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[ChuckBuck]

So the team decided to ask u to help them to verification all the data from them.

I few questions for you, did you have the ability to make due diligence:

• Checking license gambling.
• The legality of the company
• And other all forms of requirements regarding gambling & casino legality.

I asking this question, based on your activity with "Last Thread Created" by you. I don't see a single thread/experience, busted a scam project that's why it's kinda worrying you can't really check the authenticity of the legality.

I mean we all know their slogan about "Decentralized Betting Casino" is not really decentralized since they still handle all money of the customer like winning and withdrawal also they need KYC too. If they want to do it a gambling system same like their slogan, sure they making a smart contract betting went all betting running automatically on the smart contract.

No, I just received a message, they said they could provide any evidence I need to prove that their platform is good. I told them to post them here, so I came here to give the information I had, and waited for their documents. I do not help them in any way. I just do what I should do - request public information here.
In terms of decentralization and KYC, I think someone has asked to remove that information above, I think it is not difficult to edit the title.

So why gamblers should choose your platform since there is lots of legit platforms exist?

I cannot answer your question but I have another question. If everyone is focused on the big casinos then who will be the customers for the new casinos? (I'm talking about the real casinos). The search for new casinos is also a good idea, because it gives new casinos the opportunity to compete and thrive, of course new casinos also need something special to compete.

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[Danslip]

Stay away from this site and users
This guy has been accused of fraud with a fake project, fake team and more, check out his trust about the evidence of fraud. With a site like this, I believe people will be at a high risk of losing money if they make any transactions. The site looks nice but it is deceptive, careful. Don't waste any of your money here  

Opening a brand-new copper member account and promoting the new betting platform will be their best alternative. I agree with you, the transparent team will think every aspect of the marketing seriously. Exit scam is loading...

First of all, this account is over a year now. We are not trying to hide behind anything. Admittedly. we had some issues with our account in the past. A fake person will create a new identity to start something else but no, we are real and legit. We are sticking to our account and identity and we will correct all previous issues we had in the past. We learned from those experience and we are trying to do something better and useful as you can see.

Nice! TBH, I want to believe in your legitimacy and transparency, otherwise there is no meaning to debate the same issues over and over. Hope the trust issues will be cleared in the near future and you will be able to run a decent campaigns in the forum. Doing the first step is always hard part.

[Haunebu]

Running Signature campaign or any other huge promotion doesn't prove your legitimacy. I have doubts any reputed manager will take over your campaign and put them on risk. Before running campaigns or hire reputed managers you should remove red tag from your profile. I have seen I was the first DT member who have left negative feedback on your profile for use fake team. After a year you back again with your platform.

They think that running a signature campaign will forgive all their past issues just like that. If some manager actually agreed and if posters advertised it around the forum, it would basically be Yobit all over again causing issues for both the manager and the posters.

In certain cases, signature campaigns can turn things around. For example, Bestchange was criticized heavily initially and had many neg ratings, but they turned that around in a short period thanks to their own hard work and dedication. I doubt the same will happen in this case though.

[ChuckBuck]

In certain cases, signature campaigns can turn things around. For example, Bestchange was criticized heavily initially and had many neg ratings, but they turned that around in a short period thanks to their own hard work and dedication. I doubt the same will happen in this case though.

No, it is not. May I digress. You are misunderstanding. The case of Bestchange is different. I have asked about Bestchange before, they are a reputable website that has operated for a long time, not a new platform. The Bestchange issue revolves around their russian website with a similar domain. This sparked suspicion, after which it was resolved and most of the negative beliefs were removed. Bestchange is reputable + an extensive signature campaign, so it was interested. The signature campaign will have no impact if the platform is fraudulent, such as Kawbet and 1xbet.

[TalkStar]

They think that running a signature campaign will forgive all their past issues just like that.

Maybe its a thinking of their own but in real sense its not so easy to erase their past doings. In some cases they may get some users for a shorter period but people will not be interested to use their platform for long time. Trust is always a big fact on any kinda business and its hard to achieve.

The signature campaign will have no impact if the platform is fraudulent, such as Kawbet and 1xbet.

Kawbet have already closed their campaign after raising proper accusation against their platform. In that situation kawbet campaign manager confessed that he wasn’t notify about kawbet connection with 1xbet. Before taking the management work of any signature campaign every manager should know detail about that platform and their legality. If any manager starts to manage the campaign after knowing that existing platform is not fair with users or have previous scam records then its nothing but encouraging them to continue their scam game.

In the meantime manager will lose his reputation too. So i don't think that any well reputated manager will love to manage any fraudulent platforms signature campaign.

