Corona Cattle... Face Masks Are Dangerous.

[BADecker]

Coronavirus masks do not stop viruses.

Coronavirus masks keep bacteria in - on the mask. Then they add moisture to the bacteria on the inside of the mask. Then you get sick from the rampaging bacteria inside your mask you are wearing.


In Search of Corona Cattle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jdgg2sBVgkA&feature=emb_logo


Cattle in Revolt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsgRsmoGgWU


Check out Unmasked Contempt - https://www.ericpetersautos.com/2020/04/30/unmasked-contempt/.[/b]

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[Cnut237]

Coronavirus masks keep bacteria in - on the mask.

So you're saying we should all wear masks, because that way the people who are contagious won't spread the virus, because the mask stops them from infecting other people? 

[af_newbie]

Coronavirus masks do not stop viruses.

Coronavirus masks keep bacteria in - on the mask. Then they add moisture to the bacteria on the inside of the mask. Then you get sick from the rampaging bacteria inside your mask you are wearing.


In Search of Corona Cattle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jdgg2sBVgkA&feature=emb_logo


Cattle in Revolt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsgRsmoGgWU


Check out Unmasked Contempt - https://www.ericpetersautos.com/2020/04/30/unmasked-contempt/.[/b]

I think you are dangerous.

Face masks along with eye & hands protection are the best way to prevent this infection.

All your PPE equipment should be exposed to UV light when not in use.

Stay at home, wear PPE when you are in public.  

Limit physical contact with other smart apes outside of your household.

[Tash]

Inhaling half of the exhaled Carbon dioxide cannot be healthy for extended periods, period.
Carbon dioxide CO₂is a deathly colorless gas in large enogh dose.

Two ways to get sick of COVID-19 dis-ease:
A.  damage cells in the body
B.  injecting toxins with needle

Face/mouth muzzle does not help in either case.
Mosquito can also make you very ill for other dis-eases as it injects animal dna..

[Naida_BR]

Face masks are dangerous because people do not know how to use them.
The way the mask it is applied and touched make it very dangerous and will bring huge contamination to the population. People think that they are protected because they were the mask and they are going to spend less time washing their hands or keeping other hygiene standards.

[BADecker]

If you listen to any doctors who talk about the efficacy of standard face-masks for stopping viruses, they will tell you that viruses go right through. Standard hospital face-masks are for stopping bacteria. Store-bought face-masks are for stopping dust.

[Jet Cash]

It seems that the virus can only survive for about 5 minutes on the human hand, but it can survive for 2 or 3 days on rubber and hard surfaces. This means that wearing gloves prolongs the life of the virus, and increases the chances of you spreading it whilst you are wearing gloves.

I'm not a virologist, but those facts make sense to me, as the human body has lots of mechanisms to help us survive possible infections.

[LTU_btc]

Well, WHO still don't recommend to wear masks for healthy people:
https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/when-and-how-to-use-masks
Sometimes masks makes more harm than good. Many people reuse medical masks multiple times, they don't disinfect it, then masks becomes dangerous. I'm not even talking that many people don't wear it properly.
I understand that in some places like shops, public transport is needed, where there is many people and close contact. But I think that requirement to wear masks outside isn't needed. There is no close contact with other people and you can avoid it easy. I think this requirement should be optional.
And weather is getting more warm, what makes breathing with mask more difficult. So, I rather breathe clean weather. I noticed in my country thst probably half of people (including me ) don't wear mask properly. They just cover their beard or mouth. So, I think that these masks more protect from being fined by police, than from coronavirus.

[BADecker]

Coronavirus masks keep bacteria in - on the mask.

So you're saying we should all wear masks, because that way the people who are contagious won't spread the virus, because the mask stops them from infecting other people? 

I'm saying that the standard masks that people wear don't stop Covid. I'm also saying that they make people sick from multiplications of their own bacteria. If a person is sick form something, he just might be susceptible to Covid more easily. So, masks actually help to spread Covid a little.

[BADecker]

I think you are dangerous.

Face masks along with eye & hands protection are the best way to prevent this infection.

All your PPE equipment should be exposed to UV light when not in use.

Stay at home, wear PPE when you are in public.  

Limit physical contact with other smart apes outside of your household.

See the post above this one to understand why you are wrong.

However, if a complex gas-mask-like mask is worn properly, it could help.

[Carlton Banks]

If you listen to any doctors who talk about the efficacy of standard face-masks for stopping viruses, they will tell you that viruses go right through. Standard hospital face-masks are for stopping bacteria. Store-bought face-masks are for stopping dust.

