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April 04, 2020, 03:36:12 AM
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I am shaking my head. This person is one of the most annoying people that I have seen in the cryptospace. Is he paid to do this? Who is paying him?

He also said that the lightning network users are thieves hehehe. He is clearly only paid to annoy everyone.



One of Wright’s most mind numbing posts is essentially about how Wright is going to sue Bitcoin (BTC) and Bitcoin Cash (BCH) for changing the underlying protocol.

Essentially, Wright says that under the MIT license Bitcoin (BTC) was created with, people are allowed to fork the protocol, but they are not allowed to change the underlying protocol and claim that it is the original. Wright says the underlying protocol and registry of Bitcoin (BTC) is his intellectual property.

Wright goes on to specifically mention that Bitcoin (BTC) has violated the Database Regulations law of 1997 and the Computer Misuse Act of 1990. Also, Wright says SegWit is the breaking point where Bitcoin (BTC) began to break the law.


Apparently Wright did not get the memo, despite claiming to be Satoshi, that Bitcoin (BTC) is decentralized and cannot be sued out of existence. In general, his article about this is filled with hate, rage, and veiled threats, but does not seem to hold any water, since Bitcoin (BTC) cannot be sued.


Read in full https://cryptoiq.co/craig-wrights-ramblings-everyone-using-bitcoin-and-the-lightning-network-are-thieves-binance-is-a-criminal-cartel-bitcoin-is-breaking-the-law-and-will-be-sued/

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April 04, 2020, 04:50:29 AM
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sue bitcoin?!!! now I've heard everything Cheesy
i never knew bitcoin was a person...

Is he paid to do this? Who is paying him?
he isn't paid, he is making money by scamming people among other things. not to mention his shitcoin pump and dump.

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Essentially, Wright says that under the MIT license Bitcoin (BTC) was created with, people are allowed to fork the protocol, but they are not allowed to change the underlying protocol and claim that it is the original. Wright says the underlying protocol and registry of Bitcoin (BTC) is his intellectual property.
it seems like he has no understanding of MIT license!

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In general, his article about this is filled with hate, rage, and veiled threats, but does not seem to hold any water, since Bitcoin (BTC) cannot be sued.[/i]
in short: desperation as time goes by and he starts being forgotten and becoming more and more irrelevant, he will make more outrageous claims to provoke people to keep talking about him nonstop.

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April 04, 2020, 05:10:26 AM
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The dude certainly has some screws loose on his head, as this guy plans to sue bitcoin! Cheesy This will only add up to the growing outrageous claims of this man to stay relevant in the scene. No one in the crypto space ever takes him seriously now as everyone already know that this guy is nuts. This guy will go down as one of the craziest nut jobs to ever appear in the history of bitcoin, and that in itself is not even a gracious title to be had.

I am shaking my head. This person is one of the most annoying people that I have seen in the cryptospace. Is he paid to do this? Who is paying him?

He also said that the lightning network users are thieves hehehe. He is clearly only paid to annoy everyone.

Certainly trying to just provoke as many people as possible to keep his name relevant. Not that he's paid or anything, but it could also be the case.

Wright goes on to specifically mention that Bitcoin (BTC) has violated the Database Regulations law of 1997 and the Computer Misuse Act of 1990. Also, Wright says SegWit is the breaking point where Bitcoin (BTC) began to break the law.[/glow]

And it's amazing why the law itself do not punish the main developers pushing for these updates. Ironic, isn't it? This guy will site a few clauses of some law and religiously preach about it, telling everyone that X law has been broken by bitcoin and they are abusing my intellectual property.

Apparently Wright did not get the memo, despite claiming to be Satoshi, that Bitcoin (BTC) is decentralized and cannot be sued out of existence. In general, his article about this is filled with hate, rage, and veiled threats, but does not seem to hold any water, since Bitcoin (BTC) cannot be sued.[/i]

Let him live in his delusional castle. The world will just laugh at him anyway.

