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April 24, 2020, 01:57:02 AM
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Hey guys,

Please stay away from cryptopokerclub – They scam me for 4btc.

Profil Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1935242

Their thread - BEST CRYPTO POKER | NEW CORONAVIRUS RELIEF PACKAGE: 3X CASH BONUS + LESS RAKE
You can see how many people got scammed there!!!

Amount scammed: 4 BTC

Payment method: Bitcoin

Proof of payment: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/bc1qmyqdqg2l0f37wmkzlz5u8axnmawndnmv7t7kwn

Additional Notes: I advise you to not deal with this user until this dispute is resolved

My user name on the platform is Lastcall and played for year and a half.
On April 6th I requested a withdraw around 12pm Eastern Time for 0.01btc. The next morning around 8.30am I couldn’t log in with my password and blacklisted my account. I email the support about it and they sent me this:

Hello,

Your password has been reset to: D8J_Df3J@enT

The account has been blocked due to incorrect password attempts and now has been unlocked.

Regards,
Crypto Poker Club Team

I log in my account and surprise I saw a different balance around 0.6btc.I wasn’t sure what was happening and asked support about it. The night before I had ~ 5.77 btc.  I checked the withdraw history and I saw 2 requested cash outs – 1) 0.01 btc around  12pm Eastern Time ( from myself before I went to bed) and 2) 4btc 7:10am Eastern Time.  I also checked the REPLAY HAND option on the poker platform because there was still missing 1.17btc and I saw the last 5-6 hands where the person who log in on the account  lost them on 1/2 NL Holdem table(chip dumping) vs Shaolin10.
According to CPC (Cryptopokerclub) my account was hacked.  This is simply not possible because I use my PC strictly for playing poker and the rest of my accounts on other poker platform are not hacked. I even hired a professional to check my PC and he couldn’t find anything.
However it is pretty obvious how they scam me. Please take a look at the email they send me once I asked for new password (they create the new one). Every other poker site sends you an email with a link where you have to change it yourself for obvious reasons. This way they can latterly change every player password and log with their new password (explain the fact that I wasn’t able to log in with my original password cause they change it). The other thing is according to them the second withdraw was requested from Germany and approved for 9 minutes (7:10am Eastern Time request/7:19am Eastern Time approved and sent). How would you approve cash out given the facts that:
1)   I live in Canada and never played from another location on the poker site since I create an account  September 2018 
2)   7hours later after my first requested withdraw someone log in from the other side of the world and requested another one if this is not suspicious don’t know what it is especially for such a large number.
CPC  explanation:
The withdrawal was already approved and in queue prior to the 4000 mBTC withdrawal request due to the 10 mBTC request from earlier. It was simply added to an existing queue ready to be sent out later today. The original request was approved at the time indicated (Finance Team accepted Withdrawal #45291 for 0.01 BTC made on April 07 at 05:20 UTC - Withdrawal included into queue).
The way they do the withdraws is that they group them together and send them daily. I don’t understand how would you approve the second withdraw based on the first one especially if the IP address is totally unusual (Germany). I know why because it was made by you and this is how you took the 4btc.
They refund me 1.17btc that was chip dumped from 1/2  HU NL table to make me feel good about the whole situation. Probably so I can keep playing on the site and generate rake but I can’t trust them anymore and  I cashed out the remain balance-1.70btc. If it was a real hacker he/she would cash out all the balance and won’t leave any btc on the account.

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April 24, 2020, 02:06:21 AM
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This user plays at SWC as well. Very sorry to hear his history. 4BTC is a lot of money.

@Lastcalls Please add a flag & post here the flag link  -  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1935242

Read more about Trust flags - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153344.0

If it was a real hacker he/she would cash out all the balance and won’t leave any btc on the account.


My wallets were hacked too & the hacker didn't leave any penny in the account so I totally agree with you.

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I know right. It does not make any sense. If it was a hacker he would take my swc balance as well...
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April 24, 2020, 05:56:24 AM
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The fact that they approved your cash out which is not from your usual IP is enough to prove that they are scammers. That is the whole point of manual cash out system to prevent any hacking attempt to cash out your funds.
The other point is valid too, that any fair website cannot change your password without  sending password changing mail. They simply steal your funds and you should open a flag against them.
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April 24, 2020, 08:45:14 AM
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Hey guys,

I was also scammed by Crypto Poker Club (CryptoPokerClub.io Scam), which coincidentally changed domain to Crypto Poker Group (CryptoPokerGroup.com SCAM).

These scammers have taken the coins of so many people. They got me for like 1 BTC around 1 year ago.

Here are tons of the scams they have pulled. They probably have taken over $100k in players funds.



