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May 15, 2020, 04:06:20 AM
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Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.



Cheating it is in my opinion because already it was stated that there won't be any kyc but at the end of the campaign they now request kyc just to spite hunters, if you look at it, many hunters only join campaigns that don't require kyc (maybe because they don't have the required kyc document) and they can receive their reward without any problem,
But when you decide to introduce kyc after saying there is no kyc is clear cheating hunters of their reward which is bad.
I disagree with you. As I understand, the project said that they don't require KYC for bounty hunters to receive their reward. However, for some reason, their chosen exchange requires every user to undergo KYC. It is not part of their rules that they don't need to do KYC under the exchange, therefore, it is not cheating but a misunderstanding in bounty hunter's part.
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May 15, 2020, 07:45:18 AM
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It depends on the rules that were made from the beginning. Usually projects write "Bounty manager or admin has the right to do anything"
So we cannot blame them if they change the rules in the middle or the end.

Yeah and they are using this to cheat people because all bounty hunters that participated will undergo KYC even though they participated because they are not going to ask for KYC, now they are asking so they can get free service from this bounty hunters, this project should be posted in the scam section.

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May 15, 2020, 08:00:07 AM
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It depends on the rules that were made from the beginning. Usually projects write "Bounty manager or admin has the right to do anything"
So we cannot blame them if they change the rules in the middle or the end.

Yeah and they are using this to cheat people because all bounty hunters that participated will undergo KYC even though they participated because they are not going to ask for KYC, now they are asking so they can get free service from this bounty hunters, this project should be posted in the scam section.

Rule is rule, it's a not a most you join any bounty you come across. And I think reason they always do this is because of bounty cheaters. It's almost impossible to get away with cheating if such method is used.
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May 15, 2020, 12:58:36 PM
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If they have previous rules then it's not cheating because it's there own behind happen. Since a project stuff can do anything even we can't nothing for it. Besides kyc pass many hunter doing cheating so kyc something good and something bad in my mind. Otherwise, if you didn't like kyc bounty program then avoid it because team will never consider for you because it's rules mandatory for everyone.
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May 15, 2020, 01:57:26 PM
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I think we should really read the rules of a bounty campaign before joining it. Because some bounty projects says that there is no kyc behind their project, however the manager or team stuff has the right to change the rules. So, there's a chance that the rules might chance in the future.
You are absolutely right, KYC might not be appropriate for Bounty Hunter but for KYC investors it is required, and preparing KYC if changes occur are also appropriate, I have participated in bounties and I am not KYC because I don't know, and I failed to get my reward, sadly.

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May 15, 2020, 02:08:17 PM
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I think we should really read the rules of a bounty campaign before joining it. Because some bounty projects says that there is no kyc behind their project, however the manager or team stuff has the right to change the rules. So, there's a chance that the rules might chance in the future.
yes when at the end of the campaign they asked participants to do the KYC then there was nothing we could do. We as bounty hunters can only follow the rules they make in order to get paid

so the choice is only in us
doing that means getting paid
not doing KYC means working in vain

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May 15, 2020, 02:19:12 PM
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Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.


if you read on the thread that they reserve the right to change the rules if need be.. then it's not cheating unfortunately this is what every bounty will have to experience in the crypto space.. they can choose not to pay up at all.. and theres nothing we can do about it
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May 15, 2020, 02:27:35 PM
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They can change the rules, as long as it's reasonable and nothing is excessive. But it is imperative that such projects need to be distributed, if they are delayed or not distributed, then those projects are definitely scam and we need to try to tag them.

