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May 04, 2020, 11:42:38 PM
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doctors dont just write random things. they have samples, tests, scans which formulate to get a diagnoses
this is the 10th time now i have corrected your foolish belief that doctors just randomly choose a diagnosis

and if you studied the rna and done some research you would understand whats been done
scientists around the world took a sample of a virus and grew it under a culture and then put it into an animal and see if that animal became sick.
then testing that animal to see if it compares to the human samples
which shows the thing that made both humans and animals sick was that certain thing.
also having samples from thousands of humans with same symptomology double proves it and rules out any bad science, due to the decentralised nature of testing in different locations using different samples

again i have told you this a few times.
your ignorance does not work anymore. it just makes you look more like a time wasting idiot
your acting like trump. he too loves fake news. repeating nonsense. playing ignorant when proved wrong
pretending you didnt say what you obviously did say. not even understanding the things you say because they are not even original thoughts.

if you are really that bored. use your time to do research and learn something worthy of posting that includes actually fact checked info that isnt just old myths from months ago
(try to be original for once)

How do YOU know that doctors don't just write random things? I agree with you that they don't, but the point is, HOW do you know it? I mean, if you knew the way that you know it, you might actually figure out that you haven't listed any proof for Covid, yet.

If somebody became sick, and a doctor took samples of that sick person, how do you know that they found the correct virus that is making the sick person sick? A doctor has the ability to say anything. But if he is an honest doctor, he will be showing us the complete process he used to determine which virus it is, and why?

But you, even though you claim to be on the inside, haven't been able to show anything about the process... or even which process it is! What you are doing by continuing in this vein is, you are showing us that there isn't any proof for Covid. After all, the doctors involved might have discovered the polio virus in the sick people, and only SAID that it was Covid.

Not that the doctors are trying to be dishonest. But what if their process discovered Polio, and they honestly thought they had discovered Covid. Aren't we allowed to see their process? And if not, why not? Do we just have to trust that you know what you are talking about, lol. Cheesy

Check out Dr Andrew Kaufman exposing the 'Covid-19' magic trick - the sleight of hand that transformed society - https://www.bitchute.com/video/TXargSbVp7E/. He is showing you just exactly the same things that you are saying. You are indicating that you can't find the process. And Dr. Kaufman is showing you why.

But you ARE fun to play with.

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May 05, 2020, 06:48:38 AM
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for the 11th time. you idiot
the process is well known

the rna sequence is well known
it does not match polio or

ok you want to go into the real basics
1. patient has a certain list of symptoms
EG normal flu is a wet(mucus) cough, runny nose and so on
covid is dry cough, fever and so on

so they know symptomology wise its not a normal flu
so they know symptomology and also scans and tsts its not ebola, tuberculosis, polio or other stuff
(real simple.. not the same symptoms)

next they swab the patients with this certain list of symptoms. from different locations, different countries and find the virus and then get the rna of the virus.
they compare the rna  with patients with those certain symptoms and the match

they compare it to other lists of rna from other different corona's like sars and mers. and its not a entire match but know its a close enough match to be part of the same family

they also compare it to other viruses. like polio and ebola. and its nothing like those

yep they know its not polio or ebola because the symptomology and the rna are nothing alike
then they culture the virus and grow it into enough to inject into an animal. and then they see that animal get sick.
they then test the animal and see that the rna of the virus in the animal that has the same sickness also has the same rna

..
then they call it covid19 because they know its not sars or mers. but they know its part of the corona family of virus but not the same. and also not seen in humans before. meaning its new.

this is basic stuff even you. stuck in scripts from january must know
so now its time you just give up on this script. you been debunked enough
you have been given links to the rna sequence. even you could compare them and realise it.
your ignorance to not do it does not mean no proof. just means ur an idiot.

