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May 03, 2020, 05:25:44 PM
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When I was young, where we live before, I saw people doing drugs before going to play gambling, this has made the worst impact on their mind where they can no longer control their sense of activity. they always lose, most of the reasons are they bet double after they lost the first play. it continues until they have no money left in their pocket. Most of the gambling den in our place offers those kinds of things before you play gambling because the result is good to them. whenever the person gets some winning streaks, he keeps betting until he loses it all and the same for the one who always loses on betting when they are high on drugs, they can no longer get away with it. That's why people with the right mind will not take one step into gambling den because they fear that they might not get out as their usual self.

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May 03, 2020, 09:21:49 PM
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Are you talking about self-inclusions?

The only drawback I see with this self-inclusions is that most of the crypto related gambling websites will let you create an anonymous account and then you can play. But as far as I can remember, Nitrogensports and Bitdice has this on their TOS but I don't know how strict it is being implemented on their end.

Other related thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5079626.0

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May 03, 2020, 09:43:06 PM
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What OP has come up with would be very difficult to make because how would a casino make a gambler stop? Would it be fair?

You say that they shouldn't allow him to continue but what if he's during a winning streak? He'd be able to sue the casino for stopping him from winning more.
Also it wouldn't be fair to set time limits because what would they be? 6 hours? 4 hours? How would you find the best option between allowing people to have enough fun but not too much of it?
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May 03, 2020, 11:05:06 PM
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Casinos have nothing to do to control or limit our excitement.

We are the ones who need to adjust and not them.

Putting a limit is totally useless. It will just result in a much more aggressive approach when doing gambling.

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May 03, 2020, 11:22:48 PM
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When your mind at stable state, you may assume like you have all the control over yourself. But when you are too excited with your adrenaline triggered, your assumptions definitely go upside down. This is the simple reason why we do come across lots of addicts everywhere. Yes, not just in gambling but with any other activities, which makes you feel like too excited or too aggressive may end up making you an addict.

When an activity is capable of making you feel like a child (due to rush-up/emotional stir-up), you must need an external help to limit you.

Gambling is capable of enabling you to time-travel. Yes, you will forget all your stress of your family problems and your work pressures. So, get back to your time of present, you must need some limiting feature in terms of hours. It can be from a mobile alarm or a friendly warning from family members but a perfectly working one should be what that casino itself not letting you to continue, agree?

Limiting feature may not be needed for a physical casino as you cannot stay there all the day but definitely needed for online houses.

I believe this is time for demanding such limiting feature from the all our crypto gambling houses. This may not work in their favor hence we cannot expect them to agree on hearing such a demand on first time itself. But, when gamblers start supporting a house with such a feature, other houses may start implementing it.

A change for good cause may start only when we voice out!

Think about talking to your gambling houses not just for you but for all other fellow gamblers who never realize their addictions.

Every addicted gamblers never think that way because they don't even care about their future. That seemed to be a continuous disease that kills everybody's lives, putting them into financial struggles due to gambling. Those factors brought every addicted person into bondage which cannot be torn out, that's how it works in may ways. However, if we're knowledgeable and knows how to control yourselves I believed it was just a matter of emotional management as well.
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May 03, 2020, 11:39:13 PM
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Over excitement is the kill shot for many gamblers, not every gambler can control his limits. The online businesses have such downsides, especially in the gambling-related platforms. Some gambling sites offer a time limit function to prevent over gambling and this feature is necessary for protecting their long term interest in case of someone sues the company for attracting him. Such cases are popular in the first world countries.

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May 04, 2020, 01:20:02 AM
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I doubt if online casinos would even think about having a limiting feature. The more and longer people stay in the platform the more they earn. Escaping from stress, and doing things that you enjoy the most is a good way to relax and relieve stress for a while. However, too much of everything also causes another problem which is addiction. Moderation must be applied to all things.
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May 04, 2020, 02:58:54 AM
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If we are in stable conditions, of course, we can control ourselves without a problem. I am sure everybody can do that, but when we are high intention or high stress, many of us have lost control of ourselves. That happens too in the gambling games which many of gamblers lose themselves.