I find myself horrified to agree (with you, @BADecker), but this is self evidently true

• Bacteria exist on the scale of micrometers, i.e. 1x10^-6 meters
• Viruses exist on the scale of nanometers, i.e. 1x10^-9 meters

a piece of cloth is no barrier to a fragment of RNA with adjoined proteins, such things are typically smaller than 100 nanometers in their longest dimension


if you still believe this nonsense, wake the fuck up, this whole virus panic is a farce

[Cnut237]

viruses go right through

a piece of cloth is no barrier to a fragment of RNA with adjoined proteins

Whilst this is true, there is an important distinction between the virus inside the mask getting out, and the virus outside the mask getting in. Reminds me of the problem of J Edgar Hoover.

If someone has the virus, and coughs up some infected mucus - which is a primary transmission mechanism - then the mask just needs to contain the droplet in order to stop nearby people from getting infected. The limiting factor is surely mucus droplet size rather than virus size, if the virus is inside the droplet? Apologies if I'm mistaken, but this is my understanding. Respiratory droplets are a much bigger factor than the smaller, 'airborne' droplets.

To quote the beleaguered WHO:

Modes of transmission of the COVID-19 virus
Respiratory infections can be transmitted through droplets of different sizes: when the droplet particles are >5-10 μm in diameter they are referred to as respiratory droplets, and when then are <5μm in diameter, they are referred to as droplet nuclei.1 According to current evidence, COVID-19 virus is primarily transmitted between people through respiratory droplets and contact routes

Of course there is the issue about the mask itself coming into contact with the virus and then acting as a contact transmission route. I'll agree this is a concern, but does it outweigh the protection a mask affords?

Can you honestly say that if someone with the virus is standing right in front of you and coughs, you are not bothered whether they cough into a mask or straight into your face? Also remember that quantity of exposure appears to be a factor in severity of symptoms. Even if a mask only stops 50% of the virus from spreading, that's a huge help.

Further (sorry, I'll shut up soon), I would argue that even if a mask has an overall zero effect, i.e. the quantity of virus is stops is balanced by the amount it spreads through becoming a contact source, then masks can still be a psychological help for the millions of people who have spend months in lockdown and are panicked about going out in public again.

[Tash]

Visiting a muzzle factory in Arizona, only workers wear them.
https://youtu.be/FfNFXJ2e4Ck
Looking at the wall, the floor, the worker clothes, no hair cup, shoes, jeans, tshirt, visitor can enter in without special clothes, sanitation, etc.
Maybe they used to make tractor parts  

Some poor sucker will now wear the face muzzle after he touched it with his hands.

[Oxstone]

That's the logical reasonning from someone who thinks vaccines are dangerous and useless.

Honestly not surprised.

[xen1oph]

The virus exists. I know people who have had this virus.
But the virus is not as dangerous as Bill Gates says when he tries to promote his vaccines and microchips as an electronic certificate.
The best defense against any viruses (including coronavirus) is to strengthen immunity. Including proper nutrition and a healthy lifestyle in general.

[Cnut237]

There is I think a common misconception about the measures governments are taking and the advice they're giving. Not saying anyone here is making this mistake, but we need to cover it for clarity.

The virus doesn't kill a huge percentage of the people it infects. This is a fact. It's a small percentage, low single digits at most, probably lower.
Face masks, other protective equipment, social distancing, etc are not perfect defences against the spread of the virus.

The virus can be stopped either through a vaccine or through a sufficient proportion of the population having been infected and carrying antibodies against it. That's it. Palliative medicines can potentially alleviate symptoms, but vaccine or natural herd immunity is the only way to stop it (ignoring for simplicity any future mutation of the virus).

So why the masks and the social distancing? The purpose with these measures is not to stop transmission, but to slow it down. The spread of a new virus through a population is a geometric progression. It's exponential. Small numbers become big numbers absurdly quickly. This is the crucial factor here. If face masks have some beneficial effect, if social distancing has some beneficial effect... then these approaches should be used.

It's all about management of the spread. Flattening the curve. Ensuring that the finite resources of health services are sufficient to deal with the number of infected patients. Ensuring that anyone who can be saved will be saved. That's it. Even if face masks are only 10% effective, that still means we should all wear them.

[BADecker]

viruses go right through

a piece of cloth is no barrier to a fragment of RNA with adjoined proteins

Whilst this is true, there is an important distinction between the virus inside the mask getting out, and the virus outside the mask getting in. Reminds me of the problem of J Edgar Hoover.

If someone has the virus, and coughs up some infected mucus - which is a primary transmission mechanism - then the mask just needs to contain the droplet in order to stop nearby people from getting infected. The limiting factor is surely mucus droplet size rather than virus size, if the virus is inside the droplet? Apologies if I'm mistaken, but this is my understanding. Respiratory droplets are a much bigger factor than the smaller, 'airborne' droplets.

