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May 31, 2020, 03:19:20 PM
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To be honest, there is almost no difference at all - from the laboratory or from the fact that someone ate a bat.
It was cleared, probably a month ago that was the genetic origin of the Corona virus is happened to be a natural cause. So it means that there is no one responsible for the virus, just like the MERS-COV and SARS.

The only important thing is to make China pay for the fact that it bears the greatest part of the blame for what happened.
I will just agree on this if you are able to provide at least a fact that China did deliberately created the virus to spread across the globe and let the world's economy crippled down. I might be protesting outside the Chinese embassy here if they did so. It's pretty illogical to make pay or hate the country that has seen some health weaknesses such as this one, have you ever said that when MERS-COV is on the run? I think not. No one's to blame after all. We are all get through this, humanity as one.

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According to petrol price increase, seeing more and more people returning to work from office and the return of traffic jams - financial reset has been done. But frankly speaking, based on people that are around me, nothing much really changed. So it is more restart than reset.

Many economists claim that this is just the beginning. We have witnessed a worldwide shutdown through which many businesses went bankrupt, but the ripple effect will continue for a few years. Businesses are connected by a chain. A restaurant will not work like it used to when it had to fire its staff during the pandemic shutdown. Its clients will now come back, taste the food and say that they've been eating there because of the former chef and now it's not the same, so the restaurant will go bankrupt over the next few months, even though it survived the first stage of the pandemic. This is what is understood as the ripple effect.

That is why this restaurant should adopt to situation. Who need a lot of staff during lockdown? If restaurant owner see that taste has changed, less customers visit his place - he need to think about more about his pricing policy. Reduce prices, give some small appetizers as bonuses, make delivery during lockdown. If you cant adopt to situation, there is no place for you in business.

That is why I wrote "restart" - you have "basics" in business, adopt to situation. But restart means stop all and start from the very beginning.

Well, you should look not just around you but look at the bigger picture. People are kicked out of their places because of their incapability of paying since we have no jobs during the quarantine. Even those with and without houses are having problems as well like food shortage and payment bills, a lot has changed and that started with the shortage of supplies of a country.

I dont believe that there is no work around. There is always a work, but some people just don't want to earn less and think that low-level work is not for them. Many times I've seen people who earn, lets say $2000/month, wont go to work where they will earn less than $1500. They would better sit on the ass at home and wait for a highly paid position.

I have friends, who have lost their jobs in cosy offices, and now work as a taxi driver, work in moving or placing goods on store shelves. They do not complain and I give all my respect to them.

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June 01, 2020, 04:25:39 PM
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When this whole story with the virus was just beginning, I thought that if the virus is of artificial origin, then it grew up in the laboratory of the country that will suffer the least. The epidemic is not over yet and it is difficult to draw full conclusions; it is still unknown what will happen after. But for now, it’s obvious that the Chinese were able to quickly orient themselves and take control of the virus.

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It seems to be a strong trigger at least

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June 02, 2020, 09:08:31 PM
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I dont think the virus is the reset itself, pullbacks from natural loss is a given.    Since the beginning of every economy in every country, a failed harvest and other negative events are perfectly natural and regular even.   This is why we save and build spare capacity and even have the market to begin with to trade surplus and demand to the best benefit of both parties and society itself.
   The part that resets is the domination by government in a false market kind of way, the fixed interest rates and other measures which are not market but centralised political measures.  I do see that idea unable to carry on indefinitely so I'm looking for a reduction in dominant features, it doesnt have to be a total reset but big change is my expectation; not really the virus we already knew central banks were off base anyway.

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June 03, 2020, 07:08:49 AM
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The global economy was running out of options for dealing with recession, as major economies headed closer and closer to, or further beyond, the zero bound, engaged in massive stimulus, and continued to create artificial credit bubbles. Fewer and fewer people were expressing confidence in state authorities and their respective central banks. Political unrest - much of which was concerned with economic policy - was manifested in unprecedented fashion via demonstrations worldwide. Decentralized cryptocurrencies like bitcoin were increasingly viewed favorably by a significant segment in the context of centralized corruption, worldwide bailouts, and distrust of leaders, even on mainstream media outlets.

