Another ANN bumping group+ Interesting merit transfers

[Rikafip]

While keeping an eye on IndexChain and Relictum ANNs that are currently being bumped by one of those services , i noticed group of accounts that are working together for quite some time through various threads, and that have interesting merit history.

First let's see their  post activity on various ANNs, that all used bumping services.



Accounts
Pastrana
6eTxoBeH
WerSalit
Gucci Flip Flops
Vlone
camerali
Drugs?
Oprah

ANN threads
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Another interesting thing about this group of accounts is their merit history. 4/8 accounts  in this group got merits from the  same account- Basorexia. And all those merits were sent quite after posts were made:

38 merit sent to Pastrana for his 10th anniversary work,  sent on  February 24th 2020 .
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5193860.msg52914074#msg52914074

10 merit sent to 6eTxoBeH on February 24th 2020, for the post he made back in July 2019 (and that's his only merit)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5159938.msg51708774#msg51708774

8 merit sent to Drugs? on March 10th 2020, for post made  in November 2019, and that merit made him Member rank.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5195845.msg53085521#msg53085521

8 merit sent to Oprah on March 23rd 2020, for post made in December 2019 also made Member rank with this.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5213309.msg53465661#msg53465661

There is another connection between those  accounts, and its through user  Aleksandr_ov. On the screenshot below you can see his  merit history. If you check all those users that gave him merit (6eTxoBeH, Oprah, Kiid) you will see that source of their merit is Basorexia as well.



All this is just a coincidence or something else going on here?

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[dkbit98]

Good research again OP.
It is more than obvious they are all connected for bumping crap on altcoin section.

[btcltcdigger]

To think Oprah would sink this low.
And she had a good career and tons of money. Guess corona took a different toll on everyone

[Rikafip]

It is more than obvious they are all connected for bumping crap on altcoin section.

Yep, it is the obvious case of the thread bumping group, as its simply too much similarity in their post history to be just a coincidence. They follow each other around on the same threads, and for some Ann list is even longer than I showed on the screenshot. Another coincidence that I just noticed is that 6/8  accounts  that are in this bumping group +Basorexia were last active on April 1st.

Regarding possible merit abuse, that thing is harder to prove. Maybe someone else can see additional pattern here, or some other connections.

[Lauda]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1521
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1522
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1523
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1524
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1525
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1526
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1527
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1528
Tagging shortly. Good work!

[nutildah]

Accounts
Pastrana

I noticed something fishy about this account a while back, too.

On March 20, account cryptogod322 made a lackluster post in the WO thread, for which he received 4 merits from Pastrana (not a WO regular):

In less than two months, Bitcoin will be halved.
What do you think will be the same trend as with other currencies before and after halving?
For example LTC. Before halving, the price will rise and after it will immediately collapse.
How likely is this scenario?

To which I replied:

This is the wrong thread to be meriting your alt accounts in, sonny.

I thought maybe that was his first post in the WO, but I was wrong, he had one 2 days earlier for which he received 6 merits from Basorexia:

Guys who have any thoughts on technical analysis?
Who is in what position?
After analyzing tradingview, I was able to come to a single conclusion. Now, many traders recommend generally refraining from transactions, but the volatility in% ratio is not bad, I would even say good, and this should be used.
It seems to me that behind all these "problems", many traders generally moved away from trading.
What are yall thoughts?
I am more inclined to short positions, I can also send here my thoughts to tradingview, strangely enough my ideas were supported by a large number of traders.

Its not the worst post to be meriting, but the fact that this user was sent exactly 10 merits in 2 days (in order to reach Member status) is kind of bizarre.

So where else has cryptogod322 been posting? Well, he joined the Relictum Pro bounty, for one.

This user received 30 merits from Basorexia and was banned a few days ago. He opened this thread, which received 10 merits from Basorexia and 3 merits from Oprah. There appears to be many, many more accounts involved in this farm. They likely all belong to the same person, and thus are all ban evading.

[Lauda]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1521
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1522
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1523
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1524
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1525
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1526
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1527
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1528
Tagging shortly. Good work!

OP's of ANN threads:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2761657
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2752550
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2756993
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2630097
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1396424
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2540270
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2357920

I think we should tag them as well, given the circumstances. Even if you take a brief look you can conclude that it is all fraudulent, for example "Blockchain 5.0" (no such thing exists and indicates a scam). Opinions?

[Rikafip]

Tagging shortly. Good work!

Flags supported.

I noticed something fishy about this account a while back, too.

On March 20, account cryptogod322 made a lackluster post in the WO thread, for which he received 4 merits from Pastrana (not a WO regular):

I thought maybe that was his first post in the WO, but I was wrong, he had one 2 days earlier for which he received 6 merits from Basorexia:

...

Its not the worst post to be meriting, but the fact that this user was sent exactly 10 merits in 2 days (in order to reach Member status) is kind of bizarre.

This becomes pattern really, sending just the right amount of merit needed  for rank up, and it happened to 6 accounts mentioned here (Pastrana,  6eTxoBeH, Drugs?, Oprah , cryptogod322 and kiid).

