Proof that Freebitco.in game is not provably fair.

[desertfox470]

While it is unlikely I don't see it as being impossible. It's kind of like losing a bunch of hands in bj. Sure it's highly unlikely to lose that many rolls in a row, but I'm sure a major amount or rolls every day are done on the site that would make abnormalities like this happen possibly.

[iv4n]

You can calculate if your number is the one they said it was...

IF thres anyone who has an old account of this site (freebitco.in, and i mean OLD, like under the USER ID: 600000) and dont use it, i would like to buy it, anyone interested send me and MP 

My account there is old, but not that much. User ID 1.535.000!
For people who wish to check hash and calculate number https://dicesites.com/provably-fair. Anyone can follow the steps and check any hash from any dice site. It was interesting for me to check hashes here and there in the beginning, but I don't do it anymore. Gambling is gambling, if you don't believe in casino choose another, if you need to check them all the time what's the point in that?!

A coin has two sides, an eagle and a tails.
How likely is the eagle to drop 13 times? The chance is quite small but it exists, and the tails can also drop out, not even 13 times, but as much as 1000 times, there is 0.0001%, but there is a chance to prove that this is not fair - it’s unrealistic.

Please try that by yourself, if you have patience and energy for that. Take a coin and throw it and write down results. Try that 1000 times or more, and you will see what can happen. Maybe you will have a longer streak than 13! If you try 10000 chances to have longer streak just got bigger.

[Degens]

Posts like this are why casinos make so much money.

[imstillthebest]

Posts like this are why casinos make so much money.

lol but why  ? because of secretly promoting it instead of complaining ? maybe thats true because i have seen simillar attempts like this on the past not just only on gambling but also on crypto coins as well . what happens is that peope are gonna get curios to check the site or that coin and then they could have tried it out , out of thier curiousity  .

anyway freebit is legit imo  , they are old enough on the gambling/faucet industry so why would people still  doudbt on thier game ?

[beerlover]

You can calculate if your number is the one they said it was...

IF thres anyone who has an old account of this site (freebitco.in, and i mean OLD, like under the USER ID: 600000) and dont use it, i would like to buy it, anyone interested send me and MP 

My account there is old, but not that much. User ID 1.535.000!
For people who wish to check hash and calculate number https://dicesites.com/provably-fair. Anyone can follow the steps and check any hash from any dice site. It was interesting for me to check hashes here and there in the beginning, but I don't do it anymore. Gambling is gambling, if you don't believe in casino choose another, if you need to check them all the time what's the point in that?!

Mine is quite old, it is 291k range, I don't know what that means or how that would really change anything at all, anyone who creates a brand new account and anyone who has an old account has the same chances that other people have, except of course I get a lot more for my freerolls because I have been wagering there for years now, considering I have been around here for probably over half a decade, I think it is fair that I am getting more for my freerolls but I have always get them so they are not that high, could have been even higher if I didn't claimed them but whats the point if they give me even 100 bitcoin per free roll if I am not going to get it, they can offer me a million bitcoins and wouldn't make a difference if I don't claim, so now its like 300 or so maybe 400 lately I don't recall. Everything else is exactly the same though.

[EdenHazard]

While it is unlikely I don't see it as being impossible. It's kind of like losing a bunch of hands in bj. Sure it's highly unlikely to lose that many rolls in a row, but I'm sure a major amount or rolls every day are done on the site that would make abnormalities like this happen possibly.

He just haven't realized that even getting 100times red in a row is a normal thing in gambling especially if you do the martingale, sayonara.

And you know what you can get 5 green in a row on 30x multiplier! I've experienced it. Isn't it sounds like unfair?
Unfortunately that's gambling.

[darewaller]

While it is unlikely I don't see it as being impossible. It's kind of like losing a bunch of hands in bj. Sure it's highly unlikely to lose that many rolls in a row, but I'm sure a major amount or rolls every day are done on the site that would make abnormalities like this happen possibly.

He just haven't realized that even getting 100times red in a row is a normal thing in gambling especially if you do the martingale, sayonara.

