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Volatility can be exploited as long as it is in Hodl mode most of the time, when you take a speculative attitude in the market, you should go in the trend line that the market is going, if there is a previous investment and due to volatility price rises is at that time where you can take profit, some use the margin mode to win, although everyone has their own way of trading. In my case, the liquidations that usually occur in Bitmex, you can see many times the use of multiple bots that buy contracts for 1USD, and this somehow produces volume, when liquidations of 100x, 50x occur, many times the opposite candle occurs In that way I have sometimes been lucky, but it is almost like gambling, it is difficult to detect it.
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May 13, 2020, 06:23:04 PM |
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I think this the strategy enables the trader to profit from the underlying price change direction, thus the trader expects volatility to increase. For example, suppose a trader buys a call and a put option on a stock with a strike price of $1000 and time to maturity of three months then i will make profit from it. High volatility means that a stock's price moves a lot. Even if you were the best trader in the world, you would never make any profit on a stock with a constant price. In the long term, volatility is good for traders because it gives them opportunities.
Volatility gives indeed opportunities, only question always is: at what price should you buy and what price should you sell? Buy low and sell high is nice in theory, but difficult in real life. In march, I bought BTC at 7000$, 2 days later price crashed with 25% ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . Anyhow, I have now put some orders in: whenever BTC falls back to 6000$ I buy some and then hold them until they reach again 10 000$ or higher.
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May 13, 2020, 11:18:22 PM |
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Volatility can be exploited as long as it is in Hodl mode most of the time, when you take a speculative attitude in the market, you should go in the trend line that the market is going, if there is a previous investment and due to volatility price rises is at that time where you can take profit, some use the margin mode to win, although everyone has their own way of trading. In my case, the liquidations that usually occur in Bitmex, you can see many times the use of multiple bots that buy contracts for 1USD, and this somehow produces volume, when liquidations of 100x, 50x occur, many times the opposite candle occurs In that way I have sometimes been lucky, but it is almost like gambling, it is difficult to detect it.
Its somewhat like gambling if we do talk about margin and a little bit mixed with luck basing up on our intuitions but the fact where skills and experience does count. Basing up on what set-up youve been following, its good that you do able to pull it through but i would say that majority wont really able to detect it unless if youre that experience and fast eyes. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Volatility is the best recipe on making money but with this also, we would really be fucked up if you do counter the flow.
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May 13, 2020, 11:52:14 PM Last edit: May 15, 2020, 12:45:08 AM by rathaha10 |
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Crypto enthusiasts will be seeking always for a bull run but let’s not forget the market has a cycle. that cycle is what makes it a system and this includes having a bear and bull season. the question is your trading platform giving you enough to capitalize on the volatility of the market and take advantage of any way the market decides to swing?
When ever i see catching headlines to trading tips, i do end up laughing though because it s not as easy as y'all use to claim in your write-ups. You are right about one thing though, the market is a cycle of both bull run and bear market which it is easier to make more profit in bull market condition because every coin do seems to have a price surge. However, trading during a bear market is more of a risk compare to a bull market because the market is always subjected to constant price fall and in as much a certain tools provide opportunity to perfectly leverage the volatility, those tools can only take you so far, after that you have to deal with the fact that anything can happen afterwards
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When ever i see catching headlines to trading tips, i do end up laughing though becaise it os not as easy as y'all use to claim in your write-ups Ofcourse cathing headline is for marketing purposes and for people to hook up in trading but deeper in it is chaos. The only thing that I don't like about baiting the people is some articles show the earnings of people who are good at trading that's why people are hooked up on trading and people expect that they can get that amount of earning by just following the article. It's possible but not easy. Countless of trading experience is needed to earn big time. I am not directing this to the article above but I've seen too many baiting articles around the internet.
