SCAM: Tao 2 by Bryce Weiner is an un-attributed clone of TomoChain

[ACGCrypto]

so would defrauding your dead parents and being a fugitive from your home state speak to someone's reputation?

Switched accounts again, huh? You really don't have any new material, do you Stinky Sam? Boring. 

[nutildah]

None of anything you just said refutes these central points:

1. Bryce Weiner has a long-time reputation in the crypto community as a scam artist.
2. He copied a project without crediting its source.
3. He plagiarized the descriptive text of a project and called it his own.

For the sake of argument, let's just assume I own every single account that has criticized Bryce Weiner in the Tao thread (that's at least a dozen, probably more): how does that debunk any of the 3 points stated above? It doesn't.

I already explained to you that this is enough to get any project on the forum tagged as a scam, and we're not making an exception for Bryce Weiner. The best chance you have of making things right is to just fuck off from this forum. It's not going to be a launchpad for yet another Weinercoin scam.

[ACGCrypto]

1) almost all of that reputation is due to you repeating claims
2 & 3) is still incorrect as I already explained since you seem as willfully ignorant of how cloning a cryptocurrency works as you are of what constitutes a scam

None of anything you just said refutes these central points:

1. Bryce Weiner has a long-time reputation in the crypto community as a scam artist.

Yes it does, you nitwit.

Of course, I have to spell it out for you. Of course. 

It's very simple.

An accusation by itself does not constitute evidence of a scam.

There is no evidence of a scam, or I would not be posting about it on the site.

The Tao thread documents that I have been perfectly open to listening to a strong, well-reasoned and evidenced argument from you over the multiple years you have stalked and harassed me.

Just because you create fake personas to claim something is true, it doesn't make it so. Understand?

Stop with your circular reasoning and confirmation bias.

It's fucking stupid and you're just sad.

Your entire justification for opening this thread is your mildly incoherent plagiarism argument, which is built either upon a wild disregard for honesty, or a complete lack of understanding of the very basics of cryptocurrency.

I mean, seriously. It's pathetic.

This itself not only makes you a fraud presenting yourself as a jOuRnaLISt, but too inept in the domain of crypto to have any idea what the hell is going on and be able to comment about it.

I mean seriously, you're just embarrassing yourself. Cease.

2. He copied a project without crediting its source.

He did not. You are either a liar or a fucking incompetent.

He cloned an open source project, maintaining the entire history of commits with credit to each and every individual and project involved going all the way back to Ethereum and Vitalik.

That is crediting its source, and you would know this if you had any idea what you are talking about. But you don't.

3. He plagiarized the descriptive text of a project and called it his own.

This is false. There is no time that I am aware of where Bryce said that the descriptive text in the readme file was his own. It didn't happen.


But more importantly, the descriptive text in the readme file is in fact not the same text, it is entirely unique and specific to Tao.

And it specifically mentions and praises the Tomochain project as the source for the codebase.

That's in addition, of course, to the over 11,300 individual commits you can see with a trivial effort in the history of revisions that right there in the repository. 


How do you not know that after several years "in" crypto?

How can you be so incredibly basic?

Or was it that you actually did know this and you're just that pathetically dishonest?

Neither one is a good look, buddy.


Anyway, get your eyes checked it's right there in the repository of this as yet released, in-development piece of software which you think is plagiarized because you have no fucking clue what you're doing. 


https://github.com/taoblockchain/tao2

For the sake of argument, let's just assume I own every single account that has criticized Bryce Weiner in the Tao thread (that's at least a dozen, probably more): how does that debunk any of the 3 points stated above? It doesn't.

There's no basis to your three statements as I've established. So your comment is irrelevant.

What this does establish quite clearly to anyone reading this is that you are a stalker who has used dishonest and unethical methods to persistently harass and act aggressively towards someone who was simply posting updates about a cryptocurrency in the appropriate forum on this site.

