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May 11, 2020, 02:55:52 PM
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The main problem here is that some people initiate lies and defamation campaign against other members to join the Chipmixer/Fortunejack etc. which is high paid signature campaign. They created a gang within the forum, and some of the default trust members are not trusted. These people are harming BTT users who love Bitcoin and the Bitcoin ecosystem for their own benefit. Everyone knows very well what's going on here. They can give you a red trust to ruin your reputation by using their endless ALT account pool because $100-450 in a week enough to fuck this forum. It is not about race or personalities.. It’s about the sig-GANGS.

f-r-a-u-d-s-t-e-r-s.

need a revolution for justice to triumph

Waste of time. The mf-cker gangs the authority here. Everyone already know that but puppies want to join high-paid sig camps, and they are licking and licking. Dishonorable hookers just doing a blow.
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May 11, 2020, 02:59:14 PM
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The main problem here is that some people initiate lies and defamation campaign against other members to join the Chipmixer/Fortunejack etc. which is high paid signature campaign. They created a gang within the forum, and some of the default trust members are not trusted. These people are harming BTT users who love Bitcoin and the Bitcoin ecosystem for their own benefit. Everyone knows very well what's going on here. They can give you a red trust to ruin your reputation by using their endless ALT account pool because $100-450 in a week enough to fuck this forum. It is not about race or personalities.. It’s about the sig-GANGS.

f-r-a-u-d-s-t-e-r-s.

need a revolution for justice to triumph

Waste of time. The mf-cker gangs the authority here. Everyone already know that but puppies want to join high-paid sig camps, and they are licking and licking. Dishonorable hookers just doing a blow.

just need do what say wolwoo) it not wasting time
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May 11, 2020, 03:02:48 PM
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However, Darkstar_ can make a gesture by taking at least one Turkish member.
Why should there even be one "token" member?  I think DarkStar_ ought to continue to accept only the best posters (and the most reputable ones) and not give in to this absurd nationalistic crusade you've been promulgating.




Chipmixer Campaign Representation on Local Boards (as of today):

German: 3-4

Arabic: at least 3

Indonesian: at least 3

French: 3-4

Russian: 2-3

Spanish: 1-2

Turkish: absolute 0

why not? Do you have a problem with the Turks?
I did not say that you must take it
Why are we on this issue of national quotas again? It's more discriminatory to categorize users based on some identifiable trait to satisfy your statistical hubris.

Do you know how horrible it would be if ChipMixer implemented a quota: "looks like we don't have enough Turkish people on the signature - time to add some more!"

That isn't equality. That's pity.

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The main problem here is that some people initiate lies and defamation campaign against other members to join the Chipmixer/Fortunejack etc. which is high paid signature campaign. They created a gang within the forum, and some of the default trust members are not trusted. These people are harming BTT users who love Bitcoin and the Bitcoin ecosystem for their own benefit. Everyone knows very well what's going on here. They can give you a red trust to ruin your reputation by using their endless ALT account pool because $100-450 in a week enough to fuck this forum. It is not about race or personalities.. It’s about the sig-GANGS.

f-r-a-u-d-s-t-e-r-s.

need a revolution for justice to triumph

Waste of time. The mf-cker gangs the authority here. Everyone already know that but puppies want to join high-paid sig camps, and they are licking and licking. Dishonorable hookers just doing a blow.

just need do what say wolwoo) it not wasting time

I gave this gang a distrust, but others have to give it too. Users are afraid and ignore this gang because they want to participate in the signature campaigns... What a shame. Bitcointalk.org - Signaturetalk.org
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May 11, 2020, 04:43:59 PM
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Why are we on this issue of national quotas again? It's more discriminatory to categorize users based on some identifiable trait to satisfy your statistical hubris.

(Vispilio's warning: hideous strawman follows)

Do you know how horrible it would be if ChipMixer implemented a quota: "looks like we don't have enough Turkish people on the signature - time to add some more!"

