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Welcome to our new official Coinomize Bitcointalk Thread!
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https://coinomize.biz
https://coinomize.co
https://coinomize.is


Our Tor Domain (Recommend to use):

New V3: http://coino2q64k4fg3lkjsnhjeydzwykw22a56u5nf2rdfzkjuy3jbwvypqd.onion
Old one: http://coinomthajerbtq7.onion


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http://t.me/coinomize

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coino-mize.com / coinomize.bz / coinomize.cc / coinomize.net / coinomqrds5ti77r.onion!



OUR ORIGINAL DOMAINS:
coinomize.biz / coinomize.is / coinomize.co / coinomthajerbtq7.onion


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Our Android App:

We released some times ago our brand new Android App.
This can be downloaded from our website (Footer) and from now on you can mix your Bitcoins from anywhere. We recommend to use additional an VPN for higher protection.



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Why use an Bitcoin tumbler/mixer/blender?

Using bitcoins is an excellent way to remain anonymous when making purchases, donations and payments.
But Bitcoin transactions are never really anonymous.
Bitcoin activities are recorded and are publicly available through the blockchain.

Currently, there are also companies and tools available to track them back to you.
With Coinomize you make all your Bitcoins untraceable, without any logs.


How does Coinomize work?

A user sends his Bitcoins to one of our pools and nodes and we mix it with the coins of other users and send him back clean coins.
Some of the Bitcoins we send are 100% clean, not from other users and have nothing to do with Coinomize, depending on the fees you choose. Higher Fees = Cleaner Coins.
We also select our nodes randomly and mix them with each other to ensure even better anonymity.
This makes it impossible to trace back your transaction.


Clean Bitcoins in very simple steps:

1. Visit one of our domains.
2. Enter your Coinomize code (optional) and up to 5 output addresses.
3. Select sending delay time and fees
4. Make a deposit and wait for your clean coins.


Coinomize is still in beta (Expected until August 2020) and if you have suggestions for improvement, just open a support ticket.


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How to Mix Bitcoins with Coinomize:





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Some Features:

- Referral Program (40% Commission)
- Instant mixing (Automated)
- Choose your own Fee: 1-5 % + 0.0003 BTC
- Only 1 Confirmation required
- Minimum Amount: 0.0015 BTC
- Letter of Guarantee
- Flexible delay time (instant - 72 hours)
- Up to 5 Output Addresses
- Modern Design
- Android App
- Tor Access
- No Logs
- Available in 11 Languages


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1. What logs are kept by Coinomize?

We only store the logs that are required for your order and only as long as your order is valid.
We delete all orders after 24-72 hours (Depending on choosen delay time.), but you can also delete it by yourself.
Please always download the Letter of Guarantee for later questions.



2. How can I contact you if I have any questions or problems?

Simply create a support ticket and we will respond as soon as possible.
Usually in just a few hours, but within 24 hours at the latest.
We want to offer you the best possible support and answer always any Tickets or comments.


3.What is the Coinomize Code?

After your first mixing on Coinomize, you will receive a unique code.
With this code, we make sure that you never get back your own coins from previous transactions.
Just use it for all your next Mixing Orders.


4.How long does the bitcoin mixing process take?

This depends on how long your time delay was chosen.
Also how fast are the Blockchain is.
Its not takes longer as 24 - 72 hours.



5.What is a Letter of Guarantee?

This guarantees that the displayed Bitcoin address is from our servers.
Please download it and check it before you send Bitcoins to us.
You also need this to contact our support about a transaction. Without them, we can not help you for transactions.
This Letter of Guarantee also provides you a proof of each transaction made on our website.


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We have also planned to add new Cryptocurrencies in the near future. You can vote for it on our Mixing Page.




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We wanted to wait a little longer with our thread to further improve our website, but we were now forced to do so by a fake scam posting.
For this reason we offer you a Letter of Guarantee to verify your transactions.

Everyone can form their own opinion after testing our service.



Haters Gonna Hate!


