Merit isn't everything in bitcointalk!

[skarais]

You earned lot of merits and its possible with your knowledge and natural posting behavior but if I try to do the same as you do which may not get success in getting the merits so what I am always trying to say others is, try to be yourself and be unique on this what you are doing.

Do you believe that a local board is a board that help many users get merit and move up in rank?
I am sure there are merit sources on the local board that can help you get merit and of course if you can make quality posts. The habit of posting on boards that are often ignored by merit sources can also prevent you from getting merit, and that is like gambling boards, alternative cryptocurrency and many others.

Be yourself even though there are others who have inspired you, make quality posts naturally and I am sure you will soon get your wish.

[Findingnemo]

You earned lot of merits and its possible with your knowledge and natural posting behavior but if I try to do the same as you do which may not get success in getting the merits so what I am always trying to say others is, try to be yourself and be unique on this what you are doing.

Do you believe that a local board is a board that help many users get merit and move up in rank?

We can't deny the fact local boards are getting more activity and merit per post ratio compared to the main discussion board but that's is not actually I am trying to say here.

[DdmrDdmr]

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Merit per post on a given board is not that simple to interpret, since the ratio shows a result, but does not dig into the causes behind the result. Say for example that a local board has very few posters, but an active Merit Source (and not a mean one while at it). In this scenario, the local board’s ratio may be high, but the impact low (only a few users may benefit from that ratio).

We can take a look at some merit/post ratios on forum boards here (selections are customizable):
https://public.tableau.com/shared/6GPY2Y92Z?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link

The influence of local boards on people ranking-up is better viewed on a case by case basis. For example, in this post (in Spanish), we can see the influence in terms of % of merits made on a local board by those that ranked-up at some point needing merits on the Spanish Local board:
Relación de las personas que han escalado de rango en nuestro foro local.

If we scroll the list enclosed in the OP, of the above link to the right, we’ll see the column "% Español" which indicates what % of the merits of a given profile have been originates in the Spanish Local board.  For Full Member onwards, with some exceptions, % of Spanish earned merits is less in proportion to the total earned merits (with a few exceptions), and rather variable per person. Overall, the highest Spanish 100% earned local merit rank is Full Member (just one case).

[finaleshot2016]

Actually what I wanted to tell is, if you are not making enough merits even after you are giving your maximum effort doesn't mean that you are not deserved to be on bitcointalk at someday you will get caught by the merits sources until that keep posting and learn new things which you are being yourself.

So this means, there are still users who do not receive merit even though they do have the highest capacity to make posts?
Well, I guess it's the responsibility of the system, as, on some other boards, the circulation of merit was very low, and I doubt that any good posters on that board would earn merit.

I guess they're supposed to adopt other boards to earn merit if that's what they want. If they're very good posters, they can apply it on different boards. Cryptocurrency is a wide-ranging subject, and you can create essential topics or posts that are connected to it.

A number of good posts is more important than number of merit. Even you'll have a lot of merit, you can don't have enough messages yet to promote the rang

Well, it's true if the good posts are not common, extraordinary, and have a good meaning. If a good post doesn't have those qualities that I've mentioned then I guess it's not a good post 'cause if it's really a quality then someone might give even single merit already if it's really a good post.

[Findingnemo]

Actually what I wanted to tell is, if you are not making enough merits even after you are giving your maximum effort doesn't mean that you are not deserved to be on bitcointalk at someday you will get caught by the merits sources until that keep posting and learn new things which you are being yourself.

So this means, there are still users who do not receive merit even though they do have the highest capacity to make posts?
Well, I guess it's the responsibility of the system, as, on some other boards, the circulation of merit was very low, and I doubt that any good posters on that board would earn merit.

I guess they're supposed to adopt other boards to earn merit if that's what they want. If they're very good posters, they can apply it on different boards. Cryptocurrency is a wide-ranging subject, and you can create essential topics or posts that are connected to it.

What if that local poster is not good at English, they might use translators but most of the time google translate mess up with the translation and change the whole meaning of the statement so people think that user is spamming or having low level knowledge.

[finaleshot2016]

Actually what I wanted to tell is, if you are not making enough merits even after you are giving your maximum effort doesn't mean that you are not deserved to be on bitcointalk at someday you will get caught by the merits sources until that keep posting and learn new things which you are being yourself.