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May 15, 2020, 02:31:18 PM
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Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.


if you read on the thread that they reserve the right to change the rules if need be.. then it's not cheating unfortunately this is what every bounty will have to experience in the crypto space.. they can choose not to pay up at all.. and theres nothing we can do about it

i know and almost every business or company already posted that notice  .  it sucks because this is verry simillar to being you cheated because they can do whatever they wanted to  .   the only way to avoid this is to not join a campaign that have this rule just to be sure that your efforts will not be wasted   .  dunno what happen to op , he didnt clearly state if the campaign that he joined have this rule but i assume they have it and maybe op didnt saw it   . now he is in trouble   . his option is doing kyc or else leave
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May 17, 2020, 11:40:31 AM
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if cheating seems like it might not be if KYC is for the good of a project to avoid people or people who usually take advantage negatively or fraudulently, it can be very helpful for other participants who are genuine or not cheating
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May 17, 2020, 11:52:32 AM
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if cheating seems like it might not be if KYC is for the good of a project to avoid people or people who usually take advantage negatively or fraudulently, it can be very helpful for other participants who are genuine or not cheating

I agree this is not cheating. A team can decide to add new rules if they think that with new rules they can have a better project and more devoured followers and users. It's on them to add new regulations if they think it's good for the project, it's on us to welcome new rules or to quit because we don't like them. But anyway if project is good it will continue to exist and it will attract people who can respect new rules that can contribute to success of the project.



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May 17, 2020, 12:28:44 PM
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In this case, they're a cheating liar when adding new rules to the promotion. Consequences for them are that they lost the trust of their followers. Even if people pass the KYC and get the reward, they would dump the coin at the first chance they have since they didn't trust the projects anymore.
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May 17, 2020, 12:30:57 PM
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They can change the rules, as long as it's reasonable and nothing is excessive. But it is imperative that such projects need to be distributed, if they are delayed or not distributed, then those projects are definitely scam and we need to try to tag them.

If its in favor of the bounty hunters, they will not complain but if it will lead to the reduction of reward, of course they will complain.
The original contract will always stand as that is the agreement from the start and bounty hunters agrees with it and its they are expecting it when the job is done.

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May 17, 2020, 12:47:02 PM
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They can change the rules, as long as it's reasonable and nothing is excessive. But it is imperative that such projects need to be distributed, if they are delayed or not distributed, then those projects are definitely scam and we need to try to tag them.
Agree, the rules may change at any time to fit the situation. As long as those campaigns make payments, they are certainly not fraud
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May 17, 2020, 01:32:34 PM
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Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.


usually every bounty program has important rules, maybe you usually read it,
KYC is not important but if the project wants you for KYC then KYC should we do
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May 17, 2020, 03:14:07 PM
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Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.



Yes, this is one kind of cheating i think. There are many projects like this. In the beginning of projects they said one thing and end of the project they are opposite. Actually cheating is now everywhere but we have nothing to do if is say frankly. When you have invested your whole time behind the project and lastly you can not give up them. I think it should clear instructions from beginning and continue at the end.

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May 17, 2020, 03:17:48 PM
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They can change the rules, as long as it's reasonable and nothing is excessive. But it is imperative that such projects need to be distributed, if they are delayed or not distributed, then those projects are definitely scam and we need to try to tag them.
Agree, the rules may change at any time to fit the situation. As long as those campaigns make payments, they are certainly not fraud

If any rules are changing, then just provide information some days or time before is helpful for people also to understand and not the same rather than coming on the last hour. Generally, if any big decision are taken then they are thoughtful and pre decided also so better to let everyone know in advance and it will be fine with people.


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May 17, 2020, 03:46:41 PM
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Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.

it becomes a rule for "Bounty" project managers to make changes, and I have personally found a project like that where I have to change my wallet and KYC, so don't be discouraged by projects like that, just do it and enjoy   Wink

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October 06, 2020, 07:53:23 AM
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I think we should really read the rules of a bounty campaign before joining it. Because some bounty projects says that there is no kyc behind their project, however the manager or team stuff has the right to change the rules. So, there's a chance that the rules might change in the future. We could say it is cheating if the bounty team changes it's rules in the long run without saying they would change it, because some bounties saying that there's no kyc needed but after the project it changed to kyc rules, so it's hard to adjust on the part of bounty hunters.

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October 06, 2020, 08:41:25 AM
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In my opinion this is not cheating, because there are so many projects like that, at the beginning of the regulation they didn't have to use KYC to get it, but after that they have the right to change the rules they had before, maybe you didn't read all the rules they gave in the project thread. That's why before you join a project, you have to read all the rules they set there so as not to misunderstand the project rules.

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