That isn't equality. That's pity.






No one except some complicit "salaried employees" of the Chipmixer bounty who like to preserve their lazy milking of forum driven resources are mentioning racism, nationalism or persecution of any kind.

For all the independent and intellectual observers checking this thread out, please read the arguments carefully, and identify the pattern of laughable diversionary tactics where the nepotist DT clique will trip over themselves time and again to derail the definitively proven cases of corruption and defamation surrounding Chipmixer selections.

Already 2 impostor threads going on in the vain hopes of diluting the irrefutable facts presented here, it's embarrassing to see how low some veteran members who were previously thought be respectable pillars of the community can sink to stay on the Chipmixer payroll...

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May 11, 2020, 05:23:54 PM
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No one except some complicit "salaried employees" of the Chipmixer bounty who like to preserve their lazy milking of forum driven resources are mentioning racism, nationalism or persecution of any kind.

You might want to rethink this statement unless wolwoo got secretly hired by Chipmixer. The first mention of racism in this thread was this:

There are many valuable members in the bitcointalk.org
I will not apply for this signature, I don't think if I will be accepted even if I apply
However, Darkstar_ can make a gesture by taking at least one Turkish member.
But i don't want other people in the world to be injured because of this racist attack
Even if it is not, it may throw a message condemning @Lauda

I hope it will be a fair choice, Good luck to everyone
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 #47

No one except some complicit "salaried employees" of the Chipmixer bounty who like to preserve their lazy milking of forum driven resources are mentioning racism, nationalism or persecution of any kind.

You might want to rethink this statement unless wolwoo got secretly hired by Chipmixer. The first mention of racism in this thread was this:

There are many valuable members in the bitcointalk.org
I will not apply for this signature, I don't think if I will be accepted even if I apply
However, Darkstar_ can make a gesture by taking at least one Turkish member.
But i don't want other people in the world to be injured because of this racist attack
Even if it is not, it may throw a message condemning @Lauda

I hope it will be a fair choice, Good luck to everyone
Where is racism in this
I just said good wishes
I said not to be unfair because of the racist attack.
I did not apply for signature
Is it racist to want to see a Turkish member in the signature
I wish everyone good luck

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The main problem here is that some people initiate lies and defamation campaign against other members to join the Chipmixer/Fortunejack etc. which is high paid signature campaign. They created a gang within the forum, and some of the default trust members are not trusted. These people are harming BTT users who love Bitcoin and the Bitcoin ecosystem for their own benefit. Everyone knows very well what's going on here. They can give you a red trust to ruin your reputation by using their endless ALT account pool because $100-450 in a week enough to fuck this forum. It is not about race or personalities.. It’s about the sig-GANGS.

f-r-a-u-d-s-t-e-r-s.

This 100%

I originally believed darkstar was okay. He does speak as a fair and sensible member at times.  

However his actions demonstrate he must be complicit with this scheme.

I mean really how much sense does it make to have meta board full of chipmixer spammers sometimes 6 or more of the same banners all being paid out to advertise on the same page on a tiny sub board with no traffic.?

Funny how these people he is hiring are all pals. Cycling merits together I mean if you look at their top 20 fans and recipients they are stacked with each others names ? They are include each other on DT.

So then darkstar comes along and says oh look brilliant posters because they have lots of merit  ( they gave each other )
And they are trusted ( by each by each other )

Lol when you see collusion like this that generally is  a clear sign they are greedy and not at all trustworthy.

The longer darkstar hides away the more he looks afraid to explain his decisions.

Why is he employing a ton of scammer supporting shit posters with no achievements that are openly colluding and gaming the systems here? He is paying people to a abuse other members trust and in effect paying them to crush free speech here.
This must be stopped.

There are a couple of exceptions, but most fit the description above clearly.

Campaign managers are responsible for sponsoring scumbags and they will bring disrepute on their projects.