Let me repost all the posts/replies of you scamming people's money:

Let me list all of the threads here:

*I love the comments in the scamadviser site Wink

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/cryptopokerclub-seizing-funds-deposits-not-safe-1745287/
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/cryptopokerclub-confiscated-some-my-money-1747977/
https://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/cryptopokerclub.io

...and ALL of the so many scam accusations here in this thread (Ohh, don't worry, I will list all of the scam accusations in this post, so you don't have to search them yourself Wink )

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg46986363#msg46986363
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg47028477#msg47028477
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg47066803#msg47066803
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg47155296#msg47155296
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg49218894#msg49218894
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg49308262#msg49308262
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg49310364#msg49310364
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg49356167#msg49356167
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg49356487#msg49356487
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg49371454#msg49371454
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg49538879#msg49538879
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg49760316#msg49760316
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg50418517#msg50418517
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg51438745#msg51438745
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg51518477#msg51518477
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg51525627#msg51525627
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg51535234#msg51535234
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg51538329#msg51538329
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg51573452#msg51573452
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg51753498#msg51753498
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg51861151#msg51861151
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg51892592#msg51892592
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg51997353#msg51997353
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg52116808#msg52116808
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg52146384#msg52146384
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg52146823#msg52146823
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg52152470#msg52152470
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg52201976#msg52201976
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg53782164#msg53782164
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg54248140#msg54248140

Some other pots in other threads:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4881012.msg46253837#msg46253837
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4881012.msg47011680#msg47011680
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4881012.msg48031864#msg48031864

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4888139.msg44156128#msg44156128

https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/showthread.php?16906-Tam-Nyguyen-is-a-shill

https://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comments/c5pmc7/reliability_of_crypto_poker_club/


Ohh and by the way, why don't you address your predatory terms when it comes to giving those "100%" deposit bonus?

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Just to make it more interesting I saw more things!

- Your 0.5BTC "Freeroll" was just a "0.5mbtc" freeroll - Deceptive marketing tricks!
- Rake goes uncapped when it was supposed to be capped!
- Hired House players! ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg47114322#msg47114322 - Your reply )

I'm really sorry about everyone who got scammed by them.

I've been really active on their thread trying to warn players NOT to play in there.

I hope this gets resolved one way or another.

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April 24, 2020, 09:29:01 AM
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Hello,

I was one of the first (if not the first) to call them out as a scam. I heard about them a couple years ago, started playing the freerolls and thought it was going to be easy building up a roll and I wouldn’t have to deposit. I even signed up as an affiliate and put a link on my site, CryptoNinja.co

My first sign that something was wrong was that after only a few days I received a very unprofessional email complaining that I hadn’t referred anyone yet. I removed the link from my site.

The next thing I noticed was that some of the players seemed to be bots. These players at times would make very strange calls. It’s almost as if they knew ahead of time what cards would come. Then I noticed it was going to be very hard to withdraw. Actually, playing the freerolls (if you win) makes it HARDER to withdraw because you need to have paid some formula, times of rake has to be greater than your freeroll winnings. Almost everyone in the freerolls were unaware of this, and once they figured it out they went to the cash tables and got cleaned out, as did I. More very strange hands happened, including one (in a cash game) where I held KK, raised pre, bet pot flop, all in turn on a board of like 3,7,J,2 and was snap called by A9. Ace river. Very, very weird call.

I mentioned some things seemed weird in the Telegram, instantly banned. Tried contact through Twitter, instantly blocked. Account frozen. So, it was at this time I posted on Bitcointalk. I may have rambled on a little in the thread (more about specific hands) and they complained and said I was “spamming” and the fantastic mods here punished me by removing my ability to have a signature. Despite the fact that I came here trying to help the community, and they have continued to scam people, my punishment remains. Thanks Bitcointalk mods! Fabulous job! Bravo.

P.S. I have messaged the mods on multiple occasions and they do not respond.
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April 24, 2020, 09:38:42 AM
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The possible hack does not have to come from your computer, though no matter how much you seem to be going on safety websites, you can't be 100% sure. justification for being hacked is becoming more and more common by fraudsters.
Can you share here all your conversation with his support about this problem? Also, it will be fine if we can hear the explanation from CryptoPokerClub

edit: I support your flag which can be revised if evidence something else.

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April 24, 2020, 10:24:42 AM
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The possible hack does not have to come from your computer, though no matter how much you seem to be going on safety websites, you can't be 100% sure. justification for being hacked is becoming more and more common by fraudsters.
Can you share here all your conversation with his support about this problem? Also, it will be fine if we can hear the explanation from CryptoPokerClub

edit: I support your flag which can be revised if evidence something else.

Don't worry about those scammers replying. They ignore everything and just keep scamming players.

I've been warning players to NOT play there and I and cryptoninja11 are always ignored. They don't give a crap about being called out.

