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April 12, 2020, 07:50:25 AM
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They have the right to ask for salary and support, most of them are employers for years they should have a union and a compensation agreement if something like this happen, here in our country our government is the one running the casinos, so every employers are compensated and supported from all their needs in times like this.

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April 12, 2020, 07:55:43 AM
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They have the right to ask for salary and support, most of them are employers for years they should have a union and a compensation agreement if something like this happen, here in our country our government is the one running the casinos, so every employers are compensated and supported from all their needs in times like this.

I think many countries even have requested the business houses or businessman to not to cut the salary of their staff or employees for the lockdown period as they run their home based on the salty given and take care of the family . If they stop it. For many they won’t be able to survive as many has loaned or ill parents or medicine required etc especially in less developed countries . It’s really a bad situation for everyone at this time .

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April 12, 2020, 08:29:02 AM
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Yes but not everyone could do it since there are some people who only have enough salary to sustain their livings to pay their bills and to put food on their table.
But there are some who couldn't do it even save a small amount from their salary for emergency purpose or for times like this.
We couldn't blame them just think about what they have done in order to survive before the crisis occur there are some who are already having a hard time managing their income or only make enough to live their life.

Even if they will work hard every day if their work income is not sufficient to support all of their expenses for daily lives, it's hard to save money for an emergency. They can't think of saving for an emergency because their income is not enough for daily expenses. We can't really blame them that their income is not enough when the living expense in an economy is increasing, yet their income is not.

"We often think about gambling businesses having no income"

- I think this is wrong though, gambling business is a big income business and even though they've closest their casino, they have a lot of money at their disposal. And they could compensate their employees, whether it is a regular paying employee or not. They owe their success to those hard working guys and they should return this big favor to all the people around them. They can definitely cover all the lost they have incurred in this lock down very easily, once everything settles down.

During the closing time, they have no increase in revenue because they are not operating, but it does not mean they don't have money. Of course, they have, that's why they should also consider helping their employees.

They need to be helping now but we cannot force them.
i believe that US government is helping also right?so lets stay safe and let us not blame anyone about this because this is a Virus and no one knows what will happen next time.

We can't expect that the government can help each individual during the lockdown. Yes, America is a rich country, but to think that they also need to fund medical equipment and more, I don't think they can give help to everyone in need. A simple consideration of those big casino businesses is a big help.

I think they can pay casino workers in advance because casino workers doesn't have any income aside frok casino and they have no income totally since all of the casinos are offline and closed. I hope their government can help them because they need really need it. Maybe they can work from their home by servicing online gambling and they can also play. I hope they can get a way to survive the shutdown.

For me, the best solution they can do is not advance salary. If they will receive an advance payment, the following month, they won't receive anything. I think it's good to deduct their paid leaves like vacation and sick leave. Or, they can give them their other bonuses like half of their 13th-month pay in advance. Christmas bonuses in advance, but not their monthly salary.
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April 12, 2020, 09:09:39 AM
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Aren't the casinos online too?
 Well, I hope the good/safe games could just continue by operating online without the bad ones. The employees would then work part time and accept smaller pay. Everyone needs to remember that this is a crisis period...We all need should be understanding and try and help one another to survive.
 I would even suggest using the small pay to grow your own foods/rare animals (in safe places ofcourse) and probably diversify into the essential businesses.
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April 12, 2020, 09:18:22 AM
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The casino and gambling industry is unfortunately one of those industries that suffer during this state of emergency. If their employers don't want to to pay them, this is where the government comes in. They are tax paying citizens just like everyone else and deserve equal treatment. Although the casino industry makes millions of dollars they are also not conducting business currently. Small-time casinos would go bankrupt if they continued paying salaries to their employees without making any revenue for months.   

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April 12, 2020, 09:47:30 AM
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Financial management.

This is the problem for the workers. They don't have any savings that can be used in times like this. They are either complacent enough and didn't thought about the savings or emergency funds or its just they don't know how to save money.

TBH, most of the people here in my country doesn't have any savings account or even just emergency funds. This just shows that they are not ready if a crisis like this will happen. Right now people who doesn't have any savings or emergency funds are the ones who are experiencing some difficulties right now. A work at home too will be important right now because even though you aren't working in the company, you can still earn because there are many jobs online already.

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April 12, 2020, 10:52:22 AM
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This is something that only the employees can raise their concern or maybe they can get help from their local government,

In our country, the government itself requested the private businesses that include gambling houses to give the salary of their employees (salary, advance salary, bonus pay, allowance) to at least help them to survive during this shutdown. Fortunately, private businesses followed our local government's order/request to help employees that are affected.