Doesnt matter if they collude to have perfect trust scores because if I find dirt on them I will be making sure it sticks to them and the project sponsoring them. Nothign wrong with punishing scammer supporters and those that knowingly sponsor such scum.

Best to make 100% sure you employ squeaky clean individuals not rely on bogus " trust ratings" they award themselves.


What a shock...those wearing chipmixer are claiming the selection process is faultless and there needs be no accountability or transparency.

I support chipmixer the service. They are a brilliant service. I reject them paying scumbags and scammer supporters to destroy the free speech of this forum 
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Actually that is kind of the whole point of the trust system.

No, its not, at all...

Trust lists

 - If you find someone who has sent accurate trust actions and has no inaccurate/inappropriate trust actions, add them to your trust list. Inclusion in trust lists is a more a mark of useful contributions than your trust in them, though at least a little trust is necessary.

You are not basing your inclusions on this criteria. You are basing them on

1. their willingness to include you, and
2. who has excluded them from their trust lists.

This kind of mindset has led to scammers, banned users and users who blatantly misuse the trust system being added to DT.

Actually, it is. There are supposed to be counterbalancing forces within the trust system, that is the entire point of implementing it as opposed to just having Theymos unilaterally decide who is on it.

We have been over your baseless smearing and mind reading act several times and when pressed to substantiate your claims, you have no evidence other than your assumptions that any of that is true. You already publlicly admitted your accusations are based on your assumptions.



Not at all. You have every much a right to include who you want as I do to assume you were fishing for reciprocal inclusions.



You continue to assert you some how know what my internal thoughts and motivations are as if you are Ms. Cleo. Additionally basing ones inclusions and exclusions on ones on judgement of the validity of their own trust list is exactly what you are advocating, you just want it to be your trust list picks. I think you and your red nose red ass buddies are using the trust system inappropriately, and I see no evidence that these people are using it inappropriately, thus I think you should be counterbalanced with their inclusion.


I have seen reliable evidence presented against almost none of these people

It's literally in the post you're replying to:

Add me to your trust list and I'll add you
Give me feedback and I'll give you

I'm quite impressed with the lengths you go to in order to deny reality.


I never included wolwoo, but I am not really that impressed with the lengths you go to to manufacture reality.

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Funny how these people he is hiring are all pals. Cycling merits together I mean if you look at their top 20 fans and recipients they are stacked with each others names ? They are include each other on DT.

So then darkstar comes along and says oh look brilliant posters because they have lots of merit  ( they gave each other )
And they are trusted ( by each by each other )

Think about it for the minute.

ChipMixer(as far as I know) is the highest paying campaign right now. Not sure about you, but what if a good amount of merits are revolving around ChipMixer members because they're actually good posters, hence they deserved to receive merits? I've been lurking for months and I have noticed that most if not all of them are actually great posters.

And it's not like their merits are only from their fellow ChipMixer members in the first place.

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Actually that is kind of the whole point of the trust system.

No, its not, at all...

Trust lists

 - If you find someone who has sent accurate trust actions and has no inaccurate/inappropriate trust actions, add them to your trust list. Inclusion in trust lists is a more a mark of useful contributions than your trust in them, though at least a little trust is necessary.

You are not basing your inclusions on this criteria. You are basing them on

1. their willingness to include you, and
2. who has excluded them from their trust lists.

This kind of mindset has led to scammers, banned users and users who blatantly misuse the trust system being added to DT.

Actually, it is. There are supposed to be counterbalancing forces within the trust system, that is the entire point of implementing it as opposed to just having Theymos unilaterally decide who is on it.

Sure, "counterbalancing forces." The force you are part of is those who base their trust inclusions on selfish motivations that have nothing to do with insuring proper use of the trust system.

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Sure, "counterbalancing forces." The force you are part of is those who base their trust inclusions on selfish motivations that have nothing to do with insuring proper use of the trust system.

That is your own interpretation of reality, everyone is wrong other than you.
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May 12, 2020, 05:39:45 AM
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Why are we on this issue of national quotas again? It's more discriminatory to categorize users based on some identifiable trait to satisfy your statistical hubris.

