should china be punished for Bullying Countries?

[marvelx]

From Many I have watching news about China's bullying
Here are some examples
Recently Netherland changed Taiwan rep office name
On Response to that china threatens to halt medical supplies
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3925556

Also China threatend Australia over the Australia's demand for independent investigation of Wuhan Lab

China also threatened Nepal , India and many more country

China also hide the information  corona virus how it spread and all

China's recent activity South China Raises a question that
Don't you think it unethical?

Is Covid-19 a Biological Weapon?

Should China Get punished?



China is interfering in Nepal politics
China is too much involved in the Nepal politics that
I think soon one country will be wipped out from Just like Tibet

China have border disputes with over 18 countries
China's policy of expansion is clearly visible if you look at this this issues
People’s Republic of China takes the cake when it comes to disputes it has them with the following countries:
Taiwan (ROC),
 North Korea,
South Korea,
 Japan,
Bhutan,
India,
 Vietnam,
Philippines,
Malaysia, and
Brunei.

China is using this Pandemic to take control of this territories

China's aggressive towards Taiwan is well known
China is soo aggressive that nearly all countries denies the existence of Taiwan



Did China 'Intentionally Hide' Severity of Covid-19 to Hoard Medical Supplies?
https://www.news18.com/amp/news/world/did-china-intentionally-hide-severity-of-covid-19-to-hoard-medical-supplies-new-report-offers-answers-2604181.html

[Saisher]

From Many I have watching news about China's bullying
Here are some examples
Recently Netherland changed Taiwan rep office name
On Response to that china threatens to halt medical supplies
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3925556

Also China threatend Australia over the Australia's demand for independent investigation of Wuhan Lab

China also threatened Nepal , India and many more country

China also hide the information  corona virus how it spread and all

China's recent activity South China Raises a question that
Don't you think it unethical?
Is Covid-19 a Biological Weapon?


Should China Get punished?

They should be punished, but the biggest question is how? the best that we can get to punish China is trade embargo or not patronizing their products and stop their low class manufacturers from making your product, they have a very cheap labors and because of that they have become rich exploiting their manpower, but only super powe can punish China.

[coolcoinz]

China is not the only bullying country in the world. The US and Russia are doing their fair share.
Should they be punished? The world can impose sanctions but I believe the situation will reach a boiling point there sooner or later, with or without outside intervention. China is overpopulated and people are eating all kinds of things that later cause mutated viruses to surface.
Next time a new virus emerges in China the world should shut down all flights to China and not allow anyone from China within borders. Let them sleep in the bed they've made for themselves.

[Chrystora123]

China is not the only bullying country in the world. The US and Russia are doing their fair share.
Should they be punished? The world can impose sanctions but I believe the situation will reach a boiling point there sooner or later, with or without outside intervention. China is overpopulated and people are eating all kinds of things that later cause mutated viruses to surface.
Next time a new virus emerges in China the world should shut down all flights to China and not allow anyone from China within borders. Let them sleep in the bed they've made for themselves.

The US and Russia are indeed one of the bullying countries but they don't spread the plague..  Since the beginning, Russia and the US have helped the world a lot with the technology they have developed but so far China is only a center of KW products which only spreads disease and makes the world difficult.  China gives loans to poor countries with the aim to keep the country locked and they can control.  China must not only apologize in front of the media for creating the problems the world is facing but they must also pay the entire loss..

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-02/china-to-start-buying-oil-for-state-reserves-after-price-crash when I read this news I was thinking "china has no brains, buy lots of oil in this difficult time". I support influential countries to impose punitive damages to the Chinese government..  and one more thing, since the beginning of China is not honest with their sufferers, are you sure a country with a population of 1.4 billion and has a dirty lifestyle only have positive corona patients no more than 100 thousand

[BADecker]

Should china be punished for Bullying Countries?

Yes! But then you would have to punish the US medical for backing her to do it.

[tsaroz]

All of superpwer bully countries. US doesn't care of anyone. It does what it wants. Topple and raise governments and nations. Russia attacks it's neighbour and fellow UN member and do extra judicial killings in foreign lands. The rules and ethics are just for the powerless.

[marvelx]

Should china be punished for Bullying Countries?

Yes! But then you would have to punish the US medical for backing her to do it.