Also, they seem to change their domain from CryptoPokerClub.io (Crypto Poker Club SCAM) to CryptoPokerGroup.com (Crypto Poker Group SCAM).


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April 24, 2020, 10:29:33 AM
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Hey @LastcallS, please change the thread title to "Crypto poker club/Crypto Poker Group scam".

These scammers changed domain, so it's better to change it for seo purposes and people to see the new changed name/domain.

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When all this is over and they are proven scammers, I believe I deserve some recognition for calling this as early as I did. I also would like to have my signature restored.
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The possible hack does not have to come from your computer, though no matter how much you seem to be going on safety websites, you can't be 100% sure. justification for being hacked is becoming more and more common by fraudsters.
Can you share here all your conversation with his support about this problem? Also, it will be fine if we can hear the explanation from CryptoPokerClub

edit: I support your flag which can be revised if evidence something else.


I understand what you mean. Crypto Poker Club support explanation was basically that my computer was compromised by virus or malware.
However I was playing in many poker sites at the same time and no other accounts were "hacked".There is few facts that make it obvious they took the funds:
1)In case of forgotten password they just sent you the new one. No one does that!!! This is means that they can change the password at any time and log in(it explain why i was't able to log in with my original password)
2)The withdraw was approved for 9 min even thought someone log in from different IP address from Germany. And here I need to mention that I live in Canada and never played from other location since I create the account on September 2018. Here you have to consider the large amount of cash out 4btc - usually sites take extra time for such a large number.

On top of that If it was a real hacker he would leave me with 0. They just wanted to lured me in to keep earning them rake  by leaving(0.6btc)  and refunding (1.17btc) on the site.

In the beginning I was thinking that someone from their team took the funds. Clearly I wasn't aware of their previous scams and bad history or I would never play there.

"This way the poker account can be compromised and one of you employees can have access to the new password" - my statement

Here is CPC explanation about the password:

Your account did not request a new password before being logged into therefore how would a staff member know what the password was? Even with full admin access all passwords are encrypted and the database would not be readable like that.

Also it won't be possible for someone to log into your account without it showing up in your login history therefore it would be obvious that a staff member did so.

Lastly the forgot password feature was not used in your case and the new password was only sent after the account report was made by you.

This means that:
A member of staff would not be able to access your account without resetting your password which would then be visible to all that someone did that
A member of staff can't simply access the database and retrieve it due to encryption
Logs and server activity cannot be overridden or turned off due to architecture built into the servers which is outside the visibility/control of the support staff
Even if logs and server activity could somehow be manipulated (which it cannot); you would need full server level root access which staff members do not have for security reasons far greater than simply account institution. The server admins do not have access to the platform's general control panel and cannot see players accounts meanwhile the platform's moderators have access to accounts (like an admin portal) but do not have root access to the servers (the mechanism of which controls the totality of the platform).
To help you understand how the management process works we have two groups of admin staff. The day to day 'moderation team' and the 'server technology team'.

The moderation team handles daily management tasks, setting up games/tables, handling of general account queries and managing support. They have a special admin portal which they can execute all tasks as needed. Only specific and certain tasks can be done through the portal.

The server team handles server uptime, works on updates & fixes as well as works on new features. They strictly do not have any method of accessing what the moderation team can see and they do not need it. A staging server is created from their end replicating the entire platform without real funds or players. This way updates and fixes can be achieved with testing before new updates are pushed live. It also helps recreate problems that the live server may have without impacting live games.

A similar principle is applied for our card shuffling (RNG) mechanisms making it tamper proof which can be read in our whitepaper that was released in 2018. Again in the RNG model - the staff do not have access to the RNG units and due to the architecture built - no staff member can know which cards are going to be generated next (even with full admin rights). Our platforms are built in a decentralized methodology from the top-down.

This is also why we utilize offline segregation in cold storage for all funds preventing any future hacks to our systems. It is for this very reason that we can't offer instant withdrawals and we have withdrawal time slots once per day where all withdrawal requests are processed.

As we said before - security is our number one priority. Everything from servers, game applications, internal processes and many features like card shuffling are built with security in mind.

It is not possible for this intrusion to have occured internally. We have only ever had two cases whereby users claimed an account is compromised. You would be the second and the first user later discovered malware caused his leak.



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April 24, 2020, 01:34:06 PM
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Hey @LastcallS, please change the thread title to "Crypto poker club/Crypto Poker Group scam".

These scammers changed domain, so it's better to change it for seo purposes and people to see the new changed name/domain.


Thanks. Done!
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Also, guys, cpc/cpg are all scammers. They say they own their own software and have technicians working qround the clock and i call bs on that. You know why?

Well, a few montes ago, someone confided me that these scammers were running their code from runyourownpokersite.com, a renting poker software that you pay monthly and you can run your own poker site.