Something which I have every right to do, and which you have no say in.

It establishes that you are the asshole.

You are the bad guy, C.

I'll say it again.

Be a better fucking person.

I already explained to you that this is enough to get any project on the forum tagged as a scam, and we're not making an exception for Bryce Weiner. The best chance you have of making things right is to just fuck off from this forum. It's not going to be a launchpad for yet another Weinercoin scam.

"We're not making an exception" 

Who the fuck do you think you are? You're fucking nobody.


You are literally a crystallization of all of the worst, least important, most toxic, and most detrimental and unwanted part of the crypto community.  You're trash.

People like you are the reason crypto has a bad reputation among normal folk.

You are an impediment to mass adoption and a useless eater.

You do nothing and add nothing but puff yourself up and act like a bully because I think deep down you know every word I'm saying is true.

So you need to fuck right off, you spoiled and uninformed little fucking child.

[Lauda]

That's in addition, of course, to the over 11,300 individual commits you can see with a trivial effort in the history of revisions that right there in the repository.  

I have just checked the last page, and most of your commits are individual and trivial 1 line changes i.e. SPAM commits. Quantity has nothing to do with quality. This project is a scam and it will remain tagged as such.
nutildah time create a flag against ACGCrypto and add it to OP. I will support it.

[nutildah]

I thought I should address ACGCrypto's last comment, but have cut out all the pointless shit talking.

1) almost all of that reputation is due to you repeating claims
2 & 3) is still incorrect as I already explained since you seem as willfully ignorant of how cloning a cryptocurrency works as you are of what constitutes a scam

None of anything you just said refutes these central points:

1. Bryce Weiner has a long-time reputation in the crypto community as a scam artist.

...It's very simple.

An accusation by itself does not constitute evidence of a scam.

There is no evidence of a scam, or I would not be posting about it on the site.

There's tons of evidence. It's been presented in various forms for over 5 years now. Let's start with this as it is directly related to Tao:

Why did Hakim Draper drop out of the project?  was he the connection to the ODB estate?  
Whats the reason for the pivot away from celebrity endorsed tokens?  it seems like the mission of fanmix is to onboard indie artists, right?

Here we have Hakim Draper, who despite leaving the project over a year and a half ago is still referenced on the Tao website as a "project founder," directly acknowledging having been ripped off by Bryce Weiner. Seems like Bryce could have edited his documents to reflect Draper's departure at some point since September 2019, that is, if he wasn't still using his name and connections to shill Tao.
 
Not to mention the various problems people have been having with Bryce's alt.market exchange:

I just wrapped up a miserable experience with AltMarket, the official home of TAO/XTO

I had to open a new account since the 2FA codes stopped coming to my KryptoDoog email address (the community’s response to this, btw, was not to address the issue but to say this was my fault for not using “real” 2FA), so I decided to make a new identity, with new email address, and only access the market via VPN, so to see what the experience of an outsider using AltMarket would be.  The result was not good at all.

I sold some TAO, withdrew.  Sold some more, set up a withdrawal, and then my account was promptly wiped of all trading, deposit, and withdrawal history.  I immediately opened a ticket and have been nothing but kind and patient.  Bryce Weiner was assigned to my ticket.

The ticket was opened 24 days ago, and communication has been miniscule.  I’ve had to send multiple messages to get a response, but have received no relevant information about my case.  According to support, they don’t know what happened, and they can’t fix it.  They asked me for a BTC address and offered to manually process my withdrawal 13 days ago.  I provided the address, never received anything, and was ignored until today when I started sending PMs to TAO hodlers laying this out for them.

And all over a measly .039 BTC

For those who don’t know me, I’ve been in TAO since summer of 2017 and been in UNO since early 2014.  I am an admin in the Unobtanium main Telegram channel and have a seat at the round table of Disciples.