now lets get back to the topic because you have been fully debunked

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May 05, 2020, 07:48:14 AM
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for the 11th time. you idiot
the process is well known

the rna sequence is well known
it does not match polio or

ok you want to go into the real basics
1. patient has a certain list of symptoms
EG normal flu is a wet(mucus) cough, runny nose and so on
covid is dry cough, fever and so on

so they know symptomology wise its not a normal flu
so they know symptomology and also scans and tsts its not ebola, tuberculosis, polio or other stuff
(real simple.. not the same symptoms)

next they swab the patients with this certain list of symptoms. from different locations, different countries and find the virus and then get the rna of the virus.
they compare the rna  with patients with those certain symptoms and the match

they compare it to other lists of rna from other different corona's like sars and mers. and its not a entire match but know its a close enough match to be part of the same family

they also compare it to other viruses. like polio and ebola. and its nothing like those

yep they know its not polio or ebola because the symptomology and the rna are nothing alike
then they culture the virus and grow it into enough to inject into an animal. and then they see that animal get sick.
they then test the animal and see that the rna of the virus in the animal that has the same sickness also has the same rna

..
then they call it covid19 because they know its not sars or mers. but they know its part of the corona family of virus but not the same. and also not seen in humans before. meaning its new.

this is basic stuff even you. stuck in scripts from january must know
so now its time you just give up on this script. you been debunked enough
you have been given links to the rna sequence. even you could compare them and realise it.
your ignorance to not do it does not mean no proof. just means ur an idiot.

now lets get back to the topic because you have been fully debunked

Outside of the fact that symptoms often overlap in various diseases, you are leaving out the most important parts.

Check the highlighted area for the place you are leaving the parts out.

How does anybody know what virus they are getting from the swab (if any), without knowing the processes they use right at the highlighted part?

The processes that you don't show at the highlighted part should include Rivers' revision of Koch's Postulates. Or, it should be some other process that is similar. But you don't even show it. However, Dr. Andrew Kaufman shows what it should be like at https://www.bitchute.com/video/TXargSbVp7E/. You don't show it at all!

Since you don't even seem to understand that the most important part of the information is missing in all your blabber, your blabber isn't even blabber. Rather, it's simply slobber.

So, wake up and find us the part that is missing, or admit that we don't even know that there is a virus worth thinking of having a pandemic about.


It's like the car engine that doesn't work.
1. The engine doesn't run.
2. The mechanic checks out the engine.
3. The mechanic tells us what is wrong with the engine.
4. The mechanic fixes the engine.

Guess what's missing?
Between #2 and #3... the things the mechanic did to figure out what is wrong with the engine.
In #4... the things that the mechanic did to fix the engine.

We don't need details like, "The mechanic used his right hand to take hold of the 9/16 inch wrench. The mechanic moved the wrench over the manifold. Then he lowered the wrench onto bolt 'C' and moved the wrench in such a way that bolt 'C' turned counterclockwise. He then turned bolt 'C' the eleven turns necessary to remove it."

But we do need the details like:
The mechanic removed the air filter, then the carburetor, then the intake manifold. Once he did this, he could see that there was a frog stuck in one of the intake valves. He used a forceps to remove the frog. Then the engine ran fine.


In Rivers' revision of Koch's, there are 6 steps listed. We need to know how well those steps were followed, and if they were followed at all. If they weren't followed, what steps were followed? Simply saying that they swabbed patients and found viruses isn't enough. What did they do to find the viruses? Did they stick the swab on the light bulb? Did they toss it into the air 7 times? Did they stick it into their smock pocket? Is this how they found that the swab contained any viruses?

I don't mean to talk silly. I simply want you to show us the steps they used to determine a virus existed. Rivers' revision of Koch's is one good way to make sure they did the right steps.


Nobody wants you to do something you can't do. If you don't know what the steps were, simply tell us. If the steps aren't listed in the NIH links you gave us, tell us. But with your research experience, you should be able to tell us the steps, but at least show us where they are listed in the NIH reports if they are there.

Your real name doesn't happen to be George McFly, does it? Because you are turning yourself into our density.

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May 05, 2020, 01:29:08 PM
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In fact, if COVID-19 is during this way it'll be very difficult for people to survive nobody can take the proper steps to cure this virus. The doctors can't do anything it's not getting to be controlled in the least by following the principles of the govt by adopting the proper method. subsequent step might be more frightening there's no answer now Coaches can help tons to require the proper steps.