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Your fee is 1% to 5%. How this fee is distributed? More BTC we send you for mixing less will be its fee or its vice versa?
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I had a quick look, and at first glance i noticed following issues:
  • Cloudflare's SSL is acting as a MITM
  • The link to the google play store is just linking to an apk outside of the play store. That's very deceptive
  • Missing security headers: Content-Security-Policy, Feature-Policy
  • Loads of thirth party scripts, including but not limited to google analytics

I know, i'm wearing a competitor's signature... That being said, i do use other services for mixing my coins, but none that are using cloudflare's ssl, are incorrectly labelling links as going to the playstore or mixers that send all my data to google in any way.

Don't get me wrong, i have no idear wether you're a scam or not... But you defenately have a lot of homework to do before you can open your service for business

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Your fee is 1% to 5%. How this fee is distributed? More BTC we send you for mixing less will be its fee or its vice versa?

Thank you for your interest. The fees can be chosen by yourself and remain the same no matter what amount is sent depending on the percentage you have chosen.


I had a quick look, and at first glance i noticed following issues:
  • Cloudflare's SSL is acting as a MITM
  • The link to the google play store is just linking to an apk outside of the play store. That's very deceptive
  • Missing security headers: Content-Security-Policy, Feature-Policy
  • Loads of thirth party scripts, including but not limited to google analytics

I know, i'm wearing a competitor's signature... That being said, i do use other services for mixing my coins, but none that are using cloudflare's ssl, are incorrectly labelling links as going to the playstore or mixers that send all my data to google in any way.

Don't get me wrong, i have no idear wether you're a scam or not... But you defenately have a lot of homework to do before you can open your service for business


Thanks for your Feedback!
There is nothing wrong with using cloudflare. Just use our Tor link for more privacy.
This also protects our site from DDOS attacks and many other attacks and is used by many websites.

Google Play Store of course does not accept this kind of app;)

I think most sites on the WWW use third party scripts to analyze traffic or for marketing. You also need some Tools for Index it, e.g. on Google.

Thanks, solved!

We are happy about an Support Ticket:)

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I like the design of site, not too much irrelevant information. Do you have some innovative feature or its just an ordinary bitcoin mixer?
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There is nothing wrong with using cloudflare.
For non privacy-centric sites, you are correct. However, if you use cloudflare's SSL certificates, cloudflare will be able to decrypt every package sent between your user and your server, since they're a MITM. They decrypt every package, and re-encrypt it with your server's certificate.
Cloudflare is located in the US, a country where any agency can gain access to these logs in a matter of hours.

If you switch to an x3 certificate, your users are immediately safe. letsencrypt is providing these certificates for free...

This also protects our site from DDOS attacks and many other attacks and is used by many websites.
True, but you're trading convenience for privacy...

Google Play Store of course does not accept this kind of app;)
True, but in this case you shouldn't indicate you're sending your visitors to the play store... If the link clearly said you were locally hosting the apk, things would have been ok...

I think most sites on the WWW use third party scripts to analyze traffic or for marketing. You also need some Tools for Index it, e.g. on Google.
Sure, but privacy-centered services like mixers shouldn't... I've use matomo in the past, coupled with anonimised server logs they should do the trick.


Basically, your site sends all information about all visitors to a US based company. If they wanted to track one of your users, they could request all data sent between your user and your server from cloudflare, and all other statistics from google statics. They would end up knowing the funding transactions, the withdrawal transactions, the letter of guarantee, the ip's, the browser fingerprint, where your visitor came from, where your visitor went to

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How much time it takes to process an order and what if I need some support. Whats the response time of your support?
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I like the design of site, not too much irrelevant information. Do you have some innovative feature or its just an ordinary bitcoin mixer?

Thanks Smiley Just check out our Website. We offer an Android App, Modern Design, up to 5 Bitcoin Addresses and a lot more cool things.



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There is nothing wrong with using cloudflare.
For non privacy-centric sites, you are correct. However, if you use cloudflare's SSL certificates, cloudflare will be able to decrypt every package sent between your user and your server, since they're a MITM. They decrypt every package, and re-encrypt it with your server's certificate.
Cloudflare is located in the US, a country where any agency can gain access to these logs in a matter of hours.