The casino will not be related to such conditions because that is totally related to ourselves. We need to have a responsibility with ourselves no matter if we are too excited or not. The only thing that we need to have is we can set how long we can playing gambling, and you can use your phone and set the alarm so you can know that your time is up, and you need to stop gambling as soon as possible. It's about how you control yourself, and that is not the duty of the house.
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May 04, 2020, 04:19:20 AM
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Why should we put limiting features? Wouldn't it defeat the purpose of entertainment, if you are in a stable mind condition in the first place then that means that you can stop whenever you want, this is a paradoxical solution for a simple problem in my opinion. If you put your self on the shoes of a gambling entrepreneur, would you want your customers to stop playing when the condition is that you will get less revenue for your business? If the answer to that is yes then that means no one is going to do it, besides that is how they earn a lot by playing a lot means they are getting more revenue and they are sane enough not to do it.

I am quoting this one because this takes the cake.
Casinos have nothing to do to control or limit our excitement.

We are the ones who need to adjust and not them.

Putting a limit is totally useless. It will just result in a much more aggressive approach when doing gambling.

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May 04, 2020, 05:14:41 AM
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I doubt if online casinos would even think about having a limiting feature. The more and longer people stay in the platform the more they earn.
Even if gambling houses will be adding such limiting feature, I believe gamblers will start abusing it by having multiple account or by changing IP addresses or by holding accounts in multiple gambling houses. I guess until gamblers do have a strong will about restricting themselves, no one could save them from addictions. I guess only gamblers need to work on such limiting thing and definitely not the houses.

Escaping from stress, and doing things that you enjoy the most is a good way to relax and relieve stress for a while.
For these things alone, people are thinking about gambling and other entertainments. But, unfortunately your suggestion is also a valid one. We need gambling for relaxing and again to escape from addictions, again we need another level of relaxation to skip addictions.

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It will be possible only when gamblers realize. But, I agree with OP at least for finding time to realize, we must work on having a limiting feature in gambling houses.

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May 04, 2020, 05:20:10 AM
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I doubt any gambling house will come forward to implement such hour restrictions because it will deeply impact their core business in this highly competitive times and due to covid19 outbreak and its isolation requirements, gambling houses are reaching their new highs in terms of revenue generations hence they may not prefer to get disturbed during their peak times.

Moreover, a gambling should feel their own responsibilities to restrict themselves. I guess every gambling house will say the same thing if you ask about adding such restricting features. In my country, there is no restrictions about smoking and alcohol consumption which is left to individuals like if they care their own health then they should limit themselves. When government itself working this way, how we can expect a business corporate to care about their users.

Yup, while I find the idea with good intention. I don't believe this even comes to the mind of the casino owners. They benefit from gambling addicts. They wouldn't want to lose their customers. They are the one who benefits from gamblers that spends hours and days inside their establishment. They also believe that they are not responsible for the lost of the players, the players itself are responsible for their own lost. Business owners are greedy animals, they won't care about other as long as they benefit from them. This idea can be used individually by the gamblers.

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May 04, 2020, 05:36:14 AM
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I doubt any gambling house will come forward to implement such hour restrictions because it will deeply impact their core business in this highly competitive times and due to covid19 outbreak and its isolation requirements, gambling houses are reaching their new highs in terms of revenue generations hence they may not prefer to get disturbed during their peak times.

Moreover, a gambling should feel their own responsibilities to restrict themselves. I guess every gambling house will say the same thing if you ask about adding such restricting features. In my country, there is no restrictions about smoking and alcohol consumption which is left to individuals like if they care their own health then they should limit themselves. When government itself working this way, how we can expect a business corporate to care about their users.

Yup, while I find the idea with good intention. I don't believe this even comes to the mind of the casino owners. They benefit from gambling addicts. They wouldn't want to lose their customers. They are the one who benefits from gamblers that spends hours and days inside their establishment. They also believe that they are not responsible for the lost of the players, the players itself are responsible for their own lost. Business owners are greedy animals, they won't care about other as long as they benefit from them. This idea can be used individually by the gamblers.

what about those gambling site that offers big bonuses or money back ? aside from it they also have a warning before a gambler enter and play plus they also support listening to gamblers problem if ever the gambler decided to ban himself for some period of time and many more ,   . this kind of gambling sites do also care too to thier costumers more than they care about money but i think most gambling sites wont do this treatment  so dont label that all gambling site are greedy mate .
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May 04, 2020, 07:44:32 AM
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It's a bad habit of mine that I cannot stop.
Whenever I win something even just a little bit of the bet I cannot stop being aggressive and trying to bet more thinking luck is on my side.