To quote the beleaguered WHO:

Modes of transmission of the COVID-19 virus
Respiratory infections can be transmitted through droplets of different sizes: when the droplet particles are >5-10 μm in diameter they are referred to as respiratory droplets, and when then are <5μm in diameter, they are referred to as droplet nuclei.1 According to current evidence, COVID-19 virus is primarily transmitted between people through respiratory droplets and contact routes

Of course there is the issue about the mask itself coming into contact with the virus and then acting as a contact transmission route. I'll agree this is a concern, but does it outweigh the protection a mask affords?

Can you honestly say that if someone with the virus is standing right in front of you and coughs, you are not bothered whether they cough into a mask or straight into your face? Also remember that quantity of exposure appears to be a factor in severity of symptoms. Even if a mask only stops 50% of the virus from spreading, that's a huge help.

Further (sorry, I'll shut up soon), I would argue that even if a mask has an overall zero effect, i.e. the quantity of virus is stops is balanced by the amount it spreads through becoming a contact source, then masks can still be a psychological help for the millions of people who have spend months in lockdown and are panicked about going out in public again.

The facemask might provide psychological help for people, but does this kind of help stop actual physical diseases?

It has already been reported several times in this forum, that a virus in the air lasts only a short time. So, what if you have a virus in a respiratory droplet? Since it doesn't touch the air until further evaporation of the droplet, the virus might last in the air for a long time.

What about maintaining a virus "farm" in the masks? Are the masks being disposed of properly? What is properly? It's already been reported in this forum that viruses on materials can last dozens of times longer than they can in the air. Have we been instructed, or do we even know, proper mask usage and disposal procedures? At what point do the masks, themselves, become the danger?

Certainly a mask is better than a person coughing right into your face. But people have been taught over their whole lifetimes not to do this... even if it happens once in a while.

Perhaps we are at a standstill with the mask question. How can we know the effectiveness vs the dangers of masks in society? Are their society studies on these points... studies done by professional researchers?

Personally, I think that the dangers of masks worn beyond just a moment or two, outweigh the dangers of not wearing masks at all.

[BADecker]

That's the logical reasonning from someone who thinks vaccines are dangerous and useless.

Honestly not surprised.

That's the logical reasoning from someone who doesn't know what proof is. Since people don't have proof that vaccines are safe and effective, and since they are only trusting doctors who are trusting other doctors, and since there are tons of evidences that vaccines are dangerous, why don't we get the proof and not the hearsay?

However, it's a good thing when people find out that their supposed facts are really only part of their religion.

[yiruma]

Masks can help, but not much. When a person sneezes or coughs, less passes through a mask of aerosols than if a person would not wear a mask. Instead of a mask, you can simply sneeze or cough on the elbow or shoulder (perhaps it would even be better).

[BADecker]

The virus exists. I know people who have had this virus.
But the virus is not as dangerous as Bill Gates says when he tries to promote his vaccines and microchips as an electronic certificate.
The best defense against any viruses (including coronavirus) is to strengthen immunity. Including proper nutrition and a healthy lifestyle in general.

The question is, how do you know that it was the virus that those people had? The test kits come from China, who has been lying to us about their statistics all along. But if you say that you trust the W.H.O., they're in China, and heavily influenced by China.

Can we get an actual doctor/researcher who can show us the steps he went through to isolate the virus, and then the steps that he went through to determine that it absolutely was the virus in question.

We all have people who have died. Many of us have been told that our people have died from this virus. But many official statistics are showing us that something is being lied about... like the 99% in Italy, and the 94% in the USA. No proof then, and no proof yet.

[BADecker]

There is I think a common misconception about the measures governments are taking and the advice they're giving. Not saying anyone here is making this mistake, but we need to cover it for clarity.

The virus doesn't kill a huge percentage of the people it infects. This is a fact. It's a small percentage, low single digits at most, probably lower.
Face masks, other protective equipment, social distancing, etc are not perfect defences against the spread of the virus.

The virus can be stopped either through a vaccine or through a sufficient proportion of the population having been infected and carrying antibodies against it. That's it. Palliative medicines can potentially alleviate symptoms, but vaccine or natural herd immunity is the only way to stop it (ignoring for simplicity any future mutation of the virus).

So why the masks and the social distancing? The purpose with these measures is not to stop transmission, but to slow it down. The spread of a new virus through a population is a geometric progression. It's exponential. Small numbers become big numbers absurdly quickly. This is the crucial factor here. If face masks have some beneficial effect, if social distancing has some beneficial effect... then these approaches should be used.