And you know what you can get 5 green in a row on 30x multiplier! I've experienced it. Isn't it sounds like unfair?
Unfortunately that's gambling.

This is basically the proof that some people still don't know what the odds are and what they mean. A 50% is a 50% and there is nothing changing that at all. You can gamble 10000 times and lose 10000 times and the next one still will be 50% chance to win and not suddenly lower because you had so many losses in a row.

Previous bets do not have anything to do with the future bets, all bets are individual and they should be seen and gambled that way. Of course, you would expect to win after certain time because 50% is half the chance to win equal chance to lose so you would think eventually you would win, but that doesn't have to happen just because you wish that to happen.

[desertfox470]

While it is unlikely I don't see it as being impossible. It's kind of like losing a bunch of hands in bj. Sure it's highly unlikely to lose that many rolls in a row, but I'm sure a major amount or rolls every day are done on the site that would make abnormalities like this happen possibly.

He just haven't realized that even getting 100times red in a row is a normal thing in gambling especially if you do the martingale, sayonara.

And you know what you can get 5 green in a row on 30x multiplier! I've experienced it. Isn't it sounds like unfair?
Unfortunately that's gambling.

This is basically the proof that some people still don't know what the odds are and what they mean. A 50% is a 50% and there is nothing changing that at all. You can gamble 10000 times and lose 10000 times and the next one still will be 50% chance to win and not suddenly lower because you had so many losses in a row.

Previous bets do not have anything to do with the future bets, all bets are individual and they should be seen and gambled that way. Of course, you would expect to win after certain time because 50% is half the chance to win equal chance to lose so you would think eventually you would win, but that doesn't have to happen just because you wish that to happen.

This. The bets are unique and don't rely on previous bets. The 50% means 50/50 win loss. Not just you lost one so the next is a guaranteed win. I think that's where a lot of people kind of get messed up thinking that losing 4 in a row can't happen.

[so98nn]

not quite, i have had more rounds today, i lost 10 times on another round , but i won 1 times and recovered my lost satoshi, say wathever u say this is not a provably fair game... also a friend played some months ago and he lost 17 times in a round, for y'all if you dont want to risk your satoshi, dont bet on this website.

Tell you what. While I think there's no way for us to really find out if the "win chance" percentage is actually legitimate or not and while I'm definitely no probability or statistics expert, even if we manually set it to 50%(hence lower potential winnings), having such a losing streak is in no way impossible. And taking note that you had your multiplier set to 2 hence your chances of winning is lower than 50%(47.50%). Don't underestimate the -2.5% difference.

Even with that 2.5% house is at its winning side already. I guess OP will have to play more often to increase the odds of winning. Frankly speaking its all about money business and I have read threads who summed up that "more your play, higher your winning chances"

Off-course it is always part your consistency which will bring back the losses along the way.

Why is it that every few months there is someone who is surprised their "Martingaling strategy" has suddenly failed due to >15+ losses in a row.

We have all been there. We discover dice and see how easy it is to make money. Basically bet $1 and if you lose, bet $2 next round and you will always win. Its impossible to get over 10 losses in a row correct? Wrong.

I think I was cleaned out before with like 15-16 reds in a row on 50/50 dice a few years back. Basically built up my account for weeks with martingale and eventually it failed that one time and lost the entire account.

Yes. The Martingale Strategy. Been on the tip of my tongue since my first reply and simply didn't mention it instead because I forgot what it was called. Been a victim of that too in the past when I was in my younger years. You quickly learned that for that strategy to be viable in the slightest, you would need A LOT more capital than what you thought. I completely underestimated how fast the doubling could grow.

Martingaling : That is something really new for me. That's the learning today from gambling side. I will research more on this strategy on my own to see the chances of winning.

[Saint-loup]

While it is unlikely I don't see it as being impossible. It's kind of like losing a bunch of hands in bj. Sure it's highly unlikely to lose that many rolls in a row, but I'm sure a major amount or rolls every day are done on the site that would make abnormalities like this happen possibly.