This user received 30 merits from Basorexia and was banned a few days ago. He opened this thread, which received 10 merits from Basorexia and 3 merits from Oprah. There appears to be many, many more accounts involved in this farm. They likely all belong to the same person, and thus are all ban evading.

I had no idea that Aleksandr_ov has been banned already, thanks  for that. Yeah this looks like a much bigger group of accounts, and thanks to that anniversary contest they managed to rank up quite a few accounts. It is reasonable to assume that they are all controlled by same person and therefore case of ban evading, but it is a bit harder to prove that without same address use.

I think we should tag them as well, given the circumstances. Even if you take a brief look you can conclude that it is all fraudulent, for example "Blockchain 5.0" (no such thing exists and indicates a scam). Opinions?

So far i was reluctant to do that as i noticed from older and more experienced members that they don't do that for ANN that hire bumping services unless they have other proof of scam, but maybe this is exactly what is needed, in order for them to stop. I would like to hear  opinions about this issue as well.

[nutildah]

I'm adding the other accounts that received the majority (if not all) of their merits from Basorexia, and obtained exactly the right amount of merits to rank up:

cryptogod322 (10 merits) - 6 from Basorexia, 4 from Pastrana
Stasonelison (10 merits) - 5 from Pastrana, 4 from Drugs?
Hellkas (10 merits) - 9 from Pastrana
Kiid (10 merits) - 9 from Basorexia

-cryptogod322 connected through participation in Relictum Pro bounty
-Kiid posted in Relictum Pro thread

It should also be noted that the 38 merits sent to Pastrana by Basorexia was the exact amount of merits needed for them to become a Full Member (100).

Here are some lower-level accounts all participating in the Trustee Wallet Russian signature bounty that received most (if not all) of their merits from Basorexia or Pastrana:

donatello345 - 1 merit from Pastrana
sovkysom39 - 1 merit from Basorexia (on day of joining campaign)
cryptogod322 - 6 from Basorexia, 4 from Pastrana
Stasonelison - 5 from Pastrana, 4 from Drugs?
truehider - 5 from Basorexia

Then there's a who 'nother farm in the IndexChain thread... looks like there was a lot of merit purchasing going on from MalReynolds (who was negged for merit selling a while back). I'm getting a bit tired and I have to go back to work so I asked Alex_Sr if he could take a look at it, because he is good at this stuff.

I'm going to take a day or two before I do any tagging. Sometimes its better to let things digest before acting.

[Lauda]

I think we should tag them as well, given the circumstances. Even if you take a brief look you can conclude that it is all fraudulent, for example "Blockchain 5.0" (no such thing exists and indicates a scam). Opinions?

So far i was reluctant to do that as i noticed from older and more experienced members that they don't do that for ANN that hire bumping services unless they have other proof of scam, but maybe this is exactly what is needed, in order for them to stop. I would like to hear  opinions about this issue as well.

This practice will certainly never stop if thread owners are not flagged. I believe we can not apply a singular stance, that is flag all threads or not flag all threads. We should evaluate each case individually. For the projects that were linked, there is nothing to indicate any kind of strong legitimacy or autonomy that would make it unlikely that they hired these people. I am not asking for opinions on a general stance, but rather these particular cases!

[Rikafip]

Then there's a who 'nother farm in the IndexChain thread... looks like there was a lot of merit purchasing going on from MalReynolds (who was negged for merit selling a while back). I'm getting a bit tired and I have to go back to work so I asked Alex_Sr if he could take a look at it, because he is good at this stuff.

Now when you mentioned merit purchasing, look at the 5 newbie accounts that got 1 merit each from Basorexia:

Kilkalika000 registered on March 29th 2020 and made 15 posts so far, out of that, 14 are in Russian language, and only 1 in English-the one merited by Basorexia

eR4 registered back in October 2019, but he was inactive until  March 29th 2020 . So far he made 36 posts; 33 are in Russian, 2 are bounty reports, and 1 is in English- merited by Basorexia

KIRI44442 also registered in October 2019, but he was also inactive until March  29th. He made 15 posts; 14 in Russian, 1 in English- exactly the one merited by Basorexia

zanoza1924 registered on March 29th 2020, and so far he  made 12 posts; 11 in Russian, 1 in English, and the one that got merit from Basorexia

Marfolone  registered on March 22nd but he was inactive until March 30th .He made 17 posts; 16 in Russian and 1 in English. Only his first post ever was in English, and the one that got merit from Basorexia, after that he only writes in Russian local board.

Again coincidences, all accounts  started being active on March 29th/March30, write exclusively in Russian, but only merit they got is for their single post in English from a single user  (Kilkalika000 being exception as he got 1 more merit for his single  English post)

This practice will certainly never stop if thread owners are not flagged. I believe we can not apply a singular stance, that is flag all threads or not flag all threads. We should evaluate each case individually. For the projects that were linked, there is nothing to indicate any kind of strong legitimacy or autonomy that would make it unlikely that they hired these people. I am not asking for opinions on a general stance, but rather these particular cases!

