All your entertainment things must have an external limiting feature, agree?

[peter0425]

How can they help you control your playing and betting when they are targeting your money to fill their bag?

I just said it's an alternative solution I didn't say it's the best solution available while it doesn't help the majority of the gamblers that became addicted it can still help a few gamblers in some way. For others blocking their main gambling account could serve as a first step to know their priorities and eventually break their habit.

Yeah i get your point,at least they can show some good deeds for their players i guess?though like what i said Casino operators will do this the very last in the list as they are to profit from our losses and drama is nothing for them.

At some point they might just advertising this for them to look concern and helping but the truth is?
Never that they will make this as priority.

In the end?it is our action being gambler that will save our asses and no one really cares.

[jrrsparkles]

Nothing is going to stop unless the user itself want to stop because gambling sites can make profits if gamblers play more and more so we can't expect them to stop us from over betting and other way could be locking our funds for a time frame in a website or in a wallet which also not feasible because no one really want to lock their funds.

[iv4n]

Nothing is going to stop unless the user itself want to stop because gambling sites can make profits if gamblers play more and more so we can't expect them to stop us from over betting and other way could be locking our funds for a time frame in a website or in a wallet which also not feasible because no one really want to lock their funds.

I think the same, only you can stop and limit yourself in long run, everything else can be bypassed. There're good ways to limit yourself, to lock some funds where you don't have instant access, with strong character you don't need that, you just need a different wallet, and you will keep your fund safe.
Here we can't talk in general, some people can afford to lose more, some can lose less, some are alone and even if they get busted they will find a way to survive and make money, some have families, and they can't afford to lose a lot and leave family without food. And in all cases you can think of, there are exceptions... people who will do it anyway, without thinking about consequences. And you know what, that's life, some people learn in the easy way, some people learn in hard way, but imposing rules on all the people just because there are few idiots who do it their own way is not good, and this system is all about that, making more rules, more control, with that actions they make even normal people to find another way and to try to bypass those rules.

[FlightyPouch]

Nothing is going to stop unless the user itself want to stop because gambling sites can make profits if gamblers play more and more so we can't expect them to stop us from over betting and other way could be locking our funds for a time frame in a website or in a wallet which also not feasible because no one really want to lock their funds.

Well, we can't really believe or even expect these online casinos or gambling sites to make a way to stop us gamblers from betting. It is either the government need to interfere with their policies and regulation or if we realize ourselves that we need to limit or we need to stop gambling. Another thing is that if ever that a casino site would be adding a limiting feature for their accounts, would gamblers really use it?

[leea-1334]

Unfortunately, not all gamblers know their limit when they play gambling because we know that many gamblers lose their money for playing gambling in the long term. They lose their discipline while they played gambling, and that makes them lose their control too. The gambling website can add these features or remind every gambler on their site, but in the end, all of the things will be back to the gamblers, whether they can control themselves or lose their money.

Not all? I would say the great majority of them do not;) Even myself, with all my discipline for 99% of the time, I have 1% of events where I lose my head and chase losses down until I go bust. It is a terrible feeling to be in, but one not many people know how to manage. So that management starts right at deposit: only put in what you know you should by all logical explanations lose.

External limiting features help, and should be there, but they are almost completely useless if a gambler is adamant to deposit, since he goes elsewhere.

[AicecreaME]

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Not all? I would say the great majority of them do not;)

Same stuff, you just repeated it.

It's lucky for you if you're not addicted to gambling, I assume that is because you clearly do not have the funds or time to deep dive in the gambling world. You can't say you're not an addicted gambler just because you deposit a small amount of money and stop playing when you lost all the money you deposited, because you've just taste a sip of what gambling actually taste like.

If you spent most of your time in gambling every single day spending all of your money, and you still have the ability to stop in an instant once you think you're not in a good track, then I'll believe in you saying that you have 99% of self-discipline.

[Twentyonepaylots]

Nothing is going to stop unless the user itself want to stop because gambling sites can make profits if gamblers play more and more so we can't expect them to stop us from over betting and other way could be locking our funds for a time frame in a website or in a wallet which also not feasible because no one really want to lock their funds.

Well, we can't really believe or even expect these online casinos or gambling sites to make a way to stop us gamblers from betting.

They were made to receive bets, host a gambling platform, and you guys are thinking of an idea where casino to act to stop anyone from gambling. The only thing that the casino can do is to regulate what's going in and out of their platform walking just on the rules set by the state they were registered.