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May 05, 2020, 02:09:46 PM
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LOL Please .. its not even worth a real reply.. stay in the mining section because politics and current affairs is out of your league.

A vaccine doesn't help anyone.. the entire world would have to take it at the same time, and then what if they do and there is covid 20 next year, don't you see this is what the want you to do.

Call me crazy but when all facts are analyzed, and I mean analyzed and back tested, there is still 0 << YES ZERO evidence of CV 19 existing.




"How long will this take?", We know that the covid-19 virus, by its constitution, does not tolerate warmer weather and should start to disappear with warmer weather.



There are countries with warm weather, but the infection is also high, so I don't think warm weather is going to help, the world will focus in the vaccine and only a vaccine can help us make this virus disappear,there is no short cut for this, even the lock down cannot help us, it only slow down the infection but it's still ongoing.



I am not saying that vaccine is going to help us when the new virus is going to come (and we can't know that), I am saying that it will help us with this current virus (COVID-19) because nothing else is actually going to help right now if virus is not going to stop spreading because there is no cure.

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May 05, 2020, 02:22:06 PM
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Again, there are two circumstances wherein Covid-19 will disappear:
1. If the people wake up to see that it is faked by the leaders of the medical;
2. When the medical has something new fake thing for people to focus on.

That's it! Covid-19 is a lie and a scam for the medical to use to make money.

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Do you know that you are not exactly informed?
already, millions of people around the world have died and are still dying (including medical staff) according to your theory, for no reason. They could be informed about all sick and dead people (especially the number of these people) who have their families and loved ones. And now you are saying that all this is a lie and that these people died for no reason.

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May 05, 2020, 02:24:14 PM
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The question "when will quarantine and self-isolation end"? whole world wonders.
In some countries, they are already loosening up some measures, and in some countries they still need to be strictly adhered to.
The situation, of course, is not easy anywhere, but by loosening the measures we do not know whether the number of infected will start to rise again or continue to decline.
Most measures have yielded results, some countries have introduced stringent measures at the outset, with fewer infected, while some countries have recently introduced and have people with health and financial problems.
"How long will this take?", We know that the covid-19 virus, by its constitution, does not tolerate warmer weather and should start to disappear with warmer weather.
It is also assumed that there will be a new wave of viruses in the fall, but we do not know for sure.
We can only hope that these measures we currently have in place will begin to loosen, but for a long time we will feel far from each other for example going to schools and colleges, going out and the like.
For now, all we have to do is watch for the "wave" to pass as soon as possible.
In terms of finance, it will be a challenge for almost all the world's authorities.
We can hope that this summer will be all right and that we will all be able to somehow get our lives back to normal, but we know it will be a challenge.
Let's take a look at the positive side, animals can be free and plants develop.
It needed something to help the ozone layer and nature clean up, and I think this situation is just that it helped at least a little.
Let's be smart and keep the greatest treasure - our planet Earth.



Although there are some positive side to the Covid-19 but I also want to ask when this will stop properly?




No one knows it for now, but hopefully soon. Some states announce that everything should be normal by summer, but no one can be sure.
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May 05, 2020, 02:25:42 PM
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things like guidelines for swabs. even videos of doctors doing it. heck the process of the testing is all available ..
but an ignorant idiot has no clue how to research away from his 5 chosen links he prefers to frequent.
the process is public info
the fact that many hospitals around the world come to the same results show that its not just some single doctor doing something wrong.

but an idiot cant grasp that
..........


anyway going back to the topic
i just done a graph of UK 'new daily cases' since they had their first couple cases
the purple -*- at the start is pre-lockdown.
the orange -*-is the numbers during lockdown
the orange * is after May. and is just a prediction of a R0 of 0.8 continuing on as if lockdown stayed in place
then the grey is an example of the exponential growth of just an r0 of 1.1 yep only 1.1 if lockdown relaxed this week
then yellow * is if lockdown relaxed a month later (r0 of 1.1)
dark blue * is if lockdown relaxed the following month (r0 of 1.1)
then light blue * is if lockdown relaxed on the first week of septembers new acedemic year (r0 of 1.1)


as you can see relaxing now even with a low growth of 1.1 = just ~6 weeks until it hits 'the peak'
waiting a further month then relaxing allows for over 3 months before it hits 'the peak'
waiting until july then relaxing allows for ~ 5 months before hitting 'the peak'

which shows with no social distancing an r0 is 2.6+. (pre lockdown+ first two weeks of lockdown while its takes action)
but if you have some form of social distancing/tracing but without full isolation and manage to get only a growth of 1.1, its still too early to just relax things too much without it hitting a second wave peak quickly