[ryzaadit]

No, I just received a message, they said they could provide any evidence I need to prove that their platform is good. I told them to post them here, so I came here to give the information I had, and waited for their documents. I do not help them in any way. I just do what I should do - request public information here.

I bet they can't prove it.

They even not make a single comment on the scam assumption for more than 1 year.

So why gamblers should choose your platform since there is lots of legit platforms exist?

If everyone is focused on the big casinos then who will be the customers for the new casinos? (I'm talking about the real casinos). The search for new casinos is also a good idea, because it gives new casinos the opportunity to compete and thrive, of course new casinos also need something special to compete.

That was said by @Coolcryptovator is an "legit" casino platform, including big or small casinos. What he wants to tell is, we have a lot of casino big and small casino with a legit reputation and legality, why we should use this casino, went this casino has a bad trust of their platform.

Even if the casino decide to use their own identity, I still don't want to use their platform.

[betnomi]

That was said by @Coolcryptovator is an "legit" casino platform, including big or small casinos. What he wants to tell is, we have a lot of casino big and small casino with a legit reputation and legality, why we should use this casino, went this casino has a bad trust of their platform.
Even if the casino decide to use their own identity, I still don't want to use their platform.

We have addressed these issues on the previous page. For some reason, almost everyone just kept spewing exact same thing because they have seen someone else say something similar. It will be helpful and save everyone's time if, you would take the time to read previous comments before making one. We are a legit, registered, regulated and licensed casino. Its been over a year one since we first launched our project. Please point one person who said we scammed them. No one ever said we scammed them and you know why, because we never did. Just screaming something is a scam doesn't make it one.  We are a small team trying to build something meaningful and worthwhile from the ground up. You can either support us which we will greatly appreciate or don't. But what we don't appreciate is making baseless and mindless accusations.

[The Cryptovator]

So why gamblers should choose your platform since there is lots of legit platforms exist?

I cannot answer your question but I have another question. If everyone is focused on the big casinos then who will be the customers for the new casinos? (I'm talking about the real casinos).

Your question isn't appropriate regarding this casino. We should welcome new casino if they are legit. But when there will some red flags on a casino which is very important then we should avoid it. Their red flag is very clear and they have punished for it. That's the reason why I have asked this question.

In certain cases, signature campaigns can turn things around. For example, Bestchange was criticized heavily initially and had many neg ratings, but they turned that around in a short period thanks to their own hard work and dedication. I doubt the same will happen in this case though.

Both case is different. BestChange was criticized due to escrow find and we told we should have remove tag when they will pay accordingly. Regarding other accusations they are friendly enough to solve them. But BETNOMI used fake team and they was failed to provide appropriate evidence to proof their legitimacy. So either they run signature campaign or not the fact will never change. I have doubts that any reputed manager will handle their campaign and probably DT members will prevent them to run campaign is they like to run by themselves. Also I believe theymos wouldn't accept their auction if they like to use forum banner ads as well.

[ChuckBuck]

In the meantime manager will lose his reputation too. So i don't think that any well reputated manager will love to manage any fraudulent platforms signature campaign.

No no, you misunderstood me. I'm talking about the impact of the signature campaign on the credibility of a platform, if it's a scam platform, there's no impact here.

They even not make a single comment on the scam assumption for more than 1 year.

They had here

First of all, this account is over a year now. We are not trying to hide behind anything. Admittedly. we had some issues with our account in the past. A fake person will create a new identity to start something else but no, we are real and legit. We are sticking to our account and identity and we will correct all previous issues we had in the past. We learned from those experience and we are trying to do something better and useful as you can see.

Both case is different. BestChange was criticized due to escrow find and we told we should have remove tag when they will pay accordingly. Regarding other accusations they are friendly enough to solve them. But BETNOMI used fake team and they was failed to provide appropriate evidence to proof their legitimacy. So either they run signature campaign or not the fact will never change. I have doubts that any reputed manager will handle their campaign and probably DT members will prevent them to run campaign is they like to run by themselves. Also I believe theymos wouldn't accept their auction if they like to use forum banner ads as well.

We meet in this thought  The signature campaign will never work for a phishing campaign, the case he gave is asymmetric to compare.

[betnomi]

I think you are stupid! Do you know what a phishing campaign is? Look at the platform does it look like something that is designed to scam?
It cost thousands of dollars to develop and maintain. You have no idea what you are talking about. You are being paid by some other casino and doing their bidding.
We do not need people like you here, there are multiple people playing on our platform and not even one of them is complaining about anything!

[Bttzed03]

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About the documents and other such details, this are required by the licensing authorities. Currently, we are only accepting cryptocurrencies for the platform and we are working with the platform provider to eliminate these requirements in the next few days.
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What requirements are you trying to eliminate with the platform provider? Is the documents that you require users to submit? If so, why ask the platform provider and not go directly to the licensing authorities?