It's all about management of the spread. Flattening the curve. Ensuring that the finite resources of health services are sufficient to deal with the number of infected patients. Ensuring that anyone who can be saved will be saved. That's it. Even if face masks are only 10% effective, that still means we should all wear them.

And this^^ is far too little. The proof for the virus is not too hard for us to understand. Why don't they show us the proof? So far, we don't even know for sure that the virus, itself, has any strength at all.

[BADecker]

Just stay home, bro
If we all together will seat for 2 weeks more, everything can be finished faster.

This looks like a nice idea on the outside. But when will we stay at home for too long, and the economy will fall apart? The new pandemic might wind up being no food.

Rather, let's get the REAL info about what we are dealing with, so we know what to do that will be effective. Don't we have it already? NO! There has been enough hidden stuff come out into the open that we can see that We The People don't really know anything at all about what is going on... except that some of us are dying.

[Cnut237]

Why don't they show us the proof? So far, we don't even know for sure that the virus, itself, has any strength at all.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/total-deaths-covid-19
https://github.com/owid/covid-19-data

But when will we stay at home for too long, and the economy will fall apart? The new pandemic might wind up being no food.

Agreed that there is a balancing act here. Food and medical supplies must be maintained. The consequences of severe economic damage can and will cause deaths; it is always the poor and vulnerable who are disproportionately affected in these situations.

Perhaps we are at a standstill with the mask question. How can we know the effectiveness vs the dangers of masks in society? Are their society studies on these points... studies done by professional researchers?

I've had discussions with you in numerous threads, and I almost always disagree with you. But I can't let this go without meriting it. Data is king. The place where we find truth is in pure, unadulterated facts, the full thing, and not (as is often the case) just some partial dataset that has been carefully selected in order to reinforce a predetermined message. Whilst CV19 is still in progress, so much of our understanding is based on projections from the current state... and projections of an exponential progression are by their nature prone to orders-of-magnitude inaccuracy.

[Subbir]

The easiest thanks to affecting the virus are to remain reception and stay safe Face masks are really so dangerous it can never keep us freed from viruses. Rather it's more likely to be dangerous if somebody else picks it up where we use it. Face masks aren't ready to completely control the spread of the virus from sneezing and coughing it might be better to remain reception following the lockdown with caution there's no vaccine for this virus so we've to believe God alone.

[madnessteat]

I get the impression that many of the measures against coronavirus are more directed at aggravating the situation.

An example from Russia:

As soon as the daily number of new infections in Russia exceeded 10,000, the government introduced a mandatory mask regime in public transport and shops, even though medical masks do not even belong to fpp2 or fpp3 protection class and are unable to provide the necessary protection.

[BADecker]

Why don't they show us the proof? So far, we don't even know for sure that the virus, itself, has any strength at all.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/total-deaths-covid-19
https://github.com/owid/covid-19-data

But when will we stay at home for too long, and the economy will fall apart? The new pandemic might wind up being no food.

Agreed that there is a balancing act here. Food and medical supplies must be maintained. The consequences of severe economic damage can and will cause deaths; it is always the poor and vulnerable who are disproportionately affected in these situations.

Perhaps we are at a standstill with the mask question. How can we know the effectiveness vs the dangers of masks in society? Are their society studies on these points... studies done by professional researchers?

I've had discussions with you in numerous threads, and I almost always disagree with you. But I can't let this go without meriting it. Data is king. The place where we find truth is in pure, unadulterated facts, the full thing, and not (as is often the case) just some partial dataset that has been carefully selected in order to reinforce a predetermined message. Whilst CV19 is still in progress, so much of our understanding is based on projections from the current state... and projections of an exponential progression are by their nature prone to orders-of-magnitude inaccuracy.

Data is king. But false data makes a king out of liars.

All the charts and data are based on other charts and data, that are based on still other charts and data. Where is the data coming from? Where is the proof that the data is accurate? There is a whole lot of evidence that the official data is highly inaccurate... inaccurate to the point of being outright lies.

Look what happens when somebody comes close to finding and telling the truth in ways that can for-a-fact be proven. Kinda smells fishy to high heaven.


Researcher On Cusp Of COVID-19 Breakthrough Killed In Bizarre Murder-Suicide

A University of Pittsburgh researcher working on a coronavirus project was fatally shot on Saturday at his home in Ross Township, while associate Hao Gu, 46, was found dead in a car approximately 100 yards away of what appeared to be a self-inflicted gunshot.

The researcher, 37-year-oild Bing Liu, was found shot multiple times in the head, neck and torso around Noon on Saturday. Nothing was stolen from the townhouse and there was no forced entry, according to the Post Gazette. He worked in the college's department of computational and systems biology at the Pitt School of Medicine.