He just haven't realized that even getting 100times red in a row is a normal thing in gambling especially if you do the martingale, sayonara.

And you know what you can get 5 green in a row on 30x multiplier! I've experienced it. Isn't it sounds like unfair?
Unfortunately that's gambling.

This is basically the proof that some people still don't know what the odds are and what they mean. A 50% is a 50% and there is nothing changing that at all. You can gamble 10000 times and lose 10000 times and the next one still will be 50% chance to win and not suddenly lower because you had so many losses in a row.

Previous bets do not have anything to do with the future bets, all bets are individual and they should be seen and gambled that way. Of course, you would expect to win after certain time because 50% is half the chance to win equal chance to lose so you would think eventually you would win, but that doesn't have to happen just because you wish that to happen.

I wouldn't say it's 50-50% because statistically you will encounter more often 3 losses in a row streaks than 4 in a row ones. And more often "10000" losses in a row streaks than 10001 in a row ones. So statistically you have more chances to win and to get a smaller loss streak than to lose and to get a longer one...

[adzino]

I don't know why anyone would play at Freebitco.in. They used to be a faucet if I remember correctly. And then I think they started providing lottery where people could use their faucet winnings to buy lottery tickets. Gradually they introduced dice or probably came with lottery, not sure.
Anyway, why would you even go and play there when there are lot of other well known casinos? Look at their house edge. Its a total turn off. There are casinos that provides house edge lower than 1% (crypto-games.net has like around 0.8% house edge). Play over there, you have better chance of winning.

[Leviathan.007]

I don't why anyone would play at Freebitco.in. They used to be a faucet if I remember correctly. And then I think they started providing lottery where people could use their faucet winnings to buy lottery tickets. Gradually they introduced dice or probably came with lottery, not sure.
Anyway, why would you even go and play there when there are lot of other well known casinos? Look at their house edge. Its a total turn off. There are casinos that provides house edge lower than 1% (crypto-games.net has like around 0.8% house edge). Play over there, you have better chance of winning.

I agree, as a faucet they are well-known. I was the first faucet serves I even used.
However, I saw the proof provided by the thread creator. He actually missed one thing. even if the change to win is 50% still it doesn't mean that you will win 5 game out of 10 games. The algorithm is competently random, but yes there still a chance for the game provider to make some little tricks.

[AmoreJaz]

While it is unlikely I don't see it as being impossible. It's kind of like losing a bunch of hands in bj. Sure it's highly unlikely to lose that many rolls in a row, but I'm sure a major amount or rolls every day are done on the site that would make abnormalities like this happen possibly.

He just haven't realized that even getting 100times red in a row is a normal thing in gambling especially if you do the martingale, sayonara.

And you know what you can get 5 green in a row on 30x multiplier! I've experienced it. Isn't it sounds like unfair?
Unfortunately that's gambling.

This is basically the proof that some people still don't know what the odds are and what they mean. A 50% is a 50% and there is nothing changing that at all. You can gamble 10000 times and lose 10000 times and the next one still will be 50% chance to win and not suddenly lower because you had so many losses in a row.

Previous bets do not have anything to do with the future bets, all bets are individual and they should be seen and gambled that way. Of course, you would expect to win after certain time because 50% is half the chance to win equal chance to lose so you would think eventually you would win, but that doesn't have to happen just because you wish that to happen.

This. The bets are unique and don't rely on previous bets. The 50% means 50/50 win loss. Not just you lost one so the next is a guaranteed win. I think that's where a lot of people kind of get messed up thinking that losing 4 in a row can't happen.

i think thats what theyre missing here. and also maybe the op is new in dice game?? this is very possible to happen tbh..i hope he will change his stance on freebitco after realising some facts here..

[Saint-loup]

I don't why anyone would play at Freebitco.in. They used to be a faucet if I remember correctly. And then I think they started providing lottery where people could use their faucet winnings to buy lottery tickets. Gradually they introduced dice or probably came with lottery, not sure.
Anyway, why would you even go and play there when there are lot of other well known casinos? Look at their house edge. Its a total turn off. There are casinos that provides house edge lower than 1% (crypto-games.net has like around 0.8% house edge). Play over there, you have better chance of winning.

