Well Organized Scam Projects

[KeezAZA]

look for the reviews if there is no match information why would you spend your money if you know nothing about

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[el kaka22]

How can we safe ourselves from well organized scam projects? Some projects are so well crafted and in the end they scam people, to my own understand research doesn't help here at all, use case, whitepaper, team, every thing are so real and make sense, please give advice about this

That is the sad part, it is almost always too late to realize they are scams before they get to peoples money.

By the time you figure out that they are a scam and they are stealing peoples money, they are already very rich thanks to all the victims they have and we can't really reverse things because in bitcoin when you send money you sent it and there is no turning back from it. That is why it is vital importance to keep your eye open and let things go for a while before you join them, I know being early bird investor to many things made people rich which is why everyone tries to get in before it is too late but at the same time if you are too early, you would be one of the first ones to get your money stolen as well, that is why you have to risk not making too much profit and wait so you can be sure.

[ballerin and giroud]

How can we safe ourselves from well organized scam projects? Some projects are so well crafted and in the end they scam people, to my own understand research doesn't help here at all, use case, whitepaper, team, every thing are so real and make sense, please give advice about this

No, the scam project will never have a good team and didn't have a use case as you said. That it mean you didn't do a good analisys to the project that you choose. Scam project, it mean will no have a feature can be used to solve the problem in this world. I believe when there is a project which is have a solve problem on this world and have a good mindset from its team then the project will never fall to the scam project at the and. The team will force themselves to improve and fix some problems that in the project.

[Surrapatt]

look for the reviews if there is no match information why would you spend your money if you know nothing about

Yes, at least we must know about the project first, so that the capital we use on the project can be useful and benefit later, because only stupid people want to throw away money on unclear projects.

[Natalim]

look for the reviews if there is no match information why would you spend your money if you know nothing about

Yes, at least we must know about the project first, so that the capital we use on the project can be useful and benefit later, because only stupid people want to throw away money on unclear projects.

Why not wait until the market is bullish, that way we have a good chance that new projects will earn success.
For now, IMO, it's better to invest on popular coins that has big support as they won't die although seeing a drop of its value is possible.

[sifonE]

How can we safe ourselves from well organized scam projects? Some projects are so well crafted and in the end they scam people, to my own understand research doesn't help here at all, use case, whitepaper, team, every thing are so real and make sense, please give advice about this

there are few things which people don't understand in most of this projects concerning scammers and what they do to scam us, but believe me this steps will really helps us.
1. scammers are very smarts to the extent of copying every details of the project which they want to scam people, e.g.
they can say this is bounty phase two of the so so and so project that people should promotes, after every they will give you stakes as usual but they will try to create a site were you can make a deposits to buy the token and after every or when they have met their target they will run away with peoples funds.
2. they will launch are fake airdrop telling to send a ges fee as to receive your tokens
3. they will pm you as claiming to be bounty managers
4. they will changed their usernames and pictures claiming to be the CEO of the projects.
5. they will change their group name to be the exalt name of the project which they want to scam people from.
etc.

In summary,
if find any pm or such things, the only way to catch them is to call them on video calls and if they refuses to pick the calls then you should know that such persons or personnel is a scammer. knowing too well that the real owner will love to pick without hiding anything.

secondly, though people has also mentioned but it all need a thorough investigations about the project and also watch the manager that is behind the project, any reputable manager can't do any evil in the forum in other to scam people that is why participating in any project you all have to note the manager too.

[lobo13hf]

Nowadays it is very risky to invest in any cryptocurrency project, so now I only make investments in cryptocurrency projects that conduct IEO on top exchanges like binance, huobi, bittrex and constantly get profit and do not lose my investments.

that caused by it's not easy to participate in the IEO that runs on the top exchange sites and people are also looking for an alternative way to get the best project too. The lottery system has already made some people were not able to participated on IEO. As long as you were investing in the right project and everything will be fine

[XCANA]

How can we safe ourselves from well organized scam projects? Some projects are so well crafted and in the end they scam people, to my own understand research doesn't help here at all, use case, whitepaper, team, every thing are so real and make sense, please give advice about this

Your research wasn't enough and doubt if you really get deep into this project and still was unable to detect that their approach to scamming. Projects with products or case use should not be seen as a project that has prospect, there are many projects with good team and product backed tokens but still scam investors. Stop investing into new projects no matter who is the team member of the projects or their products. Always look ahead and invest wisely on Bitcoin and some good existing altcoins and not ransom new projects.