If you switch to an x3 certificate, your users are immediately safe. letsencrypt is providing these certificates for free...

This also protects our site from DDOS attacks and many other attacks and is used by many websites.
True, but you're trading convenience for privacy...

Google Play Store of course does not accept this kind of app;)
True, but in this case you shouldn't indicate you're sending your visitors to the play store... If the link clearly said you were locally hosting the apk, things would have been ok...

I think most sites on the WWW use third party scripts to analyze traffic or for marketing. You also need some Tools for Index it, e.g. on Google.
Sure, but privacy-centered services like mixers shouldn't... I've use matomo in the past, coupled with anonimised server logs they should do the trick.


Basically, your site sends all information about all visitors to a US based company. If they wanted to track one of your users, they could request all data sent between your user and your server from cloudflare, and all other statistics from google statics. They would end up knowing the funding transactions, the withdrawal transactions, the letter of guarantee, the ip's, the browser fingerprint, where your visitor came from, where your visitor went to



We do not use Cloudflare because of the SSL certificate.
We've checked a few other Bitcoin mixer websites right now, and yes, most of them use Cloudflare, check for yourself Wink

You can use our Tor link if you do not wish to do so.

You mean the Image where you can Download the app? Anyone see it if there click on it.
It's just a standard picture so people know that it's an Android app.

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How much time it takes to process an order and what if I need some support. Whats the response time of your support?

You determine this time yourself (you can enter any time during the ordering process). One confirmation is required and you must wait for this 1 Blockchain confirmation if you have selected "Instant", for example.

You can open a support ticket on our website and we will answer it within 24 hours.

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We have seen too much scam in the form of Coin Mixers, is this just another scam?
How can I be sure that its not a scam rather a legitimate project where my BTC will be safe? I will use it only if I came to know that it's real and for that I need genuine proofs.
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We do not use Cloudflare because of the SSL certificate.
We've checked a few other Bitcoin mixer websites right now, and yes, most of them use Cloudflare, check for yourself Wink

You can use our Tor link if you do not wish to do so.

You mean the Image where you can Download the app? Anyone see it if there click on it.
It's just a standard picture so people know that it's an Android app.


In my country, we have a relatively popular saying, which roughly translates to:
"if all your friends jump into a well, would you follow them?", it basically means: do you think the fact everybody else is making a mistake is an acceptable excuses to make the mistake yourself?

You are providing a service: you are breaking the link between 2 addresses (and by extension wallets), so nobody can connect funds in one wallet to funds in another wallet. This is handy when you try to have some privacy, to protect you against thieves, against beggers, against your family, against (corrupt) governements. When you use cloudflare, you are giving all cloudflare employees, potential hackers and several 3 letter agencies the "key" to your service. You're allowing them to link your customer's wallets together, and that's not acceptable. Sure, you have a hidden service, but be realistic: how many newbies will actually know the dangers behind cloudflare AND have the technical knowhow to install the tor proxy and use the tor browser?

It doesn't matter if the primary reason for using cloudflare is DDos protection, you're still using cloudflares SSL certificates... If DDos attacks are problematic for you, there are other sollutions (altough, they are commercial, so they're not free... Remember: "if something is free, you are the product")

Every time i see a mixer using cloudflare (and you are right, many of them are using cloudflare) i point this out, and 90% of the time i get the exact same answer as you're giving me... Sure, most mixers make the mistake of including a MITM in their workflow, that still doesn't make this right...

Great mixers don't use cloudflare's ssl or include thirth party scripts. Mixers that do use cloudflare's SSL are good enough to hide how much BTC you own for common thieves, beggers and nosy relatives... But NOT for cybercriminals, cloudflare employees or (corrupt) governements.

I'm going to stop posting here... I've given you enough advise, advise i've given many mixers... It's up to you if you want to say "i use cloudflare, live with it, case closed" or if you want to investigate why using cloudflare and thirth party scripts is actually a bad thing, and make your mixer safer for your customers.

