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May 28, 2020, 01:04:29 PM
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I believe that China is has more economic prowess than US today because of manufacturing power that china can produce and china got more resources. One thing that keeps Trump attacking china because of the alleged of covid-19 was made by china for world economic sabotage that really gave Trump a motive to hate china over and over again. With all this conflict to each nations, they should sit this a side momentarily because we got more powerful enemy we need to eliminate and give more priority to save more lives during this pandemic.

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May 28, 2020, 01:50:06 PM
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China is liable for all this so I feel President Trump will still attack China I feel this is often a really good decision. the results for the entire world for them are that everybody lives in crisis. Not just President Trump but all poisoned presidents should take some action against China. Everything started in China Meanwhile, China has also did not come up with a vaccine and isn't supplying the required pests they're keeping everything secret and conspiring to place the planet in additional crisis.
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May 28, 2020, 06:36:25 PM
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Was this called sinoism or something? The act of saying "china is good" basically, I can't really explain it all that well, nationalism in china? Well, zionism was related to Jewish race but sinoism was same thing but for Chinese I think and not just china. All in all China has nothing to do with USA as much as you think.

China thinks they are so powerful that even USA owes them 1 trillion dollars and "can't pay it back" when in reality USA basically printed out 4.2 trillion dollars just in last 3 months so there is no way they can't pay. And yes USA is doing horrible but attacking china is not the result of that. Trump is a racist person and he is willing to attack anyone, China, Russia, Europe, Canada he attacks basically everyone, because his voters are idiots who love racism as well and that is how he gets votes.

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May 28, 2020, 06:54:29 PM
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US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Because China is so rich that they can buy the entire Africa, they can buy the entire existing technology, they can invest into best new talents, they can invest into 5G, 6G, 7G, they can build the best spaceship with all the income they received from tax money.


Well china has so many issue to face,and maybe that same way why Trump is attacking Them but of course in this situation attacking others is not really needs to be in place because there are so many dying people and sick that needs attention than this one.

for me?let start this kind of conversation once the pandemic ends and not now that we have need helping others first.



@peter0425,

"Them but of course in this situation attacking others is not really needs to be in place because there are so many dying people and sick that needs attention than this one...."   

Atleast, this is one comment that got my attention.

There is no need for china or USA to keep attacking each other. Any country who wants to prove that is the strongest & fit to lead should set a good example by finding lasting solution to this pandermic!

No offence, but, i think it's stupid for some folks who keep talking about power in such a crucial moment where everybody is living in fear of not knowing what might happen tomorrow.

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May 28, 2020, 07:04:55 PM
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"Because China is so rich that they can buy the entire Africa...."

Buy the entire Africa? how? and with worth?

Just a few question(s)
why is it that any country who desire to become a super-power will jump from own country into investment in Africa?
Are there no poor people in china or project that need to be funded in China?

I bet China is trying to follow the blueprint of most eu countries & America.

Note : A colleague of mine said to me the other day that the production of the CHINA VIRUS is a proof to American's & Eu that china has the potential to produce unique product!



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May 28, 2020, 07:22:54 PM
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US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. Because China is so rich that they can buy the entire Africa, they can buy the entire existing technology, they can invest into best new talents, they can invest into 5G, 6G, 7G, they can build the best spaceship with all the income they received from tax money.


Well china has so many issue to face,and maybe that same way why Trump is attacking Them but of course in this situation attacking others is not really needs to be in place because there are so many dying people and sick that needs attention than this one.

for me?let start this kind of conversation once the pandemic ends and not now that we have need helping others first.



@peter0425,

"Them but of course in this situation attacking others is not really needs to be in place because there are so many dying people and sick that needs attention than this one...."   

Atleast, this is one comment that got my attention.

There is no need for china or USA to keep attacking each other. Any country who wants to prove that is the strongest & fit to lead should set a good example by finding lasting solution to this pandermic!

No offence, but, i think it's stupid for some folks who keep talking about power in such a crucial moment where everybody is living in fear of not knowing what might happen tomorrow.

Thanks
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i don't think China is trying to replace US being the strong and fit to lead in fact they were trying to protect themselves. there is nothing in the history of china that wants to control anyone except their own people. china has power but never have they been trying to attack unless threatened.  in South China Sea, they have been protecting that sea for they are vulnerable in that part.

and yes truth this is not time to attack each other. unless we really want to wipe out part of the world. China is capable of doing that as well.







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Buy the entire Africa? how?
The method is through colonialization 5.0 with the narrative of the one belt one road (OBOR) program. Almost 23 countries have joined BRI (Belt Road Initiative).

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and with worth?
By printing as many renminbi as long as there are productive multi-layered projects that do not use dollars but can bring foreign exchange to China.

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why is it that any country who desire to become a super-power will jump from own country into investment in Africa?
Are there no poor people in china or project that need to be funded in China?

