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May 08, 2020, 12:52:58 AM
Last edit: May 08, 2020, 02:43:42 PM by BADecker
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i gave the idiot above links to the genome sequences done by multiple labs in multiple countries which showed that through their individual processes they found the same results. {1}

the results were from individual patients which had the same symptoms so having the same genome results shows they narrowed it down to being the same pathogen cause.

they also done studies on rodents by infecting a healthy rodent with a pathogen and when it too got sick they knew they had the pathogen narrowed down{2}
there is actual viral microscope images of covid showing it as a ball shape with spikes. which shows its nothing like an ebola virus which looks like knotted rope.

they have results that its similar to other corona virals like SARS and MERS meaning its the covid family. but not exact enough to actually be the near 2 decade of SARS strain
they realised it has never been discovered in humans before 2019 and so they called it covid19.

they know the genome{1}
they know what the virus looks like physically{2}
they know what protein enzymes it has
they have a list of symptomology that it causes
heck they even know how it invades the cells by using the ace2 receptor

but badecker will remain stuck in the past of january myths. and will just dismiss this answer like the other topics. and will just pretend it has not been answered by asking it again after a few days/in another topic. like the idiot he is

or instead badecker can try researching for once.
its called google. type in a search and you will find it.

Cute, fuzzy little picture - http://www.informatics.jax.org/mgihome/other/images/SARS-CoV-2Sm.png. Some colored cotton balls floating in the air above a vacuum cleaner air blast, and a little out of focus... with a dark background.

Anybody can make up numbers. But where in the reports is the process? You have a nice link there, with all kinds of words and numbers - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/genbank/sars-cov-2-seqs/ - but it doesn't have the Rivers' revision of Koch's Postulates in it anywhere. Or did I miss it?

Could you point it out, please? Nice evidence, but nowhere near the proof required. Or Does Dr. Andrew Kaufman agree with you?... https://www.bitchute.com/video/TXargSbVp7E/? Send him an email and ask.

Now don't get me wrong. Perhaps somebody has proof. But don't tell me that you can apply genome proof to all kinds of patients around the world in the short periods of time that they are saying that Covid is the culprit. Most of those patients had all kinds of other diseases and maladies. At absolute best, Covid only sped things up a little. But there is no way to prove it. Can't even tell for sure which patients even had a Coronavirus in them, much less determining that it was Covid that did them in.

Or do you know of a way?

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May 08, 2020, 02:46:07 PM
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It will never disappear. It should be like the flu - every year. We just need to wait for a vaccine.

Many common everyday little illnesses disappear when people turn their backs on them. Covid isn't any different than all those little diseases. The only thing keeping CV visible is the masks on the faces of people all over the place.

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May 08, 2020, 11:19:02 PM
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hopefully never i enjoy the pandemie, i hope it will wipe out large sections of the mad third world, especially middle east and africa needs to be punished for their stupidity.

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May 09, 2020, 12:33:08 AM
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Anybody can make up numbers. But where in the reports is the process? You have a nice link there, with all kinds of words and numbers - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/genbank/sars-cov-2-seqs/ - but it doesn't have the Rivers' revision of Koch's Postulates in it anywhere. Or did I miss it?

you might want to check the link. all the info is there
including the process
your ignorance does not prove there is no process your ignorance proves you want to deny there is a process

heck if you finally accept the process but then want to say it must be the equipment
EG if all roads were motorcycle lanes. youll never find a car..
again the link shows different equipment and also different methods of using the different equipment

heck if you accept different equipment but then want to say its the hospital/doctor. again the link shows different hospitals different labs different countries.

in short if there are 100 different ways to identify a tree. and you have 1000 people sampling a tree and they all match up.. .. then its a tree

oh and the NIH site also has lots of things like xrays and blood tests results and stuff from patient medical records

and before you troll on the next level that we are all in the matrix and nothing is real.. now you really would need to sort your head out

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May 09, 2020, 04:43:38 AM
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A lot of that is going to depend on what we as countries, as societies, do. If we do the testing of every single case, the rapid isolation of the cases, we should be able to keep cases down low. If you simply rely on the big shut down measures without finding every case, then every time you take the brakes off, it could come back in waves. But we probably haven’t optimized how we used that time. Now what we’ve done is, we’ve gained time again by putting in place these big shutdowns. All they do is they buy time, they don’t actually stop the virus, they suppress it, they slow it. What you want to do now is use that time well to get the testing in place, to get the systems in place, so that you can actually manage the individual level cases that are going to be fundamental to stopping this.
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May 09, 2020, 12:13:43 PM
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Anybody can make up numbers. But where in the reports is the process? You have a nice link there, with all kinds of words and numbers - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/genbank/sars-cov-2-seqs/ - but it doesn't have the Rivers' revision of Koch's Postulates in it anywhere. Or did I miss it?