Good luck with your business!

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We have seen too much scam in the form of Coin Mixers, is this just another scam?
How can I be sure that its not a scam rather a legitimate project where my BTC will be safe? I will use it only if I came to know that it's real and for that I need genuine proofs.


All Bitcoin mixers start with no reputation, they can't be considered "trusted" within a week. You already start with a negative attitude.

Secondly, if you need genuine proof test it yourself. That's what a lot of people do with small transactions to see. You can not expect to have people put the spoon on your mouth directly without doing anything. People are so lazy


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To avail your referral program I have to use your service also? If I mix my BTC from your site only then I can avail your referral program or I can use otherwise also.
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We do not use Cloudflare because of the SSL certificate.
We've checked a few other Bitcoin mixer websites right now, and yes, most of them use Cloudflare, check for yourself Wink

You can use our Tor link if you do not wish to do so.

You mean the Image where you can Download the app? Anyone see it if there click on it.
It's just a standard picture so people know that it's an Android app.


In my country, we have a relatively popular saying, which roughly translates to:
"if all your friends jump into a well, would you follow them?", it basically means: do you think the fact everybody else is making a mistake is an acceptable excuses to make the mistake yourself?

You are providing a service: you are breaking the link between 2 addresses (and by extension wallets), so nobody can connect funds in one wallet to funds in another wallet. This is handy when you try to have some privacy, to protect you against thieves, against beggers, against your family, against (corrupt) governements. When you use cloudflare, you are giving all cloudflare employees, potential hackers and several 3 letter agencies the "key" to your service. You're allowing them to link your customer's wallets together, and that's not acceptable. Sure, you have a hidden service, but be realistic: how many newbies will actually know the dangers behind cloudflare AND have the technical knowhow to install the tor proxy and use the tor browser?

It doesn't matter if the primary reason for using cloudflare is DDos protection, you're still using cloudflares SSL certificates... If DDos attacks are problematic for you, there are other sollutions (altough, they are commercial, so they're not free... Remember: "if something is free, you are the product")

Every time i see a mixer using cloudflare (and you are right, many of them are using cloudflare) i point this out, and 90% of the time i get the exact same answer as you're giving me... Sure, most mixers make the mistake of including a MITM in their workflow, that still doesn't make this right...

Great mixers don't use cloudflare's ssl or include thirth party scripts. Mixers that do use cloudflare's SSL are good enough to hide how much BTC you own for common thieves, beggers and nosy relatives... But NOT for cybercriminals, cloudflare employees or (corrupt) governements.

I'm going to stop posting here... I've given you enough advise, advise i've given many mixers... It's up to you if you want to say "i use cloudflare, live with it, case closed" or if you want to investigate why using cloudflare and thirth party scripts is actually a bad thing, and make your mixer safer for your customers.

Good luck with your business!

Thanks for your feedback Smiley If it should be a problem and other people think so too, we will gladly add it to our todo list.

We have seen too much scam in the form of Coin Mixers, is this just another scam?
How can I be sure that its not a scam rather a legitimate project where my BTC will be safe? I will use it only if I came to know that it's real and for that I need genuine proofs.


I think @LeGaulois answered your Question Wink
It is very hard for a new website, we have to fight against fake feedback or scam reports from competitors in the beginning.
I think trust is created over time. You are welcome to test small amounts.


To avail your referral program I have to use your service also? If I mix my BTC from your site only then I can avail your referral program or I can use otherwise also.

No of course not, you only need a Bitcoin address to participate in our partner program. You do not need to place an order on our site.