In the middle of the pandemic, there are two camps facing each other in overcoming economic problems, namely through the printing of money instruments or through the issuance of state debt instruments (bonds). Through the issuance of debt securities is a normal instrument taken by a country. Quantitive easing has taken to create inflation so as to prevent the risk of deflation.

The central bank increases the money supply in the market and encourages commercial banks to be willing to disburse loans, both business and consumer, to companies and the public. Usually combined with a decrease in interest rates so that people and companies are encouraged to apply for short-term loans so as to be able to encourage spending and consumption, which means the level of demand or public spending on goods needs is also higher. Due to high demand, production activities are being pushed back to meet these demands.

Thus, the economy began to stretch and move towards the expected stability. QE policy usually instead drags the country into deeper debt gaps. During this pandemic, QE policies were actually expected by the community especially in the form of direct cash benefits. Given the pandemic damage the economic structure.

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June 03, 2020, 08:55:01 AM
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The only important thing is to make China pay for the fact that it bears the greatest part of the blame for what happened.
I will just agree on this if you are able to provide at least a fact that China did deliberately created the virus to spread across the globe and let the world's economy crippled down. I might be protesting outside the Chinese embassy here if they did so. It's pretty illogical to make pay or hate the country that has seen some health weaknesses such as this one, have you ever said that when MERS-COV is on the run? I think not. No one's to blame after all. We are all get through this, humanity as one.

Yes, we don't have to blame anyone because I believe that every country got the effect of the Covid-19, and we still on fighting with the virus. No matter what, China also got the impact for the virus. If we see in the other country, the effect still happens, we need to take a look at how well the people obey the rule to stay at home and how they apply social distancing which already suggested by their government.

But I believe that we all can pass this together, and we can solve the problem together. We will see new dawn soon, and we will see the pandemic will end.

It will not be so easy. At the moment is still too early to predict how deep consequences will be but it's for sure that every country will have damaged economy in some way. However, I think that China will recover a bit faster and better than US and China and thus remain a step ahead.
However, this is an opportunity for restart, reset and changes in the way how economy and finances are functioning. But I don't think that this is really going to happen and this opportunity will remain unused.

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June 03, 2020, 01:23:12 PM
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To be honest, there is almost no difference at all - from the laboratory or from the fact that someone ate a bat.
It was cleared, probably a month ago that was the genetic origin of the Corona virus is happened to be a natural cause. So it means that there is no one responsible for the virus, just like the MERS-COV and SARS.

The only important thing is to make China pay for the fact that it bears the greatest part of the blame for what happened.
I will just agree on this if you are able to provide at least a fact that China did deliberately created the virus to spread across the globe and let the world's economy crippled down. I might be protesting outside the Chinese embassy here if they did so. It's pretty illogical to make pay or hate the country that has seen some health weaknesses such as this one, have you ever said that when MERS-COV is on the run? I think not. No one's to blame after all. We are all get through this, humanity as one.

I suggest you read how it all started. China knew about the virus and hide it until it was too late.
For a couple of months, the Red Brother hid the fact of the pandemic - which has now affected millions of people. And Yes, China should be blamed for what happened because of this. Such negligence should not be forgiven.
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When this whole story with the virus was just beginning, I thought that if the virus is of artificial origin, then it grew up in the laboratory of the country that will suffer the least. The epidemic is not over yet and it is difficult to draw full conclusions; it is still unknown what will happen after. But for now, it’s obvious that the Chinese were able to quickly orient themselves and take control of the virus.

Even the global elites know they can't control everything.  It could well be that this virus was released and made to defeat containment in all major debt-laden countries (as has happened), but then countries competed freely on who could best deal with the virus.  The American elites thought the US would win this contest, and so did the Chinese of themselves.  At least so far, it just seems to be that China happens to have the upper hand.