So this means, there are still users who do not receive merit even though they do have the highest capacity to make posts?
Well, I guess it's the responsibility of the system, as, on some other boards, the circulation of merit was very low, and I doubt that any good posters on that board would earn merit.

I guess they're supposed to adopt other boards to earn merit if that's what they want. If they're very good posters, they can apply it on different boards. Cryptocurrency is a wide-ranging subject, and you can create essential topics or posts that are connected to it.

What if that local poster is not good at English, they might use translators but most of the time google translate mess up with the translation and change the whole meaning of the statement so people think that user is spamming or having low level knowledge.

I doubt someone does not know the basic English language. I joined this forum with a low level of English knowledge because it is one of my most despised subjects, but now I have learned to type in English by doing it on the international boards.

And on top of that, most of the advertisements, crypto platforms and some features of this forum were written in English so I doubt they don't even know the basics. If someone doesn't really know English, this forum also features free ebooks or even google books that will let you learn it.

[Findingnemo]

I doubt someone does not know the basic English language. I joined this forum with a low level of English knowledge because it is one of my most despised subjects, but now I have learned to type in English by doing it on the international boards.

And on top of that, most of the advertisements, crypto platforms and some features of this forum were written in English so I doubt they don't even know the basics. If someone doesn't really know English, this forum also features free ebooks or even google books that will let you learn it.

This is what exactly the newbies should do, we should start as a beginner at anything so it will take time right? In the meanwhile time, they may get disappointing for not earning merits that is the time they should keep doing the right things than expecting the merit to come right after their try.

[Fleytz]

my personal opinion is sometime merit and rank are important for people that have good and spend so much time in bitcointalk
and some airdrops chaser like me that require to be junior/senior members.

but merit isnt the main focus, as we can still look and read posts, find some knowledges or informations.
it depends on the individu itself, what is the main focus of their purpose.

[cooltoadfrommoon]

my personal opinion is sometime merit and rank are important for people that have good and spend so much time in bitcointalk
and some airdrops chaser like me that require to be junior/senior members.

but merit isn't the main focus, as we can still look and read posts, find some knowledges or informations.
it depends on the individu itself, what is the main focus of their purpose.

Yes, Most people join bitcointalk for bounty or signature campaign. The forum was full of shitty poster once and that's why theymos decided to bring merit. Which helped a lot to improve this bitcoin community. Although, it has some bad effects too like some are selling merit or giving merit to alts.         

[nakamura12]

This is what exactly the newbies should do, we should start as a beginner at anything so it will take time right? In the meanwhile time, they may get disappointing for not earning merits that is the time they should keep doing the right things than expecting the merit to come right after their try.

Once we join something like a forum or other stuff we already start as a beginner so it's only natural that we are still learning as a newbie until we gather informations later on and learn from it. I joined bitcointalk on january and days later merit is implemented on yhe forum and that means that I should learn more and here I am learning bit by bit.

[greenlanternlight01]

Sorry for another topic about merit guys! But I wanted to tell this to everyone, especially to newbies.

A high number of merits earned by an individual is a sign that he is a quality poster but it doesn't mean every less earned member is not knowledgeable enough. Earning merits depends on a lot of factors like which section we would like to post/discuss and which local board we belong to. So some members can earn more if their board and section have high active members and merit sources.

Actually what I wanted to tell is, if you are not making enough merits even after you are giving your maximum effort doesn't mean that you are not deserved to be on bitcointalk at someday you will get caught by the merits sources until that keep posting and learn new things which you are being yourself.

Right right. Of course no one's here just for the merits itself and expecting big return, I myself just want to express my daily ideas on anything under the sun

[Review Master]

What if that local poster is not good at English, they might use translators but most of the time google translate mess up with the translation and change the whole meaning of the statement so people think that user is spamming or having low level knowledge.

That's right. I also try my local section to make awareness among the lovely local members. I choice a topic and make a post with the best quality which i can express through the words. After posting in our local section, i try every translator website or app and check the translated one which looks like a low level post. That's really unacceptable , but if i try to write that using English, i can definitely write better which will be more qualified than the translated one.

[Nellayar]

I just want this to share guys.

Taxation

I created that topic last April 2018. But it was given merit a year after I posted that thread, see here.