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May 14, 2020, 07:27:33 AM |
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To be honest, today's market conditions are a complete opportunity to earn money as well as a great opportunity to lose money. I generally prefer to trade when there are such price fluctuations and to make money from these price fluctuations by keeping my risk threshold high. I don't want to lie, I can always win with the right strategy. It is quite easy to earn money by performing the correct technical analysis and evaluating the pullback points to be formed correctly, especially in the days when volatility is high in the market. However, it should be known that the risk will be high due to volatility. Indirectly, the gain will be high as the risk is high. For this reason, we need to take careful action, create a road map for ourselves, and proceed disciplined step by step in this road map.
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May 14, 2020, 09:16:56 AM |
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Easiest decision was to buy BTC at the crash at 5-6k and go up to where we are now. Wish i wouldve had better timing and bought at 5k and below.
Doesn't everybody wish they did exactly that? But to face reality most of us didn't trust this type of 'long-term' investment as people always worry when there are dumps but I suppose a trader with great experience would have be able to see that that was an extreme opportunity! Too bad not many of us could risk it! Agree, people are mostly considering the spot trading and they are not looking for long term investment because we don't know how long it will take to regain the price. A volatile market is very good for people who are very experienced will easily make profit, so we should find out our ethics and plan it wisely to make a profit even in a volatile market.
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May 15, 2020, 09:56:38 AM |
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All I can say is that the cryptocurrency trading market is highly unpredictable and volatile. It can pump or dump anytime without warning, like what happened in Plus Token scam. I believe those scammers are waiting for the bull run before making a mass dump in exchanges.
It’s true that we can make a profit when we trade in a volatile market, only if Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are consistent in making a bull run push. However, the result can be the other way around if the bears are dominating. This is why we must buy and trade at our own risk.
If you are looking for a long-term outcome and believe much on the coin or token, then I can say that you should go for being a long-term holder. But for day trading, every single day can be risky. You need to be a skilled cryptocurrency trader in order to make daily profits.
If you are not yet a skilled trader, you might wanna educate yourself first by enrolling in some reliable online trading courses. Platforms like NewsCrypto, Udemy, TraderCobb and Trading Heroes would be great for you to start off. As long they are affordable and with complete A to Z course from beginner to advanced, you are good to go. Once you’ve mastered it, you’re good enough to profit in a high volatile crypto market.
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May 15, 2020, 10:12:56 AM |
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I think this the strategy enables the trader to profit from the underlying price change direction, thus the trader expects volatility to increase. For example, suppose a trader buys a call and a put option on a stock with a strike price of $1000 and time to maturity of three months then i will make profit from it. High volatility means that a stock's price moves a lot. Even if you were the best trader in the world, you would never make any profit on a stock with a constant price. In the long term, volatility is good for traders because it gives them opportunities.
Volatility gives indeed opportunities, only question always is: at what price should you buy and what price should you sell? Buy low and sell high is nice in theory, but difficult in real life. In march, I bought BTC at 7000$, 2 days later price crashed with 25% ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . Anyhow, I have now put some orders in: whenever BTC falls back to 6000$ I buy some and then hold them until they reach again 10 000$ or higher. If you are lack of knowledge that 25% crashed will automatically gives you a sign of selling and cutting more losses, it's always the timing that brings opportunities to earn, having right information and right patterned to follow gives higher possibilities to make decent money from this industry. Take time to understand more and keep yourself involved with deeper knowledge.
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May 15, 2020, 10:53:10 AM |
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All I can say is that the cryptocurrency trading market is highly unpredictable and volatile. It can pump or dump anytime without warning, like what happened in Plus Token scam. I believe those scammers are waiting for the bull run before making a mass dump in exchanges.
The OP's advice is baseless, and in my opinion it is a recipe for disaster. I agree with the quote above, remember that tokens are created by individuals and at its core, the creators can manipulate the price to serve there purpose, remember the toke Purpose and Dubi by Athene, they artificially jack up the prices and scam people while saying that the people who will invest will get their profits. Remember people that investing something is a risk in itself, do not put your whole life with the promise of the riches, all that glitters isn't gold remember, learn more about finance and investing before doing some investments, it is better if you are equipped with knowledge. When the word volatility is expressed within the context of the investment then it is an immediate red flag. Invest what you can afford to lose and do not invest what you can't afford to lose.