Yes bro china should be Punished

[marvelx]

All of superpwer bully countries. US doesn't care of anyone. It does what it wants. Topple and raise governments and nations. Russia attacks it's neighbour and fellow UN member and do extra judicial killings in foreign lands. The rules and ethics are just for the powerless.

But What China did is different than this

China want rule the world
China just want dominant the world
China damaged the world economy

In 2nd world war countries like Germany japan got punished
Now the damaged is much bigger than it

China should be banned in international  community

[tsaroz]

All of superpwer bully countries. US doesn't care of anyone. It does what it wants. Topple and raise governments and nations. Russia attacks it's neighbour and fellow UN member and do extra judicial killings in foreign lands. The rules and ethics are just for the powerless.

But What China did is different than this

China want rule the world
China just want dominant the world
China damaged the world economy

In 2nd world war countries like Germany japan got punished
Now the damaged is much bigger than it

China should be banned in international  community

Every superpower wants to rule the world.
Superpowers dominant the world.
They try to control world economy.

In war the larger bully wins over the small bully.
War has nothing to do with good or bad. It's just the winners that manipulate the history book to save their faces.

[squatz1]

The one thing you have to remember when trying to 'punish' a country is that you can't just go to one person and convince them to do something, there's no NEW WORLD ORDER or WORLD GOVERNMENT that handles this sort of thing. The UN is a joke when it comes to doing things, and is really just there to employ tons of diplomats and to put on a show and dance for the world.

The only way to punish China would be through the usage of many goverments imposing tarrifs on their economy, and being able to hurt China more then it hurts the US.

Do I think that China should be punished for stealing intellectual property from countries every single day to benefit themselves? Yes. They have a clear disregard for other countries  -- I shouldn't have to give you something to stop stealing from my country and the companies in my country. You should just stop stealing.

[Naida_BR]

From Many I have watching news about China's bullying
Here are some examples
Recently Netherland changed Taiwan rep office name
On Response to that china threatens to halt medical supplies
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3925556

Also China threatend Australia over the Australia's demand for independent investigation of Wuhan Lab

China also threatened Nepal , India and many more country

China also hide the information  corona virus how it spread and all

China's recent activity South China Raises a question that
Don't you think it unethical?
Is Covid-19 a Biological Weapon?


Should China Get punished?

They should be punished, but the biggest question is how? the best that we can get to punish China is trade embargo or not patronizing their products and stop their low class manufacturers from making your product, they have a very cheap labors and because of that they have become rich exploiting their manpower, but only super powe can punish China.

So the virus was create from China?
Because initially it was said that it was created by the US (CIA) in order to harm the Chinese economy. Now this isn't true?
The same way that the US cannot be punished for anything they do, is valid for China as well. Even a trade war to them would not harm their economy at all as there are a lot of economies that rely to them and manufacture materials there.

[Cnut237]

In war the larger bully wins over the small bully.
War has nothing to do with good or bad. It's just the winners that manipulate the history book to save their faces.

This is the essence of it. Bigger countries bully smaller countries, whether by troops on the ground, trade embargoes, or more subtle influencing or coercion. More powerful groups bully less powerful groups. More powerful people bully less powerful people.

I have no idea why people are attacking China. The idea of 'punishing' China seems like an abrogation of responsibility. CV19 originated in China, and China's initial suppression of whistleblowers was a dereliction of duty and did cause an outbreak when a different type of government might have managed to contain the virus. However their actions since then, purely in terms of suppressing the virus, have been exemplary, particularly compared with the atrocious mismanagement we've seen from other nations.

The rest of the world knew what was coming, and chose to do nothing until it was too late. Certain prominent politicians around the globe now seek to blame China in order to hide their own failure to take action. If the US/UK/whoever had implemented 14-day quarantine procedures for people entering the country as soon as the outbreak in China became apparent, then the death tolls in these countries would be negligible or zero, and the economic damage would have been slight rather than extreme. Blaming China is the 'grown-up' equivalent of the kid in the playground who is caught out doing something bad, then they just point at another kid and say 'he started it!'. You can't just try to pin your own failing on someone else, particularly if you run a country. Governments act too slowly, and are reactive rather than proactive. They are interested in what might make them look bad right now, rather than what might make them look bad a couple of weeks down the line. Our fault as voters in democracies really, it is us who put these idiots in power.



