What China is hiding from us and are they doing it to save their economy?

[exstasie]

If we talk about the data from China, I would say it is questionable because even South Korea (+125) --a country that has equal experience dealing with SARS 1.0-- reported more new infected patients than China (+79). https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

However, It doesn't mean it is some kind of conspiracy. More likely because they just didn't do enough testing.

Conspiracy theories aside, one thing we know for sure is China hasn't been including asymptomatic cases in its confirmed totals. The CDC currently thinks asymptomatic cases represent up to 25% of all cases. Some models say even more.

The Chinese government announced that starting today they would include asymptomatic cases in the official count: https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/31/asia/china-asymptomatic-coronavirus-cases/index.html

So we could start seeing higher numbers coming out of China again. I'm curious how the markets will respond if so. A lot of the current buoyancy in the stock markets is hinging on a strong Chinese recovery.

[Subbir]

If we talk about the data from China, I would say it is questionable because even South Korea (+125) --a country that has equal experience dealing with SARS 1.0-- reported more new infected patients than China (+79). https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

However, It doesn't mean it is some kind of conspiracy. More likely because they just didn't do enough testing.

they hid real number because they don"t wants their people fear it and to save there economy from dropping now they are making money while other countries in lockdown.

You are right that they kept the first information secret but they weren't ready to make money. they need not been ready to fully control the coronavirus yet China is emerging again 31 people were attacked during a single day. China's lockdown hasn't opened yet Everything is off.

[panganib999]

As many people think coronavirus is created by China and they did to crush other economy but I don't think that's what they did but some information came to light that gives us some dought about China's action. as far as we know death in China is a total of 3800+ but is it a real number? Did they hide the real numbers to protect their economy? what those pictures tell us!

I don't understand most of that picture since it is Chinese but I am also starting to be curious how well the Chinese handled the situation in their country. If you will be looking at this list, you could see how China has a lot of people recovered from the virus. Despite them being the origin, the USA and Italy are now topping the list with the most cases. And then Spain buys medical equipment worth 432 million euros from China.

It is really confusing and hard to understand which one is true we will have to wait for the truth to be revel but will we able to find the real story about what happened? I dought it

China is really good at manipulating their economy because most of them value money over everything and they prioritize their financial aspects in their lives. It is impossible that the virus originated from them and still their economy didn't have any changes and is still stable. It seems suspicious that China already had the vaccine because right now, the number of people recovering in their country is still increasing and the number of cases are stable and decreasing. Somehow, it is too obvious that most of our products and goods came from them and they are the no.1 sources of our food, medicines, and etc., that;s why they don't experience market crash. It is more likely that this Covid-19 is a China's plan so that they will affect the economy of US which is their no. 1 competitor in many aspects.

Yes, good point. I remembered my Chinese Boss when the quarantine is not yet imposed, he told us that we should not believe what their government or tv news saying because some of it were just covered up to their plans or mistakes. He did mentioned that there are a lot of dirty things happening on their country, so when I heard that I read some articles and found out this suspicious article released by one of the highest rank on their team which was on mission for covid-19, he tell there that the virus was just a made up plan of china. This is hard to believe but anything could be possible either negative or positive. Also China is now the country that has a lot of recovered patients thinking that the virus is originated there, they also provide the number of deaths but I'm thinking that they are manipulating us about this data. Also they are now selling vaccines to different countries which helps them to prevent or fight the virus. Well, i don't know what is the truth about these stuff, whatever it is, time will reveal it.

[mu_enrico]

Conspiracy theories aside, one thing we know for sure is China hasn't been including asymptomatic cases in its confirmed totals. The CDC currently thinks asymptomatic cases represent up to 25% of all cases. Some models say even more.

The Chinese government announced that starting today they would include asymptomatic cases in the official count: https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/31/asia/china-asymptomatic-coronavirus-cases/index.html

WTF, so they have been cheating all this time... No wonder the data is so abnormal. If they can do this kind of manipulation, maybe they even did the test only for patients with symptoms. This incompetence could cause so many carriers have been roaming freely on the streets.

[naaimmd]

I have heard about the Chernobyl incident and I haven't watched series yet but I will watch soon.

It's a different case, Chernobyl was a nuclear reactor failure.

they hid real number because they don"t wants their people fear it and to save there economy from dropping now they are making money while other countries in lockdown.

I think it's more to save their asses from sanctions and UN intervention (about closing their wild animal markets).

It may not be a conspiracy but it can surely be a fuck-up while exploring about some sort of strategic advantage from bio-attacks.

But scientists have predicted this event would occur. We can find a lot of SARS 1.0 paper stating similar statements.

What we learn is that:
- China didn't learn from SARS 1.0;
- China didn't take the SARS 2.0 seriously;
- China doesn't want to take responsibility.