On freebitcoin there is a sportsbook where you can bet on many events.
Does crypto-games offer that feature?

[ultrloa]

I don't why anyone would play at Freebitco.in. They used to be a faucet if I remember correctly. And then I think they started providing lottery where people could use their faucet winnings to buy lottery tickets. Gradually they introduced dice or probably came with lottery, not sure.
Anyway, why would you even go and play there when there are lot of other well known casinos? Look at their house edge. Its a total turn off. There are casinos that provides house edge lower than 1% (crypto-games.net has like around 0.8% house edge). Play over there, you have better chance of winning.

They supposed to be a faucet site before but when I think their High/low and lottery click to the public they upgrade and became a gambling site.

But since they used to run for quite a long time for sure many people thinks that they are reputable and quitely they are impressive for giving a good game as of now, so maybe this is the reason why people play their and I quitely like this site.

[stomachgrowls]

I don't why anyone would play at Freebitco.in. They used to be a faucet if I remember correctly. And then I think they started providing lottery where people could use their faucet winnings to buy lottery tickets. Gradually they introduced dice or probably came with lottery, not sure.
Anyway, why would you even go and play there when there are lot of other well known casinos? Look at their house edge. Its a total turn off. There are casinos that provides house edge lower than 1% (crypto-games.net has like around 0.8% house edge). Play over there, you have better chance of winning.

On freebitcoin there is a sportsbook where you can bet on many events.
Does crypto-games offer that feature?

In behalf of adzino-- No they havent but they have lots of variety of games that you can play on.   When it comes to dice then this site do have the lowest house edge.


On topic, freebitco.in is been trusted for years and they wont last for years upto now if they arent fair at all or they're doing shady stuffs..

[STT]

Martin is a pleb, dont do that.   It dont work from multiple perspectives, mostly imo because it never really pays alot just repays prior loss so pointless risk as OP gives details on; these streaks can happen.

It should be unlikely but I agree none of these games were ever in your favour so thats a bad starting point to be in disappointment, you arent owed anything in fact you know for sure the odds are against you.
  However it should be unlikely to get 13 repeats in a row, I put it into a calculator for odds and its far less then 1% chance in theory.   Alot of people dont like theories, they want definite but that aint gambling sadly :p

The conclusion of failure or corruption has to be weighed against the millions of players who attempt the same thing.   Just very roughly, the odds shown above are 1 in 4344 so for every amount of customers who play this game it can happen.    I would advise you to stream your games gambling, as a record and proof and if you are correct and there is unfair bias it will show up.

[nakamura12]

In short, most gambling sites are mostly in favor of the house that means when you are going to gamble the result would be more likely that you' lose and seldomyl wins. That is why it's called gamble because if you alsways win then it is not gamble at all but a giveaway or free.

[acdc]

Surely you are not the only case, I guess 90% of people who used to play frebitco have encountered a situation of losing many times in a row in a short time.
I also encountered the same situation, constantly losing dozens of times in a short time. Although it is entirely possible, the chance that you lose 10 times in a row is very small.

[carlfebz2]

Surely you are not the only case, I guess 90% of people who used to play frebitco have encountered a situation of losing many times in a row in a short time.
I also encountered the same situation, constantly losing dozens of times in a short time. Although it is entirely possible, the chance that you lose 10 times in a row is very small.

This isnt only applied on Freebitco alone but in all dice sites as well no matter how big their house edge or small it is.Tendency or chance of losing streak is inevitable and 10x lose in a row is indeed small.I do even experience 20x in a row which totally burn all of my balance in a blink of an eye..First of when i was a newbie then it do give out that kind of question on mind on hows that possible but later on i realize
on how do thing works and we shouldnt really expect too much that making money is easy as hell.Freebitco is reputable and been known by many btw and they arent shady at all-- OP just got burned by typical losing streaks that he might even not experience before.