Cheating or Not?

[seleme]

If there is no such requirement on predetermined rules, adding this rule is clearly cheating. Sometimes, the bounty managers can insure themselves with writing the guaranteed lines(like the decision of the manager is final) on the first lines of bounty thread.

[samcrypto]

Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.

If they are talking about another exchange then that is not cheating but if they are talking on their own exchange I think something wrong with that project. If they are planning on Exchange that is asking for a KYC, it can still be a legal project because they are not connected to that exchange and that is the rules of the exchange.

[BlackFor3st]

Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.

You should check all their rules whether they also include that they can change the rules anytime or something like that but if there is no rule that are stating something like that then it is very obvious that they are mocking the bounty hunters. It will be good if they will be reported, the same with the bounty manager or you create a thread with regards to their behavior so everyone will be aware and avoid them.

I am not really familiar with the rules of altcointalk but if they can somehow banned the project owner account and red tag the bounty manager then it can really help. KYC is an obvious violation of rules if it was not stated in their bounty campaign rules and I really hate KYC as anyone can easily use your credentials without your permission so make sure that you will use wisely your KYC credentials.

[akirasendo17]

i think they have the right to change the rules if they think some people are cheating, you see there are some people who uses multiple account for a bounty just to have more than what is really assign for a person, you can't blame them, because they are the one who makes the rules and if they think there are some people who took advantage of something they have the power to change the rules, on the other hand if its not a legit projects they are just harvesting information, my suggestion is to check the project properly and if you think its not doing well, just step back.

[TimeTeller]

Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.

If they are talking about another exchange then that is not cheating but if they are talking on their own exchange I think something wrong with that project. If they are planning on Exchange that is asking for a KYC, it can still be a legal project because they are not connected to that exchange and that is the rules of the exchange.

Yes, that would be valid if the coin will be listed in an exchange that requires KYC.
It is not on their hands about this requirement, because it is already outside their project.
But if it is their own exchange, then, they should have informed their participants about such requirement.
Really hard to trust bounty projects nowadays.

[rathaha10]

Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.

I heard there are certain rules over there at altcoinstalk forum guiding the processes of running bounty campaigns, unfortunately there aren't such of things here in bitcointalk. This community have experience thousands of project developers turning tail when it's time to make payment or when campaign is ended just to refuse hunters payment, i can't help but wonder when the bitcointalk forum management will introduce some laid rules guiding the running  of bounty campaigns here because projects are really cheating hunters with the desclaimer of "the team and the manager reserve the right to make any rules during or after the end of the campaign". It is common here for devolopers and managers to extend payment schedule, introduce kyc, as well as organise a split payments structure that will last for months just till the token get dump on the exchanges. The activities of running bounty campaign here need regulations.

[ahyadinnn]

If there is no such requirement on predetermined rules, adding this rule is clearly cheating. Sometimes, the bounty managers can insure themselves with writing the guaranteed lines(like the decision of the manager is final) on the first lines of bounty thread.

true sometimes there are also managers who provide additional rules that say the rules can change at any time, but if there are no rules like that should be asked because from the beginning there was no mention of the rules for KYC, I have participated in several bounties like that so I was forced to send my document to take my payment

[qory]

When getting project need your KYC document for bounty campaign or exchange website, check reputation first and looking how trusted their site before you give your document, I don't care without get payment with some bounty campaign project need our ID but little reward giving and I miss it.

[maxreish]

If it was stated in the beginning about that no KYC and then suddenly changed, you can make it appeal to the team. Which i think is useless, I mean. Their project means they can change the rules.
 May I know what's the name of that project you are referring to? Therr are a lot of projects like that, changing rules. It's either two way: for the betterment of the project or to scam their participants or members.

[Thecryptocurrency09]

Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.