Since you are currently accepting cryptocurrencies only, does your current withdrawal policy applies? It appears that what's written there are for fiat/card transactions.

29.1 Payments are processed in a time not exceeding 72 hours starting from the moment that the request was made. Before the first payment will be made to the User by electronic payment methods (Skrill, credit or debit card, etc.), the client is obliged to attach an electronic copy of a passport to the Documents section to confirm their identity. Remember that forgery is severely punished by law, and in cases of suspicion of placing a counterfeit or an edited copy of the documents by electronic methods, Betnomi reserves the right to send such documents to the appropriate regulatory authorities.

But if it applies to the above, do you not plan on relaxing those policies a bit? Like setting a minimum withdrawal/deposit before requiring KYC verification?

[Haunebu]

I think you are stupid! Do you know what a phishing campaign is? Look at the platform does it look like something that is designed to scam?
It cost thousands of dollars to develop and maintain. You have no idea what you are talking about. You are being paid by some other casino and doing their bidding.
We do not need people like you here, there are multiple people playing on our platform and not even one of them is complaining about anything!

This kind of behavior will prove detrimental to you op. You guys have been part of a scam in the past whether you accept it or not and criticism is expected which is why it would be better to focus on addressing the issues rather than shouting at every other person who criticizes you.

What requirements are you trying to eliminate with the platform provider? Is the documents that you require users to submit? If so, why ask the platform provider and not go directly to the licensing authorities?

This whole KYC requirement is stupid since there are much better alternatives out there which don't require KYC. Betnomi needs to remove this condition asap.

[ChuckBuck]

I think you are stupid! Do you know what a phishing campaign is? Look at the platform does it look like something that is designed to scam?
It cost thousands of dollars to develop and maintain. You have no idea what you are talking about. You are being paid by some other casino and doing their bidding.
We do not need people like you here, there are multiple people playing on our platform and not even one of them is complaining about anything!

Why are you upset with us? We are saying that if a fraudulent project, nothing can help it. It is a conditional clause, that is if. What you need to do is provide documents and evidence to prove it. Have you done that? If you think you will always have customers without proving you here, it will be a big mistake for you. In fact, since you've got the wound here, be wise to make the wound fade

[YOSHIE]

We are saying that if a fraudulent project, nothing can help it. It is a conditional clause, that is if.

No one trusts them on gambling sites especially their betting platform BETNOMI.

Everyone can talk nonsense here, when their money is gone and drained, BETNOMI is at high risk.

Topic: [SCAM] BETNOMI - Fake team, ID and Linkedin used without owner authorizations

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Maybe, just a fool who wants to throw away his money at gambling sites, betnomi.
Fake teams don't imagine that all your money can be drained within seconds if you bet on their platform site.
Find a gambling betting platform that is safe for you.

[ryzaadit]

^[1]I think you are stupid! Do you know what a phishing campaign is? Look at the platform does it look like something that is designed to scam?
It cost thousands of dollars to develop and maintain. You have no idea what you are talking about. ^[2]You are being paid by some other casino and doing their bidding.
^[3]We do not need people like you here, there are multiple people playing on our platform and not even one of them is complaining about anything!

^[1]Thousand of dolar?

Kinda joke for me, now explain to us why u copy-paste other casino word from "Suprabet" and a few casinos have the same word as you.

According to who.is information suprabet was registered in 2016, so basically they the first then you:

Domain Name: SUPRABETS.COM
Registry Domain ID: 2057624394_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.domain.com
Registrar URL: http://www.domain.com
Updated Date: 2018-08-17T09:37:27Z
Creation Date: 2016-09-06T18:06:06Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2023-09-06T18:06:06Z
Registrar: Domain.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 886
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: compliance@domain-inc.net
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: 602-226-2389
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited
Name Server: HANK.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
Name Server: LILY.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned

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24/7
 Suprabets.com provides 24/7 online betting availability by taking bets on all major and most minor leagues, cups and tournaments in a wide variety of sports and competitions throughout the world.

Suprabets.com accepts wagers on more than 50 categories of sports and events - not only the most popular sports, but also poker, politics, TV and e-sports such as Star Craft, DOTA 2.

Copy-paste :

Betnomi.com provides 24/7 online betting availability by taking bets on all major and most minor leagues, cups and tournaments in a wide variety of sports and competitions throughout the world.

Betnomi.com accepts wagers on more than 50 categories of sports and events - not only the most popular sports, but also poker, politics, TV and e-sports such as Star Craft, DOTA 2.

Thats one of the example, "300 Trader" and "Reliable" content probably copy-paste too.

Spending thousands of dollars just a copy-paste word? God sake.

^[2]We are telling the reality, with the proof.

