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April 23, 2020, 07:56:16 PM
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Hello, I heard from a friend who used to bet at betking that their website was hacked and later recently when i saw a thread where betking owner said he is paying back people the money I felt like he is doing a good deed and replied positively only because I felt something good was done.

Now I have been given negative trust for that, I am sorry to anyone who offended by me appreciating a good deed (from what I understood) and please can I request the negative trust to be removed?

My post I made:

Great news for those who lost and requires a big heart to refund players who I am sure must have abused you when you got hacked. Well done.
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April 23, 2020, 08:01:07 PM
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Part of the trust left by JollyGood says "JustinBounty knows there was no hack at betking.io".

My question is who are you, OP, and do you have a connection with any of this?  And that'll likely be my only question, because I haven't been paying much attention to recent scams and don't know the details about this supposed one.  Is "JustinBounty" a member who should know about there being or not being a hack at betking.io?  Some clarification would be nice.

As far as the feedback goes, there isn't much you can do.  You might prevail upon JollyGood to revise or remove it, but he's the only one who can do so.

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April 23, 2020, 08:05:41 PM
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Part of the trust left by JollyGood says "JustinBounty knows there was no hack at betking.io".

My question is who are you, OP, and do you have a connection with any of this?  And that'll likely be my only question, because I haven't been paying much attention to recent scams and don't know the details about this supposed one.  Is "JustinBounty" a member who should know about there being or not being a hack at betking.io?  Some clarification would be nice.

As far as the feedback goes, there isn't much you can do.  You might prevail upon JollyGood to revise or remove it, but he's the only one who can do so.

I can promise and confirm I never knew there was a scam involved at all a friend of mine told me that he used to bet on betking and they got hacked and then as I said recently suddenly when I saw their thread I felt like they are doing something good and made that comment.

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Great news for those who lost and requires a big heart to refund players who I am sure must have abused you when you got hacked. Well done.

I also sent him an apology and clarification but if you ask me, I haven't done anything wrong still I would say. At least not intentionally.
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April 23, 2020, 08:09:40 PM
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Part of the trust left by JollyGood says "JustinBounty knows there was no hack at betking.io".

My question is who are you, OP, and do you have a connection with any of this?  And that'll likely be my only question, because I haven't been paying much attention to recent scams and don't know the details about this supposed one.  Is "JustinBounty" a member who should know about there being or not being a hack at betking.io?  Some clarification would be nice.

As far as the feedback goes, there isn't much you can do.  You might prevail upon JollyGood to revise or remove it, but he's the only one who can do so.

I can promise and confirm I never knew there was a scam involved at all a friend of mine told me that he used to bet on betking and they got hacked and then as I said recently suddenly when I saw their thread I felt like they are doing something good and made that comment.

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Great news for those who lost and requires a big heart to refund players who I am sure must have abused you when you got hacked. Well done.

I also sent him an apology and clarification but if you ask me, I haven't done anything wrong still I would say. At least not intentionally.

Just ignore him. He won't take that -ve trust back. He's an idiot troll.
I wouldn't pay much attention to the trust system here, it means nothing and is abused by a small crew who get off on drama in this cesspit.
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April 23, 2020, 08:16:29 PM
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Part of the trust left by JollyGood says "JustinBounty knows there was no hack at betking.io".

My question is who are you, OP, and do you have a connection with any of this?  And that'll likely be my only question, because I haven't been paying much attention to recent scams and don't know the details about this supposed one.  Is "JustinBounty" a member who should know about there being or not being a hack at betking.io?  Some clarification would be nice.

As far as the feedback goes, there isn't much you can do.  You might prevail upon JollyGood to revise or remove it, but he's the only one who can do so.

I can promise and confirm I never knew there was a scam involved at all a friend of mine told me that he used to bet on betking and they got hacked and then as I said recently suddenly when I saw their thread I felt like they are doing something good and made that comment.

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Great news for those who lost and requires a big heart to refund players who I am sure must have abused you when you got hacked. Well done.

I also sent him an apology and clarification but if you ask me, I haven't done anything wrong still I would say. At least not intentionally.

Just ignore him. He won't take that -ve trust back. He's an idiot troll.
I wouldn't pay much attention to the trust system here, it means nothing and is abused by a small crew who get off on drama in this cesspit.

I don't know if I am allowed to reply to you man .. I regret why I even replied in the main thread. My account is wasted .. if you scammed or not I dont care I just saw and felt something good was done and I appreciated that but paid the price of my account Sad
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April 23, 2020, 09:05:59 PM
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Great news for those who lost and requires a big heart to refund players who I am sure must have abused you when you got hacked. Well done.