"Bing was on the verge of making very significant findings toward understanding the cellular mechanisms that underlie SARS-CoV-2 infection and the cellular basis of the following complications," the department announced in a written statement, adding "We will make an effort to complete what he started in an effort to pay homage to his scientific excellence."

Liu's expertise was developing computational models, simulation and analysis techniques to study the dynamics of biological systems - in some cases using machine learning techniques to understand cellular processes, according to his bio.

He was described as an outstanding teacher and mentor.

"He was a very talented individual, extremely intelligent and hard-working," said the head of his department, Ivet Bahar. "He has been contributing to several scientific projects, publishing in high-profile journals. He was someone whom we all liked very much, a very gentle, very helpful, kind person, very generous."

"We are all shocked to learn what happened to him. This was very unexpected," she added.

[Naida_BR]

The virus exists. I know people who have had this virus.
But the virus is not as dangerous as Bill Gates says when he tries to promote his vaccines and microchips as an electronic certificate.
The best defense against any viruses (including coronavirus) is to strengthen immunity. Including proper nutrition and a healthy lifestyle in general.

Even if you are a fit guy, this doesn't mean that you will not get the virus.
It doesn't recognize if you were an athlete or you exercise a lot in the past. Nutrition is going to help to overcome the virus fast and don't have serious symptoms while being sick - but still this doesn't stop the outbreak.

[BADecker]

One of the best ways to protect against Coronavirus is to go to the beach. Why? Because the beach sand and the ocean have materials in them that cause your immune system to protect you against all the forms of CV.

[Carlton Banks]

Why don't they show us the proof? So far, we don't even know for sure that the virus, itself, has any strength at all.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/total-deaths-covid-19
https://github.com/owid/covid-19-data

ourworldindata.org is funded by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.

your "proof" is basically a black line on a pair of numbered axes, provided by a corrupt organization, and hence proof of precisely nothing.

[Tash]

The virus exists. I know people who have had this virus.
But the virus is not as dangerous as Bill Gates says when he tries to promote his vaccines and microchips as an electronic certificate.
The best defense against any viruses (including coronavirus) is to strengthen immunity. Including proper nutrition and a healthy lifestyle in general.

Even if you are a fit guy, this doesn't mean that you will not get the virus.
It doesn't recognize if you were an athlete or you exercise a lot in the past. Nutrition is going to help to overcome the virus fast and don't have serious symptoms while being sick - but still this doesn't stop the outbreak.

Two ways to get virus:
1. Inject (Needle, Mosquito..)
2. Damage Cells

Nutrition, yes alkaline food, fruit, berries, nuts and the occasional veggi
Get rid of mucoid build up in body, detox and lets not forget healthy dose of Vitamin D

Anyone looking for vaccine
https://calgarysun.com/cannabis/cannabis-shows-promise-blocking-coronavirus-infection-alberta-researcher/wcm/abc07065-588d-46d6-a4bd-edc85eea4b1b

[BADecker]

The real CV cattle are the cops. They think they are doing you a service by forcing you to obey the pandemic. But do you know what they are really doing? Breaking their oath of office to uphold the Constitution.

Remind them first. The get your attorney to see if they even took the required oath. Then sue them for all they have... and extra if they don't have their oath on file.


Police Officers Beginning to Speak Out Now!


Police Officers Beginning to Speak Out Now!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxYTL2jc1Sk

[johngrayson]

During all this time of this epidemic, I have never worn a mask. But I don’t go to crowded places at all. Therefore, I do not need a mask.

[BADecker]

A question is, what are the statistics about people wearing masks? How many have gotten sick and died anyway? Did anybody prove that the masks were effective?

Consider that all the people who died under medical supervision, died under the best that the medical knew it could do for them. Many of them wore masks, and died anyway.

Does the medical know that more would have died if they didn't wear masks? Are they sure? Does the medical even know what it is talking about?

[BADecker]

Time to fight for your freedoms in this fake Covid time. Some law enforcement people are standing up for your rights.


FIRED AFTER GIVING ANTI-TYRANT SPEECH, AFTER FIRST BEING CONGRATULATED BY HIS SUPERIORS?


FIRED AFTER GIVING ANTI-TYRANT SPEECH, AFTER FIRST BEING CONGRATULATED BY HIS SUPERIORS?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA-Zbz6V_k0


HOW TO CONTACT PORT OF SEATTLE POLICE https://www.portseattle.org/about/port-police.

[madnessteat]

~snip~

Cops like Greg Anderson deserve respect!

I want to believe that after such appeals the police and military will finally open their eyes and start to act on the side of the people. After all, they receive their salaries on our taxes and should protect our interests in the first place.