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April 04, 2020, 06:00:19 AM
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He has never proven that he is the the creator of the Bitcoin Code,so he can't sue anyone.
CJW just lost a possibility to get some easy money.That's why he is so pissed off.
He is one of those people who want to make lots of easy money out of lawsuits,but he doesn't have great lawyers and he can't find a way to "sue Bitcoin". There should be a special term about such people.
I should call them "lawsuit whores"  Grin

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April 04, 2020, 06:40:01 AM
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I am shaking my head. This person is one of the most annoying people that I have seen in the cryptospace. Is he paid to do this? Who is paying him?

I laugh long reading this. I think he dreamed of becoming a bitcoin artist. Give a Bitcoin whitepaper, let him read it and understand it. If he is still stubborn, leave it as he pleases. Or do you have any other suggestions?  Grin

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April 04, 2020, 06:51:55 AM
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It seems that they have already begun to forget about him, so he decided to remind himself of himself in such a provocative way.
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April 04, 2020, 07:08:20 AM
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sue bitcoin?!!! now I've heard everything Cheesy
i never knew bitcoin was a person...
Man, this shit got me hard lol.

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Is he paid to do this? Who is paying him?
he isn't paid, he is making money by scamming people among other things. not to mention his shitcoin pump and dump.
Is he a celebrity? He always keep coming in media. Nonetheless, business in media what gets eyeballs, and eyeball brings dollars, so he might be doing extraordinary stuff for this? Well, kinda obvious but I never thought of risking my dignity just to sound exceptional then make dollars.

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In general, his article about this is filled with hate, rage, and veiled threats, but does not seem to hold any water, since Bitcoin (BTC) cannot be sued.[/i]
in short: desperation as time goes by and he starts being forgotten and becoming more and more irrelevant, he will make more outrageous claims to provoke people to keep talking about him nonstop.

Won't be surprised that may be next few weeks or months he has something to bring up already again. He's way worse than what I thought of him in the past.
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April 04, 2020, 07:44:15 AM
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That is an interesting turn of events considering this was the man who tried to be
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Then he again went to the court because of the reason 1.
Now he wants to destroy Bitcoins because he is not in the right mind.
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Essentially, Wright says that under the MIT license Bitcoin (BTC) was created with, people are allowed to fork the protocol, but they are not allowed to change the underlying protocol and claim that it is the original. Wright says the underlying protocol and registry of Bitcoin (BTC) is his intellectual property.
it seems like he has no understanding of MIT license!
Bbc.reporter should have included the MIT License in the OP:
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I do get why every brainfart coming out of this guy gets published on websites: they love drama and thus publicity for their own unimportant little website. But I don't get why this has to be posted on Bitcointalk every time again.
This guy has made so many people lose their coins on the wrong chain by pretending his Forkcoin is the real Bitcoin.
Stop giving him attention!

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April 04, 2020, 08:41:00 AM
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The man is never ran out of antics. He always has something up his sleeve to surprise and entertain us.

I guess we should just appreciate his efforts. It is not easy to be a clown, you know, just to cheer people up.

This man is really amusing. His mind is one of a kind.

I guess the joke's on us if we let him get on our nerves.
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Aren't we are all tired of his shit-show? And now he comes up with another one of his 'grabbing the headlines' antics to bring some publicity to him again. I think people need to stop paying attention to this person because obviously, he is a pathological liar.

Sue bitcoin? WTF is that, is he gonna sue his supposedly own bitcoin?  Smiley

He has been caught lying already, and every time he open his mouth, people are going to be like laughing and then hating him.
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I thought that his craziness is over already when he went to the court to prove that he is Satoshi. Yes he prove something - not Satoshi but Faketoshi or Wright-oshit Cheesy.

Now he created a more crazier move. I'm done with his stupidity already Cheesy . How can he sue Bitcoin.