This may be the solution for affected casino workers in Las Vegas or in any part of the world, whether they raise it to their employers or they get help from their local government.


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April 12, 2020, 11:08:36 AM
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Small-time casinos would go bankrupt if they continued paying salaries to their employees without making any revenue for months.   

That's true but they have insurance and savings because when they are still operational they are open 24/7, even if these are small-time casinos they are still making money, because gambling casinos are the surest way to make a profit, even here in our place a local betting game can make money for the operators of the game.
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April 12, 2020, 12:55:53 PM
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Financial management.

This is the problem for the workers. They don't have any savings that can be used in times like this. They are either complacent enough and didn't thought about the savings or emergency funds or its just they don't know how to save money.

TBH, most of the people here in my country doesn't have any savings account or even just emergency funds. This just shows that they are not ready if a crisis like this will happen. Right now people who doesn't have any savings or emergency funds are the ones who are experiencing some difficulties right now. A work at home too will be important right now because even though you aren't working in the company, you can still earn because there are many jobs online already.
Its a common thing but most people do fail to do so but there are circumstances that you cant really even save how hard you do try.
Not all does have sufficient salary for them to do so specially to those low amount earners and just only enough for their daily needs or living.
So we cant generalize that they havent consider on saving up money but i agree to your point that people should really be serious on saving
up for emergency purposes because no one can tell on what would happen in future years.

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April 12, 2020, 01:08:30 PM
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Paying their employees will be the difficult thing that the casino can do right now in the middle of this pandemic. The government cannot do much as their citizens who don't work will almost all of them. It's tough situations, and everyone should understand, maybe the government will help people who really need, but I don't know how they can solve it as I cannot imagine. The small casino itself will not survive in this pandemic because they cannot make money, and how come they can pay their employees.

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April 12, 2020, 01:20:34 PM
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Well.. there are several factors that should be considered here. First of all, many of those who own the casinos are billionaire themselves. I am talking about people such as Sheldon Adelson, Kunio Busujima, John Paulsen, James Packer, Lui Che Woo and even Donald Trump. These people can spend just 0.1% of their wealth and the casino workers can get their salaries for this period. Also, we should not overlook the fact that casinos pay some of the heaviest taxes on any of the commercial establishments. So the government has a duty to help them in bad times.
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April 12, 2020, 01:34:45 PM
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Casinos and other non-essential businesses were temporarily closed due to the virus spreading the word. We often think about gambling businesses having no income, and the decrease of the stock market. But we're forgetting about their employees who get no job and salary in the current situation.

Casino workers in Las Vegas showed their disappointment and anger towards their employers who failed to help and provide them what they need. Famous Las Vegas Strip of glitzy hotels and casino is closed due to lockdown, and thousands of their employees were left with no work and income. However, some casinos were able to support their workers and offered them a two-week salary, others gave four, while some gave nothing.

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"This is not going to sustain us — we need to feed our families, we need to put food on the table, we have bills mounting up,” said Debra Jeffries, a cocktail waitress for four decades at a major Strip casino.

Las Vegas has more than 40 million visitors every year and it is known for casinos. According to the American Gaming Association, if all casinos in the US will continue to be closed until mid-May, including nearby restaurants and bars, $43.5 billion in economic activity will lose.


The treasurer-secretary of the giant Las Vegas-based Culinary Union, Geoconda Arguello-Kline called giant operating casinos to do their responsibility in the community.

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“We feel the casino industry right now, they left their workers alone… it’s a very painful situation,” said Arguello-Kline.




Although it's awful that some successful casino owners and management forget to protect and help their employees who helped them to become successful, some casino owners were able to send help and give their employees the salary they need. Perhaps they don't care about their employees' financial struggle because they have a lot of money, and they can survive the whole lockdown with that money.

It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.

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That also depends on the extent to which a casino is a physical casino or online.
Online casinos should need more employees in these times, because many people are at home because of the virus and have more time to gamble.
Nominated casinos will have certain contracts so that staff can be (partly) paid.

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April 12, 2020, 02:45:54 PM
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That also depends on the extent to which a casino is a physical casino or online.
Online casinos should need more employees in these times, because many people are at home because of the virus and have more time to gamble.
Nominated casinos will have certain contracts so that staff can be (partly) paid.
It wouldnt really be that necessary come to think that staffs needed on an online casino wont really be that much if we do compare it
on physical ones thats why i dont see a reason for online casino owners on adding up more people to be included to the team,it would
just add up expenses on things which arent really that needed.

The thing here is that gambling association or industry specially to owners have some consideration on pooling up funds
for helping out to those who had been affected specially into their own workers.