It seems to make sense: first you make absolutely sure the virus can't be totally beaten at least for years, and then you let each country do its own style of financial reset within that framework.  No matter what happens, the economic pain will be blamed on the virus.  That is the key.

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Another piece of evidence is the Western establishment's brutally effective suppression of what has been discovered to be highly effective, hydroxichloroquine-based (HCQ-based) treatments.

All we hear are bad news about HCQ on Western media, but the following does make you think:

Case Fatality Rates by Country

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This how markets work, crisis like this needs for reset and market cleaning

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Another piece of evidence is the Western establishment's brutally effective suppression of what has been discovered to be highly effective, hydroxichloroquine-based (HCQ-based) treatments.

All we hear are bad news about HCQ on Western media, but the following does make you think:

Case Fatality Rates by Country
huh? I've just read a news last month that HCQ isn't approved to use as an emergency drug against covid, clinical trials says its risks when it is used. FDA already revoke the emergency use authorization from HCQ to CQ. And where do you get that data? It seems like the picture was just posted by you, you cropped it out from an unreliable source and posted it here. Not cool.

They just try the use of HCQ since they suspected it to contain the medicine for covid, but it turns out negative as it shows side effects when used.

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Covid-19 is from China and is said to be derived from bioweapons and until now there is still no real evidence of where it really came from, it is like a big thorn in the throat that until now has not been remove from the blockage. When else can one achieve justice if all witnesses are getting paid? how can we be free from chest tightness? aside from that why this person needs to kill someone for a financial reset. actually, if we do not interfere with the activities of this person it can produce another virus that is more than coronavirus.

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July 19, 2020, 09:45:39 PM
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Covid-19 is from China and is said to be derived from bioweapons and until now there is still no real evidence of where it really came from
You just said in this sentence that it came from China and what more evidence do you need. It might be impossible to locate the source of the transmitter to humans but calling it a bio weapon is just bullshit. 

aside from that why this person needs to kill someone for a financial reset. actually, if we do not interfere with the activities of this person it can produce another virus that is more than coronavirus.
Are you talking about the Chinese government ? no one will dare to fight against China as they are financially sound and have nuclear weapons and they are strategically placed. The climate is changing and we are witnessing an evolution of virus and expect more diseases to spread and hope we will learn a good lesson with this pandemic.
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July 19, 2020, 09:59:29 PM
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Covid-19 is from China and is said to be derived from bioweapons and until now there is still no real evidence of where it really came from
You just said in this sentence that it came from China and what more evidence do you need. It might be impossible to locate the source of the transmitter to humans but calling it a bio weapon is just bullshit.  

aside from that why this person needs to kill someone for a financial reset. actually, if we do not interfere with the activities of this person it can produce another virus that is more than coronavirus.
Are you talking about the Chinese government ? no one will dare to fight against China as they are financially sound and have nuclear weapons and they are strategically placed. The climate is changing and we are witnessing an evolution of virus and expect more diseases to spread and hope we will learn a good lesson with this pandemic.
Lots of conspiracies had popped out from nowhere about those possibilities but we cant blame out people not to think yet we know that the first case of Covid19 did really happen in Wuhan,China which we therefore conclude that it do really originated on that place and the rest of other things that people do talk about is just pure presumption and theres no solid evidence to that.So its somewhat pointless on thinking on whose gonna be blamed
on the current global crisis we are facing on. Pharmaceuticals are trying out their best to find the cure or the vaccine.When in talks about Financial reset then im not really that much thinking of that thing
and its really hard to believe on.

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If the economy will totally collapse then maybe there will be a finacial reset but as long as the government contibue to find a way on how to recover and prevent the economic collapse there will be no financial reset. The govetnment will continue to make a way on how to get funds from different sectors.