Sometimes the company or the team are the one responsible the bounty managers doesn't really have a thing to do to what the team wanted. At most cases they could easily change the rules since their own the platform. Base on your situation you said that they are promoters so for sure they are just bounty hunters, for sure exchanges have different rules and today I know a lot of exchange in the past that doesn't required KYC but today they required it already. If the team are the one who own the exchange for sure it was cheating at me since I already joined rules should be followed but if you look it on the other way you can really complained about it.

[Kotone]

When getting project need your KYC document for bounty campaign or exchange website, check reputation first and looking how trusted their site before you give your document, I don't care without get payment with some bounty campaign project need our ID but little reward giving and I miss it.

Thats the bad part there. We do KYC for the sake of small reward but in return we can suffer from a very bad situation that our info could leak and be used to illegal activity. Yes bounty campaign without kyc is good and should only be implemented by investors as KYC describe its purpose clearly. I assume the only thing we should do is the KYC on the exchange it is listed and that one fact cannot be denied that we must do unless there is a way for us to exchange those rewards without KYC on that exchanges requiring it.

[lienfaye]

This is one of the usual sentiments of hunters. In the end of the campaign they will suddenly requiring hunters to pass a kyc, need to abide or else you wont get the rewards. Just like what others said its on the rule, they can change it anytime. If you still join despite that then it means you understand everything even they happen to replace some of the set rules from the beginning.

[preikaler]

It depends on the rules that were made from the beginning. Usually projects write "Bounty manager or admin has the right to do anything"
So we cannot blame them if they change the rules in the middle or the end.

It looks like 99% of bounties will write rules like that, I think the writing "Bounty manager or admin has the right to do anything" only changes the rules of each campaign not a KYC problem, I also feel upset and worried if a project asks KYC at the end campaign

[miklesm]

Such occasions are really bad for the project reputation, but actually they are not breaking any rules as it usually stated in Bounty threads that the rules might be changed at any time.

[Ryushin]

Sometimes bounties have rules that can be adjusted by the BM or team, if you come across such rules I suggest you part away quickly, some willingly use this to cheat bounty hunters

[Genemind]

This is not a new scenario in bounties. I had been into a lot of bounties which had a lot of surprise changes by the end of the campaign for you to get paid. However, if it is written in the rule that adjustments can be made within or after the bounty, this is not considered cheating.

[shoreno]

 they should not tolerate behavior like this because it was like simillar to scam . it other words they dont like to pay thier workers because if they are honest they should put a clear rules and they should add a note if the rules can change in the future or not  .   never experienced to join a campaign like this but i the ones that i came across already have a staple rules on the first day that they started the only problem is that most of them are being cancelled or worst dont pay at all   . this is the only thing that i dont want to happen but i dont really care about those kyc's

[lepbagong]

This is not a new scenario in bounties. I had been into a lot of bounties which had a lot of surprise changes by the end of the campaign for you to get paid. However, if it is written in the rule that adjustments can be made within or after the bounty, this is not considered cheating.

in fact the intention is made in such a way that it does not appear to violate the rules, as you say "the rules can be adjusted after the prize". or any form of word that implies that if there are changes they cannot be blamed. Such incidents indeed often occur when it is in the middle of a project or after completion. because they have the right to change the rules and have been made so that they cannot be blamed. there are many ways to get them to benefit and participants cannot do anything.

[OasisDre]

I personally dislike project team or bounty managers that change bounty rules after bounty ends, there have been few cases about project team trying to cheat bounty hunters, they introduced and force participants to go through KYC process if they need their reward, this is so wrong and im 100% against it

[dady12]

It depends on the rules that were made from the beginning. Usually projects write "Bounty manager or admin has the right to do anything"
So we cannot blame them if they change the rules in the middle or the end.

You right. But sometimes some bounty hunter dont even care about this rules. If we join campaign we should all the rules so we can anticipate for bad possibility.

For sure they can.
Since we have no official regulation from govs - their actions have no legal status, so they can't be "caught" for such cheating.
We have to wait and fight for legal status of crypto if we need some kind of protection