I also sent him an apology and clarification but if you ask me, I haven't done anything wrong still I would say. At least not intentionally.

Your post which initiates red trust from @JollyGood looks like a usual shill, a common method of trying to manipulate trust. you post it up without knowing the situation, we can even say that you wrote the obvious falsehood. it's completely unclear why you did it, you are not in any signature, so it is not a signature count post. Two options remain, you are connected to Betking and Dean Nolan and spread for them or you are troll-spammer and you just like to post something.

as far as I know, JollyGood is also scammed in a similar way so they have zero tolerance to such practices. you will agree with me that it is a logical consequence.
You don't need to apologize to him, you need to be more careful when post something here. Especially when you want to stand up for someone who is already seriously marked as a fraudster.
I deliberately @mentioned them, I guess they will read this and give you his final decision. As Pharmacist says, only JollyGood can remove this feedback.
good luck.

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April 23, 2020, 09:10:18 PM
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Nobody really cares about red-trusts anymore unless you did something really serious.

Flags are what really count now, not feedbacks. (most of the time)

Don't worry about it.

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April 24, 2020, 02:01:52 AM
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JollyGood is just an waste of the DT1 space here.

You should better ignore his feedback, I am sure you would be more effective in Ignoring someone than that piece of shit and a lier. And the best course of action would be ~JollyGood in your trust list.

Red trust for politely saying someone that you are doing a good work by refunding the victims, what an dickheaded judgement explicitly from the people who trust him. ( Lack of Objective Standards )
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April 24, 2020, 12:02:08 PM
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People get arrogant with power in hands while they actually need to have a stable head I believe is more important. Anyways if this is what a decentralized forum looks like then well good luck, because this is being controlled by a group of people who wants to make money with signature camps and how funny is that I am not even promoting any signatures or brands man so why would I even spam?
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April 24, 2020, 01:12:15 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229023.msg53925817#msg53925817

Another insane use of red tags.

Jollygood is a fake scam hunter. He only picks on easy targets but will allow his DT pals to work with scams he busted previously
Himself

Take a look through his history. Jollygood is a cretin

Join the objective standards guild in meta. That will eventually solve this issue of diluting the purpose and usefulness of the trust system.

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April 24, 2020, 03:41:43 PM
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JustinBounty asked me to respond here, so I will Smiley

i saw a thread where betking owner said he is paying back people the money I felt like he is doing a good deed and replied positively only because I felt something good was done.
How can you care about good deeds .....
if you scammed or not I dont care
.... while you don't care about scams?

I wouldn't leave negative feedback for this, but I understand why JollyGood does it. BetKing has had shill-accounts before, and shilling for a proven scammer makes you look untrustworthy.



this is being controlled by a group of people who wants to make money with signature camps
JollyGood doesn't have a paid signature.



I wouldn't pay much attention to the trust system here, it means nothing and is abused by a small crew who get off on drama in this cesspit.
Says every scammer on Bitcointalk.

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April 24, 2020, 04:53:58 PM
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BetKing has had shill-accounts before,

That is not true.
Go and ask all your mod crew to check the accounts of all the people you claim are shills. Even go through their complete post history.
None of them are mine. I have this account, and support/prc related accounts that are clearly marked.

Get over yourself. The forum is shit. People moved on. The reason half the posts saying they got funds back from me are have little post history is because they were here around 2015-2016 and moved on or created a new account because they lost access to their old one. Also think some people probably have a "real" account and a separate account so that people don't link in real life that they had a large sum of btc to invest in a btc casino.

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April 24, 2020, 05:24:41 PM
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This can not be standard operating procedure to tag accounts like these for one simple reason. It means no one can freely discuss the guilt or innocence of parties if some hard on like jollygood decides he is right. Disagreeing is not grounds for a negative rating. This is more guilt via association bullshit and is itself a way to manipulate the trust system by silencing opposing voices. Without any evidence this is not acceptable because it is completely indistinguishable from someone simply stating their opinion. Jollygood knows this but he is one of several chodes around here who thinks they are Ms. Cleo. This is about jollygood serving his own compulsions for control, not serving the community.

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I wouldn't leave negative feedback for this, but I understand why JollyGood does it. BetKing has had shill-accounts before, and shilling for a proven scammer makes you look untrustworthy.

I wouldn't leave negative in this case either, but also understand JollyGood's reasons. 