And this thing about the South China Sea, I am not defending China's attempts to wrest control over the area, but... this has been going on for years, but suddenly now it is a huge issue? Ridiculous. The people who are suddenly outraged by China's behaviour there and are demanding retributive action need to ask themselves why they had zero interest in this topic prior to the CV19 outbreak.

[Subbir]

As China may be a developed country they need to regulate everything within the world they're going to rule the entire world they need to require control of the planet economy as they need trade and commerce. But not every desk will ever accept it. Because the entire world has suffered such a lot due to China Their economy is hampered. Although China wants to be influential within the world, Japan, us, and Russia won't support them albeit they're their neighbors.

[squatz1]

In war the larger bully wins over the small bully.
War has nothing to do with good or bad. It's just the winners that manipulate the history book to save their faces.

This is the essence of it. Bigger countries bully smaller countries, whether by troops on the ground, trade embargoes, or more subtle influencing or coercion. More powerful groups bully less powerful groups. More powerful people bully less powerful people.

I have no idea why people are attacking China. The idea of 'punishing' China seems like an abrogation of responsibility. CV19 originated in China, and China's initial suppression of whistleblowers was a dereliction of duty and did cause an outbreak when a different type of government might have managed to contain the virus. However their actions since then, purely in terms of suppressing the virus, have been exemplary, particularly compared with the atrocious mismanagement we've seen from other nations.

The rest of the world knew what was coming, and chose to do nothing until it was too late. Certain prominent politicians around the globe now seek to blame China in order to hide their own failure to take action. If the US/UK/whoever had implemented 14-day quarantine procedures for people entering the country as soon as the outbreak in China became apparent, then the death tolls in these countries would be negligible or zero, and the economic damage would have been slight rather than extreme. Blaming China is the 'grown-up' equivalent of the kid in the playground who is caught out doing something bad, then they just point at another kid and say 'he started it!'. You can't just try to pin your own failing on someone else, particularly if you run a country. Governments act too slowly, and are reactive rather than proactive. They are interested in what might make them look bad right now, rather than what might make them look bad a couple of weeks down the line. Our fault as voters in democracies really, it is us who put these idiots in power.



And this thing about the South China Sea, I am not defending China's attempts to wrest control over the area, but... this has been going on for years, but suddenly now it is a huge issue? Ridiculous. The people who are suddenly outraged by China's behaviour there and are demanding retributive action need to ask themselves why they had zero interest in this topic prior to the CV19 outbreak.

Just to start off, I'd like to say that this is a solid post even if I don't agree with what you''re saying here, I do like the amount of thought that was put into this. Great to see.

But onto the topic here, I know why people want to attack China (in the sense of sanctions or some sort of global repatriations, calling out, etc) -- because China hid the fact that this virus was ravaging their nation until they were forced to come out and say it. If the Chinese would've said it earlier, the rest of the WORLD would've had the opportunity to be more proactive and more people would still have the opportunity to be alive.

I use the word opportunity because China telling the rest of the world doesn't guarantee that they're going to close down their borderes with China, just gives the chance for it to happen.

China did something horribly wrong here, and they should be punished for doing so.

As China may be a developed country they need to regulate everything within the world they're going to rule the entire world they need to require control of the planet economy as they need trade and commerce. But not every desk will ever accept it. Because the entire world has suffered such a lot due to China Their economy is hampered. Although China wants to be influential within the world, Japan, us, and Russia won't support them albeit they're their neighbors.

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[Cnut237]

Just to start off, I'd like to say that this is a solid post even if I don't agree with what you''re saying here, I do like the amount of thought that was put into this. Great to see.

Thanks - and for the merit. I know that in theory we are supposed to merit 'good' posts, even if we disagree with the content. However in practice this is a rare occurrence, and I for one definitely find it a challenge to give merit when I disagree... so thanks, appreciated, this is what we should all be doing more often.

I use the word opportunity because China telling the rest of the world doesn't guarantee that they're going to close down their borderes with China, just gives the chance for it to happen.

For me this is the crux of it. Yes China tried to suppress the outbreak initially, but I would argue that's not the reason for the huge number of deaths across the world.
If we look at the timeline, even back in January, the WHO was giving a risk assessment of 'high' at the global level (and 'very high' for China).