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May 05, 2020, 02:35:38 PM
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Hi. I'm new in this forum. I think that this type of pandemic due to global warming will become more common. At least, the planet seems to appreciate our confinement.


Yes, that is the positive side of this pandemic and we should love our planet Earth.🌎l
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May 05, 2020, 02:39:38 PM
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When will covid-19 disappear?

As soon as somebody opens his/her eyes.     Cool



I would ask you not to leave such nonsensical comments as they are really unnecessary and have respect for other opinions.
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May 05, 2020, 02:44:03 PM
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Now that we see what Coronavirus is all about... What? You don't know? Watch the last 16 minutes. Then watch the whole thing... before Youtube takes it down.


CORONAVIRUS A NATION DIVIDED

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpfxvXjAnvk&t=110m



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The only thing you do is find some information that is obviously not true and post it here to prove something that is not true. Of course the media is full of false information, but as for the existence of covid - 19 it certainly exists because, as I stated before, a million people have already died from the disease and you are proving that it is not real. Everyone has their own opinion, and so you are not to disrespect your opinion, but I try to correct it.
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small correction for lucija .. its more like a quarter of a mill so far
but places like america are at over 60k excess deaths above normal
its not 60k deaths shifted from one category to another. its 60k EXCESS above the norm
USA usually has flu/pneumona deaths of 4k a week. but take the week of 4th april has 13k. because it still lists ~4k of normal flu/pneumonia. but also ~8k excess deaths of just covid(COVID TESTED)
the very fact that numbers from all causes/other causes still calulate the same. means its not a shift of death. and the new deaths ontop being covid confirmed

(u07.1 CDC confirmed=CDC main lab double checked (u0001))
(u07.1 CDC presumed=local/regional lab tested. cdc trust quality of these labs (u0002))

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May 05, 2020, 06:59:42 PM
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Now that we see what Coronavirus is all about... What? You don't know? Watch the last 16 minutes. Then watch the whole thing... before Youtube takes it down.


CORONAVIRUS A NATION DIVIDED

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpfxvXjAnvk&t=110m



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The only thing you do is find some information that is obviously not true and post it here to prove something that is not true. Of course the media is full of false information, but as for the existence of covid - 19 it certainly exists because, as I stated before, a million people have already died from the disease and you are proving that it is not real. Everyone has their own opinion, and so you are not to disrespect your opinion, but I try to correct it.

No disrespect meant, but where is your proof for Covid-19? Unless you have personally analyzed some body fluids from a sick person, how do you know that someone else is telling the truth? For example, franky1 is all over the idea that Covid exists in a dangerous way. But he can't even find the part of a report that shows the process steps a researcher went through to find out that something was Covid, and not simply the flu.

In other words, do you have even one piece of proof outside of trusting what others say? There may not be many of us who would like to see the proof. But some of us would. Please show us.

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May 05, 2020, 07:02:21 PM
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small correction for lucija .. its more like a quarter of a mill so far
but places like america are at over 60k excess deaths above normal
its not 60k deaths shifted from one category to another. its 60k EXCESS above the norm
USA usually has flu/pneumona deaths of 4k a week. but take the week of 4th april has 13k. because it still lists ~4k of normal flu/pneumonia. but also ~8k excess deaths of just covid(COVID TESTED)
the very fact that numbers from all causes/other causes still calulate the same. means its not a shift of death. and the new deaths ontop being covid confirmed

(u07.1 CDC confirmed=CDC main lab double checked (u0001))
(u07.1 CDC presumed=local/regional lab tested. cdc trust quality of these labs (u0002))

Except that the stats show that it is NOT 60k above normal. Rather it is barely above 60k total, which is barely above normal.