(Vispilio's warning: hideous strawman follows)

Do you know how horrible it would be if ChipMixer implemented a quota: "looks like we don't have enough Turkish people on the signature - time to add some more!"

That isn't equality. That's pity.

No one except some complicit "salaried employees" of the Chipmixer bounty who like to preserve their lazy milking of forum driven resources are mentioning racism, nationalism or persecution of any kind.
This was relevant in the previous thread from which that quote arose. Context is important here.
With the gravitas focused on the lack of Turkish members in the CM campaign, one might imagine possible reasons.

If it is possible for a member of non-Turk origin to post higher-quality content or perhaps content more stringent to CM's requirements/desires, then it is possible for them to be accepted over a Turkish member. You can even replace "Turk/Turkish" with any categorization you want.

Hence, how is it so difficult to believe that in some specific moment in time, members of an identifiable group that are participating in the ChipMixer campaign equal zero?

It's much stranger to deny the possibility of rejection and jump to outlandish conclusions. Before any accusations that involve my own account with some "gang" I would recommend looking at the lack of activity I've had over the past few months. I disagree with many DT members and have countered a variety of negative ratings from familiar names. I doubt that many people would think that I'm solely here for the campaign funds. Roll Eyes

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This was relevant in the previous thread from which that quote arose. Context is important here.
With the gravitas focused on the lack of Turkish members in the CM campaign, one might imagine possible reasons.

If it is possible for a member of non-Turk origin to post higher-quality content or perhaps content more stringent to CM's requirements/desires, then it is possible for them to be accepted over a Turkish member. You can even replace "Turk/Turkish" with any categorization you want.

Hence, how is it so difficult to believe that in some specific moment in time, members of an identifiable group that are participating in the ChipMixer campaign equal zero?

It's much stranger to deny the possibility of rejection and jump to outlandish conclusions. Before any accusations that involve my own account with some "gang" I would recommend looking at the lack of activity I've had over the past few months. I disagree with many DT members and have countered a variety of negative ratings from familiar names. I doubt that many people would think that I'm solely here for the campaign funds. Roll Eyes

Fair questions, and if you've been absent from the forum for a couple of months you might have missed the reasons why Turkish section and Turkic audiences are a critically strategic zone for any crypto business, especially owing to concentrated obfuscation efforts by the DT salary clique Wink.

If you just brush up on some of the independent surveys mentioned in that previous thread you were quoting along with some of my previous comments (or even intra-forum statistics like this one), you will find the answers to most of your questions regarding Turkish markets.

In fact I'll take it a step further, if you ask the ChipMixer organization today: "Is it a priority for you to be visible to audiences in and around the Turkish sphere of influence?",

I can bet you an unlimited amount of BTC the answer will be a resounding "YES", and they will promptly do so, if @theymos and @Darkstar_ can let this forum take a breath of fresh air outside the yoke of the band of criminals that are hell bent on ruining this place with their nepotism and little mafia games...

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May 12, 2020, 02:51:47 PM
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if you ask the ChipMixer organization today: "Is it a priority for you to be visible to audiences in and around the Turkish sphere of influence?",

I can bet you an unlimited amount of BTC the answer will be a resounding "YES", and they will promptly do so, if @theymos and @Darkstar_ can let this forum take a breath of fresh air outside the yoke of the band of criminals that are hell bent on ruining this place with their nepotism and little mafia games...

it seems to me that you have problems with chipmixer and with the campaign manager maybe because he still hasn't accepted you in the campaign, I spent 1 hour reading a post from the Turkish Local to try to understand what is the problem and I can't see any problem. the campaign manager choose people for the quality of their post ( I saw people in the Turkish Local who are participating in signature campaigns )

and I saw something interesting in the Turkish Local:



is a Full Member avatar and from what I saw he only posts on your local board Grin

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May 13, 2020, 03:07:23 AM
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I do not support bringing in nationalities, neither to support your points or claim discrimination; nor to abuse in a racist manner, but if allegations of racism are piled upon; then retorting in racially charged overtones does retrospectively justify the charges of racist profiling and targetting.