It is either the government need to interfere with their policies and regulation or if we realize ourselves that we need to limit or we need to stop gambling. Another thing is that if ever that a casino site would be adding a limiting feature for their accounts, would gamblers really use it?

Limits should come from us, the gamblers ourselves coz that is a matter of discipline. Even if the government tells you to have $500 limit in a day/week, would that be enough for anyone to stop betting? besides I think that would be a racist and inequality for the government to do, imagine setting a limit on this guy coz his deposit total history is below a rich person requirement. Casinos on the other hand should always be wary of the people inside their regulations.

[michellee]

Unfortunately, not all gamblers know their limit when they play gambling because we know that many gamblers lose their money for playing gambling in the long term. They lose their discipline while they played gambling, and that makes them lose their control too. The gambling website can add these features or remind every gambler on their site, but in the end, all of the things will be back to the gamblers, whether they can control themselves or lose their money.

Not all? I would say the great majority of them do not;) Even myself, with all my discipline for 99% of the time, I have 1% of events where I lose my head and chase losses down until I go bust. It is a terrible feeling to be in, but one not many people know how to manage. So that management starts right at deposit: only put in what you know you should by all logical explanations lose.

External limiting features help, and should be there, but they are almost completely useless if a gambler is adamant to deposit, since he goes elsewhere.

Maybe most gamblers don't have a limit and lose their control to manage their money, but I am sure some gamblers can stop gambling immediately because they realize about gambling is just for fun things. Maybe we all have experienced losing all of the money in gambling, but from that experience, we realize that we must control ourselves to manage our money and our time in gambling.

External limiting features can be added, but the gamblers need to take responsibility for themselves, including to avoid becoming an addiction to gambling. No matter how good the features in gambling websites, if the gamblers don't control themselves, it will be useless for them because they will lose more and more money.

[matchi2011]

Nothing is going to stop unless the user itself want to stop because gambling sites can make profits if gamblers play more and more so we can't expect them to stop us from over betting and other way could be locking our funds for a time frame in a website or in a wallet which also not feasible because no one really want to lock their funds.

Well, we can't really believe or even expect these online casinos or gambling sites to make a way to stop us gamblers from betting. It is either the government need to interfere with their policies and regulation or if we realize ourselves that we need to limit or we need to stop gambling. Another thing is that if ever that a casino site would be adding a limiting feature for their accounts, would gamblers really use it?

Very relative question. If you place this kind of rules how sure you are that the gamblers will stay?

There are always ways for such gamblers where they can find other places to continue without any restrictions.

It's a good idea for people who like being corrected, but to those who are not then then they are going to find alternative ways to continue.

[leea-1334]

Same stuff, you just repeated it.

It's lucky for you if you're not addicted to gambling, I assume that is because you clearly do not have the funds or time to deep dive in the gambling world. You can't say you're not an addicted gambler just because you deposit a small amount of money and stop playing when you lost all the money you deposited, because you've just taste a sip of what gambling actually taste like.

If you spent most of your time in gambling every single day spending all of your money, and you still have the ability to stop in an instant once you think you're not in a good track, then I'll believe in you saying that you have 99% of self-discipline.

We are not talking about the same thing. I am saying 99% of us do NOT have the discipline all of the time, and only 1% is the perfect person who stops when he should all of the time.

I would not dare to say I am not addicted or that it is lucky for me,,, I have tried to quit completely but it gets kind of worse if I somehow do not bet and then I come back after a while (real life betting, just buying lucky numbers). And here online I have accounts on several sites if you know me, you can see my same username and see my levels. What is your username on which sites?

Addiction does not automatically mean one stereotype as you describe though.

[Kupid002]

Nothing is going to stop unless the user itself want to stop because gambling sites can make profits if gamblers play more and more so we can't expect them to stop us from over betting and other way could be locking our funds for a time frame in a website or in a wallet which also not feasible because no one really want to lock their funds.

Well, we can't really believe or even expect these online casinos or gambling sites to make a way to stop us gamblers from betting. It is either the government need to interfere with their policies and regulation or if we realize ourselves that we need to limit or we need to stop gambling. Another thing is that if ever that a casino site would be adding a limiting feature for their accounts, would gamblers really use it?

they will not use it since they don't want to have limit when they are playing. The only persons that can help you to stop is your self by giving your own limit  . If I remember some gamblers take a loan just to continue playing that ventually  will sink them  into debt. Government can also help of they can make a regulation that can help gamblers but gambling sites I don't think they will do it.

[MCobian]

Nothing is going to stop unless the user itself want to stop because gambling sites can make profits if gamblers play more and more so we can't expect them to stop us from over betting and other way could be locking our funds for a time frame in a website or in a wallet which also not feasible because no one really want to lock their funds.