[BADecker]

~snip~

Cops like Greg Anderson deserve respect!

I want to believe that after such appeals the police and military will finally open their eyes and start to act on the side of the people. After all, they receive their salaries on our taxes and should protect our interests in the first place.

If they don't start doing it soon, this is what we are going to get...


Children's Emergency Quarantine Centers

The State of Washington is looking for employees to SUPERVISE CHILDREN in Emergency Quarantine Centers. US Congress passing a bill to test & diagnose for COVID-19 at individuals' residences and for other purposes

Children's Emergency Quarantine Centers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWQMx4HxWIw

[BADecker]

A fun debate on mask usefulness or not. Check the site for emphasis and some links that aren't shown here. And watch the video.


Masks Don't Work: A Review of science relevant to COVID-19 Social Policy

Masks and respirators do not work.

There have been extensive randomized controlled trial (RCT) studies, and meta-analysis reviews of RCT studies, which all show that masks and respirators do not work to prevent respiratory influenza-like illnesses, or respiratory illnesses believed to be transmitted by droplets and aerosol particles.

Furthermore, the relevant known physics and biology, which I review, are such that masks and respirators should not work. It would be a paradox if masks and respirators worked, given what we know about viral respiratory diseases: The main transmission path is long-residence-time aerosol particles (< 2.5 μm), which are too fine to be blocked, and the minimum-infective dose is smaller than one aerosol particle.

The present paper about masks illustrates the degree to which governments, the mainstream media, and institutional propagandists can decide to operate in a science vacuum, or select only incomplete science that serves their interests. Such recklessness is also certainly the case with the current global lockdown of over 1 billion people, an unprecedented experiment in medical and political history.

(FULL) Digi-Debates. The Face Mask Debate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=AQyLFdoeUNk&feature=emb_logo

Review of the Medical Literature
Here are key anchor points to the extensive scientific literature that establishes that wearing surgical masks and respirators (e.g., "N95") does not reduce the risk of contracting a verified illness:

Jacobs, J. L. et al. (2009) "Use of surgical face masks to reduce the incidence of the common cold among health care workers in Japan: A randomized controlled trial," American Journal of Infection Control, Volume 37, Issue 5, 417 – 419. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19216002

N95-masked health-care workers (HCW) were significantly more likely to experience headaches. Face mask use in HCW was not demonstrated to provide benefit in terms of cold symptoms or getting colds.

Cowling, B. et al. (2010) "Face masks to prevent transmission of influenza virus: A systematic review," Epidemiology and Infection, 138(4), 449-456. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/epidemiology-and-infection/article/face-masks-to-prevent-transmission-of-influenza-virus-a-systematic- review/64D368496EBDE0AFCC6639CCC9D8BC05

None of the studies reviewed showed a benefit from wearing a mask, in either HCW or community members in households (H). See summary Tables 1 and 2 therein.

bin-Reza et al. (2012) "The use of masks and respirators to prevent transmission of influenza: a systematic review of the scientific evidence," Influenza and Other Respiratory Viruses 6(4), 257–267. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/j.1750-2659.2011.00307.x

"There were 17 eligible studies. … None of the studies established a conclusive relationship between mask/respirator use and protection against influenza infection."

Smith, J.D. et al. (2016) "Effectiveness of N95 respirators versus surgical masks in protecting health care workers from acute respiratory infection: a systematic review and meta-analysis," CMAJ Mar 2016 https://www.cmaj.ca/content/188/8/567

"We identified six clinical studies … . In the meta-analysis of the clinical studies, we found no significant difference between N95 respirators and surgical masks in associated risk of (a) laboratory-confirmed respiratory infection, (b) influenza-like illness, or (c) reported work-place absenteeism."

Offeddu, V. et al. (2017) "Effectiveness of Masks and Respirators Against Respiratory Infections in Healthcare Workers: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis," Clinical Infectious Diseases, Volume 65, Issue 11, 1 December 2017, Pages 1934–1942, https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/65/11/1934/4068747

"Self-reported assessment of clinical outcomes was prone to bias. Evidence of a protective effect of masks or respirators against verified respiratory infection (VRI) was not statistically significant"; as per Fig. 2c therein:



Radonovich, L.J. et al. (2019) "N95 Respirators vs Medical Masks for Preventing Influenza Among Health Care Personnel: A Randomized Clinical Trial," JAMA. 2019; 322(9): 824–833. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2749214

"Among 2862 randomized participants, 2371 completed the study and accounted for 5180 HCW-seasons. ... Among outpatient health care personnel, N95 respirators vs medical masks as worn by participants in this trial resulted in no significant difference in the incidence of laboratory-confirmed influenza."