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Hating volatility is the one thing I never really understand about people. You do realize that bitcoin is something that goes down and UP right? Like yeah it dropped under 6k for a long time there during the crash, but did you really doubt bitcoin would NEVER go about 10k again? Were you thinking like "this is the end for bitcoin, it will never recover from this ever again" or something?
Because I knew that bitcoin would eventually go back up, it always goes back up, and do you want to know something? Bitcoin will go down again as well, I don't know when and I don't know how much but the price of bitcoin will definitely drop again, and after that? It will go up again. Learnt this already. I was a week bit late and bought around 6.5k but right now I am in good profit for example, always know that bitcoin will go down but also go up.
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May 15, 2020, 02:14:24 PM |
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To be honest, today's market conditions are a complete opportunity to earn money as well as a great opportunity to lose money. I generally prefer to trade when there are such price fluctuations and to make money from these price fluctuations by keeping my risk threshold high. I don't want to lie, I can always win with the right strategy. It is quite easy to earn money by performing the correct technical analysis and evaluating the pullback points to be formed correctly, especially in the days when volatility is high in the market. However, it should be known that the risk will be high due to volatility. Indirectly, the gain will be high as the risk is high. For this reason, we need to take careful action, create a road map for ourselves, and proceed disciplined step by step in this road map.
The market is very volatile so we should expect that trading is not an easy that is why risk management is important, there are opportunities but it is hard to see especially if we are not yet find our edge in the market. We should use the techniques and strategies that we are used in order for us to have higher in winning rate. It is simple to make profit in a volatile market but it is not an easy and that is why trading is continuous learning where we cannot able to become a professional trader in just days or weeks.
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exchanges make a lot of money from selling their margin trading service to the people who are ready to gamble on market positions compared to what they make on spot trading.
Yes, providing margin trading functionality is nothing but lending out loans on daily basis. When traders are not closing their positions, they must need to pay interest on daily basis for the amount they have used for availing the leverage. When trader's remaining capital is not enough for covering these kind of fees, then auto liquidation will get triggered which means open positions will be closed on market prices. OP is talking about Trade and make a profit in a Volatile market but in volatile markets it is always trade and face loss. But, exchanges are the only party who makes consistent profits so they will not stop asking people to promote them through this kind of discussions. Everyone tries to promote their thing, that is not really that big of a deal anymore because everyone is doing and if you are doing something and not promoting like this when everyone else is doing it, you are not really doing it properly anymore. I know it sucks and I know we want the world to be better but as long as it is allowed and others are doing it, new places will keep popping up and doing this nowadays, that is about as good as you can hope right now. Do not really care about what people are promoting these days, just consider what you are doing as a good thing and close your eyes to other peoples stuff they are trying to shove to your face. I have a system and I like my system and I do not care what others are saying I just want to continue doing what I do.
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May 16, 2020, 11:40:48 AM |
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The market now seems to be of a big challenge for traders, we can't deny the fact the risk and getting riskier as it was before. The volatility makes changes around and that most new traders are used to lose their money than to gain. To know the reality is also accepting the consequences here and that only those who are knowledgeable enough in trading will actually get the benefits from this.
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ethereumhunter
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May 16, 2020, 01:31:27 PM |
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Trading during a volatile market can go two ways its either you make profit while doing it or you run at a loss. But its highly risky to trade in a volatile markets things can easily go sideways in a twinkling of an eye. Many has been liquidated while trying to trade during a volatile market
Yes the risk is high that’s why traders are only for those who have knowledge on it and willing to take the risk. There’s a big money on a volatile market that moves 24/7 and yes, the price is good but the risk is also high. I’m a trader, not a good one because I also make mistake but understanding the volatility and the risk can save you from a lot of trouble. If the market is volatile, and it is hard to analyze, it is better to leave it for a while because if you force yourself to enter the market, you can get lose your money. But if you can accept the high risk, and you still insist on trying your analyze, you can enter the market, but you need to be very careful. I agree that we need to understand the volatility of the market so we can prevent from making another mistake.