you might want to check the link. all the info is there
including the process
your ignorance does not prove there is no process your ignorance proves you want to deny there is a process

heck if you finally accept the process but then want to say it must be the equipment
EG if all roads were motorcycle lanes. youll never find a car..
again the link shows different equipment and also different methods of using the different equipment

heck if you accept different equipment but then want to say its the hospital/doctor. again the link shows different hospitals different labs different countries.

in short if there are 100 different ways to identify a tree. and you have 1000 people sampling a tree and they all match up.. .. then its a tree

oh and the NIH site also has lots of things like xrays and blood tests results and stuff from patient medical records

and before you troll on the next level that we are all in the matrix and nothing is real.. now you really would need to sort your head out

Too much NIH info for you, right? That's why you can't even find a process like Rivers' revision of Koch's Postulates, right?

However, if you could find it, you still wouldn't be able to list the points, and point at the location, right?

Keep on blabbing. That way you will keep on getting paid.

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Covid isn't any different than all those little diseases.

Arguably different, cuz it seems to be resulted from the man-made virus designed to affect the human body in the most effective way. No one  is  aware what he has in his arsenal.

TLDR

the Wuhan coronavirus is a bioweapon made using ZC45/ZXC21 as a template.

AS you said, "it seems." But we don't know, because Dr. Brix (Trump's team), the CDC, and others all over the world tell us that it is Covid, and that even if it isn't, to say it is Covid. This means that nobody knows who had what. Because of this, some charts show Covid going up while everything else is going down. We're being played.

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May 09, 2020, 01:42:55 PM
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It will never disappear. It should be like the flu - every year. We just need to wait for a vaccine.

Why are you speaking the words of "White House" and "WHO". They don't want the virus to disappear so that they can keep creating panic in the world and want people / countries to destory so that world can be controlled by "New World Order".

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May 09, 2020, 05:57:28 PM
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AS you said, "it seems." But we don't know, because Dr. Brix (Trump's team), the CDC, and others all over the world tell us that it is Covid, and that even if it isn't, to say it is Covid. This means that nobody knows who had what. Because of this, some charts show Covid going up while everything else is going down. We're being played.

charts of 'other' are not going down.
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CDCreports of deaths when they do their double checks show that the numbers increased
on average the death of all causes is ~57k a week. but it got progressively much more each week while infections of covid started.

normal influenza death were only 400. so its not like that number can impact the thousands. so something new is killing people recently

anyway. i know your just going to bait and switch arguments back to koch. so ill save you time
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.07.939389v3.full
theres just one of many koch proof that what they test for is the virus because when they put it into other animals. they get sick too
they examine it using many different methods. so you cant say its a fault method. again for the many times.
when there are soo many independant tests using different patients in different hospitals and different labs with different equipment and different methods. all coming to the same results.  it passes koch postulum

try using google but without limiting it to your freeman site. and you will get better results

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AS you said, "it seems." But we don't know, because Dr. Brix (Trump's team), the CDC, and others all over the world tell us that it is Covid, and that even if it isn't, to say it is Covid. This means that nobody knows who had what. Because of this, some charts show Covid going up while everything else is going down. We're being played.

charts of 'other' are not going down.
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CDCreports of deaths when they do their double checks show that the numbers increased
on average the death of all causes is ~57k a week. but it got progressively much more each week while infections of covid started.

normal influenza death were only 400. so its not like that number can impact the thousands. so something new is killing people recently

anyway. i know your just going to bait and switch arguments back to koch. so ill save you time
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.07.939389v3.full
theres just one of many koch proof that what they test for is the virus because when they put it into other animals. they get sick too
they examine it using many different methods. so you cant say its a fault method. again for the many times.
when there are soo many independant tests using different patients in different hospitals and different labs with different equipment and different methods. all coming to the same results.  it passes koch postulum

try using google but without limiting it to your freeman site. and you will get better results

If you would look at the credible sites in your searches, you might find out what is REALLY going on.

Vitamin C, vitamin D3, iodine, and zinc in massive quantities protects everyone from all of it, not only the few cases of Covid that might be around.

