Merit isn't everything in bitcointalk!

[thisnewcoin]

You are absolutely right! Merit is not everything, if you are good at posting, do it continuously, keep helping the community, soon or later you will get noticed and high ranked people will give you merits. There are many good posters who yet to gain enough merit of what they deserve but some people who don’t have much knowledge about good posting, they are gaining merits through other ways! So, there are some ways to earn merits! So, do whatever you know well.

[BITCOIN4X]

Merit is not everything on the bitcoin forum, this assumption is certainly true.

The main priority of the merit system is to encourage each user to post quality things as delivered by them. There are many problems related to the quality of user posts before the merit system is implemented in the forum, and the existence of this system has given the forum a positive impact and it must be like increasing the quality of user posts.

I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
 - Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.

So, the application of this merit system in the forum by itself has forced people who care about ranking to improve the quality of posts so that ranking can be achieved. Quality posters if they feel that they are lacking in merit will also get special facilities to report their posting links to feasible sources as LoyceV and several other merit sources do. So theres no need to be discouraged if our quality posts dont get enough attention from appropriate sources because we still have other facilities to get them.

[Asuspawer09]

Sorry for another topic about merit guys! But I wanted to tell this to everyone, especially to newbies.

A high number of merits earned by an individual is a sign that he is a quality poster but it doesn't mean every less earned member is not knowledgeable enough. Earning merits depends on a lot of factors like which section we would like to post/discuss and which local board we belong to. So some members can earn more if their board and section have high active members and merit sources.

Actually what I wanted to tell is, if you are not making enough merits even after you are giving your maximum effort doesn't mean that you are not deserved to be on bitcointalk at someday you will get caught by the merits sources until that keep posting and learn new things which you are being yourself.

For sure the main goal of the forums is to exchange information with the other users to learn, sharing new ideas about cryptocurrency or bitcoin, etc. But merit is already part here in the forum which is always connected to our goal. Maybe we want to earn a profit as our goal in this forum which is not a bad thing but could be a bad motivation. Posting constructive posts share information with other users here in the forum connected to gaining merits to rank up in the forum. What newbie need to understand is merits or ranking up is just a bonus don't make it a motivation because it might lead to spamming because you just want to rank up or complete a number of posts.

[Onuohakk]

We all believed that having merits signifies you are a good poster. Lest we all forget the knowledge we get when someone contributes or give his or her own opinion without been merit upon. It don't necessarily mean those that doesn't have merits, doesn't contribute meaningfully in this forum that's why the find it hard to rank up.

[KiloFoxtrot]

This is so true, merit system is far from perfect, for example I see many posts that I think deserve at least some merit, but I'm always out of smerit, and I know that I have no chance of becoming a merit source, because that position is for very established forum users only.

Hope there could be a workaround for this, like if one established member has simply lost smerit, maybe it could be forwarded to a more established forum user so that other newbie forum users could be recognized somehow (if deserving).

You didn't understand what the poster wrote, many times users that aren't merit sources may want to give merits to a post, but have none to give, so they skip the post as they can't merit it;  but Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source can help. What hatshepsut93 meant was he also finds himself in that position and is not a merit source.

And yes, this Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source is what I was actually referring to, that I wasn't aware of beforehand.

Merit sources are established members, who get refilled with smerits every month to give them to good posts on the forum, though I consider hatshepsut93 a very good user and should apply to be a merit source if he feels the need to.

I wasn't aware that smerits get refilled every month, although I am aware that merit sources are indeed established members here already.

Finally, smerits don't get lost, you send them to good posts and a newbie cannot be recognized or established, it's takes a lot of time to get that status, and efforts to.

Re: smerits don't get lost, this one I admit that I totally misunderstood based on my prior comment earlier.  I appreciate the explanation and now I fully understand how it all works.

[Findingnemo]

Merit as a condition for joining a signature campaign in my opinion is to make it easier for managers when choosing suitable participants to fill the available slots and I think only good posters have a large amount of merit and it is not a mistake if managers and campaigns employ them to promote the site or project.

Merit criteria can filet lot of shit posters but a member who earned 50 merits and 100 merits in the same time interval may have same knowledge or even the one who earned 50 is more knowledgeable than the one who earned 100 so campaign managers should accept based on the post history not alone with the numbers of merits earned.

[Coyster]

I wasn't aware that smerits get refilled every month, although I am aware that merit sources are indeed established members here already.

smerits get refilled monthly, but that's only for the merit sources . If you're not a merit source, you don't get any monthly automatic smerit refill from the forum. The only way a user can get smerits as a "non-merit source" is to earn merits, the more merits you earn, the more sendable merits(smerits)you have to send, but merit sources on the other hand have both their source smerits and earned smerits to spend.