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July 21, 2020, 05:55:22 PM
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If the economy will totally collapse then maybe there will be a finacial reset but as long as the government contibue to find a way on how to recover and prevent the economic collapse there will be no financial reset. The govetnment will continue to make a way on how to get funds from different sectors.
This is being worked on and the government will continue to improve the economy of the various sects that have been done from before because if the road is not open then the government budget will run out seeing the current situation of a pandemic.
Including China now has begun to grow in their current economy so one by one the company and business has been running normally so this sector will continue to flow and other governments will take action like this.

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Another piece of evidence is the Western establishment's brutally effective suppression of what has been discovered to be highly effective, hydroxichloroquine-based (HCQ-based) treatments.

All we hear are bad news about HCQ on Western media, but the following does make you think:

Case Fatality Rates by Country
huh? I've just read a news last month that HCQ isn't approved to use as an emergency drug against covid, clinical trials says its risks when it is used. FDA already revoke the emergency use authorization from HCQ to CQ. And where do you get that data? It seems like the picture was just posted by you, you cropped it out from an unreliable source and posted it here. Not cool.

They just try the use of HCQ since they suspected it to contain the medicine for covid, but it turns out negative as it shows side effects when used.

The information you list comes from the Western mainstream media.  The biggest news against HCQ was spread by those media recently (about how HCQ has side effects) based on a study published in the Lancet which turned out to use a huge amount of fake data.  The study was retracted by the Lancet.  This is a fact, not conspiracy theory.  Somehow, nobody seems to have heard of the retraction.

There have been other studies not favorable HCQ-based treatment, but a closer look reveals the studies have not been properly designed.  In fact, a few US-government studies in progress today seem to have been designed to fail HCQ.  For details (including links to an overwhelming amount of evidence in favor of HCQ as a very effective treatment, if given as soon as symptoms appear and if used with zinc and/or arithamicyn) see my other threads here and here.

Just like Saddam Hussein stockpiled weapons of mass destruction, or that the economy is on sound footing, when lies are repeated often enough (and with straight-face seriousness in which the Western media excel,) they look like truth.

(BTW, the picture comes from a Twitter user called Gummi Bear.  He's new to me, but judging by his followers, and his and their content, he seems to be a serious deep-diver into the covid medical issues.)

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Covid-19 is from China and is said to be derived from bioweapons and until now there is still no real evidence of where it really came from, it is like a big thorn in the throat that until now has not been remove from the blockage. When else can one achieve justice if all witnesses are getting paid? how can we be free from chest tightness? aside from that why this person needs to kill someone for a financial reset. actually, if we do not interfere with the activities of this person it can produce another virus that is more than coronavirus.

My hypothesis is that it's not one person, but a temporary alliance of China with the top globalists.  This alliance may or may not last.  In the latter case, watch how the West and China will accuse each other of releasing the virus.

Of course, we can't get any direct evidence of such a conspiracy.  We do have a lot of indirect evidence, which is the subject of my threads on this topic.

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July 22, 2020, 02:10:22 AM
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If the economy will totally collapse then maybe there will be a finacial reset but as long as the government contibue to find a way on how to recover and prevent the economic collapse there will be no financial reset. The govetnment will continue to make a way on how to get funds from different sectors.

If the economy collapses on its own, the situation will be less desirable, compared to a controlled reset, from the elites' point of view.  In addition, a controlled reset can blame all the pain on something other than the design of the monetary-financial system (like a virus.)

There is nothing normal or stable about the pre-covid world economy, despite appearances on the surface.  Inequality and instability were reinforcing each other, and each one was getting worse.  The root cause was the design of the money and financial systems, which gave the elites an incentive to use state power to inflate and support asset bubbles, eventually ending up with the pre-covid situation.

(What a reset means, in one way or another, is that total financial asset values will become more equal to the total value of real wealth (goods, services, commodities, etc.) in the world.  This can happen in many possible ways.  Nominal asset values don't even have to come down, if the reset will be inflation-only.  In that case, the values of the financial assets will just carry less purchasing power.  As I mentioned, one way or another, the difference between total asset values and the total prices of real wealth will come much closer to each other.  And this will be a slow, multi-year process, to make sure nothing catastrophic happens.)

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