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Yeah, it doesn't matter when because the whole virus doesn't matter at all. Some medics finally decided to do some research on the deceased (previously they were not allowed because the authorities thought that examination will spread the virus so the general rule was to burn the bodies) and it appears that all examined victims had other health problems like heart disease, diabetes, asthma, and so on.
Personally, I don't know a single person who got sick with covid-19. None of my friends, co-workers, their families and friends, there's not a single case.The "pandemic" is a joke.

actually your just an idiot.
people dont just walk into a hospital and die at the entrance and then sent traight to the morgue
they actually have doctors who see the symptoms. test bodily fluids and do scans

there is actual evidence in existance and test results

but it seems too many ignorant losers just beleive faux media like info wars/hotwire and other fake stuff that have no clue

diabetes does not cause pneumonia alone. but having covid which causes pneumonia and then gets into your blood causes even worse issues for people with diabeties by causing kidney failure aswell as the pneumonia

people with heart issues wont cope well when having pneumonia because the hypoxia causes people peoples heart rate to work harder and a damaged heart cant cope

its not people having a random heart attack for no reason and it just classified as covid. its actually having covid and their other complications not helping them cope/recover

atleast try better at doing research because these stupid scripts you ignorant people are spouting have been debunked and yet you lot seem to remain ignorant to not even realise that

people in hospitals have actual medical records, symptom lists, test results and scan results.
its not some magic story of sudden unexplained death where they just scribble a random cause

Why so angry? Do you always react to skeptics this way? Take a chill pill.

They do take scans and it happens that the same people can be tested positive and negative for corona at the same time. There was a case in a nearby town where a kid had a brain tumotr and he felt sick and had fever so they diagnosed him with coronavirus. It took them an hour to get him to a hospital because "procedures". Then hthey took 2 samples from him and sent them to their local lab in the hospital and another one in a nearby epidemiology center. The first one came out negative and the second one positive. Of course he really did not have covid.
Scans are useless, just as face masks and washing hands. GB prime minister was washing hands a lot...

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Ventilators are killing people right and left. Or is it the medical who is applying the ventilators?

I expect that the medical is genuinely trying to help people. But their leaders are keeping most of them in the dark about what is really happening.

The hospitals are empty, because people understand this, and are fleeing for their lives.

Note that the article has a reasonable bibliography.


COVID: Breathing Ventilators, New York, Death Rate



JAMA Network, April 22, 2020, "Presenting Characteristics, Comorbidities, and Outcomes Among 5700 Patients Hospitalized With COVID-19 in the New York City Area":

"Mortality rates for those who received mechanical ventilation in the 18-to-65 and older-than-65 age groups were 76.4% and 97.2%, respectively. Mortality rates for those in the 18-to-65 and older-than-65 age groups who did not receive mechanical ventilation were 19.8% and 26.6%, respectively."

Well, of course, the people who were put on ventilators were the most ill patients to begin with, right? Perhaps. We don't know that.

In any case, the numbers are shocking.

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From Medscape, there is more: “Life-threatening breathing difficulties can occur in patients who use gabapentin or pregabalin with opioids or other drugs that depress the central nervous system, as well as those with underlying respiratory impairment and the elderly, the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) warned in a drug safety communication issued today.”

2018 estimate of deaths from opioid overdoses in New York: 3000. Many more people in the New York area are addicted to these drugs. In New York State, in 2017, the number of people discharged from hospitals, after treatment for opioid overdose or dependency: 25,000.

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People I trust predict an epidemic of up to 3 years. However, this may be flare-ups. Many say that in the summer the epidemic will almost go away, but then will return again in the fall.
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People I trust predict an epidemic of up to 3 years. However, this may be flare-ups. Many say that in the summer the epidemic will almost go away, but then will return again in the fall.
what you say has indeed been reported in a number of media around the world, but it cannot be an exact basis. because in tropical countries this pandemic remains a threat and many are infected, so what is predicted cannot be a reference. This pandemic will be able to end if the drug has been found if only "lockdown" will only break the chain of transmission, but the pandemic is still there and can develop again. there are no other words that drugs and vaccines must be found immediately to overcome this pandemic.
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People I trust predict an epidemic of up to 3 years. However, this may be flare-ups. Many say that in the summer the epidemic will almost go away, but then will return again in the fall.

Keep on trusting them. Then make sure that they themselves aren't causing the flare-ups, or that they aren't mouth-pieces for those who are causing the flare-ups. Do your own research, and compare it with theirs.