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"Mixing" is a promising business, although it's the hardest field to get trust.
I had a quick look to the website after reading the full topic here. Op you can consider the following notes:
1- I find it too misleading to have backup domains in work. This would make it easy for thiefs to lunch a phishing copy of the website with another extension. Just one official domain in clearnet would be much more safe so users find it easy to ignore all other extensions. This doesn't deny that it's always effecient to reserve as much domains as you can with all other extensions but not necessarly to activate them or use them as backups.
2- Segwit addresses are not supported. You should consider adding them as number of segwit users growth day by day.
3- What is the "mixing power" slide which move if i change the fee rate?
4- This is the first time i see a mixing service asking for donations.
5- Max to send per order is about 24 btc. Do you have enough reserve to accept simultanious orders with some large amounts? Let's say 4 orders each one with 20 btc, can you proceed them simultaniously?
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"Mixing" is a promising business, although it's the hardest field to get trust.
I had a quick look to the website after reading the full topic here. Op you can consider the following notes:
1- I find it too misleading to have backup domains in work. This would make it easy for thiefs to lunch a phishing copy of the website with another extension. Just one official domain in clearnet would be much more safe so users find it easy to ignore all other extensions. This doesn't deny that it's always effecient to reserve as much domains as you can with all other extensions but not necessarly to activate them or use them as backups.
2- Segwit addresses are not supported. You should consider adding them as number of segwit users growth day by day.
3- What is the "mixing power" slide which move if i change the fee rate?
4- This is the first time i see a mixing service asking for donations.
5- Max to send per order is about 24 btc. Do you have enough reserve to accept simultanious orders with some large amounts? Let's say 4 orders each one with 20 btc, can you proceed them simultaniously?


Thanks for your Comment.

1. Our Default Domain is coinomize.biz, our Site is locked to this 3 Domains + Tor, Sure, you can always make a phishing copy of any page, but I don't think that's a problem, it's not hard to remember our domains and anyone can check our REAL website with the letter of guarantee before sending coins to the input address.

2. Yes, we didn't use them for a reason, but I put them on our to-do list, thanks.

3. We use different nodes in the background. By default, a blender mixes its coins from other coins from other customers. We also offer coins that are not from Coinomize, higher fees = cleaner coins.

4. We dont ask, the most mixers have an donation address in the Footer, check it self Wink


5. Many mixers use fake amounts (I won't mention the names now), but you can't build trust on fake amounts, that's our opinion.

We have different amounts on different nodes, I can't tell you more for privacy reasons. We grow with all of you and can accept higher amounts later. To your question if 4 people order, everyone gets his mixed coins yes, maybe with more time delay if there are more than 4 users, but just at the beginning i dont think anyone sends 20 BTC Wink but good questions like from you help us to improve our service. We will add a message for the users in case there are too many mixes in progress, where the user can't deposit and has to wait an X time. But of course we always get a message immediately if this would happen.


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To Do List :

We will soon publish a page where you can vote for these proposals:

- Accept Segwit addresses = Yes/No
- Remove Cloudflare = Yes/No
- Display message in worst case if limit has been reached. Counter with waiting time until the transaction from other Order was released.


This list is constantly expanding, from new customer ideas and questions here.
This vote link will then be posted here.

Current status of the coin vote (Which we will accept next): ETH & Monero

These changes will probably happen at once then in an update depending on the vote, as it is quite a lot of work.

Do you have an idea to build a system where nobody can be scammed? Maybe display the private key from the input address? Write us your feedback


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Suggestion: remove the self-moderated status from this thread. You're in the trust-business, censoring posts doesn't inspire confidence.
You can remove this by moving (bottom-left) this topic to a board that doesn't support self-moderation (I recommend Archival), then moving it back to this board.

Can you sign a message proving ownership of a substantial amount of Bitcoin (close to the maximum you allow to mix)? This doesn't prove everything, but at least it proves you can do what you promise. I've suggested this to many mixers, but so far none of them ever did this. Feel free to PM the signature, I won't post the address but I will post a confirmation of a signed message if you do this.

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I checked the site and there we can add up to 5 different addresses. My question is this if I want to
mix 0.067 BTC then you will send these coins in small chunks to all these addresses and accumlative
sum of all these will be .067? Let me know if I got it correct.
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 All tumbler doesn't disclose their team member and locality details thats understood. I just wanna ask
you that do you have a team that is capable enough to handle this project? You have a team of expert
that has diverse experience or its just a one man show.
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