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My guess would be mid 2021  Embarrassed
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If you just want to read the news and relay the bad info go somewhere else. If you want to actually discuss some of the fraud and tricks and issues related to this then say what you mean, but relaying the news as fact is pointless. Every country that I followed in the western world has been lying. They don't even hide it, but its much deeper than that as the CV19 tests and testing and what they're even testing for is not even established properly. regardless even if there is a CV, the response has been a scam.




Again, there are two circumstances wherein Covid-19 will disappear:
1. If the people wake up to see that it is faked by the leaders of the medical;
2. When the medical has something new fake thing for people to focus on.

That's it! Covid-19 is a lie and a scam for the medical to use to make money.

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Do you know that you are not exactly informed?
already, millions of people around the world have died and are still dying (including medical staff) according to your theory, for no reason. They could be informed about all sick and dead people (especially the number of these people) who have their families and loved ones. And now you are saying that all this is a lie and that these people died for no reason.

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May 06, 2020, 03:46:38 PM
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My guess would be mid 2021  Embarrassed

nobody know that, we hope sooner better🤷‍♀️
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My guess would be mid 2021  Embarrassed
no one can be sure exactly when the covid corona pandemic will end. because what is clear is where it started to start, namely Wuhan in China alone, now it is being affected by the second pandemic. where the arrival of its citizens from other countries experiencing a pandemic brought with it the pandemic. many say that the pandemic will end when summer comes, but that is also just a prediction. which can be sure of course when drugs have been found and vaccines can also be made and can be given to those who are still healthy to break the chain of transmission. I hope all this can end soon and be handled well with the help of cooperation between countries to break the chain of transmission.
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There isn't any proof for Covid shown. I asked smarty pants franky1 a question at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5243738.msg54364745#msg54364745. I would like the answer, and until the answer comes into the open, we don't know even if there is a Covid-19.

Anybody who has inside knowledge, like a doctor...

Or anybody who has clear doctor info like I requested at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5243738.msg54364745#msg54364745 ...

Please come forward and do one or both of two things:
1. Prove that Covid-19 exists;
2. Prove that tests for it are real.

I'm not looking for all kinds of talk. I want facts and details.

The details don't have to be so great as to say, "Next, the doctor lifted his/her right arm 6 inches."

However, lets get reports that at least include the application of Rivers' revision of Koch's Postulates as shown by Dr. Andrew Kaufman at https://www.bitchute.com/video/TXargSbVp7E/.

If we don't get these things, how can we even guess if some doctor did what it takes to show that there is a Covid-19? Dr. Kaufman in the above video shows that the Chinese reports didn't include what it takes to prove anything. They did some lab work, wrote some reports that said that Covid existed, but the lab work doesn't conclusively show that Covid exists. In fact, the report shows that the lab work was useless for proving anything.

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i gave the idiot above links to the genome sequences done by multiple labs in multiple countries which showed that through their individual processes they found the same results. {1}

the results were from individual patients which had the same symptoms so having the same genome results shows they narrowed it down to being the same pathogen cause.

they also done studies on rodents by infecting a healthy rodent with a pathogen and when it too got sick they knew they had the pathogen narrowed down{2}
there is actual viral microscope images of covid showing it as a ball shape with spikes. which shows its nothing like an ebola virus which looks like knotted rope.

they have results that its similar to other corona virals like SARS and MERS meaning its the covid family. but not exact enough to actually be the near 2 decade of SARS strain
they realised it has never been discovered in humans before 2019 and so they called it covid19.

they know the genome{1}
they know what the virus looks like physically{2}
they know what protein enzymes it has
they have a list of symptomology that it causes
heck they even know how it invades the cells by using the ace2 receptor

but badecker will remain stuck in the past of january myths. and will just dismiss this answer like the other topics. and will just pretend it has not been answered by asking it again after a few days/in another topic. like the idiot he is

or instead badecker can try researching for once.
its called google. type in a search and you will find it.

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