I don't think there is financial benefit on top of this pandemic, since all markets are connected.

 here I fund news here they're saying that in Wuhan coronavirus death count of approximately 2,500 deaths to date, with most people believing the actual number is at least 40,000. this tells cina are not really telling us real number  and maybe we will never know how many died.

[naaimmd]

Conspiracy theories aside, one thing we know for sure is China hasn't been including asymptomatic cases in its confirmed totals. The CDC currently thinks asymptomatic cases represent up to 25% of all cases. Some models say even more.

The Chinese government announced that starting today they would include asymptomatic cases in the official count: https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/31/asia/china-asymptomatic-coronavirus-cases/index.html

WTF, so they have been cheating all this time... No wonder the data is so abnormal. If they can do this kind of manipulation, maybe they even did the test only for patients with symptoms. This incompetence could cause so many carriers have been roaming freely on the streets.

because of that now the whole world in this crisis and going through the economy fall which will leave a huge number of people jobless and crime will rise again.

[naaimmd]

As many people think coronavirus is created by China and they did to crush other economy but I don't think that's what they did but some information came to light that gives us some dought about China's action. as far as we know death in China is a total of 3800+ but is it a real number? Did they hide the real numbers to protect their economy? what those pictures tell us!

I don't understand most of that picture since it is Chinese but I am also starting to be curious how well the Chinese handled the situation in their country. If you will be looking at this list, you could see how China has a lot of people recovered from the virus. Despite them being the origin, the USA and Italy are now topping the list with the most cases. And then Spain buys medical equipment worth 432 million euros from China.

It is really confusing and hard to understand which one is true we will have to wait for the truth to be revel but will we able to find the real story about what happened? I dought it

China is really good at manipulating their economy because most of them value money over everything and they prioritize their financial aspects in their lives. It is impossible that the virus originated from them and still their economy didn't have any changes and is still stable. It seems suspicious that China already had the vaccine because right now, the number of people recovering in their country is still increasing and the number of cases are stable and decreasing. Somehow, it is too obvious that most of our products and goods came from them and they are the no.1 sources of our food, medicines, and etc., that;s why they don't experience market crash. It is more likely that this Covid-19 is a China's plan so that they will affect the economy of US which is their no. 1 competitor in many aspects.

Yes, good point. I remembered my Chinese Boss when the quarantine is not yet imposed, he told us that we should not believe what their government or tv news saying because some of it were just covered up to their plans or mistakes. He did mentioned that there are a lot of dirty things happening on their country, so when I heard that I read some articles and found out this suspicious article released by one of the highest rank on their team which was on mission for covid-19, he tell there that the virus was just a made up plan of china. This is hard to believe but anything could be possible either negative or positive. Also China is now the country that has a lot of recovered patients thinking that the virus is originated there, they also provide the number of deaths but I'm thinking that they are manipulating us about this data. Also they are now selling vaccines to different countries which helps them to prevent or fight the virus. Well, i don't know what is the truth about these stuff, whatever it is, time will reveal it.

well I know it's really hard to guess which one is true but there is many theory going on and China is really good at hiding the truth so maybe we will never know the truth about what really happened.

[ololajulo]

It is possible that the Chinese government is just quietly buying up stocks on stock exchanges in order to prevent collapse, and this helps their economy, there are no other explanations for this situation, when everything falls and I grow China.

Chinese were not that involve in the sell of cryptocurrency in March dump, they didn't need money cause all necessities were delivered to their doorstep and at the time of sell off they were already under lockdown, however, Wuhan was the only community hit so hard with 11 million population, a population similar to New York city (18 million). Am also afraid the wealth traded in the space could also be acquired in Asia at the time

[cotton ball]

After corona virus attack United State now both countries look friendly and forget about how war market economic before both them, now China try to help United State how to improved and get back United State people from corona virus attack.

[mdgabrielzim]

To imagine that a country would kill its own population for money is very bizarre. This virus in my opinion is more linked to a lack of social structure than to an economic plan.

[naaimmd]

After corona virus attack United State now both countries look friendly and forget about how war market economic before both them, now China try to help United State how to improved and get back United State people from corona virus attack.

that's good for both countries and I saw in news American scientists telling coronavirus is not boi-weapon is a natural disease and its been with us long time coronavirus changed and become dangerous recently and I hope this report is true. stay safe everyone and if possible help those who are suffering most in this crisis.

[naaimmd]

To imagine that a country would kill its own population for money is very bizarre. This virus in my opinion is more linked to a lack of social structure than to an economic plan.

I think that too but there are people are fighting about it and everyday new information coming in light and it's making it more complicated.