Here in the UK, our government didn't implement lockdown until 23 March... nearly two months later. Whose fault is it that the UK has thousands of deaths? Whose fault that the US has thousands of deaths? Why didn't the UK lockdown as soon as it became apparent what was happening in China? Why didn't the US lockdown as soon as it became apparent what was happening in Europe? These countries gambled the lives of their citizens against the chance of the virus not reaching them, all in order to prevent a bit of economic damage that would ensue from quarantining new entrants. And it would only have been small economic damage compared to what we have now, due to their failures to act.

Many governments around the world have managed this crisis very badly. Now they are trying the old political trick of trying to pin the blame on someone else. It's absurd.
Also look at the fact that the South China Sea stuff is suddenly back in the news... weird coincidence how this suddenly becomes a major issue at this time.

[FAHRKERIM]

I don't like Chinese policy at all, but if I had to name the world's biggest bully, it'd 100% be the US of A. Pumping insane amounts of money from warfare and killing civilians all over the world - that's the definition of bullying

[squatz1]

Just to start off, I'd like to say that this is a solid post even if I don't agree with what you''re saying here, I do like the amount of thought that was put into this. Great to see.

Thanks - and for the merit. I know that in theory we are supposed to merit 'good' posts, even if we disagree with the content. However in practice this is a rare occurrence, and I for one definitely find it a challenge to give merit when I disagree... so thanks, appreciated, this is what we should all be doing more often.

I use the word opportunity because China telling the rest of the world doesn't guarantee that they're going to close down their borderes with China, just gives the chance for it to happen.

For me this is the crux of it. Yes China tried to suppress the outbreak initially, but I would argue that's not the reason for the huge number of deaths across the world.
If we look at the timeline, even back in January, the WHO was giving a risk assessment of 'high' at the global level (and 'very high' for China).

Here in the UK, our government didn't implement lockdown until 23 March... nearly two months later. Whose fault is it that the UK has thousands of deaths? Whose fault that the US has thousands of deaths? Why didn't the UK lockdown as soon as it became apparent what was happening in China? Why didn't the US lockdown as soon as it became apparent what was happening in Europe? These countries gambled the lives of their citizens against the chance of the virus not reaching them, all in order to prevent a bit of economic damage that would ensue from quarantining new entrants. And it would only have been small economic damage compared to what we have now, due to their failures to act.

Many governments around the world have managed this crisis very badly. Now they are trying the old political trick of trying to pin the blame on someone else. It's absurd.
Also look at the fact that the South China Sea stuff is suddenly back in the news... weird coincidence how this suddenly becomes a major issue at this time.

But I'd have to agree with you, at least a little bit here. Yes, even though China could've warned people quicker -- it doesn't make them solely responsible for everything that happened after that. Though I do think that there is a good amount of blame to lay on their shoulders, as the opportunity to defend themselves earlier wasn't possible. Many countries didn't know that the disease was spreading in their own country, as the time where it began to be noticed was during / after flu season, which has mostly the same illnesses (minus the lethality for older people)

China is wrong as well as other countries are wrong for their inability to strike quickly, but China is the cause for some of this. They should be punished for that.

[BADecker]

China!? If the Chinese people wanted to punish their government, they would have done it already.

In the free world, it's up to the citizens to punish their governmental authorities for bullying. "It's China's fault. It's China's fault," they keep on screaming.

S***. When did China force any of the leaders of the free world to do anything? If they did, prove it. Otherwise, get up and prove that anything that China says is the truth. I mean, prove it to your people. If you won't prove it to your people, then you are the ones who are bullying your people.

Proof. Not just talk that you have proof.

[marvelx]

China!? If the Chinese people wanted to punish their government, they would have done it already.

In the free world, it's up to the citizens to punish their governmental authorities for bullying. "It's China's fault. It's China's fault," they keep on screaming.

S***. When did China force any of the leaders of the free world to do anything? If they did, prove it. Otherwise, get up and prove that anything that China says is the truth. I mean, prove it to your people. If you won't prove it to your people, then you are the ones who are bullying your people.

Proof. Not just talk that you have proof.

China is aashole , China just how to invade other sovereignty

For proof just go and search it on Google
   Asshole China

[marvelx]

I don't like Chinese policy at all, but if I had to name the world's biggest bully, it'd 100% be the US of A. Pumping insane amounts of money from warfare and killing civilians all over the world - that's the definition of bullying

That also true but China is just Big asshole