I know that he is an attention-seeker but I don't see that he is gaining some audiences with what he is doing. Stupid Wrightoshit. He did this because he can't prove himself that he is Satoshi so he just sue Bitcoin which is the most stupid move that I known. Haters will hate this stupid living creature.

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April 04, 2020, 10:33:45 AM
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The struggle for relevance is real. Plenty of time in his hands due to the pandemic. Let's see if he actually follows up on filing a case. I would like to see that happen.
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April 04, 2020, 10:51:36 AM
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I am no lawyer but I'm pretty sure you cannot sue something like Bitcoin. You can sue a natural or legal person but it seems to me that Bitcoin is none. In the latter, the entity should be officially registered and there must be someone that can be held responsible. Since Bitcoin is decentralized but Craig claims he is the creator, how about he sues himself for breaking the law, lol? 'Cause I don't see any other option he can have. Oh, and speaking of him claiming to be Satoshi, what's with that Tulip Trust stuff? He's obliged to pay half of the money to Kleiman's family, and since he clearly did not, I don't understand why this guy is not in prison for fabricating data/robbing best friend/being an impostor? How comes he's still doing just fine, spreading his lies?

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I have read dozens of people talking about Bitcoin seriously. Among them, there are those who do not like BTC, as well as those who do not. I can understand that everyone's opinion is naturally different from the other. But I haven't been able to understand for a long time what Craig S. Wright has been seeing. Is there anyone who can understand his purpose? A totally unnecessary person. Be sure, I think there is such a pointless person that is not worth talking about here. I think he wants to be talking about here.
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He will sue satoshi, good idea..  Grin Grin

This guy is always a clown, every article about him is almost funny so even if he might be saying some interesting words, I'd prefer not to listen to him as I don't want to be a fork lover, his BSV will be gone soon, it will not survive in this market.

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I guess he'll have to talk to a bunch of 0's and 1's as well as asking for IT personnel to preside over the court case he would do. This is basically close to a delusion. One guy on his own dreamland fighting off imaginary people he set as such. You can't even get angry at the guy. You almost always face him off with a helpless attitude, thinking what the hell is even going on in this guy's brain. Can't even get angry off of it cause his ramblings can be compared to the ramblings of a 5-6-year-old child somewhere.
Apparently Wright did not get the memo, despite claiming to be Satoshi, that Bitcoin (BTC) is decentralized and cannot be sued out of existence.
This was real amusing ngl. The guy claiming to be Satoshi first and foremost doesn't even know what an MIT license means/holds.

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April 04, 2020, 02:12:52 PM
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He failed to make-believe people that he's satoshi. And then he'll sue bitcoin? what is the next joke he'll say?

Attention seeker, as usual, let's give ourselves a break and stop discussing things related to his useless words.

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This man is not paid to do this annoying thing. He makes a sensation that will be very useful for him, more talked about people who will make him more known. Many claims have been made.

Many people have started to be profiled by it. An advantage to advertise his shitcoin to stay alive.
All the claims he made could not be proven by valid data.
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He failed to make-believe people that he's satoshi. And then he'll sue bitcoin? what is the next joke he'll say?

Attention seeker, as usual, let's give ourselves a break and stop discussing things related to his useless words.
Craig Wright can't keep his own words because it is full of foolishness. What do you expect on a person who manipulate and deceive other people for his own benefit? he keeps on claiming that he's the person behind the pseudonym Satoshi. He's not running out of ideas to catch people's attention, so it's better to focus on much more important things than a person who contradicted his own claims.

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I would like one day people make a statistic of how many people really care about what faketoshi talks about bitcoin, I believe the results would make us laugh a lot. Today everything that faketoshi does, nobody cares. the guy is simply putting himself in a position where people will think he is crazy and obsessed with controlling bitcoin.