I might misunderstood your previous post, but yeah i agree with what you said, it should be done on a case by case basis, and I'll take a look at it. Since 99% of all projects are pure bs, chances are good  that something can be found.

[Lauda]

This practice will certainly never stop if thread owners are not flagged. I believe we can not apply a singular stance, that is flag all threads or not flag all threads. We should evaluate each case individually. For the projects that were linked, there is nothing to indicate any kind of strong legitimacy or autonomy that would make it unlikely that they hired these people. I am not asking for opinions on a general stance, but rather these particular cases!

I might misunderstood your previous post, but yeah i agree with what you said, it should be done on a case by case basis, and I'll take a look at it. Since 99% of all projects are pure bs, chances are good  that something can be found.

That is alright, by wording was inadequate! So what would you say about these? In particular that "Blockchain 5.0" looks like a scam that is highly probable to have hired the bumpers.

[blurryeyed]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1521
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1522
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1523
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1524
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1525
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1526
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1527
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1528
Tagging shortly. Good work!

Supported & tagged.

These bumping services are getting on my nerves now.....

[Lauda]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1521
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1522
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1523
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1524
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1525
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1526
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1527
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1528
Tagging shortly. Good work!

Supported & tagged.

These bumping services are getting on my nerves now.....

It is a big problem and a lot of people get financially harmed by this. 

[Rikafip]

So what would you say about these? In particular that "Blockchain 5.0" looks like a scam that is highly probable to have hired the bumpers.

I checked Relictum a bit, couldn't find plagiarism or fake team members. Maybe someone with more technical knowledge can see through their buzzwords and  bs and make a case against them.


Regarding Basorexia, few new suspicious merit transfers happened.  After being 5 days offline, he came back on April 6th, and in a matter of few minutes he  sent following merits to 4 newbie accounts:

2 merits sent to Oi95_back for post made back in 2018.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5054349.msg47102561#msg47102561
https://archive.fo/JOJrs

1 merit sent to Hokilucky92
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229720.msg54088192#msg54088192
https://archive.vn/wHlaq

1 merit sent to user SUSUBADAK
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229720.msg54021646#msg54021646
https://archive.vn/UnPl1

6 merit sent to user BuyOwnEx for post made in July 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2960582.msg42686874#msg42686874
https://archive.vn/Nwo89


What's even worse, some forum members sent him BTC in exchange for personalized  figurines, and they are still waiting for those, without him replying to their messages, therefore he got tags from them as well.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5204109.0  Could this be his exit scam?

[Basorexia]

My account have been hijacked more than a week ago.
Some Merits seems to have been sold. Since today account is under my control again.
My apologizes.

[Rikafip]

My account have been hijacked more than a week ago.
Some Merits seems to have been sold. Since today account is under my control again.
My apologizes.

You said that your account has been hacked more than a week ago, but what about merit transfers before that, from March 13th  and onwards, to accounts that are obviosuly part of the bumping group? And if your account has been compromised, how come you didn't make new account, and warn the others about the issue? That would be the first thing I would do.


Another thing, can you explain this post on your [AUCTION] Football stickers and cards 2007-2014. thread? Seems to me like you were shilling your own auction thread.

Wow
Thats hard!!!!!
This is a really cool offer
These stickers and cards are over 10 years old. In the future, you could sell them much more expensive at real auctions. Such things only get more expensive over the years, like wine

https://archive.fo/HY5Nc

What's interesting about this account is that it was also working with rest of the previously mentioned accounts , bumping those threads (Imagecoin,Wolfpackbot), and all that was done long before this so called hacking. So I don't buy your story and explanation

[Lauda]

My account have been hijacked more than a week ago.
Some Merits seems to have been sold. Since today account is under my control again.
My apologizes.

Yes, every time I did something wrong too my account was compromised and I changed my email and password to prove this theory.

[Rikafip]

Yes, every time I did something wrong too my account was compromised and I changed my email and password to prove this theory.

Yep, in this case that excuse is as plausible as that old one  with dog and homework.

Some Merits seems to have been sold.

Based on your last merit transaction, I would say business is still going strong. You sent tome merit few days ago to Piskaev, known sock puppet account that worked on bunch of threads (Crybet, IndexChain, Burstex, MalwareChain, Livecoin etc). Or maybe this is just one of your alt accounts?

Just don't say it's been hacked again.

[Corrado Cattani]

Yes, every time I did something wrong too my account was compromised and I changed my email and password to prove this theory.

Yep, in this case that excuse is as plausible as that old one  with dog and homework.

Some Merits seems to have been sold.

Based on your last merit transaction, I would say business is still going strong. You sent tome merit few days ago to Piskaev, known suck puppet account that worked on bunch of threads (Crybet, IndexChain, Burstex, MalwareChain, Livecoin etc). Or maybe this is just one of your alt accounts?

Just don't say it's been hacked again.

Yes, really suspicious activity. I did a little investigation today, and there’s also a Piskaev account.