To prepare for resilience like the Chinese. China is a country with a super jumbo population, a lot of mouths that need to be fed. Relying on domestic projects alone will not be enough to feed the Chinese people in the future. With OBOR's investment in Africa, China is opening new jobs and making sure the domestic industry continues to spin. Why Africa, many African countries are in fact poor countries, this is an advantage for China to enter the American and European markets especially after China and many Asian countries were dropped from the list of developing countries by America.

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I bet China is trying to follow the blueprint of most eu countries & America.
Yes exactly with a few modifications. China mimics exactly what America did when it siphoned off China's national assets in the form of cheap skilled labor in the 90s but China's strategy is more sophisticated because it can bind a country in the long run. China will not repeat America's mistakes. China will develop the African manufacturing sector for the European export market given the geographical distance between Africa and Europe is closer. China will make a New supply chain by sending semi-finished goods from China and processed into finished goods in Africa and then exported to Europe. Chinese manufacturing is running, projects in Africa are also on the way and the dollar is entering China.

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May 29, 2020, 03:29:50 PM
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Because of China whole world is suffering as we all know. War between US and China will never end. The US companies which were in China will definitely shift to other countries may be to india also. US is very strong country but now because of China US as become helpless and poor.

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I am curious to know what is driving you or motivating you to start a thread like this in a Bitcoin forum? Bitcoin does not care if you are a Communist or a Capitalist, because it is just another currency. Nobody is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to use it, like almost all governments (including China) are doing with Fiat currencies.

I admire some of the Chinese for their work ethic and their loyalty to a government that are crushing their freedom in many ways. We only have to look at the things happening in Hong Kong, to see what I am talking about. Even a dog is loyal to his owner, because he feeds him... The Chinese would have ruled the world, if they had a government like the US.  Wink

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May 29, 2020, 05:30:29 PM
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China is liable for all this so I feel President Trump will still attack China I feel this is often a really good decision. the results for the entire world for them are that everybody lives in crisis. Not just President Trump but all poisoned presidents should take some action against China. Everything started in China Meanwhile, China has also did not come up with a vaccine and isn't supplying the required pests they're keeping everything secret and conspiring to place the planet in additional crisis.

Also that America is the watching eyes of the world should make Trump to speak out on the evil to the world since all other president are not doing that. The world is in crisis about the pandemic and needs solution to live back to normal. China is the focus for this problem as we read through media and people are dying from this infection by daily basis.

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May 30, 2020, 02:51:59 PM
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Because of China whole world is suffering as we all know. War between US and China will never end. The US companies which were in China will definitely shift to other countries may be to india also. US is very strong country but now because of China US as become helpless and poor.


lets not judge china too quick  . just because china start the spread does that mean that they mean it ? no i guess  . world is suffering isnt because of china but because some people are not careful enough to them self and to the people around them    . u.s isnt poor and not helpless but u.s is a rich and strong country .  there could be another reason or issue on the past that havent been resolved yet before the covid issue came but lets hope both country will make peace not war
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May 30, 2020, 07:19:32 PM
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Was this called sinoism or something? The act of saying "china is good" basically, I can't really explain it all that well, nationalism in china? Well, zionism was related to Jewish race but sinoism was same thing but for Chinese I think and not just china. All in all China has nothing to do with USA as much as you think.

China thinks they are so powerful that even USA owes them 1 trillion dollars and "can't pay it back" when in reality USA basically printed out 4.2 trillion dollars just in last 3 months so there is no way they can't pay. And yes USA is doing horrible but attacking china is not the result of that. Trump is a racist person and he is willing to attack anyone, China, Russia, Europe, Canada he attacks basically everyone, because his voters are idiots who love racism as well and that is how he gets votes.

that's not how it works. if US prints 4.2T last 3 months, it means that their debt is not worth $1Trillion anymore. remember that if you print more the more it loses value.
now what if China will also print more up to $4.2T worth of yuan? does it mean that the two will have to keep printing just to make sure their debt will be lessen?  china hasn't print anything yet. have they?

the only china did is focus more on digital yuan and i guess they are seeing this to happen in the future where the economic war will happen with digital currencies.

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May 30, 2020, 07:35:26 PM
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Wow. Has the official Chinese media decided to spread propaganda on bitcointalk? That is very good. Actually, I think we do want to hear what the Chinese have to say to the world in terms of their plans for the world. On the face of it, Chinese really do not appear to be very trustworthy. You only have to look at the how hypocritical they are:
1. Have been known for coordinating cyber attack to steal IP for US universities and companies.
2. Begin their imperialistic actions as soon as they think that the world is not looking or is too weak to question. Like in the sea boundaries with SE countries.
3. Has a policy of using state power as well as state-controlled manpower to take over emerging markets like Africa. This isn't talked about much but the stratification of Chinese society ensures that they have an unending supply of labor at every level of skill with a very special property. They know their place in the scheme of things and will never say a word about "work conditions", "minimum wages" etc. like those in other democratic countries.
4. Bag of lies in relation to the Coronavirus.