I’m sure now that I have revealed myself to be the author of AltMarket Support Ticket #98, it will all be brushed under the rug “Oh he’s busy, we’ve got something new and exciting taking up all the attention.”  Well I’m here to say, that this kind of business practice is unacceptable.  No one from outside this project would be as kind and patient as I have been.  To not receive a withdrawal worth hundreds of dollars, have your account history completely wiped clean directly after making the withdrawal, and then have support shrug with an “i dunno” and then just ignore the issue, looks really really bad and any normie would be flipping their shit right now.  

I had really high hopes for AltMarket for years now and am beyond disappointed at the product which has been released.  All faith I had in any project being led by Bryce Weiner is gone.  I’ve made mention of this in all my other circles to spread the word that AltMarket and TAO are to be avoided entirely.

read the support ticket here: http://twitdoc.com/ALCB

I my view, Altmarket is a complete scam! I sent 280usd worth of ETH to their exchange and bought TAO coins with that amount! Now, only 36TAO show in my balance, which is only a couple of dollars worth...
Trying to resolve this over two month of corespondence through their support (Bryce Weiner) was an absolute nightmare...
I will try to expose them everywhere I can!

2. He copied a project without crediting its source.

He did not...

He cloned an open source project, maintaining the entire history of commits with credit to each and every individual and project involved going all the way back to Ethereum and Vitalik.

That is crediting its source, and you would know this if you had any idea what you are talking about. But you don't.

No, its not. Crediting the source would have been mentioning TomoChain anywhere in the documentation. He purposely removed all references to "TomoChain" and replaced them with "Tao." If he wanted to be honest from the get-go he would have just done a proper fork of TomoChain instead of just copy/pasting it into his own repository. Only after he got caught did he make a few changes.

3. He plagiarized the descriptive text of a project and called it his own.

This is false. There is no time that I am aware of where Bryce said that the descriptive text in the readme file was his own. It didn't happen.

But more importantly, the descriptive text in the readme file is in fact not the same text, it is entirely unique and specific to Tao.

And it specifically mentions and praises the Tomochain project as the source for the codebase.

1. Again, he simply replaced the word "TomoChain" with "Tao", and changed a few others words. He obviously is trying to pass it off as his own work. If he wasn't, he would have come up with his own project description for his own project.

2. It is NOT "entirely unique." It is 90% plagiarized! Take a closer look:





This (along with copy/pasting a project's source code) represents the most severe form of laziness that a crypto "dev" could possibly possess! Take a look around at the other projects being labeled as scams in this section of the forum. This type of plagiarism is grounds for a negative trust and scam accusation 90%+ of the time!

3. It didn't "praise Tomochain" at the time. He's since updated it after getting caught in his plagiarism. Here is an archived version of the file if anybody has any doubts. Even the new version still has plagiarized bits from the original.


If you look at ACGCrypto's post history, pretty much the only thing he's ever done on the forum is promote Tao, which has done nothing but fall in value over the course of the last 2-3 years. At least 90% of the updates he posted about Bryce's promises have never materialized. That's what Bryce Weiner does: over-promises and under-delivers.

It is apparent that Bryce (and Tao bagholders) are gearing up for one final pump before abandoning this project completely. This is why I am putting a warning flag on ACGCrypto for the same reason as there are flags on taoron and bryceweiner. He's been shamelessly encouraging people to buy what is essentially a long-time scammer's garbage, and people need to be aware of his duplicity.

I would be happy to leave this thread open, but the fact is I have been receiving death threats from people attempting to act on information being posted by sockpuppets in this thread. Their posts are always deleted by a moderator, but I can't leave the thread open because of this evil coward. It is truly a new low for Bryce (which is hard to achieve) and after these actions I don't understand why anybody would consider investing in Tao for one second.

I will continue with my plan to re-launch the thread as a self-moderated one in order to give ACGCrypto a fair chance to respond. In it I will also provide more evidence as to why Tao is a scam and Bryce Weiner is untrustworthy. Stay tuned.