What I want to emphasize is that even you have a good post or created a useful thread, don`t expect for merit. Because as soon as the users here recognize your post, they will surely look for your previous post. Then if they satisfied with it, merit will come towards after you.

Just don`t cease to learn and help this forum. Don`t be also discourage that your posts are not given merits or never been acknowledge.. Merit is just an incentive for your post but the true reward of it is the knowledge you gained when you exerted an effort in your post.

[cabalism13]

I created that topic last April 2018. But it was given merit a year after I posted that thread, see here.

My bad.

What I want to emphasize is that even you have a good post or created a useful thread, don`t expect for merit. Because as soon as the users here recognize your post, they will surely look for your previous post. Then if they satisfied with it, merit will come towards after you.

Just don`t cease to learn and help this forum. Don`t be also discourage that your posts are not given merits or never been acknowledge.. Merit is just an incentive for your post but the true reward of it is the knowledge you gained when you exerted an effort in your post.

yeah, great.
As for me... Nevermind.
MeritDidBrokeMyLife on these past years and now I'm only a bit needy to reach the Legendary.
Some posts aren't meant to be merited, Some posts gets 1-50 depends on the user who sees them.
So, yeah. As for this time, no one should be bothered anymore by this system. If you'll gonna ask me it's way more strict before than this present times.

[Daniel91]

I created that topic last April 2018. But it was given merit a year after I posted that thread, see here.

My bad.

What I want to emphasize is that even you have a good post or created a useful thread, don`t expect for merit. Because as soon as the users here recognize your post, they will surely look for your previous post. Then if they satisfied with it, merit will come towards after you.

Just don`t cease to learn and help this forum. Don`t be also discourage that your posts are not given merits or never been acknowledge.. Merit is just an incentive for your post but the true reward of it is the knowledge you gained when you exerted an effort in your post.

yeah, great.
As for me... Nevermind.
MeritDidBrokeMyLife on these past years and now I'm only a bit needy to reach the Legendary.
Some posts aren't meant to be merited, Some posts gets 1-50 depends on the user who sees them.
So, yeah. As for this time, no one should be bothered anymore by this system. If you'll gonna ask me it's way more strict before than this present times.

I also see that some posts are more popular like scam reports or tutorials and usually have more merits.
Some posts don't get enough merits, specially in local boards because most merit sources can't understand language.
Can we do anything about it?
I'm afraid not 
There is no absolute justice in life.

[DdmrDdmr]

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Nevertheless, it doesn’t have to lead to a stalemate type situation. From a Local Board’s perspective, there are a couple of pros and cons to their situation, bearing in mind that there is an array of heterogeneous circumstances.

My local board for example is currently visited by a Merit Source, rather regularly to date. Alas, he is rather mean, and tends to merit post at a rate of 1 or 2 sMerits per merited post. The good thing is that there are not too many active people there, so it’s not difficult to get merited. The bad, is that the pace is relatively slow compared to other areas of the forum. A few other merit sources do visit it every now and then (some native, others with some language skills), and spice things up a bit once in a while (not too often though).

I figure there are still boards which lack a Merit Source, and probably don’t have enough activity to warrant one (or at least, one with a significant amount). It may seem like a catch-22 type situation there. Other boards may have a single Merit Source and a language that is more incomprehensible to outsiders, and therefore are more dependent on whether the Source’s monthly allowance is decent enough, and how active they are (aside from how objective the Source is).

Probably the best one can do if they find that their local board lacks enough merits is to shout out, by building a documented case. That is, identify and list (alone or collectively, in a thread) unmerited/under merited posts, and if the number of cases and apparent content is compelling, it probably won’t be overseen if presented in Meta. Still the Language barrier will play against, but if the numbers speak for themselves, then there is a case to defend. 

[Findingnemo]

I also see that some posts are more popular like scam reports or tutorials and usually have more merits.
Some posts don't get enough merits, specially in local boards because most merit sources can't understand language.
Can we do anything about it?
I'm afraid not 
There is no absolute justice in life.

Not every merit sources have equal amount of merits, it changes for every merit sources.Some local board merit sources may not have huge allocation to spend for that month so they will be very picky and award less merits in number but some merits have more allocation so they are spending more if it is worth. Remember some local boards don't even have any merit sources so they will never get any merits even if they are highly quality poster.