Honestly my advice (if faketoshi ever read this post) Is that he should take a vacation to take care of his life and accept the reality that he is not satoshi, continuing on this path will only turn him into a crazy person

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He would have a chance in court if he could prove that he's Satoshi.
Nobody is breaking any of his rights because he's not the creator of Bitcoin and he can't prove otherwise.

Saying that you own something doesn';t make you the owner. All sane people know it.
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He would have a chance in court if he could prove that he's Satoshi.
Nobody is breaking any of his rights because he's not the creator of Bitcoin and he can't prove otherwise.

Saying that you own something doesn';t make you the owner. All sane people know it.

his game is not to win cases
his game is to cause legal delays.
this is so that while case B,C,D is active. case A cant proceed

case A is the Australian government wanting their tax back.
he is just trying to delay it until its out of statute of limitations.
he did not realise that what he done in case A is actually criminal not contractual. so statute of limitations does not apply
so his next game is to scam people to get money. to then pay back the first scams (run a ponzi to pay off his past scams)

this is where he makes fake patents and tries suing people. making them think that he will keep them wrapped up in expensive lengthy legal stuff, where he hopes people will just pay him to stop.

this is a well known scam thats been going around for ages its called patent trolling

its people like his best friend calvin ayres that first invested into CSW. and then realised he wont get any returns as there is no bitcoin hoard.. however instead of calling it out and just treating it as a loss.. he joined in and wants CSW to scam more and double down, do patent trolling, book deals, try to extort settlements.etc

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I am shaking my head. This person is one of the most annoying people that I have seen in the cryptospace. Is he paid to do this? Who is paying him?

The guy looks arrogant and annoying on the picture Smiley let him sue the Bitcoin... let him sue everyone.
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I would like one day people make a statistic of how many people really care about what faketoshi talks about bitcoin, I believe the results would make us laugh a lot. Today everything that faketoshi does, nobody cares. the guy is simply putting himself in a position where people will think he is crazy and obsessed with controlling bitcoin.
This guy is simply a crap taking attacks on bitcoin, I don't know what his intention is, if he really wants it to pull bitcoin down or just spreading FUD so he can take advantage of it. There is only one thing in my mind, I know and he looks so scared of what bitcoin is capable of changing things that he has right now on which a case that he wants to stay the way it is in his hands.

Honestly my advice (if faketoshi ever read this post) Is that he should take a vacation to take care of his life and accept the reality that he is not satoshi, continuing on this path will only turn him into a crazy person
If he is really Satoshi then why he claims bitcoin when it is only inflating? Coz if he really does then he should've come up as early as 2010.
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Mi scusi, but how the fck is he gonna sue Bitcoin if he claims to be its creator? Is he gonna sue himself? lol
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His latest claim: https://craigwright.net/blog/bitcoin-blockchain-tech/satoshi-never-posted-on-bitcointalk/

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Already debunked (+ Jimmy Nguyen served) ...

Craig's latest blog post, claiming that Satoshi never posted on Bitcointalk because the domain wasn't registered until 2011: hxxps://craigwright.net/blog/bitcoin-blockchain-tech/satoshi-never-posted-on-bitcointalk/

The obvious truth is that the forum was originally hosted on bitcoin.org and was moved to the Bitcointalk.org domain in 2011. Here is an archive link from 2009 to the original forum: https://web.archive.org/web/20091215005450/http://bitcointalk.org/

The archive link shows post made Satoshi, which again shows how terrible Craig is at fabricating this nonsense.


"Just wow! Beyond the pale. Not even an April fools joke ... more lies by CSW, that will be easily debunked ..."
- https://twitter.com/BitcoinFX_BTC/status/1245110710012706817

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"Excerpt from CSW's blog post ... 100% lie ...

"What people are failing to understand is that Bitcointalk was only registered in mid-2011: https://whois.com/whois/bitcointalk.org."

See: "Welcome to the new Bitcoin forum!" - satoshi, Founder, November 22, 2009.