I hv left a neg and hope others who do not endorse racism follow suit too.


P.S. As far as promos and campaigns do, in my experience many companies welcome such individual for they grab eyeballs, even if it is in a wrong way.
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Funny how these people he is hiring are all pals. Cycling merits together I mean if you look at their top 20 fans and recipients they are stacked with each others names ? They are include each other on DT.

So then darkstar comes along and says oh look brilliant posters because they have lots of merit  ( they gave each other )
And they are trusted ( by each by each other )

Think about it for the minute.

ChipMixer(as far as I know) is the highest paying campaign right now. Not sure about you, but what if a good amount of merits are revolving around ChipMixer members because they're actually good posters, hence they deserved to receive merits? I've been lurking for months and I have noticed that most if not all of them are actually great posters.

And it's not like their merits are only from their fellow ChipMixer members in the first place.

Lol please. Produce the 10 best original thought provoking posts from thepharmacist that made any difference here?

Same for most of these " great posters" they are shitposting brain dead imbeciles.  Why do they have no major achievements here?
Are they devs ..what novel designs have they created ? What huge scams have they brought down?  Where are the huge compensation offers they forced scams to get offer the forum? Where are their predictions that made other members into millionaires?

One member smashed every argument they ever put forth to support the broken systems of control they are gaming.
One member or a couple of members  crushed their skulls daily for a year and they could not debunk even one of his/ their central points even once?

Oh wait ? Their posts a stacked with scammer supporting,  colluding and sneaking around snitching for minor shit.
Their posts are garbage hence why they were crushed in every single debate against superior and super achieving members.

Want to debunk these points go ahead. You will fail

As I said there are a couple of good posters that are not outright scammer supporting idiots

Lol at your post. Their merits come from each other. Their trust includes come from each other.  Their exclusions are very similar. They are all mostly on chipmixer.

Take a look at their merit fans and recipients. Haha the top 20 would be full of each other and I mean full.

I see a chipmixer banner I pretty much know the post will be a pile of shit if it is in meta or has any relation to board politics.
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So much drama because Visipilio has an imagined reality where if it was not for JollyGood and Lauda, there would only be Turkish members in the ChipMixer campaign. No matter how much you try to wrap your intentions in words of unity. justice. nationalism etc etc., it is amply clear to anyone who follows your posts since the Yobit days that you think about money above all. Even in your local threads, you guys keep talking about the Fortune Jack campaign and Chipmixer campaign.

You seem to think that everyone's aim here at the forum is to get into the ChipMixer campaign. You also seem to think that a host of other local users that were chosen ended up there because of help from some "DT clique" or something. You go on to blame LoyceV, suchmoon and everyone.

I posted on your local thread and was apparently referred to as "another tail account" or something. You are infecting the whole Turkish community with this imagined paranoia as well as calls to nationalism etc. All this for the imagined insults and imagined entitlement to the "Lucrative signature bounties" or whatever you call these.

Edit: Why do you keep insisting that some meritocratic members are being left out of the CM campaign because of someone else's intervention. Most of the old members in that campaign have already been there for a long time. Several members from other nationalities find place in the long running campaigns. Why do you insist that someone is trying to keep Turkish members out of these?
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So much drama because Visipilio has an imagined reality where if it was not for JollyGood and Lauda, there would only be Turkish members in the ChipMixer campaign. No matter how much you try to wrap your intentions in words of unity. justice. nationalism etc etc., it is amply clear to anyone who follows your posts since the Yobit days that you think about money above all. Even in your local threads, you guys keep talking about the Fortune Jack campaign and Chipmixer campaign.