Now, i dont think that platform is scam, but cpc are scammers and liars by telling everyone that they have their own software and they fix everything, that part is BS.

You can compare cpc/cpg graphics to the runyourownpokersite.com and you will see they are very similar and thats because they are running their poker software.

With this, you will see that what they lie by telling the software is from them and that they have "different teams."

If thats not enough proof that these scammers are liars and pondscum, i dont know what is.

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Also, guys, cpc/cpg are all scammers. They say they own their own software and have technicians working qround the clock and i call bs on that. You know why?

Well, a few montes ago, someone confided me that these scammers were running their code from runyourownpokersite.com, a renting poker software that you pay monthly and you can run your own poker site.

Now, i dont think that platform is scam, but cpc are scammers and liars by telling everyone that they have their own software and they fix everything, that part is BS.

You can compare cpc/cpg graphics to the runyourownpokersite.com and you will see they are very similar and thats because they are running their poker software.

With this, you will see that what they lie by telling the software is from them and that they have "different teams."

If thats not enough proof that these scammers are liars and pondscum, i dont know what is.

Both can be true. Even though that is not open source software it is probably not hard to hack it, modify it and run a version of it that you now control. I played poker as a professional for 10 years and there is no doubt in my mind they are able to rig the games. Although, perhaps they stopped that, or at least stopped being so obvious about it because I called them out on it.
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On top of all they have house bots on 6max 24/7 running games with 4 or 5 people waiting for a customer to take his money probably they share cards and stuff like this. If a good player shows up and win they just scam him the other way(blaming a player that he use some kind of software or bot or just make it look like someone  "hacked" his account)Its just disgusting. All this stories can be seen on here:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.msg37971001#msg37971001           24 pages of scammed people

Not to mention that they promote their rake race and promotions so hard and I am pretty sure most of the prizes are won from house players!!!
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April 29, 2020, 08:05:21 AM
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https://www.hybrid-analysis.com/sample/b6d6af6e588eca6422cf4829cf2f4bacf324ecdf7830930296e4a7408c338a97/5ea84d3482fbad203e55fc2a


Good luck downloading their software. LMAO

These scumbags will rob you then hack you then cheat you on other sites. Wonder how much they have stolen

I have to share this post here as well. Take a look at all the BS their installer has. You would need to be crazy to install that.

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April 29, 2020, 08:27:13 AM
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Last week i made a short visit to their ANN on gambling section but due to lack of i time was unable to visit their website. Someone have already mentioned on pervious replie  that they are using new domain now. Personally Feeling really bad after hearing the story from your side. All their activities is just like other serial scammers. After stealing peoples money through fake ICO, Ponzi, Hyip and casinos now they are targeting poker.

Flag supported and wish others gonna do same from their end. Please put the flag link on your main topic. I will suggest you to update your thread by following the proper scam format. You will easily find all guidelines on this sections pin post area.  


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April 30, 2020, 01:12:18 PM
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Last week i made a short visit to their ANN on gambling section but due to lack of i time was unable to visit their website. Someone have already mentioned on pervious replie  that they are using new domain now. Personally Feeling really bad after hearing the story from your side. All their activities is just like other serial scammers. After stealing peoples money through fake ICO, Ponzi, Hyip and casinos now they are targeting poker.

Flag supported and wish others gonna do same from their end. Please put the flag link on your main topic. I will suggest you to update your thread by following the proper scam format. You will easily find all guidelines on this sections pin post area.  


Yes. They are such a scam. I am trying to find out who stands behind CryptoPokerClub but no success so far.If anybody knows something let me know. There is no info on their site as well... Anyway my point of making that thread is to avoid more people getting scam!!! I hope it gets very popular and more people find out about CryptoPokerclub.

I did update the thread. However I don't know how to add flag link.
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April 30, 2020, 06:13:18 PM
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Last week i made a short visit to their ANN on gambling section but due to lack of i time was unable to visit their website. Someone have already mentioned on pervious replie  that they are using new domain now. Personally Feeling really bad after hearing the story from your side. All their activities is just like other serial scammers. After stealing peoples money through fake ICO, Ponzi, Hyip and casinos now they are targeting poker.

Flag supported and wish others gonna do same from their end. Please put the flag link on your main topic. I will suggest you to update your thread by following the proper scam format. You will easily find all guidelines on this sections pin post area. 


Yes. They are such a scam. I am trying to find out who stands behind CryptoPokerClub but no success so far.If anybody knows something let me know. There is no info on their site as well... Anyway my point of making that thread is to avoid more people getting scam!!! I hope it gets very popular and more people find out about CryptoPokerclub.

I did update the thread. However I don't know how to add flag link.

I think you have to support the flag as there's already a flag in place.

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May 01, 2020, 11:11:17 AM
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I hope this poker room stops scamming people Sad

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