[Clark05]

If you do not believe of making research that is your choice but Im really sure that of doing that we can see somw information to know if the project are scam. Right now most of the project are really good to hide the truth so that many people are losing more money. I believe researching is the best way a investors to do to avoid scam project in any fields researching is needed  not only fro the crypto world but for the real world too.

[umbara ardian]

If you are unable to make judgments about new projects. Or you don't trust them, you don't need to try investing in them, just go to coinmarketcap and choose the top altcoins there. These are the best altcoins and platforms, so you don't need to fear it collapses or become a scam

[disconnectme]

How can we safe ourselves from well organized scam projects? Some projects are so well crafted and in the end they scam people, to my own understand research doesn't help here at all, use case, whitepaper, team, every thing are so real and make sense, please give advice about this

Yes this is true and we are yet to found out that most of these projects in the space would end up this way. Most of these project do not start as a scam but because of the change in the landscape and loss on money to continue with their project they dump their tokens and flee the space. We need some of them to fail to help the stronger ones survive

[Metall303]

If you are unable to make judgments about new projects. Or you don't trust them, you don't need to try investing in them, just go to coinmarketcap and choose the top altcoins there. These are the best altcoins and platforms, so you don't need to fear it collapses or become a scam

Any project on a coinmarketcap can die and then your money can turn into 0. Do not be completely sure about cryptocurrency projects. always remember that this is a high-risk market and invest only money which you are ready to lose

[bitgolden]

There are just too many people who feel like angel investors when they are investing into a new project, what they are not realizing is the fact that they are not investing into startups that could make millions of dollars if not billions in profits. They are investing into small coins that will be given to them and if that coin goes up then they will make money and if that coin doesn't go up that means they will lose money.

It is not a business, it is not a company, it is basically just money itself, you give euro and get dollars, you give dollars and get pesos, well here you give bitcoin and get that token and that's it. If we can manage to explain this to people as well as we can, maybe they will realize their mistakes one day, I don't know if they will understand but we have to try.

[gensol]

Well organised scams cannot be detected except there's an unavoidable loophole. These guys take years or months to plot the scheme during which they eliminate every loophole that can stand in their way.

[Slingshot]

The first way of knowing these sets if people is through hyping, they do pay hyypers to hype Thier group, watch closely for such groups and run away from such. Secondly project team always claims to have negotiated with some top exchanges so as to draw the attention of investors and thirdly they have fake team members with fake promises. Once you see groups people are hyping so much please becareful before investing as some are paid to hype so as to entice investors so they can invest.

[jaywizzy]

Smile! They are so many well organised scam project which you can't ever believe they can scam you, but this can be avoid by making more research and make more enquiries from people that know more than us in the world of crypto.

[Impacto]

The Golden rule of investment is to always risk what you can afford to lose. Having done app the necessary homework on any project, sometimes it is difficult to pick out the scammy ones, in this case little risk will save you from losing too much.

[totoy4741]

Proper research needs to be done but most of us investors most especially bounty hunter don't do research that much or do not do at all. You can not simply presume a certain project by having a good whitepaper or having at least a respectable team members. Remember scammer will anything for the money, even hire celebrities, or credible advisory to advertise their project. Do it at your own risk, you'll never know what you would be the outcome until you try.

[taufik123]

-snip- If i were to check the legitimacy of the project, i will research deeply the personal record of the bounty manager.

Regarding the personal record of the gift it is necessary to consider and explore in depth. Scam projects usually only use the Gift Manager managed by themselves by creating a new Bitcointalk account and using a Copper member. Projects like this that must be watched out for. They will not hire managers like Hhampuz, Coolcryptovator and other professional managers.

And check if the members in the telegram are all active especially the team behind it.

Telegram members cannot guarantee, because the telegram members they have are usually members who actually follow the campaign but use many telegram accounts, even their team members are very active at the beginning of the campaign, and just before the campaign will end, the Development Team will not be active and the telegram group was abandoned.

For now it is indeed very difficult to find a real project, many scam projects. the fraud mode they use also varies, many of which have to be identified in order to avoid scam projects.

[cassavachips]

You have to find out more, if their intention is a scam then it will be easily detected, whatever method they use to hide lies will definitely be detected. But if all is really good, it would be very unfortunate if they only aim to do a scam