[KiloFoxtrot]

I wasn't aware that smerits get refilled every month, although I am aware that merit sources are indeed established members here already.

smerits get refilled monthly, but that's only for the merit sources . If you're not a merit source, you don't get any monthly automatic smerit refill from the forum. The only way a user can get smerits as a "non-merit source" is to earn merits, the more merits you earn, the more sendable merits(smerits)you have to send, but merit sources on the other hand have both their source smerits and earned smerits to spend.

On that note regarding smerits, the great Spiderman quote from Uncle Ben often comes to mind: "With great power, comes great responsibility."  

[Findingnemo]

I wasn't aware that smerits get refilled every month, although I am aware that merit sources are indeed established members here already.

smerits get refilled monthly, but that's only for the merit sources . If you're not a merit source, you don't get any monthly automatic smerit refill from the forum. The only way a user can get smerits as a "non-merit source" is to earn merits, the more merits you earn, the more sendable merits(smerits)you have to send, but merit sources on the other hand have both their source smerits and earned smerits to spend.

On that note regarding smerits, the great Spiderman quote from Uncle Ben often comes to mind: "With great power, comes great responsibility."  

BItcointalk is not paying anything for merit sources, they are doing this voluntarily to make this forum is better placed so we can't expect everyone who is placed as merits sources are always active and always looking for posts which are deserved to be merits that is why the number of merits earned may not be always a sign of knowledge.

[JohnBitCo]

Sorry for another topic about merit guys! But I wanted to tell this to everyone, especially to newbies.

A high number of merits earned by an individual is a sign that he is a quality poster but it doesn't mean every less earned member is not knowledgeable enough. Earning merits depends on a lot of factors like which section we would like to post/discuss and which local board we belong to. So some members can earn more if their board and section have high active members and merit sources.

Actually what I wanted to tell is, if you are not making enough merits even after you are giving your maximum effort doesn't mean that you are not deserved to be on bitcointalk at someday you will get caught by the merits sources until that keep posting and learn new things which you are being yourself.

If anyone is a regular poster on this forum, he/she will definitely like to get merits. No one can deny the importance of merits not only because it gives you better rank, but it also proves that you are a quality writer.  I think this assumption is also wrong that anyone writes quality posts and still does not get merits. Those who does not get merits, don't deserve to get it.

[noormcs5]

Sorry for another topic about merit guys! But I wanted to tell this to everyone, especially to newbies.

A high number of merits earned by an individual is a sign that he is a quality poster but it doesn't mean every less earned member is not knowledgeable enough. Earning merits depends on a lot of factors like which section we would like to post/discuss and which local board we belong to. So some members can earn more if their board and section have high active members and merit sources.

Actually what I wanted to tell is, if you are not making enough merits even after you are giving your maximum effort doesn't mean that you are not deserved to be on bitcointalk at someday you will get caught by the merits sources until that keep posting and learn new things which you are being yourself.

When you say that "Merit isn't everything in bitcointalk!", its like saying that "Money isn't everything in this world!"
You need money to have a better life style in this world and similarly you need merits to have a better feeling on this forum too. But for both merits and money, you have to work for it.

[Findingnemo]

If anyone is a regular poster on this forum, he/she will definitely like to get merits. No one can deny the importance of merits not only because it gives you better rank, but it also proves that you are a quality writer.  I think this assumption is also wrong that anyone writes quality posts and still does not get merits. Those who does not get merits, don't deserve to get it.

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When you say that "Merit isn't everything in bitcointalk!", its like saying that "Money isn't everything in this world!"
You need money to have a better life style in this world and similarly you need merits to have a better feeling on this forum too. But for both merits and money, you have to work for it.

Guys, I am not against earning merits just understand what I am trying to say.

Even with quality posts it is hard for random newbies to get a huge number of merits and there are some exceptions as well but as we are all talking about the regular member don't feel low when you are not earned what you actually deserved, the time will come. Until that doesn't say you are not deserved to be here.

[hatshepsut93]

When you say that "Merit isn't everything in bitcointalk!", its like saying that "Money isn't everything in this world!"
You need money to have a better life style in this world and similarly you need merits to have a better feeling on this forum too. But for both merits and money, you have to work for it.