[ReiMomo]

Just friendly advice, you can edit your post reply in at once and don't make double replies in one row. Because it looks like you are spamming your own thread. And this is also a part of forum rules.

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I hope it makes sense now.

Back to your topic, I don't who is going to blame about this pandemic virus that was made by China, people there? Or maybe they are also a victim here. We don't know the real reason behind the scene who is manipulating and cheating but let just assume that it is a calamity and we are all victims on this COVID-19 that keep spreading. There is hiding or none, we should secure of self and stay safe of the sid decease.
China's government is very clever when it comes to the economy but we can't accuse them right at this moment.

[naaimmd]

Just friendly advice, you can edit your post reply in at once and don't make double replies in one row. Because it looks like you are spamming your own thread. And this is also a part of forum rules.

32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.

I hope it makes sense now.

Back to your topic, I don't who is going to blame about this pandemic virus that was made by China, people there? Or maybe they are also a victim here. We don't know the real reason behind the scene who is manipulating and cheating but let just assume that it is a calamity and we are all victims on this COVID-19 that keep spreading. There is hiding or none, we should secure of self and stay safe of the sid decease.
China's government is very clever when it comes to the economy but we can't accuse them right at this moment.

agree we should stop putting blame on others and work on to help people those need in this situation and save ourselves and our family right now all we can do stay home and that's how we fight coronavirus. lets all work together for the sake of humanity and we shouldn't treat badly any animal.

[Findingnemo]

Possibly they can because they never accepted the trust initially when corona was found and even the doctor who found the infection first is no more now so there is something behind this COVID 19. Whatever the reason could be but people are getting affected all over the world but in China, the real-life is coming slowly so they are doing better compared to other countries.If they can do now then other countries also will follow the same and save their economy as well.

[bitbunnny]

We can't guarantee that China is saying the truth. Nobody knows the actual truth and hence nobody can say if China is behind this or not.
Talking about personal opinions, I think that Yes China must be faking the numbers because I saw in the news that more than 50K cell phone numbers have gone dormant recently which obviously gives us doubts about China faking the numbers. Beijing not having even a single Covid-19 case is another reason why I think China must be behind this. Also, China has been recovering too soon which makes me think if they really have the vaccine.
May be China planned all of this or may be not but it surely did start from China and it shouldn't have. We should never forgive China for this.

I'm not so.sure that China is to blame because of everything. Yes, they maybe aren't telling the whole truth but which country is? When it comes to situations like we have now every country is hidiing something.
Also, there are some theories that China is victim in the whole situation and that virus was actually planted to them.
I don't support conspiracy theories and I'm not taking anyone's side here but the medal  always has two sides.

[fiulpro]

There is a funny thing happening in many countries .
In countries like UK they are going to be adoption heard immunity , allowing people to be infected so that they will be able to work properly .
In many developing countries like Ukraine , doctors are being advised to decrease the number of cases they are receiving and the administration is so strict with it that no one knows except for the people in the medicine sector , they are ignoring the people who have mild symptoms. Telling them they are healthy and the rates are very very high but on the boards it is not.

[Indymoney]

To imagine that a country would kill its own population for money is very bizarre. This virus in my opinion is more linked to a lack of social structure than to an economic plan.

I think that too but there are people are fighting about it and everyday new information coming in light and it's making it more complicated.

Right now no one can provide any solide information about his all because we have really conspriancy behind this all but in near future all will appear and then world will watch what happen because I watch few videos which are saying this all done by uncle sam but we have no solide proof about this best thing stay home stay safe.

[tbterryboy]

As many people think coronavirus is created by China and they did to crush other economy but I don't think that's what they did but some information came to light that gives us some dought about China's action. as far as we know death in China is a total of 3800+ but is it a real number? Did they hide the real numbers to protect their economy?

I don’t know about this, but have you tried to check the number of active cases and the number that has recovered?
The number of recovery seems to be very high compared to other countries. And the cases have not been much (not that I wish).

Another thing is that they were even selling fake Tests kits to the world, does that mean they want the virus to keep spreading around the world? Another thing you have to consider is why they rejected offers to help them at first? I can go on for long to keep mentioning a lot of things they have done that makes everything to seem suspicious.

[Emitdama]

No way China would prepare something like this, corona is a virus, it is not a biological weapon. Plus china was doing quite alright before all of this started, why would they need to release a virus to the world?

I mean they were churning up profits like crazy and even with the trade disagreements and all the things going on they literally had TRILLIONS of dollars in bank accounts and they were basically buying up stuff all around the world. No way they would want to risk that, now they have to give a break and take care of this virus first and then they can come back, this doesn't only hurt on their land, it hurts other places as well, so it is quite unprofitable for them in every step of the way. If china wasn't doing so well and this helped them I would have understood, but its not like that.