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April 12, 2020, 02:55:14 PM
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Aren't the casinos online too?
 Well, I hope the good/safe games could just continue by operating online without the bad ones. The employees would then work part time and accept smaller pay. Everyone needs to remember that this is a crisis period...We all need should be understanding and try and help one another to survive.
 I would even suggest using the small pay to grow your own foods/rare animals (in safe places ofcourse) and probably diversify into the essential businesses.


I think for people who just love to spend times in casinos would not enjoy in this online games as it’s altogether different fun . Only few who just are addictive or cannot stay without gambling may be doing online or rest would be just waiting for casinos to get open and situation gets normal so that they can gamble by visiting casinos .

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April 12, 2020, 04:13:12 PM
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Casinos are some of the most lucrative businesses in the world and their profit is big enough to support their workers for the limited time they are closed because of the virus.

I think I am seeing the same situation where I live now with many businesses not paying their workers and taking profit of the situation.Very few businesses can’t really pay their workers.A lot of businesses can but they hide trying to take profit from this situation at least here where I live now in Albania.

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April 12, 2020, 06:09:12 PM
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Casinos are some of the most lucrative businesses in the world and their profit is big enough to support their workers for the limited time they are closed because of the virus.

I think I am seeing the same situation where I live now with many businesses not paying their workers and taking profit of the situation.Very few businesses can’t really pay their workers.A lot of businesses can but they hide trying to take profit from this situation at least here where I live now in Albania.
Okay lets take it for example that you're one of those casino owners or business out there.Can you really say to yourself that you would gonna support your workers in times like these?
For one time kind of help then its understandable but by means of support then you'll surely think twice.You arent making a business just to aide other people unless if you are that passionate on
helping others in need and doesnt mind on what would cost you but i doubt this kind of mindset or decisions if you are into their ground.

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April 12, 2020, 06:36:58 PM
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Everyone should get their salary during this period, thats why there are so many people shouting to their governments to print money for now. I know it is a long term bad idea but in the short term we are talking about bankruptcy of everyone and people starving to death.

Just because you print enough money to pay for salaries doesn't mean we are suddenly going to be like Zimbabwe, that takes a lot more time plus a lot more political instability as well. Do not print more than needed, tell all companies who do not work right now that you will pay for salaries, ban every company from firing people right now, and print enough money to pay for salaries and that is not, and not a dime more, with that you will have the economy back to very strong when this ends.

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During this time of crisis you will know who's your true friend and who you should trust next time. I've seen a lot of people who suffered already due to the lockdown which is not helpful but they can't wait any longer to wait for someone to help since the help is not coming that's why they are forced to go out and find their own food.

It's not just the casino workers who suffered here because those who rely their basic needs through the money that they get from their work is now gone due to lockdown. The employer should help their people/employees to get the help that they want since the lockdown might going to extend if the situation is getting worse.

I agree with this. I already saw some changing in the society which some people consider that what they need is important than the other people. For example, when they want to buy something, they want to get priority to get that as soon as possible, and those people forget that they are not the only one who wants those things. A human can change in the middle of the crisis like today, and that can make friend become enemy because of simple things.

That is happening not just in the casino because a few days ago, I made a call with my friend who lived in another city. I asked him about the conditions of his family, and he says that he still waits for the help from his office because his boss tells to all employee that the office can help them to fills their daily needs but the boss cannot do that for a long time. But the boss can pay all of the employees because the office is not making money. So my friend tries to search the other way so he can still fill his daily needs for just in case his boss stops the help.
I don't know whose call is this but I think people should start planting vegetables in their backyard just in case they don't have money to buy foods. People should start to change their perspective if the lockdown may be extended they have to think in advance to find a better way to solve the problems just in case so that they don't starve to death in the future. We are all surprised by these events and that proves us that the government either is not yet ready for this kind scenario. What more if there's much more worst than this? Can the government be ready enough to prevent more losses in the future?

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April 13, 2020, 12:38:35 PM
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Everyone should get their salary during this period, thats why there are so many people shouting to their governments to print money for now. I know it is a long term bad idea but in the short term we are talking about bankruptcy of everyone and people starving to death.
To whom they will get? maybe from the government because they are the ones who have big reserves while the business are still struggling with big loses at this situation.

Just because you print enough money to pay for salaries doesn't mean we are suddenly going to be like Zimbabwe, that takes a lot more time plus a lot more political instability as well. Do not print more than needed, tell all companies who do not work right now that you will pay for salaries, ban every company from firing people right now, and print enough money to pay for salaries and that is not, and not a dime more, with that you will have the economy back to very strong when this ends.
I think they are printing not for salaries because when its considered salary you have to work for it.
They are printing money to give an aid to the people as they are ordered to stay at home and avoid working so the virus will not spread faster.

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