Apples and oranges. This forum is totally usable even if you have 0 merit, you can still participate in discussions and read posts of other users to get more knowledge. But trying living without money - it's just impossible. Merit lets you have higher rank, and higher rank gives you features like avatars and such, but they are purely decorative. This forum was doing just fine before the times of sig campaigns and merit points, because first and foremost it's a place to learn and discuss Bitcoin.

[AakZaki]

I can't understand when the OP said "Merit isn't everything in bitcointalk". could you have said that when you were a newbie?
You say that because maybe you are already in a campaign. try you are still a newbie and have not been in the campaign for sure you will never say that.
basically something that has a strong relationship with the forum has an important role including the acquisition of merit, just maybe you do not realize because your goal is at least achieved.

[BITCOIN4X]

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Mate, I am sure if you only read the title, there will be an intention to refute the opinion expressed by the OP.

I think the title would be more suitable to be not sad if you have not gotten an merit and it seems more in line with the contents of the thread. The reason is.

Actually what I wanted to tell is, if you are not making enough merits even after you are giving your maximum effort doesn't mean that you are not deserved to be on bitcointalk at someday you will get caught by the merits sources until that keep posting and learn new things which you are being yourself.

Sometimes, incorrect placement of titles will lead to several different assumptions. So basically the title of the thread is a summary of what we want to convey with the contents on the thread.

[romelitounknown]

Not everyone here just for merits,others just love to questions or answers the topic. Not everyone here are looking for some returns in btc ,so just feel free to express your ideas about the matter,that's most important.

[santosmichael]

Sorry for another topic about merit guys! But I wanted to tell this to everyone, especially to newbies.

A high number of merits earned by an individual is a sign that he is a quality poster but it doesn't mean every less earned member is not knowledgeable enough. Earning merits depends on a lot of factors like which section we would like to post/discuss and which local board we belong to. So some members can earn more if their board and section have high active members and merit sources.

Actually what I wanted to tell is, if you are not making enough merits even after you are giving your maximum effort doesn't mean that you are not deserved to be on bitcointalk at someday you will get caught by the merits sources until that keep posting and learn new things which you are being yourself.

Exactly,
at first, i didn't think I could get my first merit,

I used to try to be diligent creating a good and useful posts, and apparently someone suddenly gave me merit.

So just trying and trying, keep learning and learning.

[TheBeardedBaby]

I can't understand when the OP said "Merit isn't everything in bitcointalk". could you have said that when you were a newbie?
You say that because maybe you are already in a campaign. try you are still a newbie and have not been in the campaign for sure you will never say that.
basically something that has a strong relationship with the forum has an important role including the acquisition of merit, just maybe you do not realize because your goal is at least achieved.

I was repeating this just after the merit system came in place. I was a member back then but I wasn't interested in signature campaigns I was just enjoying the forum. Now I can say that this paid off and I ended up on the best campaign just like that, I never believed that I could join CM at all.
Merit is not everything.
If you care only for the merit and take this forum as a job, you are doing it wrong.
I already have a full time job, I need some place to relax and have fun, make what I like (sorry spammers), I take the reward as a bonus for the joy.
Life is short, you have to enjoy it

[Findingnemo]

I can't understand when the OP said "Merit isn't everything in bitcointalk". could you have said that when you were a newbie?
You say that because maybe you are already in a campaign. try you are still a newbie and have not been in the campaign for sure you will never say that.
basically something that has a strong relationship with the forum has an important role including the acquisition of merit, just maybe you do not realize because your goal is at least achieved.

I was repeating this just after the merit system came in place. I was a member back then but I wasn't interested in signature campaigns I was just enjoying the forum. Now I can say that this paid off and I ended up on the best campaign just like that, I never believed that I could join CM at all.
Merit is not everything.
If you care only for the merit and take this forum as a job, you are doing it wrong.
I already have a full time job, I need some place to relax and have fun, make what I like (sorry spammers), I take the reward as a bonus for the joy.
Life is short, you have to enjoy it

He didn't read all the replies that is the reason he didn't get what is the intention of this thread.

You are one of the great inspiration to me and I still remember you name from your old avatar only, now it's a little bit harder.

You earned lot of merits and its possible with your knowledge and natural posting behavior but if I try to do the same as you do which may not get success in getting the merits so what I am always trying to say others is, try to be yourself and be unique on this what you are doing.

[nakamura12]

It is useless to be someone else when it comes to posting and if ever you found an information which would help anyone then why not bother to share it and just post what you know and then many people will appreciate what you've done. Clearly the merit is for reducing spam and not a forum where earning merit is the first thing to do here.