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May 11, 2020, 04:13:23 PM
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if a vaccine from this virus exists then it must have been discovered since sars first became epidemic in 2003 (thousands of genius scientists have worked very hard).  learned from the first sars case (in 2003) then mers (middle east sars) virus just disappeared..  I believe that what can save us from this "pandemic" is a miracle, let those who believe in God continue to pray because "prayer changes everything", it may not change immediately but it will definitely change..

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When will covid-19 disappear? When we take a stand against the lockdowns and shutdowns of our rights and freedoms.

There are three ways we can do this:
1. Get physical (which it looks like Michigan is doing);
2. Take people to court, who hinder us from doing things we have the right to do;
3. Comply involuntarily, and send them a bill/invoice... for, say, $250,000 an instance... or more;
3a. And then sue them for intentional non-payment to the tune of $10 million or more.


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Michigan militia members are taking a stand against Democratic Governor Gretchen Whitmer, saying that they won't let police arrest 77-year-old Karl Manke, who defied her COVID-19 shutdown order last week when he opened his Owosso barbershop.

"We are here to make sure he doesn't get arrested," Daniel Brewer told WEYI-TV. "We're willing to stand in front of that door and block the entrance so the police will have no entry there today."

The barbershop has been open since last Monday, and it was absolutely packed with customers on the first morning after the reopening. On Saturday, dozens of supporters gathered outside the barbershop while fifteen waited in line inside to get haircuts.


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Coronavirus: COVID-19 How long will the global epidemic take?

The world is closed. The places that are crowded  with people walking now look haunted. Restrictions on daily movement, School closure, travel bands, restrictions on public gatherings-all these have created this situation.

The way the whole world has responded to prevent a disease is unprecedented.

But where is the end of it?? When will people be able to return to their normal daily life?

The prime minister of the United Kingdom Boris Johnson has said that Britain will be able to "turn the tide" of the coronavirus in 12 weeks. A total of one and a half weeks have passed so far.

The number of infections will decrease within three months, but coronavirus infections has a long way to go.

It may take up to a few years.

It is clear that the way bid cities are being shut down and rules are being imposed on people’s daily movements is not possible in the long run. If everything is closed like this, the social and economic impact will be severe.

Countries need to find a strategy to get out of this situation. We have to find a way to get back to normal life by lifting the restrictions.

It is true that the imposition of restrictions has made it possible to prevent the spread of coronavirus. If these restrictions are lifted, the number of infections will increase a lot.

There’s a big problem with what the strategy is for getting out of here and how we get out of there," said mark woolhouse, a Professor of infectious disease at the university of Edinburgh.

He said no country in the world has a strategy on the issue.

Fixing this strategy is a big Scientific and social challenge.

There are three ways to do this.

1. Vaccinated
2.Many people become infected as a result of the virus.
3.Or to bring about a permanent change in the behavior of people and society.

It will take 12 to 18 months for the vaccine to arrive. If they received this vaccine, they will not get sick from exposure to the coronavirus. The more people that can be vaccinated the better, if 80 percent of the population were vaccinated, the virus would not spread.

Coronavirus has already been tested experimentally in the United States. When a vaccine is discovered, it is first tested on an animal. In this case, special approval has been applied to the people first.

Work is in full swing to discover a vaccine for coronavirus. But whether it will be successful or whether the vaccine will be given around the world. He is not sure.                            

                                                    
    

      
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May 13, 2020, 09:57:51 AM
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There are two kinds of Covid-19:
1. The actual virus;
2. Covid-19 panic talk.

The fastest way to get rid of Covid-19 is to express the simple truth about it. The simple truth is something that is easy to understand, yet is complete enough to get to the point.

The following chart from TECSHARE covers everything we need to know about the virus and how to get rid of it.


Get rid of the virus by recognizing that we are being lied to about its dangers - lied to by government, the medical, and the media - and then get rid of the fear in our minds.

We might go the next step of chastising our government, media, and medical people in court so that it doesn't happen again in the near future.

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The end of this pandemic depends on the development of vaccine for it. Even the richest of countries having a hard time treating the disease it will definitely take indefinitely long amount of time to create a vaccine for it. Even those pioneering in the development vaccine can only give hypotheses because they also not know when and which of their trials will to success. And also, What makes it hard to tell when will this ends is there are many factors that can affect and alter the progression of our situation.

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