Cheating or Not?

[Bezobraznike]

I personally dislike project team or bounty managers that change bounty rules after bounty ends, there have been few cases about project team trying to cheat bounty hunters, they introduced and force participants to go through KYC process if they need their reward, this is so wrong and im 100% against it

   It's happened to me few times, but they justify changing their initial rules, they wrote about reasons,
new regulations, how they need to oblige to some new rules. It's maybe wrong, but it's not cheating
I think.
   We have a last call, if we don't like changes and it looks fishy we should abandon the project and warn
others about that project. With some proves it would go easier I assume, but even logical explanation can
work here, we are not on court!

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[lousie9]

each project has different rules, but related to the KYC problem it all depends on the decision of the prize manager or their project team, because they have authority or rights in the project rules. You as the project promoter can only follow that rule, otherwise you also cannot claim the project token.

[rdewilde]

Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.

No it is not cheating and to the best of my knowledge both the team and the bounty manager have the right to add, remove or change the rules the way it pleases them, at least it is rightly stated on the bounty thread. With this change in rules happening often and on, I think it is better the person allows himself to be flexible and be open to any change in rules whenever it comes so that he won't end up working and lose all at the end because he couldn't meet up with the new rules.

[shadowdio]

Well it's kinda cheating, Changing the rules at the end of the campaign. You expect the reward that will arrive in your wallet but no, it needs KYC in order to receive it. It is up to you if you want to submit KYC to get your reward. If that happens to me, maybe I will pass the KYC if the reward is high but if low maybe not.

[ije07]

honestly it's cheating, because at the beginning of the project they launched it was written like a prize hunter is not needed for KYC. but the change in project rules can only be done by the project manager and the bounty hunter has no other choice but to have to do the KYC to get the token.

[trauchot]

Unfortunately, this has always been and always will be, a lot of projects that conduct bounty companies, first the bounty companies indicate that the kyc is not needed, and after the bounty ends, they begin to change the rules and say that the kyc is needed, this is done specifically to limit the number of bounty hunters who will receive tokens.

[mu_enrico]

Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.

In my opinion, generally, I consider this a violation of the agreement and can be flagged. However, usually, they stated on the OP that they could change the rule if they want. So, if you decided to participate knowing that they can change the rule, then this problem becomes debatable. Well, usually, this kind of problem in real life would be settled in court, but, for this forum, a neutral tag is justifiable.

Red tag or flag, maybe? I'm not sure. You can ask in reputation board about this issue.

[Byakuga]

It's true that rules can be changed anytime on bounties but some team and bounty managers use this at their own advantage when it's time to pay project promoters, this is why I look at bounty manager reputation before joining a bounty project

[leea-1334]

I believe this is not new and a lot have been discuss here on the forum. Now in as much as the manager have stated at the end of the campaign that the term and condition of the campaign can be changed, I don't see it as scam because sometime dev team might decide to change what have said earlier to suit the project and sometime this is used to reduce the number of token to be allocated to hunters

I think it is not cheating, but it is dishonorable, especially when it is informed at the end of the campaign when users obviously join for terms and conditions declared at the beginning. They do deserve to have negative trust for this as it is dishonest.

But I will defend managers in saying that most times it is the project and not them who changed their minds.

[Marble777]

It depends on the rules that were made from the beginning. Usually projects write "Bounty manager or admin has the right to do anything"
So we cannot blame them if they change the rules in the middle or the end.

Yes, it is true. that the gift manager or project admin has the right to change the rules in the middle or at the end of the project. so as a project promoter you can not do much other than follow the project rules. but for me personally this is not a problem either, at least with the enactment of KYC for participants can reduce multi accounts at the end of the project.

[AicecreaME]

Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.

Maybe, but to be honest it is not. They the rights to alter their own rules, it is not cheating but it is surely frustrating and annoying at the same time, because it's like they are telling that you're going to have a hard time claiming your bounty to them, it is up to you whether to comply on their rules or not. However, most of the time you're going to have second thoughts about it, since it is KYC which means exposing your real identity to someone you don't even know for a certain amount of money.

[itsv]

well if the company use's some decentralized identity verification system than i think there is no harm passing KYC once but if they are asking you to upload your data to website or google form than i would avoid it. 

[Saisher]

It depends on the rules that were made from the beginning. Usually projects write "Bounty manager or admin has the right to do anything"
So we cannot blame them if they change the rules in the middle or the end.

I have experienced that so many times from no KYC to KYC now, projects that does this are deceitful and should be reported, but since they have the option to change the rules and they state it in their bounty thread, they can be considered safe from scam accusation, and this is the risk that bounty hunters have to face.

[Pffrt]

They also always state that they can change the rules anytime. So, I think they have the right to do so. You are free to participate by acknowledging all the bounty rules posted in the thread. You should check them before joining any bounty.

[Tomcolor]

Yes some projects need kyc for get double entry participate so it's doesn't matter if team announced about kyc before start of the bounty. Then everyone can passing kyc easily without tension free.

[rodskee]

Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.

this proves that you are still newbie in this Business mate.
Scammers are misleading ,they will do anything to make people believe about how they are can be trusted but in the end the true objective will come.
just Visit the Scam accusation Section and Reputation here .
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=129.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

Just visit that sections and you will find many accusations like this.

[Nennyel]

It's cheating on the parts of project owners to the hunters but most times these rules are made to either reduce multiple accounts or as a measure to comply to some sort of regulations the project might be undergoing. While joining a bounty expect kyc before joining even if they say no kyc.

[HatakeKakashi]

If they have rights to change the rules that is fair and not cheating, because they have campaign who are doing that they set a new rules but once they don't have that is not fair because not all participants wants KYC because what if they join campaign and they spend few months because they know that there is no required kyc but after the campaign they need to pass their information is unfair.

[inanilujimi]

the most important thing is we must always keep abreast of the development of the bounty we are working on, if the rules change at the end of the campaign the choice is still in your hands, if you think the results are worth it, why not.

[qazgroup]

Well, this act is cheating or not is debatable but i am sure it is unethical and falls in the category of exploiting the workers so one can say it is agai st the global labor laws and it is like depriving the worker of his due reward after the work has been done.