[BADecker]

Sweden, the country that didn't do lockdowns, and barely did masks, shows why masks are dangerous. Do you think they are blaming US deaths on masks, since theirs were so few?


Sweden's Lead Epidemiologist: Wearing Face Masks Is "Very Dangerous"

"It is very dangerous to believe face masks would change the game when it comes to COVID-19," said Anders Tengell, who has overseen Sweden's response to the pandemic while resisting any form of lockdown or mask mandate.

"Face masks can be a complement to other things when other things are safely in place," Tengell added.

"But to start with having face masks and then think[ing] you can crowd your buses or your shopping malls — that's definitely a mistake," he further urged.

Tegnell has consistently spoken out against the use of masks, last month declaring that "With numbers diminishing very quickly in Sweden, we see no point in wearing a face mask in Sweden, not even on public transport."

"The findings that have been produced through face masks are astonishingly weak, even though so many people around the world wear them," Tengell has urged.

"I'm surprised that we don't have more or better studies showing what effect masks actually have. Countries such as Spain and Belgium have made their populations wear masks but their infection numbers have still risen," the epidemiologist also declared.

Sweden, which didn't enforce any mandatory lockdown order, has seen its coronavirus cases and deaths slow to a trickle.

[BADecker]

Facemasks are the danger of yesterday. Now we have a new danger. More and more studies show that the poisons in hand gels, etc., is dangerous to your system... in more ways than one.


Coronavirus warning: Mass use of hand gels could CREATE unstoppable superbugs - expert

Dr Andrew Kemp, Head of Scientific Advisory Board on the British Institute of Cleaning Science, said alcohol based hand gels have still not been proven to kill Covid-19 on skin. But the Lincoln university academic said overuse of the gels will allow other bugs - commonly found on our hands - to learn how to survive them. If antibiotic resistant superbugs adapt to survive alcohol it could lead to an "armageddon situation", he warned.

He stressed that hand hygiene was vital to deal with the spread of Covid, and hand washing was a powerful weapon. But he warned that even the most potent sanitisers do not destroy every single bug, potentially giving rise to more problems.

[Jet Cash]

More and more studies show that the poisons in hand gels, etc., is dangerous to your system

Whether that is true or not, there is a greater disadvantage in the use of hand sanitisers. The virus fighting bacteria on your skin form one of the first lines of defences against a variety of infections, and they have evolved over thousands of years to help us to stay healthy. By killing them, you are raising the portcullis to allow infections into your body.

[BADecker]

More and more studies show that the poisons in hand gels, etc., is dangerous to your system

Whether that is true or not, there is a greater disadvantage in the use of hand sanitisers. The virus fighting bacteria on your skin form one of the first lines of defences against a variety of infections, and they have evolved over thousands of years to help us to stay healthy. By killing them, you are raising the portcullis to allow infections into your body.

Is there proof that they have evolved? Isn't it more likely that many of them have gone extinct, and this is the reason why those that remain aren't doing as good of a job as they should? After all, look at how many extinct plants and animals the fossil record expresses. Possibly the ones that are left have devolved.

[Dorodha]

One of the health rules that medical scientists are told to follow to prevent the spread of the pandemic corona virus is to wear a regular mask. the use of masks can also be dangerous to health wearing a mask during heavy physical activity can lead to abnormal fatigue muscle tension or cramps in various parts of the body, nausea, dizziness and even a brain stroke.  it is not possible to maintain social distance according to the rules in which case the corona infection cannot be prevented by wearing a normal cloth mask.

[Jet Cash]

I have taken to wearing a standard face mask when inside a supermarket. This is not because I believe that it helps to reduce the spread of Corona virus immunity, but because it is the law in the UK, and I get a bit fed up with the brainless sheeple shouting for me to be arrested if I don't wear one. I've been using the same cheap mask that I was given 3 weeks ago, and I suspect that it may be a health hazard as the fibres inside are becoming detached.

[franky1]

I have taken to wearing a standard face mask when inside a supermarket. This is not because I believe that it helps to reduce the spread of Corona virus immunity, but because it is the law in the UK, and I get a bit fed up with the brainless sheeple shouting for me to be arrested if I don't wear one. I've been using the same cheap mask that I was given 3 weeks ago, and I suspect that it may be a health hazard as the fibres inside are becoming detached.

any face covering
get a scarf or a bandana that you can wash.

and you are going to the supermarket to sit in the cafe.. your allowed to take the mask off to sip your coffee
. no wonder your facemask is falling apart if you keep sipping through your mask fearing arrest

..
by the way you dont get arrested for not wearing a mask.now your just exagurating. i guarantee you wil not see any jailtime for not wearing a mask.
the law is a on the spot fine(like a parking/speeding ticket) if the police see you without a mask
get your facts right and you wont have to be so stressed about life

also only 33 fines were issues as of before the start of august. the reason why. is because people are asked first to wear a mask or leave the shop(when not in the food/drink area's).. if they refuse both options. then the cops are called as thats then tresspassing
and when the cops arrive. then get a fine

so expect only to be asked to cover up or leave and have some glancing at you wondering why your being an idiot.. dont fear jailtime... unless you are completely refusal and decide to disturb the peace and cause a menace.