Well, we can't really believe or even expect these online casinos or gambling sites to make a way to stop us gamblers from betting. It is either the government need to interfere with their policies and regulation or if we realize ourselves that we need to limit or we need to stop gambling. Another thing is that if ever that a casino site would be adding a limiting feature for their accounts, would gamblers really use it?

they will not use it since they don't want to have limit when they are playing. The only persons that can help you to stop is your self by giving your own limit  . If I remember some gamblers take a loan just to continue playing that ventually  will sink them  into debt. Government can also help of they can make a regulation that can help gamblers but gambling sites I don't think they will do it.

I totally agree that the only thing that can limit when playing gambling is ourselves. It is impossible for gambling sites to limit
users from playing gambling on their site, it is ridiculous if there are gambling sites that do that matter. Because for gambling
sites the longer we play gambling the more profitable they are, therefore gambling sites will be makes us users play gambling
until the capital we have runs out. That is how gambling sites get rich.

[Janation]

Nothing is going to stop unless the user itself want to stop because gambling sites can make profits if gamblers play more and more so we can't expect them to stop us from over betting and other way could be locking our funds for a time frame in a website or in a wallet which also not feasible because no one really want to lock their funds.

Well, we can't really believe or even expect these online casinos or gambling sites to make a way to stop us gamblers from betting. It is either the government need to interfere with their policies and regulation or if we realize ourselves that we need to limit or we need to stop gambling. Another thing is that if ever that a casino site would be adding a limiting feature for their accounts, would gamblers really use it?

No, they will definitely stop gambling at that casinos.

That is the thing about gamblers, if they feel that they are being limited and being restricted to do things they wanted, they will go to other place where they could continue what they are doing in the past. I think casino owners are also aware of this that is why for a long time, they would not be accepting this idea. Gamblers themselves should step up, not the casinos not the government.

[Natalim]

Nothing is going to stop unless the user itself want to stop because gambling sites can make profits if gamblers play more and more so we can't expect them to stop us from over betting and other way could be locking our funds for a time frame in a website or in a wallet which also not feasible because no one really want to lock their funds.

Well, we can't really believe or even expect these online casinos or gambling sites to make a way to stop us gamblers from betting. It is either the government need to interfere with their policies and regulation or if we realize ourselves that we need to limit or we need to stop gambling. Another thing is that if ever that a casino site would be adding a limiting feature for their accounts, would gamblers really use it?

No, they will definitely stop gambling at that casinos.

That is the thing about gamblers, if they feel that they are being limited and being restricted to do things they wanted, they will go to other place where they could continue what they are doing in the past. I think casino owners are also aware of this that is why for a long time, they would not be accepting this idea. Gamblers themselves should step up, not the casinos not the government.

That's right, limitation is a bad thing in gambling, casinos would not want that either as that will also limit their profit.

If our country, there's a saying when gambling that goes "sky is the limit", so we can gamble whole night until the morning because gambling is fun.
Gamblers already have that kind of attitude, it's already in their system, they don't feel tired or bored even gambling for long hours.

[Viscore]

Nothing is going to stop unless the user itself want to stop because gambling sites can make profits if gamblers play more and more so we can't expect them to stop us from over betting and other way could be locking our funds for a time frame in a website or in a wallet which also not feasible because no one really want to lock their funds.

I agree that limiting feature will just become a display if the gambler will ignore it and just go and gambler more, I'm ok if a gambling site has it,  it's a good reminder for those who wants to stop  when they reach a certain condition or threshold but if you asked gambling operators they want none of it, because gambling sites is a profit and entertainment driven company, they want you to play and enjoy more of their features.

Gamblers will never think about for sure, it much more if you are already addicted to it. And obviously, the gambling site itself never imposed this seriously, they'll be making money from gamblers, and why they should take such responsibility? Not a thing they should do, gambling owners will just to comply with what the regulations stated but actually they are not going to do it.

[jrrsparkles]

Nothing is going to stop unless the user itself want to stop because gambling sites can make profits if gamblers play more and more so we can't expect them to stop us from over betting and other way could be locking our funds for a time frame in a website or in a wallet which also not feasible because no one really want to lock their funds.

I agree that limiting feature will just become a display if the gambler will ignore it and just go and gambler more, I'm ok if a gambling site has it,  it's a good reminder for those who wants to stop  when they reach a certain condition or threshold but if you asked gambling operators they want none of it, because gambling sites is a profit and entertainment driven company, they want you to play and enjoy more of their features.