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.0"

- https://twitter.com/BitcoinFX_BTC/status/1245121949698793479

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"Exactly.

Plus the most damning evidence against Craig's claim here can include any (used or mined to) BTC addresses posted by early users of http://BitcoinTalk.org prior to the 2011 date.

These addresses have timestamps of transactions in the BTC, BCH and BSV blockchains ..."

- https://twitter.com/BitcoinFX_BTC/status/1245293506396073985

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"Again, partly what I'm demonstrating by signing and verifying messages from my own 'old' BTC wallet addresses here:

  https://twitter.com/BitcoinFX_BTC/status/1245301788678422529

No problem whatsoever in signing 'old' wallets with new code and/or updated software releases.

Craig Wright has signed nothing valid."

- https://twitter.com/BitcoinFX_BTC/status/1245833193871343621

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Not your lies, hearsay, fabrications or falsehoods ...

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#Bitcoin = #BTC

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- https://twitter.com/BitcoinFX_BTC/status/1246448394937102338
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I don't know why I bother really, nothing beneficial will ever come of it !?

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Oh, are you being served ...

"Jimmy Nguyen, who normally tweets almost on a daily basis, went totally quiet after this. Is he taking "social distancing" to the next level? "
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The BSV 'gang' have tried to 'hijack' the Bitcoin (BTC) project and they are failing, badly ... even the BS patents are 'worthless' ...

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Not sure why this nutcase is still relevant around. He's desperate for attention to further his scams.
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I am shaking my head. This person is one of the most annoying people that I have seen in the cryptospace. Is he paid to do this? Who is paying him?
He also said that the lightning network users are thieves hehehe. He is clearly only paid to annoy everyone.
There is no doubt that he lacks social skills and he irritates everyone and he speaks on doing things and i am yet to see those things fulfill. As mentioned above he is paid by Calvin and how long he will be able to do that is to be seen Grin.

Not sure why this nutcase is still relevant around. He's desperate for attention to further his scams.
After almost two years of absence you are back again  Wink. There is one or the other topic starting every now and then regarding what Craig said and even though how much you report it pops up as he is releasing something every now and then to capture the headlines.

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Even if for the sake of argument we imagine that he somehow succeeds, it won't change much, Github might be forced to take some action with the Bitcoin repo and maybe some exchanges will have to rebrand their listing of Bitcoin, but CWS and the court are powerless to do anything to Bitcoin users. But it's more likely that tomorrow we'll have a zombie apocalypse than Craig Wright winning a case in court, with all these outlandish claims that he makes.
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I posted this earlier on a topic where another member has linked this topic and generally I don't feel that this news has really worth anything at all. After him pretending to be Satoshi Nakamoto now he is planning to destroy his own creation with a legal action which I think for a guy who is claiming to be him is really such a dumb move. Aside from that with all the years we have seen him talk about empty threats and lies I don't think this is a man to believe in all the things he is saying right now. At this point he will choose a path right now where he sues Bitcoin and drop the "I am Satoshi Nakamoto" act or just continue his case in court claiming the BTC he still haven't receive yet.
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Even if for the sake of argument we imagine that he somehow succeeds, it won't change much, Github might be forced to take some action with the Bitcoin repo and maybe some exchanges will have to rebrand their listing of Bitcoin, but CWS and the court are powerless to do anything to Bitcoin users. But it's more likely that tomorrow we'll have a zombie apocalypse than Craig Wright winning a case in court, with all these outlandish claims that he makes.
That's right we can't deny the fuck that mr Craig Wright was really somehow succeeds in life and many people are currently believing him especially those people who doesn't have any further knowledge about the cryptocurrency or the bitcoin, They are believing that Craig Wright was the real Satoshi Nakamoto.
Github or where technical people are into are the one who is kind of world that is full of people that are knowledgeable about the internet world and this is one of the reason why the bitcoin reputation succeeds also.