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TheUltraElite
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May 27, 2020, 05:44:35 AM |
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The market now seems to be of a big challenge for traders, we can't deny the fact the risk and getting riskier as it was before. I dont think that is completely true. Risk begets reward and that my friend needs to be evaluated before going pessimistic. You see this crisis in the world is being capitalized by many companies as well. Learn from them and use the drop in price and the general panic to your advantage. I cant advice you more on this but if you liquid cash at hand buy bitcoin and sell it for smaller margin profits at <5%. If the prices drop like it happened from 9k to 8k USD buy some bitcoin. Prices will be like this for sometime now. The volatility makes changes around and that most new traders are used to lose their money than to gain. Losing money is part of the game. To know the reality is also accepting the consequences here and that only those who are knowledgeable enough in trading will actually get the benefits from this. Maybe true, but I always feel that retail investors can also take profits in a bear market or a panicky market.
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May 27, 2020, 07:40:33 AM |
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Trading during a volatile market can go two ways its either you make profit while doing it or you run at a loss. But its highly risky to trade in a volatile markets things can easily go sideways in a twinkling of an eye. Many has been liquidated while trying to trade during a volatile market
Yes the risk is high that’s why traders are only for those who have knowledge on it and willing to take the risk. There’s a big money on a volatile market that moves 24/7 and yes, the price is good but the risk is also high. I’m a trader, not a good one because I also make mistake but understanding the volatility and the risk can save you from a lot of trouble. If the market is volatile, and it is hard to analyze, it is better to leave it for a while because if you force yourself to enter the market, you can get lose your money. But if you can accept the high risk, and you still insist on trying your analyze, you can enter the market, but you need to be very careful. I agree that we need to understand the volatility of the market so we can prevent from making another mistake. no you cant perfect this market and make no further mistakes . if your not risk taker then this market isnt for you . being volatile makes the market hard to analyze but isnt that thrilling ? like what you experience when you play gambling . trading on a volatile market is still good because this makes us earn fast compare to when market barely moves but also depend on coins too . not all coins are volatile but btc is the best with this .
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ethereumhunter
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May 27, 2020, 12:31:30 PM |
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If the market is volatile, and it is hard to analyze, it is better to leave it for a while because if you force yourself to enter the market, you can get lose your money. But if you can accept the high risk, and you still insist on trying your analyze, you can enter the market, but you need to be very careful. I agree that we need to understand the volatility of the market so we can prevent from making another mistake.
no you cant perfect this market and make no further mistakes . if your not risk taker then this market isnt for you . being volatile makes the market hard to analyze but isnt that thrilling ? like what you experience when you play gambling . trading on a volatile market is still good because this makes us earn fast compare to when market barely moves but also depend on coins too . not all coins are volatile but btc is the best with this . At least, if the market is volatile, and you have the skills to analyze the market, I am sure you will get the right time to enter the market. You can expect to make a profit from the volatility of the market, but you need to be careful because the chance for you to get lost will be there. It is always exciting to trade in the volatility of the market because that can make your heart become faster than before.
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May 27, 2020, 01:10:27 PM |
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It is good to trade but there are many risks involved it's easy to form a profit by trading in volatile markets but it'll depend entirely on us how we trade To avoid risk always research the market well then trade. If we've good knowledge about trade then it's possible to form a profit by trading on every site and not just in volatile markets it'll depend upon our skills. Bitcoin investments are less risky and more profitable.
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TheUltraElite
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June 08, 2020, 06:19:31 AM |
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At least, if the market is volatile, and you have the skills to analyze the market, I am sure you will get the right time to enter the market. You can expect to make a profit from the volatility of the market, but you need to be careful because the chance for you to get lost will be there. The market has been a bit more volatile lately with the halving completed bitcoin now trying to touch 10k USD but still lingering around 9k. It can go both up and down so better to keep some liquid cash at hand to buy. You can always short sell when a drop is going on. Sell at the market price and buy back at lower price. The sequence is opposite but essentially the same as buying low and selling high. So these things can be taken advantage of. It is always exciting to trade in the volatility of the market because that can make your heart become faster than before. Right, but dont want any heart attacks during this season do we? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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