@JustinBounty, if you feel like this is unjustified, communicate with JollyGood to explain to him why.  He may not change his mind, but at the very least you'll give him reason to evaluate his rating.  That may convince him to revise his review in the future.

Regardless of the community's general consensus, reviews are not moderated.  Bringing it up for the community to review is also productive, even if you don't get the results you want right now.  JollyGood is within his rights to leave his reviews for whatever reason he feels is justified.  However, if the community starts to recognize a pattern of inaccurate reviews, he'll be removed from DT eventually.

@JollyGood, I know you've been working hard to keep the community safe from scammers, and that's commendable.  I would suggest you exsersise a bit of restraint in situations like this one.  Leaving reviews for a suspicion isn't against the rules, but it could create a sense that you are quick to leave inaccurate reviews.  That could compromise your position on DT, and therefor minimize the impact of your more accurate reviews.

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Thanks for your reply but I said I don't care he scams or not because I cannot help it either ways but if I see something good I just appreciated that, I am not at all connected with betking but anyways I do understand you have to take his side because he is more powerful than me but in life you will I believe get in a similar situation and you would feel the pain when someone instead of helping you just sticks with the powerful guy.


@TECSHARE

Thanks for standing up and I have done the required action although I don't think if it will help at all. Added him to that list as suggested.


@DireWolfM14

I explained him and even apologized to him but after getting no response and even you can see here he hasn't replied so he is pretty much arrogant enough to avoid anything being discussed. The paranoid thinking where you believe what you do is right and others are wrong is what Jollygood is going through. I hope he serves for his sins and I do for my own, whoever is right or wrong.
Thank you for at least being neutral and able to differentiate difference between right and wrong.

I again repeat, I just saw a hacked (as told by my friend) website returning and paying back others so I made that comment, I AM IN NO WAY RELATED TO DEAL or anything else and I apologize to everyone and anyone whom I might have hurt unintentionally. I never meant to support any scam and neither I was getting paid to make that post so just spare a thought why I would do it? Only because I felt it was a good deed which later turns our that beking has scammed so I regret my comment but I believe I still haven't done anything as wrong to be called a scammer or being mentioned trade with caution since this has nothing to do it.
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April 25, 2020, 04:42:53 AM
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Stop defending scammers like Betking by making up lies, and you will have no issues. What is the problem exactly?

Only because I felt it was a good deed which later turns our that beking has scammed so I regret my comment but I believe I still haven't done anything as wrong to be called a scammer or being mentioned trade with caution since this has nothing to do it.
Wrong. If you knowingly support a scammer, you are also a scammer.

I again repeat, I just saw a hacked (as told by my friend) website returning and paying back others so I made that comment
Retract the statement and stop wasting server bytes.

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April 25, 2020, 04:45:05 AM
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Part of the trust left by JollyGood says "JustinBounty knows there was no hack at betking.io".

My question is who are you, OP, and do you have a connection with any of this?

I also want to know how I am supposed to know that some website has scammed when they publicly said they were hacked being a neutral person I would believe they were hacked little do I know that jolly hate betking lol
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Stop defending scammers like Betking by making up lies, and you will have no issues. What is the problem exactly?

Only because I felt it was a good deed which later turns our that beking has scammed so I regret my comment but I believe I still haven't done anything as wrong to be called a scammer or being mentioned trade with caution since this has nothing to do it.
Wrong. If you knowingly support a scammer, you are also a scammer.

I again repeat, I just saw a hacked (as told by my friend) website returning and paying back others so I made that comment
Retract the statement and stop wasting server bytes.

I am not defending anyone, I was unaware of something and I made a comment later I realize that the guy I felt was hacked actually cheated .. how I am supposed to be called a scammer? And please can you ask jolly to reply if he has enough time because it would be great to know his opinion.

I hate betking now but I never knew all drama when i posted my comment, you get it? please?
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I hate betking now but I never knew all drama when i posted my comment, you get it? please?
Why would you post about it when you know nothing about it? Are you from the United States? Cheesy

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I hate betking now but I never knew all drama when i posted my comment, you get it? please?
Why would you post about it when you know nothing about it? Are you from the United States? Cheesy

I wish you could read above, a friend used to bet at betking got it? he told me betking got hacked got it? Time passes by got it please? Now I see them paying back I felt they are doing a good thing and posted it, got it please again?

Please keep me away from religious or country based hate, I am too old for these. Corona covid-19 is nothing compared to what sort of virus is developing at this forum and Theymos being Trump.

Are you from China?  Cheesy
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