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This man is not paid to do this annoying thing. He makes a sensation that will be very useful for him, more talked about people who will make him more known. Many claims have been made.

Many people have started to be profiled by it. An advantage to advertise his shitcoin to stay alive.
All the claims he made could not be proven by valid data.

That's right!!! This person is only doing it to get publicity and cover even if that in the eyes of many is negative. Such a low-living person and it is despicable of him to threaten a community such as this. I hope at least that many people do realise he is but only a bad pawn in a long game. That said, I hope the damage is kept to a minimum.





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April 05, 2020, 11:47:20 PM
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in short: desperation as time goes by and he starts being forgotten and becoming more and more irrelevant, he will make more outrageous claims to provoke people to keep talking about him nonstop.

That's exactly it, and by giving him the pleasure of discussing his silly claims we're kinda falling into his game, just ignore and move on, that dude is a cancer to the community and should be treated as such. Though I do wonder how far he can take it with these claims
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he has to in his mind sty relevant because he soon wants to write a biography and some other books about his life and try to have enough relevance for people to actually buy it so that he can add a few more pennies into his scampot to hope it can pay back ones he previously scammed.

best way to think about is is anyone that believes CSW, are hoping/waiting to get paid by him
calvin ayres is the biggest example of someone wanting returns on his investment and will never just drop the act and call it a loss and distance himself from it

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Grabbing some popcorn and waiting for the moment Craig Wright will sue Satoshi for not being Craig Wright!
I stopped following his rambles a while ago but now that I checked the links...has he gone beyond full retard?

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Not sure why this nutcase is still relevant around. He's desperate for attention to further his scams.


Or what OP said, he's paid to troll.

This also from OP's link,

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All Bitcoin And Lightning Users Are Thieves

The next blog post from Wright is a real legal reach. Wright essentially says that if a Bitcoin (BTC) is stolen, then it is considered stolen property even if it is transacted 1,000 times after that.

Therefore, if Bitcoin (BTC) is stolen and ends up in the Lightning Network eventually, then everyone who passed it along within the Lightning Network is committing theft, and would be subject to a court order and criminal penalties.

Wright actually goes on to say that any Bitcoin (BTC) miners which take transaction fees from stolen Bitcoin (BTC) are committing criminal acts as well. By this logic, if anyone out there ended up receiving a Satoshi of a stolen Bitcoin (BTC), even if it was stolen years ago, they are a criminal.

In a nutshell, Wright is saying that everyone who uses Bitcoin (BTC) and the Lightning Network, including miners, are trafficking stolen goods.

There are many more crazy Craig Wright blog posts than the few covered in this article. It is not necessary to analyze them though, the general summary of any of Wright’s articles is that he hates the crypto space and really wishes he could destroy it, and then replace it with Bitcoin SV (BSV). Perhaps in some dystopian parallel universe this has already happened, but hopefully in this universe Wright loses his big lawsuit with the heirs of Dave Kleiman and becomes a harmless fugitive.


Isn't that the same as cash? If stolen money was laundered through a bank, and everyone made a withdrawal of the stolen fiat from that bank, then we are all criminals?

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The crypto community will soon be suing Craig because he is only hindering the development of the crypto industry.
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Plus why did Gavin Andresen introduce him, as THE "Satoshi", confuses me. Maybe he was scammed, and with his desperation to "steer" Bitcoin's development, and the community, I believe he thought that Craig Wright would be his best opportunity.

Roger Ver used him too, and it also backfired. Hahaha.