Excitement is also there of course, when combined the next decision will go wrong.
Trying to control it but I guess that is just pure emotion of being happy for having a win.

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May 04, 2020, 07:56:29 AM
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I doubt if online casinos would even think about having a limiting feature. The more and longer people stay in the platform the more they earn. Escaping from stress, and doing things that you enjoy the most is a good way to relax and relieve stress for a while. However, too much of everything also causes another problem which is addiction. Moderation must be applied to all things.

It's double edge sword here, and self-inclusion most of the time doesn't work here. Gambler just don't voluntarily says "I'm quitting" and casinos are not going to deny them playing as well. The best thing you can as a gambler is to have control of yourself. Or unless the gambler himself was motivated by financial problems, i.e losing job, no money to play in a casino. And if we don't want to enter that territory, then avoid excessive and aggressive gambling.
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May 04, 2020, 09:00:02 AM
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I don't think the casino will be added that feature in the members account because they don't care about limiting the money to be used in gambling. When people decide to play gambling, they need to know about how to limit their money so they can avoid the loss of their money. They can also remember that they need to control themselves while they are playing gambling because the casino or gambling website don't want to know about that. The gambling site only knows that they can make money from the gamblers.

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May 04, 2020, 09:08:52 AM
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I believe this is time for demanding such limiting feature from the all our crypto gambling houses.

I'm sorry but I think you are lost here, why would they allow this feature when it will only limit their income.
As a gambler, we should already be aware the risk, let us not expect that the gambling site will just baby sit us when we are playing .

This is business, they are profit oriented so they would not mind what you are feeling or what you are going through.
gambling addiction is cause by your lack of discipline, gambling sites cannot be blame on this, and besides, we are not force to gamble, they cannot make a feature just to benefit the few but would result to a decreases of their profitability.

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May 04, 2020, 10:11:51 AM
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It's a bad habit of mine that I cannot stop.
Whenever I win something even just a little bit of the bet I cannot stop being aggressive and trying to bet more thinking luck is on my side.

Excitement is also there of course, when combined the next decision will go wrong.
Trying to control it but I guess that is just pure emotion of being happy for having a win.

The longer you stay in a casino, the higher the chances you'll lose everything, and that's a hundred percent proven and tested. No matter how lucky you think you were, you'll always end up lossing everything If you keep betting your winnings. I know, that a little too hard to control once you have the momentum, but It's harder to accept the outcome once you lost the amount of winning that you supposed to take home. That's where addiction and obsession in winning will take place, and once you're hooked to it, that's a hard habit to break.

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May 04, 2020, 10:34:45 AM
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A limiting feature but not a total limitation I guess? because gamblers have their own choices to be made, whether to retrieve their losses or to stop gambling because they already lost allot. Well, A feature that is some sort of just a reminder will help but when it becomes a thing to totally block the gambler to play just because they already reach the programmed limits, it isn't fair for the side of the online house and in some sense, not fair for the side of the gambler who wishes to recover their losses despite of knowing the consequence of not stopping.
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May 04, 2020, 10:46:08 AM
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Great idea but I don't think it will work well there's nothing to lose if we try. Anyway, IMO this kind of limitation stuff should be a personal problem that should be addressed personally. Online houses are apparently doesn't have anythig to do with it. Addiction in some way can be resolve by a little initiation of practice of setting time to stop till it become a habit. It sounded easy yet really hard but it can really be done by simply doing it. That's how simple it is, that it doesn't even require someone's interruption. Or if possible, you could've set up your boundary, like some sort of pc/gadgets will automaticallly shutdown at a certain time, this is just an idea but if it were to exist then why bother someone if you could do it alone. Atleast by this, you'll be forced to wait that might lead to sudden shift of you attention else where.
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May 04, 2020, 11:06:58 AM
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Well said, everything has its own limit, we should not focus on something that would not make us a better person, just like gambling we should not spend our whole time on gambling because at the end of the day it is not good at all because the worst thing you may have by doing that is you may become addicted on it and it will destroy your life if you become you compulsive gambler by playing so many times in one day.

We should do something productive instead of gambling, there are many things we can do like spending our time with our family and friends, learning new things, reading some news or reading some articles about cryptocurrency. Just like me, I am not spending much of my time gambling because I want to become more familiar in cryptocurrency so I always read some articles about it.
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