You seem to think that everyone's aim here at the forum is to get into the ChipMixer campaign. You also seem to think that a host of other local users that were chosen ended up there because of help from some "DT clique" or something. You go on to blame LoyceV, suchmoon and everyone.

I posted on your local thread and was apparently referred to as "another tail account" or something. You are infecting the whole Turkish community with this imagined paranoia as well as calls to nationalism etc. All this for the imagined insults and imagined entitlement to the "Lucrative signature bounties" or whatever you call these.

Edit: Why do you keep insisting that some meritocratic members are being left out of the CM campaign because of someone else's intervention. Most of the old members in that campaign have already been there for a long time. Several members from other nationalities find place in the long running campaigns. Why do you insist that someone is trying to keep Turkish members out of these?

Many of your points are clearly bogus.
There is observably a merit cycling self appointing DT that colluded to maintain grasp over lucrative rev streams here

Please stop pretending it is not there for anyone to observe

Or do you expect us to believe these peoples top merit fans and recipients are all stacked with each other, they all include each other on DT and mostly exclude the same group and most are on the highest paying sig campaigns.

I don't think there is a racial motive for excluding Turkish members but simply the current colluding group fear the cohesion of the turkish community.

There is no good reason to exclude some of the better turkish posters. I certainly would not accept they are less trustworthy than the likes of marlboroza , thepharmacist or any other of these willful scammer supporters.
There are some very undeniably greedy members on chipmixer.

I would suggest doing more research you are only new here young grasshopper.

Never seek to label important truths as drama. That is untrustworthy.
Never seek to lecture on greed specifically if you wear a gambling sig.

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Many of your points are clearly bogus.
There is observably a merit cycling self appointing DT that colluded to maintain grasp over lucrative rev streams here

Please stop pretending it is not there for anyone to observe

Or do you expect us to believe these peoples top merit fans and recipients are all stacked with each other, they all include each other on DT and mostly exclude the same group and most are on the highest paying sig campaigns.
I don't want you to believe anything. They are bogus to you and a particular group of envious assholes out here. These are the same kind of people who begrudge that early adopters of BTC got rich. These are the kind of people that just won't do anything useful themselves but will try to bring down those who actually do. You think there is a merit cycle which is observable?? Fucking bullshit!! People like you and Visipilio wax eloquent and misguide newbies in believing that odds are stacked against them in the forum. Fuck you all.

Show me one guy in there that you think does not deserve merit?? You think LoyceV doesn't?? You think Lauda doesn't?? Or suchmoon doesn't??  Do you have any fucking idea how much work it takes to put up a setup where you can reliably scrape comments, merit history and come up with all that data and present it. How much work it is to maintain a reliable escrow business with the level of OpSec so you can be trusted not to be hacked?? How much work it is to try to put some semblance of decentralized authority on the forum following all the rules, reading both sides of the argument and unbiasedly maintaining a persistent stand. Look at people like iasenko, mikeywith (mining section), Heisenberg_Hunter, ncl50c, Hhampuz. What kind of coding work have YOU done, if any??Just crying here like babies all day, all night about how those who only want to be negative don't get merit and signature campaigns. What a fucking joke!! You guys have an axe to grind even against the likes of nullius. Have you even wondered how much effort must go into making those posts, in contrast to ramblings from the like of you, or even me??? To you, What nullius writes may seem like rambling because he is speaking AGAINST you, but he puts references, anchor points, Memes, GIFs what not, into humungously long-ass posts. His technical posts are on another level. If you think there are some undeserving merit holders in that,C'mon, lets point them out..

I'll tell you the most that you can point to is people like me. I only try to be constructive towards the bitcoin ecosystem in general. I read on the latest about bitcoin. Sometimes, I get involved in the drama and write extensive posts like this one based on my own interpretation of what a meritocracy should look like. Sometimes i get frustrated about merit. Sometimes i make posts about how you have to be continuously involved to get merit. Yet, I don't go and try to spread conspiracy theories about people who have 2000 merit while I only have something like 300ish. I don't think i deserve 1000 merit just because i agree with these people. I think the day i find enough time and knowledge to contribute to the actual bitcoin ecosystem and then start documenting it here, I WILL get those merits. I have no desire to get into some "lucrative" campaign ASAP.   It is natural for me to think that merit/ money/ recognition/ DT1 etc are not the end-all, be-all of my presence here. Those are simply the side-effects of doing good work and that is how I want them to be.

