now? Any product? However everyone would want test kits, they would want protective equipment as well, so they are trying to keep that "here buy these now, keep buying other stuff later" thing going.

[Gozie51]

Even if they are hiding the real number, they are probably doing it so that people would still buy stuff from china and not because they created it. People keep thinking that china (even if they are bad government with a dictator) could release something that would hurt themselves, they are evil but they are not idiots, if they wanted to release a virus to the world they would start with other nations first and help them out.

This also keep creating anxiety in my mind as to whether China would be able to take the life of there citizens because of a selfish interest or goal. Whatever the case will be, I believe it will soon be in the public domain for everybody to see.

[Elpeor00]

Most likely, chinese government is underreporting the total deaths and overestimating the recoveries, but is unlikely that they created the virus, or for that matter that they can save their economy of its aftermath
They are just trying to save face
Chinese gov's geopolitical planning relies in china being ''cheaper'' than the western countries at least 20 years more, if Europe and the USA lose purchase power China is among the first losers, in fact, they likely will devalue the yuan as USA and Europe's monetary stimulus hit the markets

[MCobian]

I also think that there is something odd about this corona virus, because now it is increasingly seen that China has benefited
from such conditions this. Their economy is still stable, even they sell medical equipment related to the corona virus to several
countries. And very fast country China is recovering from the corona virus tragedy. This is just my hunch without proof, so it is
not certain that China is involved in this matter.