Nowadays gambling sites are not giving any warning for the maximum amount bet and lot of people claim they accidentally clicked the max amount while entering the bet amount so it is a stupidity to expect something from those sites and as you said its profit driven company so they want the gambler to keep playing.

[South Park]

How can they help you control your playing and betting when they are targeting your money to fill their bag?

I just said it's an alternative solution I didn't say it's the best solution available while it doesn't help the majority of the gamblers that became addicted it can still help a few gamblers in some way. For others blocking their main gambling account could serve as a first step to know their priorities and eventually break their habit.

It is a great alternative solution.

But whether these online casinos have it or not, I don't think it will work since as you've said only some people are using it, that feature is rarely used by these gamblers. We can say the casinos are doing their part, we also know that these casinos wanted to earn money since at the end of the day, it is still a business, and we are gamblers.

If at some point this gets implemented it is going to be just to silence those that want that feature in the casinos, because it is obvious it is going to be completely ineffective, after all those that can gamble responsibly do not need something like that at all, and those that have problems with their gambling are not going to use it because they are in denial about their condition, this will only help the few addicted gamblers which are in the phase of recognizing their addiction and which are trying to do something about it.

[adzino]

Maybe most gamblers don't have a limit and lose their control to manage their money, but I am sure some gamblers can stop gambling immediately because they realize about gambling is just for fun things. Maybe we all have experienced losing all of the money in gambling, but from that experience, we realize that we must control ourselves to manage our money and our time in gambling.

External limiting features can be added, but the gamblers need to take responsibility for themselves, including to avoid becoming an addiction to gambling. No matter how good the features in gambling websites, if the gamblers don't control themselves, it will be useless for them because they will lose more and more money.

They are an adult and they should be responsible for their decision. Others can't baby sit them forever. But, yeah if you see someone close to you is addicted to gambling, then you should help him. Though,  remember, you can't really help someone who truly doesn't want to help themselves. No matter how much you try, in the end they end up acting the same way they used to. You should help him when he realizes that he needs help and truly wants to change. Or else you will just be wasting your energy and time. I have learned this the hard way.
Those external limiting features won't help. They will eventually find a way to "bypass" those limiting feature.

[Google+]

Nothing is going to stop unless the user itself want to stop because gambling sites can make profits if gamblers play more and more so we can't expect them to stop us from over betting and other way could be locking our funds for a time frame in a website or in a wallet which also not feasible because no one really want to lock their funds.

I agree that limiting feature will just become a display if the gambler will ignore it and just go and gambler more, I'm ok if a gambling site has it,  it's a good reminder for those who wants to stop  when they reach a certain condition or threshold but if you asked gambling operators they want none of it, because gambling sites is a profit and entertainment driven company, they want you to play and enjoy more of their features.

Nowadays gambling sites are not giving any warning for the maximum amount bet and lot of people claim they accidentally clicked the max amount while entering the bet amount so it is a stupidity to expect something from those sites and as you said its profit driven company so they want the gambler to keep playing.

I think those are some of the tricks performed by gambling establishments that take advantage of the mistakes of new gamblers who don't know how to gamble in that place, so at least you have to be careful when you are gambling, not to lose your assets immediately.

[johhnyUA]

Nothing is going to stop unless the user itself want to stop because gambling sites can make profits if gamblers play more and more so we can't expect them to stop us from over betting and other way could be locking our funds for a time frame in a website or in a wallet which also not feasible because no one really want to lock their funds.

I agree that limiting feature will just become a display if the gambler will ignore it and just go and gambler more, I'm ok if a gambling site has it,  it's a good reminder for those who wants to stop  when they reach a certain condition or threshold but if you asked gambling operators they want none of it, because gambling sites is a profit and entertainment driven company, they want you to play and enjoy more of their features.

Gamblers will never think about for sure, it much more if you are already addicted to it. And obviously, the gambling site itself never imposed this seriously, they'll be making money from gamblers, and why they should take such responsibility? Not a thing they should do, gambling owners will just to comply with what the regulations stated but actually they are not going to do it.

I can't agree with two people above, but Viscore close enough to my thoughts. Because of above reasons in his posts, we need some government regulations which will implement such "limiting feature", or it will be such "feature" itself. Casinos and sites don't care about gamblers, they just want to increase their profits, but in the same time, in the chain of "gambler-casino" it is they, which can be forced to stop gamblers from loosing everything they have. And limiting feature can be implemented very easy. Because most of people lazy, this will work fine enough with majority i think. (many people can't even use VPN, heh)