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Therefore, if Bitcoin (BTC) is stolen and ends up in the Lightning Network eventually, then everyone who passed it along within the Lightning Network is committing theft, and would be subject to a court order and criminal penalties.

the highlight part of 'if its stolen and end up in lightning...'

pause to take a breath... big mega technical flaw

bitcoins do not leave the blockchain. they simply cant. no one can take them out no one can even delete them. they are in the blockchain and only in the blockchain

lightning is a separate network with no blockchain. its units of measure are not even 8 decimals. in short they are not bitcoins
they are millisats. a totally different token/unit of measure

bitcoin does not have millisats

so CSW cant even win that debate.
LN is not bitcoin

i think this is the only time ill see a certain group finally realise this and use it as a talking point to prove that CSW cant win

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April 07, 2020, 10:49:32 AM
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Does he feel bad at all for what he did to Kleiman or is he just trying to create all this drama to hide his guilt for what he did? Can't believe we are still coming across people who support the guy when all he has said and done is plain for all to see. Amazing to see sometimes and be reminded even crypto has drama.

I think he is trying to hide his guilt, that is the whole story. To my opinion he doesn't feel bad and he thinks that all this drama and publicity will actually help him and turn the attention of public into different correction. It's not the first or last who tried something like this but I don't think he's going to succeed.

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I am shaking my head. This person is one of the most annoying people that I have seen in the cryptospace. Is he paid to do this? Who is paying him?


you are annoyed but keep on posting all the stupid words coming from Him ,if you will only ignore His statements i think this will person will be silence because no one is Buying those words.
The crypto community will soon be suing Craig because he is only hindering the development of the crypto industry.
He is crazy and out of His mind that's why he Keep on talking sh-ts in towards Bitcoin and this community.

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April 07, 2020, 11:32:46 AM
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The crypto community will soon be suing Craig because he is only hindering the development of the crypto industry.
He is crazy and out of His mind that's why he Keep on talking sh-ts in towards Bitcoin and this community.

a short sharp method isnt to sue CSW. as that is just more drama and more lengthy court cases keeping things relevant
CSW game is lengthy court cases.. he wants to string things along.

patent troll tactics is all about stringing things along with meaningless data requests to keep people running in circles until they decide its cheaper to settle.
thats the point.

even if you sue you. he will keep it active for so long you drop it. not due to you not having a case. but by him stalling and wasting time that it costs you money and you havnt even been able to get your point across yet.

the actual short sharp method is. if people like calvin ayres just cut his losses and gave up hope of returns on the investments CSW scammed from him. stopped backing him/funding him and actually just cut his losses.. basically switch sides and use any data gathered against CSW

I DO NOT TRADE OR ACT AS ESCROW ON THIS FORUM EVER.
Please do your own research & respect what is written here as both opinion & information gleaned from experience. many people replying with insults but no on-topic content substance, automatically are 'facepalmed' and yawned at
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April 07, 2020, 05:09:35 PM
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Plus why did Gavin Andresen introduce him,
The worst part is that he has never fully pulled back those claims. Ego is a helluva drug.
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April 07, 2020, 07:25:17 PM
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How come people are so interested in what he says? Is it because he is amusing? Much like the way a clown amuses a child? I can understand that  Grin I want to sue the USD and get USD for sueing it  Roll Eyes
What law is he talking about though? If he is so serious about this he would know exactly what law was broken why and how. Basically this is like wanting to sue a stop street sign. Did he even speak to a lawyer? A lawyet would tell him to shut up.

I think Craig has a mental illness that causes people to lie and say anything they have to for attention. People do it online and you probably know at least one person in your life that does this sort of thing. Tell wild tales for attention. This guy shouldn't annoy anyone though. He is a clown so take what he says and the honks of clowns horn.
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April 08, 2020, 10:20:40 AM
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Therefore, if Bitcoin (BTC) is stolen and ends up in the Lightning Network eventually, then everyone who passed it along within the Lightning Network is committing theft, and would be subject to a court order and criminal penalties.

the highlight part of 'if its stolen and end up in lightning...'

pause to take a breath... big mega technical flaw

bitcoins do not leave the blockchain. they simply cant. no one can take them out no one can even delete them. they are in the blockchain and only in the blockchain


You're right.