It is envious, lazy people who prefer to be negative and focus on conspiracy theories. The forum is chock full of members who have "observably and demonstrably" contributed to the forum and reached legendary as well as DT1, DT2. Look at the recent additions from Indonesian and filipino locals. Unfortunately, there also are people who want to be extra smart by farming merit, using alt-accounts, calling their uncles and cousins and everyone to put their greedy beaks into this forum to earn bounties and "lucrative" signature campaigns. And when they get called out for it, instead of taking it up with staff or the person who tagged them, they try to teach everyone about justice, unity, equality, morality. Fuck you all politicians. The world is not fucking equal. The people who KNOW code, understand bitcoin security, wallet code are not at the same as level as these cry-babies who cannot write one complete sentence in coherent English or differentiate between bubble-sort and merge-sort. Yes, good english unfortuantely, is a requirement to understand most of modern science (unless you are Japanese or Korean, another set of God-level races, I don't count Chinese in there because they are fucking IP thiefs).

You are all just negative, envious haters who shy away from putting effort in actually contributing. People like you just want to convince themselves and others that "Others are not better than me, Its just they have an unfair advantage".

I don't think there is a racial motive for excluding Turkish members but simply the current colluding group fear the cohesion of the turkish community.

Ohh yeah?? Thanks for your confirmation. Now tell your own young padawans and these people you seem to support, to stop misguiding newbies in their own locals. Its no use trying to get some kind of revolution going against an "enemy group" here on the forum that all Turkish members have to unite against.

There is no good reason to exclude some of the better turkish posters. I certainly would not accept they are less trustworthy than the likes of marlboroza , thepharmacist or any other of these willful scammer supporters.
There are some very undeniably greedy members on chipmixer.
Nobody thinks they are less trustworthy except for the ones who tend to go off the rails when an issue is raised against them. I would be very happy to see anyone from there get into the campaign if they have good enough quality. A negative trust against a person should not be taken as some sort of war on ones personal worth. If you have done nothing wrong, it can always be sorted with the person concerned. The whole "Turkish" issue has arisen out of the trust ratings of just one or two people. Instead of settling it with those who gave it to them, they want to slyly project this as some sort of DT1 conspiracy to hold power. Why don't these people have glaring positive trust from their own community involving transactions of tens of BTC if they are as trustworthy as they claim to be???

As far as members being greedy on CM are concerned, that is also your personal judgement. I have seen several people who don't post 50 posts. The ones who do are mostly those actually contributing to the forum and spending significant time here. If you think they are just doing it for the sake of it, several of them keep getting removed.

In any case, What the fuck is the big deal about Chipmixer campaign??? Its a fucking advertisement which pays well. It is not supposed to be some sort of stamp of approval that the CM campaign members should have to strive to fulfill all the time. By its very nature and due to Darkstars_ judgement, there are some very good members there.

I would suggest doing more research you are only new here young grasshopper.

Never seek to label important truths as drama. That is untrustworthy.
Never seek to lecture on greed specifically if you wear a gambling sig.
Please don't be condescending. I may not have followed the drama but it is easy to judge your "beliefs" and "thought process" from the kind of people you guys have targeted in your posts. I have seen enough of this jealous, envious kind in real life. The kind who just want to chip away on an existing structure rather than try to build something themselves. I can only LOL at your stupid attempt to chastise me for "wearing a gambling sig". Its a fucking advertisement. By that logic, there should be no endorsement of alcohol/ cigarettes/ cold drinks etc etc for their potentially dangerous effects and those who do it should hang their heads in shame.
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