[Maestro75]

Coronavirus masks do not stop viruses.

Coronavirus masks keep bacteria in - on the mask. Then they add moisture to the bacteria on the inside of the mask. Then you get sick from the rampaging bacteria inside your mask you are wearing.

Anything that is artificial will never be comfortable for the human body and as such that is what the mask does too. You can not breath well in it but it is better than not wearing any at all as a safety measure. Also having bacteria infection as a result of wearing the mask is better than getting infected with coronavirus. Viruses have a faster rate of casualties than bacterias.

[Jet Cash]

But the masks do not block aerosols, so they won't stop you being infected with the Corona virus. What they will do is to allow you to rebreathe the infections that your first line of defence is trying to expel. They also route the virus up into your eyes to provide another entry point for the virus. If you add to that the reduction in oxygen that you breathe, and the fact that you have to raise your voice to communicate, and thus increase the virus count you expel, masks seem to be a pretty bad option if you really want to reduce the impact of the virus.

[franky1]

jetcash.. do some basic math on pysical size particles of air vs larger water droplets
you will surprise yourself

if cloth doesnt stop aeosols then there is no way you can dye a shirt a different colour because the paint will just seep straight through
no way to make a bathroom flannel wet because the water will seep through

the reason why wearing a mask makes you uncomfortable and not be able to breathe 100% clearly is because its stopping the air particles. which means its definetly stopping the larger water particles

its not 100% effective at the larger stuff. but its better than nothing.
for the many times you have been told. distance actually helps the most. and then masks if you cant keep distance

[BADecker]

No, no, franky1. Don't die. Government needs you to live so that you can pay them more taxes. What? You don't pay taxes!? Shame on you.

Be free. Live another day to pay another day. And then die another day. Be free. [Starting to sound like James Bond]


Kirk Cousins just fine with getting coronavirus: 'If I die, I die'

"If I die, I die," Cousins said on Spotify's "10 Questions" podcast hosted by NFL Network's Kyle Brandt.

During the interview with Brandt, Cousins went against the advice of medical experts, including the CDC, who have said masks can prevent the spread of the virus and lead to the country gaining control of the pandemic.

Brandt asked, "If 1 is the person who says, 'Masks are stupid, you're all a bunch of lemmings' and 10 is, 'I'm not leaving my master bathroom for the next 10 years,' where do you land?"

After a chuckle, Cousins responded, "I'm not gonna call anybody stupid, for the trouble it would get me in. But I'm about a .000001."

Brandt followed up with, "Really, how come?"

[BADecker]

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[Jet Cash]

I've got the answer. I'm looking for someone to make me a fishnet mask. John Bergman made one out of a steel wool cleaning pad, and a chain mail type mask looks great.

[BADecker]

^^^ However, they don't care about the kind of mask you wear. They don't even care, provided that you keep a mask in your pocket. All they want is your mask acknowledgement.

[Jet Cash]

Well they arrested a guy for wearing a jock strap as a mask, and another guy for walking down Oxford Street when he was naked apart from a mask over his wedding tackle.

[BADecker]

Well they arrested a guy for wearing a jock strap as a mask, and another guy for walking down Oxford Street when he was naked apart from a mask over his wedding tackle.

The exact thing to do depends on the circumstances. But in general...

Invoice the arresting officer for taking your freedom away. When he doesn't pay your fee (500,000 pounds), sue him in court, Queen's Bench, man to man, for keeping your property (your body) from going from point A to point B in any free manner you wish.

What he will do is say that Covid is the reason. Make him prove that Covid exists. Do your research, and bring in expert witnesses like Dr. Andrew Kaufman, who show that there never was any proper isolating of the virus. But if their ex-wit, shows virus isolation, let Kaufman tear it apart bit by bit. You just might be the one who sets us all free from the Covid stupidity.

Other than that, if you are fearful that they will arrest you for simple non-social distancing in lockdown, you might be paranoid?

In the States, the lockdowns are voluntary. Even arrests are based on voluntary compliance (like IRS taxes), so you can get out of them by volunteering out. I mean, they are not Constitutional, so where is the agreement that you made? Show the paperwork where I signed on the line. If they can't do it, sue them for disallowing your right to travel.