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lightning is a separate network with no blockchain. its units of measure are not even 8 decimals. in short they are not bitcoins
they are millisats. a totally different token/unit of measure


BUT, that's where you sow confusion, and misinform newbies that Lightning has "issued" its own altcoins like IOUs. It didn't. It's a network of smart contracts with transactions that are not broadcasted yet, between participants.

"Organized mempool" might be a more appropriate term.


Plus why did Gavin Andresen introduce him,


The worst part is that he has never fully pulled back those claims. Ego is a helluva drug.


I know one person who claims that it was Nick Szabo who "introduced/presented" him as the Satoshi. Cool

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April 09, 2020, 07:09:38 PM
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Probably not paid, but trying to stay relevant out of all this. Obviously, BTC is a hot topic right now and he is getting his head to it. He is not paid, but I am sure he is getting something in return which is way better than getting paid.
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April 10, 2020, 03:28:38 AM
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I am shaking my head. This person is one of the most annoying people that I have seen in the cryptospace. Is he paid to do this? Who is paying him?

He is being paid by his cult members, newbies who fail to realize that his scam coin is a pump and dump, and investors who just go with the flow. To be honest, he is getting close to a pron star now. Selling himself to boost his scam coin and get easy bucks by releasing ridiculous statements that the media would bite. Same old pattern. Everyone's getting tired at this point.
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April 10, 2020, 05:19:29 AM
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Craig Wright made such a statement even before he lost the lawsuit, trying to prove that he is the creator of bitcoin - Satoshi Nakamoto. Now his statements are of no significance. In the eyes of cryptocurrency users, Craig Wright will forever remain a clown who was trying to appropriate his national treasure, which is Bitcoin.

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April 21, 2020, 08:11:27 AM
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I am no legal advisor however I'm almost certain you cannot sue something like Bitcoin. you'll sue a characteristic or lawful individual however i can not help suspecting that Bitcoin is none. within the latter , the element need to be authoritatively enlisted and there must be somebody which will be considered capable. Since Bitcoin is decentralized yet Craig claims he's simply the maker, he should sues for overstepping the law, lol? 'Cause i do not perceive another alternative he can have. Gracious, and talking about him professing to be Satoshi, what's thereupon Tulip Trust stuff? He's obliged to pay half the cash to Kleiman's family, and since he unmistakably didn't, i do not comprehend why this person isn't in jail for manufacturing information/burglarizing closest companion/being an impostor? How comes he's despite everything doing fine and dandy, spreading his untruths?
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April 28, 2020, 10:58:32 PM
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Plus why did Gavin Andresen introduce him,
The worst part is that he has never fully pulled back those claims. Ego is a helluva drug.

Interesting coming from you Greg. I guess it takes an egomaniac to know one.
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April 29, 2020, 12:22:50 AM
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After he got busted being fake Satoshi Nakamoto and that had an impact on his fake Bitcoin that is slowly dying. He now wants to bring everything down along with him, maybe he thought he could foul the Crypto Community and make tons of money by copying Bitcoin to build his own business.
In my opinion his just a scammer trying to get rich.

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April 29, 2020, 12:25:46 AM
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After he got busted being fake Satoshi Nakamoto and that had an impact on his fake Bitcoin that is slowly dying. He now wants to bring everything down along with him, maybe he thought he could foul the Crypto Community and make tons of money by copying Bitcoin to build his own business.
In my opinion his just a scammer trying to get rich.

He's already rich numbnuts. Just because you are in the dark doesn't make everything you don't understand a scam.
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April 29, 2020, 04:55:43 AM
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He is already rich. What else does he want? He could be paid to do all these actually. But this will again go down to conspiracy theories again and we're all sick of it.
The one thing that is always going to happen is that he just can't promote his BSV without lifting BTC price up so he has to tell something negative about BTC.


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The crypto community should sue Craig so that he doesn't mislead newcomers.
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