Now you have another problem "Trust" and "Plagiarism" content.

^[3]Cause you new, and trying to gain trust, so more user can get bait by you.

The strategy could be the same as Ponzi scheme, went they offering a Ponzi service offering a percentage returns they will pay first making them sound legit. After the fund they already collected already enough, they running out away with the money.

With this case, a fake team + plagiarism did everyone still trust you?

That's my last comment about this, it seems like they already don't have a single word/prove to defend themself because of that they now trying accusing other people.

Edit : Now u have the same design web like the oldest theme from vbet?



Still telling a thousand dollar website ?

[betnomi]

There is no plagiarism being done here! We did not write the content on the website. As I said, the platform is provided by a reputable third party who has been in this business for over 15 years. They have many other clients. That which you see is one of their default templates and moreover, that content is not supposed to be available for public viewing as of now. Our sportsbook and casino is being set up on that page. These, I have addressed in the previous comments. Your plagiarism charge is simply a conjecture. You guys we welcome to ask any questions and demand answers. Scrutinize our project as much as you can. I am here to answer and provide all forms of documentation where applicable. I just kindly request all you not to level charges which have no basis.

I am Sorsis, the co-founder of the project. The idea that we had a "Fake Team" is completely absurd. There were five people on our team at the time and 3 of these people, no one is questioning their identity because they have verified profiles including myself.  Only two were in question and being labeled as a fake team. So, your charge is, we had three legit people and 2 fake people?  dumb right?   

One of those people was the "Adviser" for our project. We signed an agreement and agreed to pay him a specific amount. After our project launched, and all the profile was published ICO trackers which of course he agreed to, He demanded a substantial increase in his payments which I rejected. Because of this, he opted out of the team and claimed we used his profile without authorization. Funny enough, I have all records of the signed agreement and communications with him.

The second fake person, who was one of our developers from Pakistan, had a pretty bad image and our team decided to make some adjustments to make to look a little acceptable. But, This was no fake team. Everyone on the team is a real person and our project is legit.
I will admit we did some pretty sloppy job with our canceled ICO but, that was all it was sloppy, not scammy.

Thank you guys all for reading and will address any further concerns or comments.

[betnomi]

I think you are stupid! Do you know what a phishing campaign is? Look at the platform does it look like something that is designed to scam?
It cost thousands of dollars to develop and maintain. You have no idea what you are talking about. You are being paid by some other casino and doing their bidding.
We do not need people like you here, there are multiple people playing on our platform and not even one of them is complaining about anything!

This kind of behavior will prove detrimental to you op. You guys have been part of a scam in the past whether you accept it or not and criticism is expected which is why it would be better to focus on addressing the issues rather than shouting at every other person who criticizes you.

What requirements are you trying to eliminate with the platform provider? Is the documents that you require users to submit? If so, why ask the platform provider and not go directly to the licensing authorities?

This whole KYC requirement is stupid since there are much better alternatives out there which don't require KYC. Betnomi needs to remove this condition asap.

We are talking with the platform provider to eliminate the entire KYC requirements, and nope, we can not go directly to the licensing authorities because we obtained our license through the platform provider based on their RNG and other licensing requirements. The platform provider makes these calls not us. That one good reason to understand our platform is legit. We no not control the games and its results. Unless you want to say a company with over 3000 employees and been in this business for over 15 years is a scam.

[nakamura12]

It is true that having campaigns doesn't mean it's legit. Base on previous reply many people don't like creating an account with so many information needed. They will prefer to gamble on a proven legit and also creating an account doesn't need so much personal details and keep the players anonymously.

[betnomi]

It is true that having campaigns doesn't mean it's legit. Base on previous reply many people don't like creating an account with so many information needed. They will prefer to gamble on a proven legit and also creating an account doesn't need so much personal details and keep the players anonymously.

I am aware of this issue, this was one of the first concern i raised with the platform provider.
The system itself is built to keep players pretty Anonymous like mixing or hashing the players email address/ username but the KYC requirement for withdrawal is not
idea considering this is a casino. Believe me, this is being addressed right now and will be taken care of.

Thanks.

[Ryker1]

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The system itself is built to keep players pretty Anonymous like mixing or hashing the players email address/ username but the KYC requirement for withdrawal is not
idea considering this is a casino. Believe me, this is being addressed right now and will be taken care of.

Thanks.

Well, I mentioned this in my previous post on the first page that most likely gamblers here are always wanted anonymous account and they will not reveal their identity in most casinos. Your KYC requirements are too much and perhaps email address verification pretty good enough as a document to register your platform.
Indeed, I hope that your endeavor is a way to become your company successful and you can overcome these trials now. Legitimately is a must of this forum and you can't blame people here.