The Chinese are a very effective machine. Yet, they show no remorse in using the worst of the times to further their interests. They have no self-correction mechanism to weed out unethical activities sponsored by the Govt like bribing, human right abuses, forced incarceration etc. As long as these activities contribute to maintaining some form of business advantage, the Chinese govt will continue to do it. In a country like US or UK, their own citizens will raise questions if the government activities get too exploitative in foreign lands.

The Chinese are quite clearly a cold-blooded, ruthless, untrustworthy lot.
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May 31, 2020, 05:29:14 PM
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It's all about the national characteristics of the Chinese. They can work for days, can fall on the floor, and get back to work. They have to be smart in order to achieve something, and stand out from the crowd. It is sometimes scary, from the percentage of indigenous people and visiting Chinese.

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2. Begin their imperialistic actions as soon as they think that the world is not looking or is too weak to question. Like in the sea boundaries with SE countries.
China learned colonialism from Japan and the West. China used to be a Japanese colony. And in Xi's thought that China with a jumbo population must guarantee adequate food and employment for its people. Xi believes that China is not a country of China is a community so that the government supports the Chinese diaspora throughout the world. The South China Sea Region is indeed a territorial dispute region between many countries that mutually claim territories.

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3. Has a policy of using state power as well as state-controlled manpower to take over emerging markets like Africa. This isn't talked about much but the stratification of Chinese society ensures that they have an unending supply of labor at every level of skill with a very special property. They know their place in the scheme of things and will never say a word about "work conditions", "minimum wages" etc. like those in other democratic countries.
China does divide its business into two lines, namely domestic, which is controlled by the private sector and abroad which is controlled by state-owned enterprises. Once again colonialism 5.0 China in Africa with the OBOR project is imitating the American strategy in the 90s, of course with the modification of long-term infrastructure development so that it is not like America who forgot to bind China.

OBOR is a disaster for developing countries even though it is clad with a development narrative. In reality, there is no growth. OBOR is exploitation, infrastructure development requires raw materials from China, work from China ranging from experts to workers. Although the projects are in Africa, money doesn't all revolve in Africa, but it guarantees manufacturing in China and ensures the dollar goes to China even though China doesn't spend a lot of dollars.

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4. Bag of lies in relation to the Coronavirus.
For this one, America and China are both brutes, because humanity is not prioritized.

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June 01, 2020, 10:55:17 PM
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Economic competition between China and the US has been going on for a long time, even before the COVID19 outbreak occurred. This is what
makes the guess that COVID19 was created by a lab in the US or China, regardless of whether the allegations were true or false, there was
indeed a trade war between China and US. Now the US economy continues to weaken, even the price of stock in the US market is getting down.
In contrast to China, the economy more stable and looks very ready to face the pandemic COVID19. So in conclusion I agree with the article
in the opening post.

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June 11, 2020, 05:31:21 AM
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I think you made a really silly and racist comment by saying that China can buy the whole Africa. It’s really dumb thing to say, and I believe that you’re an adult. Why mention Africa out of the whole continents in the world? You even sound bitter, and I don’t understand why you’re making some excuses here that are not making sense to me.

How did you know that America is poor, are you the one in charge of their finance? Who are you please? How did you even get to know that China is rich enough to buy a whole continent? *Hiss**.

For the sake of your favorite country or your own country please do not insult other country or its people. Saying something like I could buy all of you is definitely sounding like pure slavery even if you do not actually mean it. Please make your statements not hurting anyone in any means.
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June 11, 2020, 03:07:30 PM
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All of country suffered the effect of pandemic so means US is not the only low income. The government here is also low in income but still trying to recover. I think someday president trump will rise the US again. Then why other said that other country can buy africa , africa is a one of the prestigious country and i sure that the people of africa is not to give up the place that give her/his a good life. Peace everyone can save us. Lets stand as one and soon the world will back again to normal.

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June 11, 2020, 05:16:01 PM
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I disagree with some of your views. Firstly, America is not poor. The US does not attack China because of poverty or to become richer. The United States attacked China because China is now developing rapidly, being the second power in the world. This threatens America's No. 1 position so far: The United States is the world's No. 1 powerhouse, able to manipulate and control the world with its own power (as you can see in the past, the United States has how spontaneous to attack Iraq, Iran, start wars ...). The war between the United States and China was a trade war, gaining the world hegemony, it was like the cold war between the United States and the Soviet Union in the early years of the 20th century and the United States was the winner.

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June 12, 2020, 03:46:10 AM
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Actually, in history the country of China is affluent of different kinds of equipment and oil from the latest research and besides it is also immersive to emulate, however because of the excessive intellect, perhaps lot of invented such as therapeutic but the awareness of mistake has unpredictable to happen. China is the primary responsible of pandemic impact according to many speculation,so I believe that trump administrative support for and have a deeply reasons to attack China even unfounded I think if the battle is uncontrolled through immigration and constantly evolving we are affected of their passion of war.

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